It's illegal now to swear in Australia

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:02 pm

Well it is illegal to use profanity against a police officer whilst being arrested and it's illegal to swear in public. Okay maybe just victoria......well I say........*%&$@****#%^$$@@!#$%^%%^$@@@*^&&&

please have a look at this, funniest thing I've seen on the advertising show "the Gruen Transfer". I think we've just told the world how to escape recsession.

Australians Against Vulgarity - YouTube

oops warning ....lots of swearing in this clip.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:04 pm

I wonder if the BBC has lisence to do something like that.?

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:47 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1367017 wrote: Well it is illegal to use profanity against a police officer whilst being arrested and it's illegal to swear in public. Okay maybe just victoria......well I say........*%&$@****#%^$$@@!#$%^%%^$@@@*^&&&

You keep coming up with startling assertions like this, it would be polite if you linked to some article giving more detail to help us read the background.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:51 pm

spot;1367033 wrote: You keep coming up with the startling assertions, it would be polite if you linked to some article giving more detail to help us read the background.

I thought it was already illegal in the UK - they did you for resisting arrest or obstructing the course of justice or something inane like that.

As for general swearing in public :-

Under section 5 of the Public Order Act an officer (on or off duty with the production of a warrant card) may arrest any person(s) that have failed to listen to three verbal cautions related to swearing...

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:54 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367034 wrote: Under section 5 of the Public Order Act an officer (on or off duty with the production of a warrant card) may arrest any person(s) that have failed to listen to three verbal cautions related to swearing...Odds bodikins surely this cannot be so, God blind me else.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:59 pm

spot;1367037 wrote: Odds bodikins surely this cannot be so, God blind me else.

Even if it wasn't they'd get you for something and find a way to make it stick :wah:

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:00 pm

yep it's a new one Spot ...it's so bizzarre that the ABC local radio in my area swore all day just to make a point of it. Even their guest solicitor Bill O'shea (used to be head of the bar association ) swore and said ...well come on arrest me!! hee hee hee

but that's not really the point of the thread did you watch the video? it's funny as.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:08 pm

Victorian police to be given powers to fine persons $240 for swearing in public. - SameSame Forums

Victoria’s Swear Laws: Setting the Record Straight - lexawkward

You dissapoint me Spot ..If I spoon feed you everything, how are you going to pass the time? Basically If I'm in public and I say ..."well **** me isn't that a lovely set of coconuts" I'm fine ...But if I say "You call those a lovely set of coconuts? Get ****ed" then I can incur a fine of $240 .

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:21 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1367081 wrote: Victorian police to be given powers to fine persons $240 for swearing in public. - SameSame Forums

Victoria’s Swear Laws: Setting the Record Straight - lexawkward

You dissapoint me Spot ..If I spoon feed you everything, how are you going to pass the time? Basically If I'm in public and I say ..."well **** me isn't that a lovely set of coconuts" I'm fine ...But if I say "You call those a lovely set of coconuts? Get ****ed" then I can incur a fine of $240 .

Personally I'd fine you for both - totally unneccessary to use such language :p

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:23 pm

Not according to this Judge.....

Magistrate Heilpern of the NSW Local Court embarks upon a wonderful exploration of word in Police v Butler [2003] NSWLC 2 starting from [22]:

The word **** is extremely common place now and has lost much of its punch. One cannot walk down the streets of any of the towns in which I sit, day or night, without hearing the word or its derivatives used as a noun, verb, adjective and, indeed, a term of affection. I have stood on Sydney suburban railway stations while private school uniformed kids (girls and boys) yell “**** off” to each other across platforms without anyone looking up from their newspaper in surprise. In court I am regularly confronted by witnesses who seem physically unable to speak without using the word in every sentence - it has become as common in their language as any other word and they use it without intent to offend, or without any knowledge that others would find it other than completely normal. I too have had the experience of having witnessed being cross-examined and responding to propositions by saying “**** off - it didn’t happen like that”. I have had witnesses who when asked their name answer “John ****ing Smith”.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:31 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1367086 wrote: Not according to this Judge.....

I hear it as I walk past, I cannot imagine why people use it. As the magistrate says, some people do not appear to realise that they are saying it much like those who ummm between each word or precede every sentence with "like". Sad

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:04 pm

it's funny you know ....when mum was a probation officer way back in the seventies she used to have a bloke that would come tot he house for his 'communication/reporting' he had such a loud voice you could hear him coming down the street effing effing effing this and that ...The minute he got to our gate he was as polite as a buttercup. Apparently he never swore in front of kids or a lady ...Bwhhahahahahhaaaaa.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:45 pm

Isn't swearing about the only way you folks communicate down-under?

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:46 pm

did you watch the youtube video? lol

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:48 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1367017 wrote: Well it is illegal to use profanity against a police officer whilst being arrested and it's illegal to swear in public. Okay maybe just victoria......well I say........*%&$@****#%^$$@@!#$%^%%^$@@@*^&&&Don't feel bad, over here they beat the hell out of you and then use you for target practice. If you survive all that they fine you.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:52 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367034 wrote: I thought it was already illegal in the UK - they did you for resisting arrest or obstructing the course of justice or something inane like that.

As for general swearing in public :-

Under section 5 of the Public Order Act an officer (on or off duty with the production of a warrant card) may arrest any person(s) that have failed to listen to three verbal cautions related to swearing...

Section 5 = Swearing (just shouting in the street)

Section 4a = Swearing at a police officer

Section 4 = Swearing and then threatening violence towards a person

However, Officers are now advised not to arrest youths for section 5 or section 4a

Its OK To Swear At Police | UK Police News - Police Oracle

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:00 pm

Ahso!;1367095 wrote: Don't feel bad, over here they beat the hell out of you and then use you for target practice. If you survive all that they fine you.

Oh ...so they warn you then? That's nice of them . lol lol lol

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:07 pm

The test ought to be whether the language heard would have been acceptable in parliamentary debate. Doesn't that let the Aussies off?

It's not spoon-feeding, fuzzy, it's adding value to the post. The thread will sit here for decades, people won't know the background, a clickable news link helps a lot. It's not just me that will click it. You post the link once, it'll be used dozens of times. That's so much better than dozens of people googling to find what you already knew.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:25 am

Spot I did put up a video ....the thread is about the funny video ...not whether it's illegal to swear . ...You didn't watch the video did you?

Great a funny video thread turned into a serious one ...eeewwwhhhh not what I was going for . but whatever .

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:35 am

fuzzywuzzy;1367156 wrote: You didn't watch the video did you?Not only did I not watch the video, I don't have flashplayer on my computer. There's a lot else I don't have on my computer too. I'm not prepared to install a piece of software which has such pervasive inbuilt tracking capabilities with so inadequate a set of user controls. Neither am I prepared to install a piece of software which has such a track record of security holes. Nor am I going to install a piece of software which is so beyond-reason inefficient in doing what it actually does.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:43 am

well then ..now you know where your delemma lies,and why you missed the gist of the thread .

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:40 am

spot;1367158 wrote: Not only did I not watch the video, I don't have flashplayer on my computer. There's a lot else I don't have on my computer too. I'm not prepared to install a piece of software which has such pervasive inbuilt tracking capabilities with so inadequate a set of user controls. Neither am I prepared to install a piece of software which has such a track record of security holes. Nor am I going to install a piece of software which is so beyond-reason inefficient in doing what it actually does.

No ********** S***!!

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:21 pm

YZGI;1367167 wrote: No ********** S***!!

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