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xfrodobagginsx;1058898 wrote: ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. If you will confess to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, accept Him as Lord and Savior and believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead you will be saved.

Joh 1:12 Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?



ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?

4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please humble yourself before God and pray this prayer to Him from your heart:

"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I repent and place my faith completely in You as my Lord and Savior of my life. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you prayed that prayer to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.


I just want to encourage anyone who hasn't yet to read this first post and vote in the poll.
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xfrodobagginsx;1520193 wrote: I just want to encourage anyone who hasn't yet to read this first post and vote in the poll.


Your idiotic political games have destroyed any credibility you have as a missionary.

You should go back to handing out tracts at the bus station.
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Just heard on the news that Trump wants the AG to shut down the Mueller inquiry. Must be getting to close for comfort. Not hard to see through his game.
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Ted;1520200 wrote: Just heard on the news that Trump wants the AG to shut down the Mueller inquiry. Must be getting to close for comfort. Not hard to see through his game.


Or maybe this is a witch hunt after all since they haven't come up with any evidence in 2 years of investigating, they are just looking for ways to hurt Trump Politically. If I were Trump I would investigate all of those guys AND Hillary and Obama and see where the REAL collusion has been. It's already obvious it came from the Democrats. FACT: Hillary paid the Russians $10 Million to dig up dirt on Trump. FACT: Hillary sold 20% of US Uranium to the Russians in a secret deal that Obama also knew about. FACT: Hillary recieved $150 Million from the Russians in donations to the Clinton Foundation during the election right after selling them 20% of US uranium. FACT: Bill Clinton recieved $500,000 for a speech in Moscow from the Russians right after the uranium deal. What exactly is uranium used for again? Oh yeah to build nuclear bombs!! I think we already know where the real collusion came from. Hillary Clinton smashed her computer hard drives with hammers, bleached other hard drives after a subpoena was given for them. That's obstruction of justice and should be prison time. She deleted 30,000 emails from her unprotected server after they were subpoenaed by the court. That's obstruction of justice. She should be in jail. So, who's hiding what? You're joking right?
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LarsMac;1520194 wrote: Your idiotic political games have destroyed any credibility you have as a missionary.

You should go back to handing out tracts at the bus station.


I'm not the one who is trying to discuss politics here you and Ted are. I've just been going along with it. I haven't lost any credibility as the result of telling the truth. I would love to hand out tracts as the bus station. But you are right, we shouldn't use this thread for politics anymore. Unfortunately, all of my threads get moved when I create them.
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xfrodobagginsx;1520210 wrote: I'm not the one who is trying to discuss politics here you and Ted are. I've just been going along with it. I haven't lost any credibility as the result of telling the truth. I would love to hand out tracts as the bus station. But you are right, we shouldn't use this thread for politics anymore. Unfortunately, all of my threads get moved when I create them.


Sorry, Bob, but I can show you exactly where you introduced Politics into the thread, and where you turned it into the Trump Appreciation thread.

And, no, all of your political threads were not deleted. They were basically the same subject matter, and were consolidated into a common thread.

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xfrod you are presenting the greatest load of BS. I would think if Trump were so innocent he would welcome the investigation as it would exonerate him. What is he afraid of, the truth. More guns more bullets=more violent and more deaths. Ah the great

American dream!!!!! In my view Trump has no idea of how to treat even his friends. He is just a bully.
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Judges do what they were hired to do, apply the law. The ignorance of some Americans boggles the mind.
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Ted;1520222 wrote: xfrod you are presenting the greatest load of BS. I would think if Trump were so innocent he would welcome the investigation as it would exonerate him. What is he afraid of, the truth. More guns more bullets=more violent and more deaths. Ah the great

American dream!!!!! In my view Trump has no idea of how to treat even his friends. He is just a bully.


First of all, everything that I said is factually true and you can't refute it. I challenge you to. Secondly, Trump has allowed this phony investigation for 2 years and they have found nothing. All they are doing is going after people who know Trump and looking for any possible crime to charge them with and black mailing them, telling them if they don't give them dirt on Trump that they will spend time in prison. Trump has been exonerated by the lack of evidence, it's quite clear. He's not afraid of the Truth, he tired of the political games that they are playing, using this phony investigation to try and embarrass him politically. They can't charge him with a crime. I can't wait til this investigation is over, Trump fires Jeff Sessions, Mueller and the rest of them and then turns the tables on them. It's coming. The real criminals will be exposed.
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Ted;1520224 wrote: Judges do what they were hired to do, apply the law. The ignorance of some Americans boggles the mind.


Conservative Judges apply the law, Liberal Judges decided cases according to what they think the law should be rather than the actual law. That's the way it is here in America Jack.
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Church is a part of my life, weekly. and often other times. xfrod I bring to your attention the parable of the good Samaritan. The Jews and the Samaritans hated each other. So the situation was impossible but it worked. The good Samaritan helped the Jew. The questions comes up "who is my neighbor and Jesus pointed out the answer. Your neighbour is anyone who needs your help. This was not a local sentiment it was a universalizer sentiment. By treating those in need in the way Trump is behaving he is not following in "His" footsteps. And you in supporting that approach is following in "His" footsteps. There is nothing more to be said. Who have you visited in prison or whom have you clothed because they were naked. (Matt. 25) Have you actually walked humbly with your God. (Micah 6:8) I feel sorry for you as much as I feel sorry for all misguided and brain washed Americans. And yet I know some who think Trump is such a jerk in my opinion.
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Ted;1520242 wrote: Church is a part of my life, weekly. and often other times. xfrod I bring to your attention the parable of the good Samaritan. The Jews and the Samaritans hated each other. So the situation was impossible but it worked. The good Samaritan helped the Jew. The questions comes up "who is my neighbor and Jesus pointed out the answer. Your neighbour is anyone who needs your help. This was not a local sentiment it was a universalizer sentiment. By treating those in need in the way Trump is behaving he is not following in "His" footsteps. And you in supporting that approach is following in "His" footsteps. There is nothing more to be said. Who have you visited in prison or whom have you clothed because they were naked. (Matt. 25) Have you actually walked humbly with your God. (Micah 6:8) I feel sorry for you as much as I feel sorry for all misguided and brain washed Americans. And yet I know some who think Trump is such a jerk in my opinion.


It's not about making Church a part of your life. It's about making Jesus Christ the Center of your life. You believe the story of the Good Samaritan, but do you believe the rest of the Bible? Christians, Conservatives and Liberals supposedly believe in helping those in need. The issue at hand is that they disagree on the best way to help those in need. Trump is helping those in need more than any President in our lifetime by helping them get a job and helping the US economy. Black unemployment is at it's lowest in HISTORY since about a year after Trump took over. Latino unemployment is at it's lowest in HISTORY since about a year after Trump took over. Female unemployment is the lowest in history. 3.9% overall unemployment is amazingly low. 4.1% GDP growth this year is twice as high as Obama's best year using Socialism. Trump lowered taxes which helps the poor keep more of their hard earned money and helps the economy. We have a record high stock market since Trump. He is still giving out food stamps and housing assistance to help the poor. I know many ministers who visit those in prison and many churches who feed the poor, but Conservatives also believe in helping them get a job and get out of poverty rather than keeping them down and dependent on the Government. Trump wasn't elected to be 'nice' he was elected to get things done and actually help the US and that's what he is doing through his policies. Obama on the other hand was a liar, hurt the economy using socialism that doesn't work, but he was nice about it so you like him, and Trump is demonstrating that Capitalism actually works and is FAR superior to Socialism, but is brash sometimes so you don't like him. How can you argue with a record high economy? I scratch my head. God bless Trump.
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xfrodobagginsx;1520245 wrote: It's not about making Church a part of your life. It's about making Jesus Christ the Center of your life. You believe the story of the Good Samaritan, but do you believe the rest of the Bible? Christians, Conservatives and Liberals supposedly believe in helping those in need. The issue at hand is that they disagree on the best way to help those in need. Trump is helping those in need more than any President in our lifetime by helping them get a job and helping the US economy. Black unemployment is at it's lowest in HISTORY since about a year after Trump took over. Latino unemployment is at it's lowest in HISTORY since about a year after Trump took over. Female unemployment is the lowest in history. 3.9% overall unemployment is amazingly low. 4.1% GDP growth this year is twice as high as Obama's best year using Socialism. Trump lowered taxes which helps the poor keep more of their hard earned money and helps the economy. We have a record high stock market since Trump. He is still giving out food stamps and housing assistance to help the poor. I know many ministers who visit those in prison and many churches who feed the poor, but Conservatives also believe in helping them get a job and get out of poverty rather than keeping them down and dependent on the Government. Trump wasn't elected to be 'nice' he was elected to get things done and actually help the US and that's what he is doing through his policies. Obama on the other hand was a liar, hurt the economy using socialism that doesn't work, but he was nice about it so you like him, and Trump is demonstrating that Capitalism actually works and is FAR superior to Socialism, but is brash sometimes so you don't like him. How can you argue with a record high economy? I scratch my head. God bless Trump.


Nobody who can support Trump and his cronies in all of the destruction he is causing has a right to claim that Christ is a part of their lives.
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LarsMac I totally agree with you. What I see happening is in no way representative of the Christianity that I understand. In fact it is far from Christian. Stillk a lot of homelessness and abject poverty. Pathetic.If that were Christianity I could easily become an agnostic or even and atheist. I was raised in a fundamentalist church and I found it "EVIL". Fundamentalism is a relatively new thing in Christianity. It has arisen over the last 200 years. When I think about those immigrants being ill treated I also remember that Jesus never turned anyone away. Tell me that this is a Christian country in the US makes me sick. Christianity is not about right belief but about a way of life as demonstrated by Jesus of Nazareth.
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LarsMac;1520246 wrote: Nobody who can support Trump and his cronies in all of the destruction he is causing has a right to claim that Christ is a part of their lives.


Go to show how little you understand. Trump's policies are exactly in line with Christian morality and principals. I am not talking about his tweets or his past behavior, I am talking about his p o l i c i e s .
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Ted;1520250 wrote: LarsMac I totally agree with you. What I see happening is in no way representative of the Christianity that I understand. In fact it is far from Christian. Stillk a lot of homelessness and abject poverty. Pathetic.If that were Christianity I could easily become an agnostic or even and atheist. I was raised in a fundamentalist church and I found it "EVIL". Fundamentalism is a relatively new thing in Christianity. It has arisen over the last 200 years. When I think about those immigrants being ill treated I also remember that Jesus never turned anyone away. Tell me that this is a Christian country in the US makes me sick. Christianity is not about right belief but about a way of life as demonstrated by Jesus of Nazareth.


If poverty is your primary concern than you should love Trump because hus policies are pulling more black people, latinos and women out of poverty than any other President. Than I take it that you didn't like Obama because his policies cause a huge spike in food stamp and welfare rolls which keeps people in poverty. Not sure why you would be upset when you are

getting what you want.
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I notice you used the term "Witch Hunt", in reference to investigations to Trump's corruption. Interesting choice of words. Just where did that term originate? I seem to remember it was from yet another example of sadistic persecution of innocents in the name of Christian Dogma.

Trump has ordered the seperation & caging of children. 1 year old are brought to face a Judge, when the Judge said that he was embarassed that he had to ask the Defendant if he understood why he was there. Now the Courts have ordered him to cease drugging the said children. I seem to recall there is a phrase somewhere in the Bible that goes something like "Suffer the little children to come unto me". Trump's interpretation of this appears to be "Make the little children suffer".

He condemns all Muslims as being evil, yet cosies up to the Saudis, who have the worst Human Rights record in the World. He supports the atrocities of Israel.

Everything that is said against him he feigns off as being "Fake News". He even tried to claim that the fact that he kept the Queen waiting was "Fake News", and that, in fact, she kept him waiting when it was being broadcast live on world news. He tried to say that he never walked in front of the Queen, when once again this was broadcast live, world wide of his deliberately blocking her.

Trump has a verifiable record a mile long of corruption. He contracts migrant workers below the minimum wage, then once the work is done refuses to pay them and when they complain he threatens to sue them. The Plaintiffs, of course know that although they will most certainly win their cases they could not afford all the legal fees. It's not a case that he can't afford it, it a matter of he wants power over others.

Then there is his appalling record of his womanising. Having an affair whilst his son was being born - a very Christian attitude.

He is a supporter of the Pro-Gun lobby - a very Christian movement, I must say - making killing the most efficient way possible.

Also, getting back to the matter of the Good Samaritan - you do realise, of course that Samaria was Muslim, and the parable was demonstrating that Muslims are good people as well - which is the total opposite of what Trump teaches.

His record of evil is unbelieveable. If I were Religious at all, I would say that, if anything, Trump was the Anti-Christ & that any Christian who supports him is the ultimate hypocrite.
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FourPart;1520271 wrote: I notice you used the term "Witch Hunt", in reference to investigations to Trump's corruption. Interesting choice of words. Just where did that term originate? I seem to remember it was from yet another example of sadistic persecution of innocents in the name of Christian Dogma.

Trump has ordered the seperation & caging of children. 1 year old are brought to face a Judge, when the Judge said that he was embarassed that he had to ask the Defendant if he understood why he was there. Now the Courts have ordered him to cease drugging the said children. I seem to recall there is a phrase somewhere in the Bible that goes something like "Suffer the little children to come unto me". Trump's interpretation of this appears to be "Make the little children suffer".

He condemns all Muslims as being evil, yet cosies up to the Saudis, who have the worst Human Rights record in the World. He supports the atrocities of Israel.

Everything that is said against him he feigns off as being "Fake News". He even tried to claim that the fact that he kept the Queen waiting was "Fake News", and that, in fact, she kept him waiting when it was being broadcast live on world news. He tried to say that he never walked in front of the Queen, when once again this was broadcast live, world wide of his deliberately blocking her.

Trump has a verifiable record a mile long of corruption. He contracts migrant workers below the minimum wage, then once the work is done refuses to pay them and when they complain he threatens to sue them. The Plaintiffs, of course know that although they will most certainly win their cases they could not afford all the legal fees. It's not a case that he can't afford it, it a matter of he wants power over others.

Then there is his appalling record of his womanising. Having an affair whilst his son was being born - a very Christian attitude.

He is a supporter of the Pro-Gun lobby - a very Christian movement, I must say - making killing the most efficient way possible.

Also, getting back to the matter of the Good Samaritan - you do realise, of course that Samaria was Muslim, and the parable was demonstrating that Muslims are good people as well - which is the total opposite of what Trump teaches.

His record of evil is unbelieveable. If I were Religious at all, I would say that, if anything, Trump was the Anti-Christ & that any Christian who supports him is the ultimate hypocrite.


1) Obama started the policy, NOT Trump. Does that bother you? Secondly, they weren't put in cages, they were placed with relatives while the criminal parent sits in jail like any other criminal and it's only for about 24 hours on average until the parents court hearing is over.

2) Trump didn't say that muslims were evil. He called Terrorists evil and they are. If you don't think they are then YOU have a big problem.

3) No one said Trump didn't run around with women when he was younger and a Democrat. He wasn't a Christian at that time. He is only recently converted within the last 2 years. Interestingly, the Democrats celebrated him and loved him during this time, knowing full well what he was like. It wasn't until he became a Republican that they suddenly cared.

4) Israel isn't the bad guy. They are a great nation and are surrounded by a bunch of terrorists who want to destroy them. That land belongs to the Jews only. It was given to them by God Himself and has been theirs for thousands of years.

5) Pro Gun lobby is a very Christian movement. You are right. It's biblical to defend yourself and use weapons to do so. Jesus ordered His disciples to sell their cloak and buy a sword for protection. A gun is a modern day sword. In America, the highest crime area's are the ones with the strictest gun laws and the lowest crime areas are the ones with lax gun laws because the criminals know if the good guys don't have guns, then they are free to rob, rape, kill and no one can stop them.

6) No one said that there weren't good muslims. There are also good Christians and good Jews. You know that right? Trump never said all muslims were evil. That is a lie. He was talking about Terrorists. Get your facts straight.

7) Trump's policies have been wonderful for America. We have the best economy now in decades and maybe in history. Lowest Black Unemployment in History-That helps Black people...Lowest Latino Unemployment in History-That helps Latinos, Lowest Female Unemployment in History-That helps females, Lowest Disabled Unemployment-That helps the disabled....They don't have enough workers to fill positions. Tax cuts for the Cooperations have led to massive rising wages and hiring. Tax cuts for the poor and middle class is helping the poor and allowing people to keep more of their hard earned money. People are coming out of poverty. You want to help the poor right? Wages are going up, GDP is 2x as high as any year under Obama's Socialsim because Capitalism works and Socialism does not. Trump is proving that very well. Democrats are angry and say they want to REVERSE the tax cuts!! WHY Because they are actually helping people prosper? Best economy in history thanks to Trump's Capitalism. Trump is pro life, which is a very Christian view, Trump's social policies are right in line with Christian values. We are looking at what he did 15-30 years ago when he was a Democrat and the Democrats loved him knowing he did those things and suddenly are offended by them once he becomes a Conservative. I am looking at his policies and they are spot on.
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LarsMac;1520280 wrote: Why Corruption Matters

Why Corruption Matters


So what you are saying is that Obama and Clinton's corruption actually matters? Because I don't read anything from you to indicate that you were upset by their collusion with the Russians and other corruption. Why aren't you bothered by that?
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xfrod you are either willfully blind or brainwashed Just saw, for the second time, the tv program "The American Dream" I saw the other side of the story. 2 million homeless children, workers so underpaid that they cannot afford even a room and they cannot even afford decent healthy meals. We face the same problem that Jesus fought against: The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. There are other issues as well. This is not Christian at all. It is the greed of the ceos etc. Lower taxes! Your country has a debt of about 20 trillion dollars. Now your debt will get much higher. Trickle down economics has been shown throughout history to be a false concept. Typical of those who are greedy. Fundamentalism is an invention of the past few hundred years and it in no way reflects the church set up by the apostles. Jesus of Nazareth would be appalled at what has been done in his name. Perhaps you should look at the other side of the story. Your facts on the placement of the children false. A Christian country!!!!! I don't think so. unbridled capitalism does not promote justice. It is morally wrong. Unbridled capitalism shows the depravity of greed.
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Sick people in Canada are not turned away from the hospital because they don't have the money. We do follow the parable of the Good Samaritan. Read Matt. 25 with an open mind. The only wonder is that Americans haven't conducted a revolution and I believe that is coming.
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xfrodobagginsx;1520282 wrote: So what you are saying is that Obama and Clinton's corruption actually matters? Because I don't read anything from you to indicate that you were upset by their collusion with the Russians and other corruption. Why aren't you bothered by that?


Right. Defend Trump by attacking the others. Brilliant strategy.
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xfrodobagginsx;1520282 wrote: So what you are saying is that Obama and Clinton's corruption actually matters? Because I don't read anything from you to indicate that you were upset by their collusion with the Russians and other corruption. Why aren't you bothered by that?


You obviously failed to read, or understand, the article.

One point:

Corruption matters in a democracy because democracy is an idea that is completely dependent upon people who believe in that idea … in the rule of law, the common good, and one’s responsibility to society. Corrupt officials subvert democracy by selling influence. They undermine democracy by using their office to enrich themselves. Corrupt citizens abuse their freedoms in order to buy and sell politicians and then have the gall to claim this as the greatness of America. Influence peddling has now been legalized thanks to Citizen’s United. This form of corruption means that politicians are no longer doing what’s best for the country, and certainly not what’s best for the most vulnerable among us. Politicians are doing what’s best for their corporate benefactors, and whatever will keep them in power.

This is true regardless of the political lineage of the given politician.
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Maybe xfrod has a reading problem.
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These issues are nothing more than the curse and evil of unbridled capitalism. We are not talking about how great capitalism is but about the problems of unbridled capitalism. The is not about socialism or any thing like it. But hey in the Bood of Acts we see the compromise when Christians held all things in common. Some will say it did not work but it is in the "Perfect Word of God"??????????
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Ted;1520294 wrote: These issues are nothing more than the curse and evil of unbridled capitalism. We are not talking about how great capitalism is but about the problems of unbridled capitalism. The is not about socialism or any thing like it. But hey in the Bood of Acts we see the compromise when Christians held all things in common. Some will say it did not work but it is in the "Perfect Word of God"??????????


I see that it's true then. No one here is bothered by the corruption of Clinton and Obama, but they are bothered by something that Trump did that Obama did also.



The curse of unbridled capitalism....economic prosperity as is happening right now in America thanks to Trump.

Ah...the book of Acts. Let's look at that shall we? The believers were expecting Christ to return and set up His eternal Kingdom any moment and, although they were not commanded to do so by God, they voluntarily put sold all of their goods and gave the money for all to live on. The difference there is that ALL giving was v o l u n t a r y, unlike Socialism which is compulsory. Also notice that after the money ran out, they were all poor and had to depend on hand outs from the Churches and Paul for the rest of their lives, so the economic system that they chose to use, failed. It was a very clear picture of socialism today, except that the giving was not compulsory. The same thing happened when the Pilgrims came to America. They used socialism and shared everything. The first year over half of them starved to death. The very next year, they used Capitalistic principals and they all prospered and had the Thanksgiving dinner. Lesson? Capitalism works, Socialism fails every time, even in the Bible.
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xfrodobagginsx;1520296 wrote: I see that it's true then. No one here is bothered by the corruption of Clinton and Obama, but they are bothered by something that Trump did that Obama did also.



The curse of unbridled capitalism....economic prosperity as is happening right now in America thanks to Trump.

Ah...the book of Acts. Let's look at that shall we? The believers were expecting Christ to return and set up His eternal Kingdom any moment and, although they were not commanded to do so by God, they voluntarily put sold all of their goods and gave the money for all to live on. The difference there is that ALL giving was v o l u n t a r y, unlike Socialism which is compulsory. Also notice that after the money ran out, they were all poor and had to depend on hand outs from the Churches and Paul for the rest of their lives, so the economic system that they chose to use, failed. It was a very clear picture of socialism today, except that the giving was not compulsory. The same thing happened when the Pilgrims came to America. They used socialism and shared everything. The first year over half of them starved to death. The very next year, they used Capitalistic principals and they all prospered and had the Thanksgiving dinner. Lesson? Capitalism works, Socialism fails every time, even in the Bible.


You brought Trump into this thread. We didn't. You then tried to defend Trump's ridiculous behavior by attacking Clinton and Obama.

You have demonstrated that you know nothing of either Capitalism, or Socialism. You have little to offer but to parrot the pseudo-Right pundits, and idiot Evangelicals who probably know even less than you.
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I am not defending any of Trump's behavior before he was President. I merely pointed out that it didn't bother the Liberals until he changed into a Republican. They celebrated him before and he had his own show and star on the walk of fame. I do LOVE the way he stands up to the Left Wing Media though. Also, I pointed out how the Left isn't bothered by the mountain against Clinton and Obama, but they are bothered by the mole hill of Trump.



FACT: Trump's policies are working wonderfully because he is using Capitalism. The US economy is the best in decades and perhaps in history. GDP is already double of any year under Obama. Record high stock market. Record low unemployment. FACT: Obama's policies didn't work because he used Socialism. The US economy was one of the worst in history and his economic recovery was the weakest in history. GDP was half that of Trump. Record high welfare rolls under Obama to keep the poor down and dependent on the Government rather than prospering like they now do under Trump.

You can claim all you want that I don't know about Capitalism or Socialism, but Trump is using Capitalism Pro Business tactics and Obama used Socialism Anti Business tactics. We can CLEARLY see what actually works.

I don't want to discuss this topic in this thread please. Let's use the 'Russian Politician: US Spies slept while Russia elected Trump' thread to continue this discussion please.
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Fight to read Bible in public hits Britain:



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xfrod you are correct in that some of his policies are working but only for the rich. The jobs are either part time or underpaid so that the rich get richer and the poor poorer. He said he was going to be the president for all Americans when in fact he is only looking after the rich and not the 2 million homeless children or the parents who have to work a many jobs and are still unable to have decent meals. Just on the news the former adviser to Trump was fired. He claimed to know nothing about it. In a conversation he told here he was sorry to see here go. Now he calls here wacky and a looser. He is the most repulsive man I have had the honor of never meeting him. The only loser is Trump and the only fake news comes directly out of the White House. In my view you live in a very sick country. There are some Americans who are decent and they have to put up with, what in my opinion, is a loser.
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Re Britain and the fight to read the Bible. The Bible is purely a religious book and has no place being used in the classroom or in a multicultural Public. If the Quran was being read in public all hell would break loose.. When I think what the missionaries did to Canadian First Nations it was criminal.Save the Bible for those who actually want to read it. I have no problem with that. I do not belittle the Bible, the Quran or the Vedas or any other sacred writings.
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Oops sorry for the double post.
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I notice that xfrod totally ignored my post re the TV program "The American Dream" Guse he really is afraid of the truth.
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Ted;1520319 wrote: xfrod you are correct in that some of his policies are working but only for the rich. The jobs are either part time or underpaid so that the rich get richer and the poor poorer. He said he was going to be the president for all Americans when in fact he is only looking after the rich and not the 2 million homeless children or the parents who have to work a many jobs and are still unable to have decent meals. Just on the news the former adviser to Trump was fired. He claimed to know nothing about it. In a conversation he told here he was sorry to see here go. Now he calls here wacky and a looser. He is the most repulsive man I have had the honor of never meeting him. The only loser is Trump and the only fake news comes directly out of the White House. In my view you live in a very sick country. There are some Americans who are decent and they have to put up with, what in my opinion, is a loser.


Wrong they don't only work for the rich. They work for everybody, the tax cuts were for everyone especially the poor and the middle class. That's why Black unemployment and Latino unemployment are at all times lows and they are a disadvantaged block in the population. Get it now? The poor are getting out of poverty. Go to the other thread I mentioned if you want to talk about Trump.
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xfrodobagginsx;1058898 wrote: ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. If you will confess to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, accept Him as Lord and Savior and believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead you will be saved.

Joh 1:12 Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?



ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?

4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please humble yourself before God and pray this prayer to Him from your heart:

"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I repent and turn to You as Lord of my life. I place my faith completely in You.

Please take me to heaven with You when I die. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you prayed that prayer to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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xfrod you are either willfully ignorant of brainwashed. I do not believe one word that man utters. One day he says one thing and the next day the totally opposite. Believe that guy?????? that is a joke.
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xfrod I trust in the Divine. I need no dogma or doctrine.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/14/white-h ... trump.html

But according to the official count from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, most of the employment gains for black people since the Great Recession occurred during the Obama administration.

During the eight years President Barack Obama was in office, black employment rose by roughly 3.2 million, or more than four times the 700,000 jobs added so far since Trump took office.

Sanders subsequently admitted in a Twitter post that she had not spoken the truth, claiming her numbers "were correct, but the time frame for Pres Obama wasn't."

How an avowed Christian can support a lying scoundrel puzzles me.
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Ted;1520338 wrote: xfrod you are either willfully ignorant of brainwashed. I do not believe one word that man utters. One day he says one thing and the next day the totally opposite. Believe that guy?????? that is a joke.


You mean like Obama? Examples please.
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willfully blind and brain washed.
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LarsMac good comment.
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LarsMac;1520344 wrote: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/14/white-h ... trump.html

But according to the official count from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, most of the employment gains for black people since the Great Recession occurred during the Obama administration.

During the eight years President Barack Obama was in office, black employment rose by roughly 3.2 million, or more than four times the 700,000 jobs added so far since Trump took office.

Sanders subsequently admitted in a Twitter post that she had not spoken the truth, claiming her numbers "were correct, but the time frame for Pres Obama wasn't."

How an avowed Christian can support a lying scoundrel puzzles me.


So, according to this graph, Obama did nothing for blacks in his first term. Black unemployment went way up. The first year or so of his second term went up to it's previously high unemployment rate among them and then it went down for a few years. Then Trump took office and pushed it much higher. Ok thanks. Obama had the worst economic recovery after a recession of any President in History because of Socialism. Trump 2020.
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