Forum Garden Is Dying

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:29 am

oscar;1402452 wrote: Those who do pick up their dog poo and use bags are not helping the enviroment. The plastic bags can take over 10 years to bio-degrade In landfill sites.

Even proper biodegradable ones ?

What is ten years in the life of the planet, besides a child skidding on dogs kack while playing ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:39 am

Bruv;1402473 wrote: Even proper biodegradable ones ?

What is ten years in the life of the planet, besides a child skidding on dogs kack while playing ?

Depends where I am.... In a public place... of course I pick It up with bag and find the bin... but out In the countryside where there are no bins anyway, If It's by a hedgerow, I leave It.... can't see kids playing In some of the places I take my dogs for a yomp.... If I pick It up and bag It, there's no bin anyway which could be the answer the Bryn's question.

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:43 am

oscar;1402474 wrote: there's no bin anyway which could be the answer the Bryn's question.
If you haven't got a handbag, keep the damned dog at home.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:46 am

spot;1402475 wrote: If you haven't got a handbag, keep the damned dog at home.

Here we go......again......

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:51 am

spot;1402475 wrote: If you haven't got a handbag, keep the damned dog at home. After refusing to engage your malice In the Green room... you've now jumped on me here, the minute I've posted..

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:51 am

Bruv;1402476 wrote: Here we go......again...... No, It won't be here we go again Bruv.... he's on his own.

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:57 am

It's nothing to do with you, oscar, it's that I'm sick to the back teeth with bloody dog owners allowing their stinking hounds to crap on the Downs. I don't give a damn whether they then pick the **** up or not, it makes the entire place impossible to let preschool children play on. Birds and wildlife I can cope with, it's the volume of dogshit I'm talking about. I rarely walk there for five minutes without seeing well over twenty dogs being "walked" - a euphemism for toileted.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:04 am

spot;1402481 wrote: It's nothing to do with you, oscar, it's that I'm sick to the back teeth with bloody dog owners allowing their stinking hounds to crap on the Downs. I don't give a damn whether they then pick the **** up or not, it makes the entire place impossible to let preschool children play on. Birds and wildlife I can cope with, it's the volume of dogshit I'm talking about. I rarely walk there for five minutes without seeing well over twenty dogs being "walked" - a euphemism for toileted.

If I walked my dogs on the Downs, I would pick up their poo as I am aware the area Is used by the public. I do not walk my dogs on The Downs, never have and never will.

My dogs are not 'toileted'... they are exercised.

They are put In the car and driven to area's of the South Glou countryside that do not see the general public.

Take your anger out on the people who abuse the Downs... not someone who has never used them for dog walking and never would.

eta... the entire reason I have an Estate car... Dogs

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:05 am

Thats why ForumGarden is dying

Mountains of dogshit

Did you see what I just did there ?

No limit to my skills in linking subjects for comedic purposes

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:08 am

oscar;1402482 wrote: If I walked my dogs on the Downs, I would pick up their poo as I am aware the area Is used by the public.
That doesn't leave the grass in an hygienic state though, does it. Bagging is not even a step toward acceptability. Not crapping on the grass is a great solution.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:08 am

Snowfire;1402483 wrote: Thats why ForumGarden is dying

Mountains of dogshit

Did you see what I just did there ?

No limit to my skills in linking subjects for comedic purposes
I've just bust a rib.... whoops there goes another one.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:13 am

spot;1402484 wrote: That doesn't leave the grass in an hygienic state though, does it. Bagging is not even a step toward acceptability. Not crapping on the grass is a great solution.

Did not actually bother reading my post before you leapt on It?

I said.., 'If It's near a hedgerow'... not on grass... not In the middle of a field.... near a hedgerow In the middle of countryside where you'd be hard pressed to find one member of the public...

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:19 am

The underlying problem is that you finance the existence of more domesticated animals than would exist if you behaved ethically. Where they spread their diseases is a secondary issue. If they're not infecting children on the Downs they're infecting wildlife in your oh-so-convenient hedgerow toilet.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:22 am

On a more serious note I can understand Spots objection. I know he's not particularly a dog lover from what I remember but all the same he's right. Control of ones dogs "goings on " is as important as any other dog control issues. The level of filth in public places as a result of bad ownership is a disgrace. I'd like to see a hefty fine for those caught allowing their dog to run free and fouling parks or pavements. You're not fit to own a dog if you allow it to "give birth to a 7lb weasel" willy nilly

And dont get me started on the stuff that comes out of the wrong end of a fox. I have to deal with that stuff on a daily basis where I am working at the moment.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:25 am

spot;1402490 wrote: The underlying problem is that you finance the existence of more domesticated animals than would exist if you behaved ethically. Where they spread their diseases is a secondary issue. If they're not infecting children on the Downs they're infecting wildlife in your oh-so-convenient hedgerow toilet.

If you say so old man... If you say so. Yawn

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:26 am

Nice to see you leaving the Americans alone.........

I am trying to imagine 'hygienic' grass........................

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:26 am

Snowfire;1402492 wrote: On a more serious note I can understand Spots objection. I know he's not particularly a dog lover from what I remember but all the same he's right. Control of ones dogs "goings on " is as important as any other dog control issues. The level of filth in public places as a result of bad ownership is a disgrace. I'd like to see a hefty fine for those caught allowing their dog to run free and fouling parks or pavements. You're not fit to own a dog if you allow it to "give birth to a 7lb weasel" willy nilly

And dont get me started on the stuff that comes out of the wrong end of a fox. I have to deal with that stuff on a daily basis where I am working at the moment.

Depends on the owners... Most are reasonably responsible and will clear up.... my own area considering the amount of dogs walked In the field outside my house Is surprisingly clean.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:30 am

Bruv;1402495 wrote: Nice to see you leaving the Americans alone.........

I am trying to imagine 'hygienic' grass........................

The Downs In Bristol that Spot wants kept clean Is mentioned here:

Doggers And Dogging In Gloucestershire

Bristol

Clifton Downs near the centre of Bristol is a good (late night only) dogging location. Ladies mile is the main road for it and "sea walls" is popular with gays cruising. Follow signs for Bristol Zoo. "The Downs" is the large park/common adjacent to it.

Actually, It appears to be very well mentioned on the Internet....

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:38 am

oscar;1402498 wrote: The Downs In Bristol that Spot wants kept clean Is mentioned here:

Doggers And Dogging In Gloucestershire

Bristol

Clifton Downs near the centre of Bristol is a good (late night only) dogging location. Ladies mile is the main road for it and "sea walls" is popular with gays cruising. Follow signs for Bristol Zoo. "The Downs" is the large park/common adjacent to it.

Actually, It appears to be very well mentioned on the Internet....

Guest count for this thread just went through the roof when FG got to page 1 of Google when searching for carpark related pastimes.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:41 am

Snowfire;1402503 wrote: Guest count for this thread just went through the roof when FG got to page 1 of Google when searching for carpark related pastimes.

You see there we have It... It horses for courses.... I have absolutely no objection to consenting adults having sex In the great outdoors even on area's where children play during the day time so I don't expect anyone to object to my dog having a crap along a hedgerow In deep countryside that Is not used by the public....

Funny old world eh?

Post by **Betty Boop** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:45 am

oscar;1402504 wrote: You see there we have It... It horses for courses.... I have absolutely no objection to consenting adults having sex In the great outdoors even on area's where children play during the day time so I don't expect anyone to object to my dog having a crap along a hedgerow In deep countryside that Is not used by the public....

Funny old world eh?

Last time I checked sex or masturbation doesn't send anyone blind, contrary to what your mother told you.

Meanwhile dog **** can cause blindness.

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:47 am

oscar;1402504 wrote: I have absolutely no objection to consenting adults having sex In the great outdoors even on area's where children play during the day time
On a point of information, the Council keeps a section of the Downs unmown so as to provide outdoor fornicators with a couple of feet of privacy once they're prone. The long grass stays child-free at all times, the two groups never overlap.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:47 am

Betty Boop;1402506 wrote: Last time I checked sex or masturbation doesn't send anyone blind, contrary to what your mother told you.

Meanwhile dog **** can cause blindness. Very true BB however, I'd rather stumble on some dog poo than a used condom.

Perhaps we could have a poll.

Condom or poo?

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:50 am

oscar;1402509 wrote: Very true BB however, I'd rather stumble on some dog poo than a used condom.

Perhaps we could have a poll.

Condom or poo?

Er ! Neither is a choice

Post by **Betty Boop** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:50 am

oscar;1402509 wrote: Very true BB however, I'd rather stumble on some dog poo than a used condom.

Perhaps we could have a poll.

Condom or poo?

Condom.

Wasted far too much time in my life already scraping poo off my own shoes, the kids shoes, the buggy wheels, it's everywhere!

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:54 am

oscar;1402509 wrote: Condom or poo?If you haven't got a handbag, don't take customers into alleyways.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:54 am

Betty Boop;1402511 wrote: Condom.

Wasted far too much time in my life already scraping poo off my own shoes, the kids shoes, the buggy wheels, it's everywhere!

Toxocariasis can cause blindness In children true. But It's actually rare due to the parasite not lasting long once It's been excreted. Again, It's down to responsible dog owners. It won't happen with dogs who are regually wormed...

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:57 am

spot;1402512 wrote: If you haven't got a handbag, don't take customers into alleyways. I don't carry a handbag on my yomps with my dogs Spot... In fact, I don't like handbags full stop... that's what God Invented pockets for...

As an aside... when I was arrested, I had no handbag and the Desk Seargent had to list the contents of my pockets which Included ' several dog toilet bags'.... It's on my rap sheet.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:00 am

oscar;1402514 wrote: when I was arrested

What, for dogging ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:03 am

Snowfire;1402515 wrote: What, for dogging ? No... Cottaging.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:07 am

oscar;1402516 wrote: No... Cottaging.

There's a whole industry built around that

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:09 am

Snowfire;1402519 wrote: There's a whole industry built around that It's certainly helped In sales of the glory hole over the years.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:28 am

Betty Boop;1402506 wrote: Last time I checked sex or masturbation doesn't send anyone blind, contrary to what your mother told you.
So you challenge the convention often, do ya? :sneaky:

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:29 am

We had three dogs when I was a child that I was tasked to clean up after and I've stepped bare footed in dog crap more times than I care to count. I'm 54 and still relatively healthy.

I'd rather have dog poop in the parks than human body fluids spooged on a lawn later to be stepped in by children. Maybe I'm close minded.

Post by **spot** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:37 am

SnoozeAgain;1402592 wrote: I'd rather have dog poop in the parks than human body fluids spooged on a lawn later to be stepped in by children. Maybe I'm close minded.Considering where those particular human body fluids are intended by nature to end up, they're a lot safer than the dog poop. Or are you one of those to whom the medically unsound excuse "I caught it off a toilet seat" remains plausible.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:53 am

spot;1402595 wrote: Considering where those particular human body fluids are intended by nature to end up, they're a lot safer than the dog poop. Or are you one of those to whom the medically unsound excuse "I caught it off a toilet seat" remains plausible.

Really? I doubt "nature" foresaw the variety of sexually transmitted diseases that have mutated over several generations just in the last century. Name some amazing dog diseases that have killed humans lately?

Post by **spot** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:59 am

SnoozeAgain;1402599 wrote: Really? I doubt "nature" foresaw the variety of sexually transmitted diseases that have mutated over several generations just in the last century.I'd guess that STIs have existed back along your family tree for at least 200 million years, snooze, and that their variety has been just as wide for most of that time as it is now.

HIV infection from syringe needlestick or other blood transmission, yes. From vaginal or anal intercourse, yes. From oral sex, allegedly in one case in twenty years though I don't know anyone who believes it was correctly reported. From the external application of semen to scratched or to undamaged skin, absolutely zero. By all means show me a report of such an event.

Or did you have a different STI in mind?

Regarding dog crap, "killed" and "unsafe" are different words.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:06 am

oscar;1402474 wrote: Depends where I am.... In a public place... of course I pick It up with bag and find the bin... but out In the countryside where there are no bins anyway, If It's by a hedgerow, I leave It.... can't see kids playing In some of the places I take my dogs for a yomp.... If I pick It up and bag It, there's no bin anyway which could be the answer the Bryn's question.

No, in remote areas then, as long as it's not in the middle of the path, leave it. I was talking about local public places and those who are too lazy to carry a poo bag a couple of hundred yards until the next bin.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:07 am

So let me see if I understand this correctly. You're advocating gay sex, unprotected or otherwise, over dog elimination in public parks because you apparently think grass should be sterile for children playing upon it?

You know birds **** on grass as well, right? Lets list the diseases they spread.

Jesus Christ, what a stupid GD argument.

Post by **spot** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:22 am

You are, I fear, a biased commentator.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:24 am

...I think I'm just going to marvel at how we've got from forumgarden dying to dog poo. And then leave.

Post by **spot** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:27 am

SnoozeAgain;1402604 wrote: You're advocating gay sexI don't think you're quite got the underlying concept of dogging in the slightest. Neither I nor anyone else here has mentioned gay sex.

Neither did I say sterile, I said "an hygienic state".

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:34 am

Au contraire, mon ami... you seem to think grass should be sterile for children to play upon. It's anything but.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:36 am

spot;1402609 wrote: I don't think you're quite got the underlying concept of dogging in the slightest. Neither I nor anyone else here has mentioned gay sex.

Neither did I say sterile, I said "an hygienic state".

"An hygienic state"... explain.

Post by **spot** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:40 am

SnoozeAgain;1402612 wrote: "An hygienic state"... explain.

Grass that hasn't been shat on. The sort of grass I'd be happy to let preschool children play on, which has seen neither dogs nor fornicators. I refer you back to my Long Grass No Children comment as far as their wiping their little heels in semen goes. That doesn't happen. Neither should they be exposed to grass on which the products of defecation have lain.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:51 am

Clodhopper;1402608 wrote: ...I think I'm just going to marvel at how we've got from forumgarden dying to dog poo. And then leave.

It's going to end up like the butter thread.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:54 am

And as I've said earlier, I've trod barefoot upon grass that had been shat upon by dogs, cat and birds, among other wild and domesticated animals. It's a fact of life.

I bet you use hand sanitizer too, don't you?

Post by **spot** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:07 am

SnoozeAgain;1402615 wrote: I bet you use hand sanitizer too, don't you?

Four times yesterday, from memory, but I was out of the house. Here I make do with coal tar soap though I can't tell you how many times I've used that since I got up this morning. Over ten, definitely.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:18 am

spot;1402618 wrote: Four times yesterday, from memory, but I was out of the house. Here I make do with coal tar soap though I can't tell you how many times I've used that since I got up this morning. Over ten, definitely.

Ah, we've found his achilles heal. GERMS!!!

Post by **spot** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:43 am

YZGI;1402620 wrote: Ah, we've found his achilles heal. GERMS!!!

Heel.