Can you believe this?

Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:02 am

:-5 Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:10 pm

Scrat wrote: Drink the koolaid, drink the koolaid.

You're kidding?:o huh?

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:40 pm

Are there any Bush supporters left? Well, as usual it'll take some kind of tragedy for someone to figure out this isn't a good idea. (sigh):(

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:05 pm

Jives wrote: Are there any Bush supporters left? Well, as usual it'll take some kind of tragedy for someone to figure out this isn't a good idea. (sigh):(
:yh_rotfl

I'm sorry. I know you didn't mean this as a Jack Benny-esque line, but it sure struck me funny!

As for me, I'm checking to see how my reps voted.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:34 pm

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Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:50 pm

If I remember correctly, Clinton turned over a former naval base in Califiornia to the Chinese(his big campaign donors). Anyone remember this and/or have updated info about what it is being used for?

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:10 pm

Adam Zapple wrote: If I remember correctly, Clinton turned over a former naval base in Califiornia to the Chinese(his big campaign donors). Anyone remember this and/or have updated info about what it is being used for?

I found this:

LONG BEACH NAVAL STATION

JANUARY 1999

COSCO BANNED FROM LONG BEACH
On October 17, 1998, H.R. 3616, the Fiscal Year 1999 Defense Authorization Act was signed by the President and became law.

Among the measures contained in the law is a provision, authored by Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), denying the President the authority to issue a waiver allowing the China Ocean Shipping Company (COSCO) to lease a terminal at the former Long Beach Naval Station.

According to a report by the House Task Force on Terrorism, "Although presented as a commercial entity, COSCO is actually an arm of the Chinese military establishment. COSCO provides services to the logistics and and transportation arms of the PLA's [People's Liberation Army] Navy and Air Force."

The Task Force also found that "COSCO is purchasing, under a commercial cover, both cargo ships and, more recently, transport aircraft the PLA cannot purchase for military uses. . . COSCO ships serve as a vehicle for the transportation of strategic material to allies of the PRC is support of their strategic programs -- development of ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons, chemical and biological weapons. COSCO not only carries military and strategic cargoes from the PRC and North Korea to such countries as Pakistan, Iran and Syria -- but also carries strategic items and materials illegally purchased in Western Europe to these countries while concealing the ultimate destination."

This new law was necessary because a previous law (which was also written by Rep. Hunter) was weakened by a compromise with the Senate which allowed President Clinton to issue a national security waiver allowing COSCO to take over the terminal.

If the Republicans stoped this, how can they condone this?

Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:21 pm

You're right, cowboy. There are some Republicans worried by this move, hopefully they will stop it.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:54 pm

StupidCowboyTricks wrote: If the Republicans stoped this, how can they condone this?

How can any American condone it? Who the hell came up with the idea??

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:57 pm

Accountable wrote: How can any American condone it? Who the hell came up with the idea??

Since it is suppose to be law let's see what happens.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:00 pm

StupidCowboyTricks wrote: Since it is suppose to be law let's see what happens.I think the article says the vote's tomorrow.

Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:01 am

If there was any doubt that this is a terrible idea it has been removed - Jimmy Carter has announced his support for Bush's deal.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:20 am

Adam Zapple wrote: If there was any doubt that this is a terrible idea it has been removed - Jimmy Carter has announced his support for Bush's deal.Carter & O'Reilly support it; Hillary and Frist are against it. Where to turn? Where to turn?

The UAE are technically our allies, but I certainly don't want them in control of our shipping.