What makes a good president/prime minister?

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:24 am

I've often thought that anyone who wanted to lead a country wasn't fit to be a leader.

We usually hear more about what is wrong with candidates than what is right about them. How would you describe the ideal leader?

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:29 am

winning the election is a good start:D

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:31 am

jimbo;542447 wrote: winning the election is a good start:D

I think that is usually the point where it all goes bad. :wah:

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:53 am

I think that to be a good president/prime minister, they must be a good sales person. Have the inate ability to sell the citizenry on a particuar course of action that is beneficial to all, but may not be popular. (Swallow the bitter pill, it's good for you). Hopefully, that good leader would not be akin to someone like Adolph Hitler (he was a good salesman/.

Mystery · Post by **Mystery** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:05 pm

I'd think they most certainly need to know the constitution (or other document in whatever country) inside and out, and respect that without fail. Not try to get around it in whatever under-the-table means are necessary. And they need to rule for the people, not against every-single thing the people believe in.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:21 pm

koan;542443 wrote: I've often thought that anyone who wanted to lead a country wasn't fit to be a leader.

We usually hear more about what is wrong with candidates than what is right about them. How would you describe the ideal leader?

As you suggest, being dragged to the post, kicking and screaming all the way, is a good start.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:25 pm

How would I describe my ideal leader???

Me. :rolleyes:

I tell ya, I'd make them trains run on time anyway.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:34 pm

Galbally;542472 wrote: How would I describe my ideal leader???

Me. :rolleyes:

I tell ya, I'd make them trains run on time anyway.

you just got me thinking that it could be fun to have mock elections on FG.

Of course it is a monarchy. The elections would be for prime minister.

Nominations required. A week of campaigning and then election debate/speeches and a vote.

fun?

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:38 pm

Include me out. I don't want the soddin job. I'd sooner:-5 :-5

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:39 pm

I wouldn't want it either.

If we did mock elections on FG (no idea what the winner really gets other than a funky sig for a week) it would be interesting to see how the campaigning worked.

Sweet Tooth · Post by **Sweet Tooth** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:48 pm

Lon;542456 wrote: I think that to be a good president/prime minister, they must be a good sales person. Have the inate ability to sell the citizenry on a particuar course of action that is beneficial to all, but may not be popular. (Swallow the bitter pill, it's good for you). Hopefully, that good leader would not be akin to someone like Adolph Hitler (he was a good salesman/.

A salesperson is too fake- believe me- I work with real estate agents and sales people all the time- the best person to lead a country is someone whos best intentions are the people of the country and not care whether some people thought it right or wrong- he would be willing to "swallow the bitter pill" and be hated by some! Unfortunatly, we will never be able to pick the perfect leader- no matter who or what, no one will be perfect. Sucks!

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:48 pm

Chookie;542486 wrote: Include me out. I don't want the soddin job. I'd sooner:-5 :-5

Just the person we need - kicking and screaming :wah:

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:51 pm

Bryn Mawr;542499 wrote: Just the person we need - kicking and screaming :wah:

Right then. I second the nomination.

Chookie! Chookie! Chookie!

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:57 pm

As neither you nor I want the job,we could be referees or umpires

911 · Post by **911** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:06 pm

Unfortunately, some of the best people for the job would never make it pass the committee. Those who drink, have used drugs, had affairs or been arrested. In other words, someone who knows what the rest of us go through.

He/she would have to be middle class with kids in public school, eats fast food on occasion, been late with bills and know what it's like to squeeze a penny.

Definately not someone born with a silver spoon and never know the meaning of a dollar or what it means to save money or use coupons. Not someone who got a new car every birthday, a diamond ring just because or went on vacations to exotic places because that was the place to be.

Someone who doesn't know someone famous or influential. Someone who doesn't think Oprah walks on water and is the goddess of the great giveaways. (Geez, I can't stand that woman!)

In other words, someone normal, average, and OK-Joe/Jane.

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:10 pm

koan;542501 wrote: Right then. I second the nomination.

Chookie! Chookie! Chookie!

Can't be me - I don't consider myself a good enough liar. So and I've always wanted a reason to say this:- If nominated, I will not run, if elected, I will not serve. (I dedicate this saying to G W Bush and T. Blair)

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:19 pm

I am a complete liar and a fraud so I am all up for it, I nominate myself to have all the power, forever, thank you, good night, and good luck. :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:59 pm

My campaign has already started, so you better get this election sorted koan.

VOTE ME, I AM GALBALLY, VOTE ME, FOLLOW THE LEADER, DO NOT BE ALARMED, ALL IS WELL, I KNOW WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY, I AM GALBALLY, I LOVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE BAD THINGS, VOTE ME, DON'T LOOK BACK, WE SHALL ALL WALK INTO A GLOORIOUS NEW ERA AT FG, I AM GALBALLY, VOTE ME. :-6

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:01 pm

Far Rider;542555 wrote: Honesty, and straightforwardness. Demonstrated and upright character to abide by the laws of the nation he/she lives in. Someone who is fiscally responsible. Someone who sets aside partisanship attitudes when he takes office and deals with everybody equally. And I think thats a just a good start.

God in that case i'm not voting for anyone here :p :p

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:26 pm

Far Rider;542580 wrote: I'll flirt with you more if you vote for me!

:-4

Are you sure your not in that line of business already?? :rolleyes:

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:39 pm

Far Rider;542585 wrote: Leadership or flirtin?

:-3

ahahahah

Sorry Koan for stealin yer thread! :wah:

Both of course, they go hand in hand, I'd say you'd be perfect for the job :-6

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:57 pm

Galbally;542560 wrote: My campaign has already started, so you better get this election sorted koan.

VOTE ME, I AM GALBALLY, VOTE ME, FOLLOW THE LEADER, DO NOT BE ALARMED, ALL IS WELL, I KNOW WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY, I AM GALBALLY, I LOVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE BAD THINGS, VOTE ME, DON'T LOOK BACK, WE SHALL ALL WALK INTO A GLOORIOUS NEW ERA AT FG, I AM GALBALLY, VOTE ME. :-6

I nominate:

Galbally, Far Rider, Bryn Mawr and jimbo

We need a good variety of candidates who will have vastly different campaign strategies.

Do you all accept the nominations?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:02 pm

koan;542589 wrote: I nominate:

Galbally, Far Rider, Bryn Mawr and jimbo

We need a good variety of candidates who will have vastly different campaign strategies.

Do you all accept the nominations?

I do, but what about the ladies???

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:02 pm

koan;542589 wrote: I nominate:

Galbally, Far Rider, Bryn Mawr and jimbo

We need a good variety of candidates who will have vastly different campaign strategies.

Do you all accept the nominations?

i cannot accept , due to miss adventures on clapham common

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:05 pm

Galbally;542594 wrote: I do, but what about the ladies???

I haven't seen any in here who seemed interested

jimbo;542596 wrote: i cannot accept , due to miss adventures on clapham common

should I take that as a yes?

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:06 pm

Ah, Mystery is a pretty reasonable person.

We can nominate Mystery but she already has a forum area keeping her busy.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:07 pm

koan;542598 wrote: I haven't seen any in here who seemed interested

should I take that as a yes?

It's not that I'm not interested Koan, I think I would truly cause mayhem in the first hour

Could I be the person who sings Happy Birthday to the president in a strange voice :-2

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:10 pm

SuzyB;542601 wrote: It's not that I'm not interested Koan, I think I would truly cause mayhem in the first hour

Could I be the person who sings Happy Birthday to the president in a strange voice

absolutely!!!

but only if you talk jimbo into running.

i really want to see what slogans he comes up with.

we could say that all the candidates have to have a female campaign manager. what would they do without us? :wah:

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:12 pm

koan;542602 wrote: absolutely!!!

but only if you talk jimbo into running.

i really want to see what slogans he comes up with.

we could say that all the candidates have to have a female campaign manager. what would they do without us? :wah:

I'd feel sorry for the poor sod that got lumbered with me, I'd probably drop him in the do do and he'll be stepping down on his first day :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:13 pm

In terms of the ladies, I nominate Hammy, Suzy B, Cher&Buster, and Chonisgirl. I would like a running mate. heheheheheheh. :sneaky:

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:15 pm

Far Rider;542603 wrote: I counter-nominate Koan. :wah:

you are definitely out of the running!

You war monger :wah:

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:16 pm

Galbally;542607 wrote: In terms of the ladies, I nominate Hammy, Suzy B, Cher&Buster, and Chonisgirl. I would like a running mate. heheheheheheh. :sneaky:

I was thinking of Minks

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:17 pm

koan;542589 wrote: I nominate:

Galbally, Far Rider, Bryn Mawr and jimbo

We need a good variety of candidates who will have vastly different campaign strategies.

Do you all accept the nominations?

I'm on half term grandson amusing duties as of close of play tonight.

Another week maybe :sneaky: (then again, maybe not)

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:18 pm

Galbally;542607 wrote: In terms of the ladies, I nominate Hammy, Suzy B, Cher&Buster, and Chonisgirl. I would like a running mate. heheheheheheh. :sneaky:

Honestly I'd be useless,I prefer the role of a Gangsters Moll, which means I'd be seeing lots of whoever gets elected :sneaky: :-4

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:21 pm

Bryn Mawr;542615 wrote: I'm on half term grandson amusing duties as of close of play tonight.

Another week maybe :sneaky: (then again, maybe not)

Alright so we have a week of nominations first.

The job can be left as defined by the candidates... based on what they think they can do for FG.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:37 pm

Far Rider;542625 wrote: hehehe, now thats funny!

can ya put a daisy in my gun barrel?;)

I can do a lot of things. Never been asked that one before though.

jmb · Post by **jmb** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:42 pm

possibly to con the people long enough to get his peerage and a lucrative pension and other perks , jmb:rolleyes:

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:09 pm

Koan this makes me laugh and only you will get this but I think someone like Ralph Klien would make a good leader ahahahaha

One beer for me, one beer for you ahahahahaha

Roses are red

violets are blue

vote for me

and not for you

Am I in ????

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:12 pm

minks;542704 wrote: Koan this makes me laugh and only you will get this but I think someone like Ralph Klien would make a good leader ahahahaha

One beer for me, one beer for you ahahahahaha

Alberta should own Canada. :yh_party

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:13 pm

minks;542704 wrote: Koan this makes me laugh and only you will get this but I think someone like Ralph Klien would make a good leader ahahahaha

One beer for me, one beer for you ahahahahaha

Roses are red

violets are blue

vote for me

and not for you

Am I in ????

yep

I'll confirm you in the nominations thread.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:14 pm

Ok seriously this time

I am all about respect, fairness and listening to both sides of the story.

Give it yer best shot.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:36 pm

we've got the nominations in progress.

this thread is good for the candidates to get an idea of what people are looking for in a leader. though you are welcome to be completely silly as well. sometimes that's what people need.

Irmin · Post by **Irmin** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:15 pm

Just look to the late great Adolf Hitler for the answer, Koan. No othre leader in the modern age could have presented themselves with the image of Messiah, yet remain in tune with his people. To turn a wreckd and defeated nation into one of the most powerful and proud countries in the world...work of a true good leader.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:16 pm

Irmin;663546 wrote: Just look to the late great Adolf Hitler for the answer, Koan. No othre leader in the modern age could have presented themselves with the image of Messiah, yet remain in tune with his people. To turn a wreckd and defeated nation into one of the most powerful and proud countries in the world...work of a true good leader.

You've got to be kidding me

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:20 pm

Irmin;663546 wrote: Just look to the late great Adolf Hitler for the answer, Koan. No othre leader in the modern age could have presented themselves with the image of Messiah, yet remain in tune with his people. To turn a wreckd and defeated nation into one of the most powerful and proud countries in the world...work of a true good leader.

:wah:

God.

:wah:

Fairness....integrity....intelligence....common sense....compassion....a deep sense of humanity.....strong personal code.....willingness to hear all sides....drive to get the job done.....humility....a sense of decency....an ability to connect with people of all walks.