WW3 - New World Order - Pole Shift - Age of Peace (2006-2012)

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:35 pm

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans, as descendants of the legendary Atlanteans, predict an even even more violent that is supposed to occur on our Earth sometime between the years of 2009-December 21, 2012.

They calculated that after almost 12,000 years, there will be another gigantic reversal of the magnetic field of the Sun! When that happens, there will be trillions of particles that will reach the Earth's poles and set them on "fire". This will put alot of pressure on the Earth and its magnetic field will become overcharged. Alot of electrical forces will be generated which will fill the Earth's poles with auroras from the falling particles of the Sun. And then, inevitably, the Earth's magnetic field will crash.

After the magnetic field of the Earth crashes, it will then soon after reverse. Once it reverses completely, our entire planet will start spinning the other way.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:48 pm

Many scientists have tried to pass off our Earth's magnetic field as being "weak". This is completely false. When you measure the size of the Earth's magnetic field you will see figures that will flabbergast you, and you will realize that it is a colossal structure.

The Sun also has two equally spectacular magnetic fields. If you zoomed in closer to the Sun, you would see a super-impressive rotating field that is driven by the magnetic fields. Should you watch the field of the Sun's equator from a spaceship, you would be overwhelmed by the image in your retina. The equatorial field of the Sun rotates around its own axis at the incredible speed of 7,000 kilometers per hour! And with it, cluttered masses of matter are dragged along. It is a gigantic, burning top, with solar flames tormenting its surface.

If you projected the Earth onto a small solar flame, you would only detect it as a tiny pinhead in all that violence. The magnetic powers of the Sun are, to this extent, out of this World! And when they explode onto our Earth during the next Pole-Shift, we will experience something that the people of the Earth haven't had to endure for 12,000 years.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Mon May 14, 2007 5:19 pm

TruthBringer;611583 wrote: Many scientists have tried to pass off our Earth's magnetic field as being "weak". This is completely false. When you measure the size of the Earth's magnetic field you will see figures that will flabbergast you, and you will realize that it is a colossal structure.

The Sun also has two equally spectacular magnetic fields. If you zoomed in closer to the Sun, you would see a super-impressive rotating field that is driven by the magnetic fields. Should you watch the field of the Sun's equator from a spaceship, you would be overwhelmed by the image in your retina. The equatorial field of the Sun rotates around its own axis at the incredible speed of 7,000 kilometers per hour! And with it, cluttered masses of matter are dragged along. It is a gigantic, burning top, with solar flames tormenting its surface.

If you projected the Earth onto a small solar flame, you would only detect it as a tiny pinhead in all that violence. The magnetic powers of the Sun are, to this extent, out of this World! And when they explode onto our Earth during the next Pole-Shift, we will experience something that the people of the Earth haven't had to endure for 12,000 years.

based on current known information of the polar shifts, many, even hundreds, have occurred over the eons of earth's existance. these didscoveries were made in the mid-to late 1980's when magnetic anomolies were discovered in several areas highly suseptible to magnetic changes. based on scientific analysis, the absolute directions of the poles were recorded with both large and minute variations in the magnetic particles in areas suseptible to keeping the newly aligned directions of the magnetic particles in iron-rich rock areas. measurements showed so many different directional variations, that many scientists were convinced the changes were caused by conditions other than polar changes. fortunately, further investigation has confirmed the original speculations about the shifting of the earth's magnetic field.

Monk98 · Post by **Monk98** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:00 pm

hey TB,,do you know what yor whole problem is?

you're way to paranoid my man.

what you really need to do is,get away from the damn computer for awhile,,im not talking a few mins,,i mean for a few weeks.

you also need to lay off the coffee ,maybe try some decaf,or even some herbal tea

but seriously jr,,you are way to f*cking paranoid for my a$$...people like you scare the sh*t out of me

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:49 pm

Monk98;627012 wrote: hey TB,,do you know what yor whole problem is?

you're way to paranoid my man.

what you really need to do is,get away from the damn computer for awhile,,im not talking a few mins,,i mean for a few weeks.

you also need to lay off the coffee ,maybe try some decaf,or even some herbal tea

but seriously jr,,you are way to f*cking paranoid for my a$$...people like you scare the sh*t out of me

you should be scared out of your mind. it's coming and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. don't even bother digging a hole to crawl into, because when the groung doesn't stay put, do you think your hole will? be afraid, be very f*cking afraid.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:30 pm

Thousands of years ago, the predecessors of the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans discovered the powers of solar magnetism. They knew that grim events hide behind this phenomenon. Further research helped the ancient scientists discover that the rotating field of the Sun winds itself like a coil, like a fight between competing powers. On one hand gravity tries to merge all matter, while on the other hand magnetic powers fight against this. For awhile, these competitive powers succeed in keeping in balance with each other, and live peacefully side-by-side. However, when instabilities start taking place, these forces are unleashed in a powerful manner.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:40 pm

The Ancient Egyptians and Mayans had solved alot of other enigmas as well, such as the phases of the Moon, and the solar eclipses and seasons. They could explain, for instance, the solar eclipses, by the fact that the geometrical positions of the Earth, the Sun and the Moon were at that moment aligned. This is due to a regular manner in which these celestial bodies move around each other in defined trajectories. These things happened because of scientific patterns.

But what about sudden events on the Sun? What chain of causes lay behind these? By thinking logically, they also knew that earthquakes were the result of the accumulation of tensions in the Earth crust.

Their faith became their driving force: every super-eruption on the Sun was caused by a portending event. Even when you can only understand a part of the total image, in principle there has to be a superior mechanism behind it all, something that rules all other things. With the help of that mechanism, it had to be possible to predict the violent future of the Sun and its repercussions on the Earth.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:06 pm

The Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans discovered a geometrical order about the Sun that, once it reached a crucial phase, would cause an obscure "short-circuit". The field would run wild then die a violent death in a super Sunstorm. Shortly after this, it would reverse the Earth's magnetic field resulting in a super catastrophe for all living beings on the planet.

The Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans realized that the future hangs by a thread, and that it is as fragile as the Earth will be in the bursting violence of the Sun. Therefore they had to find the answer to this imperative question: When will the rotating field of the Sun decidedly change the cycle of life and death on Earth? And find the answer they did.

The Ancient Egyptian Zodiac and the Ancient Mayan codices are both crown jewels of mathematical and astronomical mastery. Like crown jewels of pure gold, inlaid with super-bright diomands of the highest quality. When you see the groundwork behind their codes, you simply cannot deny it.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:16 pm

the ancient mayans and egyptians both were the remnants of the atlantean culture and had no need to find the needed means to calculate solar and polar activities. they already had the knowledge. what they did not have was a means of recording it in a manner which would require a mastery of higher mathematics to decode it. as you know, over the centuries much of the knowledge they would leave behind was lost, not because there was no one to find it, but because there was no knowledge of the higher mathematics needed to decode it. the population had immersed itself into barbarism and the fight for survival, and lost the ability to pass on what their anscestors had left them.

this is what the fall was which the book of genesis described. mankind did not fall from heaven, but had abused the knowledge he had and was forced into a position in which survival was the most important thing he faced. he did not have the time to spare to keep up with the amount of study required to keep the knowledge he had had and thus it was lost, and in some cases, it passed into myth and legend, which then was institutionalized and is now called religion. it will remain so until the time of the renewal when it shall be discovered once again and returned to the people who survive what is coming.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:30 pm

The panorama of the codes is unveiling a grim view of events that will spare very few Human Beings. Our lives and the continuity of mankind depend on these secrets being revealed. For many people the decipherings will seem too complicated, but they will surely understand its astonishing revelations.

In scientific dissertations, a real deciphering has to contain a bit more than just a hunch. It has to be convincing and should be supported by consistent principles. And the Ancient's codes are such.

Mathematicians have the greatest respect for theories that are developed on a strict mathematical basis. And the Ancient's codes are also such. They contain results and comparisons that enable further decoding. Anybody who can add, subtract, divide, and multiply can confirm this.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:37 pm

Astronomers need to research the Sunspot cycle urgently. Just like the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans, they should then be able to calculate the fatal date we have awaiting us. This way, we will not only be aware of what is coming, but we can also take the necessary measures to rescue mankind.

The fatal date that the Ancients gave us must be taken extremely seriously. Besides the fact that they worked with round Holy Numbers, they also knew with wild accuracy some very important details.

Through logical reasoning, a person can calculate one thing on the basis of another. This shows an undeniable relation between the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans. They knew the secrets of Atlantis, as well as the Atlantean way of calculating what is to occur as we ALL approach December 21, 2012.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:16 pm

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans share common characteristics related to the catastrophe that is going to hit us. The Ancient Mayan's codes mainly concern the planet Venus and it's role in the catastrophe. The Zodiac and the precessional eras were more important to the Ancient Egyptians. Both civilizations incorporated the Sunspot cycle into their calculations. In the Egyptian ones, this was more difficult to decipher than in the Mayan ones.

In the year of the previous Pole-Shift, 9792 BC, Venus made a loop above and to the left of the constellation Orion. Sometime as we approach 2012 Venus will make a similar movement again. This will signal the Pole-Shift. Eventually, the whole Earth is going to start turning the other way around after the reversal of the poles.

The discovery of the works of the Ancients proves that their methods were not "coincidental", but that they were indeed a brilliant processing of common codes. In order to fully decipher the Ancient Mayan's Dresden Codex, you must first have all the essential Egyptian decipherings at your disposal. These prove the origins of the codes. The Sunspot cycle concerns the magnetic fields of the Sun and the Sunstorms, while the Egyptian Zodiac shows their consequences for the Earth.

The precession of the Zodiac can also be found in the Ancient Mayan's calculations of the Sunspot cycle. When the magnetic field of the Sun changes, the influence on our Earth is catastrophic. As mentioned many times before, after the coming Pole-Shift, our Earth will be landing in another age of the Zodiac. The Age of Aquarius.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:52 am

however much anyone, or any previuos civilization, knew what happened, and when it happened, it still happened. doomsayers have always been on the outer fringes of our society, from the early years of christianity, to the accusations of the arrival of the anti-christ by both popes and protestants, to declarations of the arrival of the tribulation due to man-made conditions such as the plague in the 13th-14th centuries, the war to end all wars in the late teen years of the 20th century to the current blustering of the evangelicals of our day. people are proclaiming this and that, the end of the world, the second coming of christ, and on and on. NO ONE is listening. they are too busy, trying to make a buck, keep out of jail, raise kids, run around like chickens with their heads cut off, and hundreds of other inane and useless tasks, to even think about what is coming. they are deaf to it. not because they don't understand or believe it's coming, but because they've learned to tune out the rest of the world as they pursue more mundane, and eventually, futile pursuits which will get them absolutely nowhere.

they have heard the cry "wolf" so many times before, that now, when they need to be getting prepared for a holocaust the likes of which have not been seen in millennnia, they just let it go in one ear and out the other and there is nothing that makes it stop in between. and for this lack of realization of the catastophic conditions which will soon be thrust upon them, they will be found lacking and suffer accordingly. it is just another day for them, but having seen the impact of a minor storm on the southern coastline of the us, they act quickly, and then having acted, they then ignore whatever came in the aftermath. this is what will happen in the aftermath of the polar shift. they will not be prepared, they will not get prepared, and when the disaster strikes, they will most assuredly suffer for their lack of foresight and preparation. they will not even see it coming until it's too late, and then what can they do? what will they do? will anyone be able to survive until the earth is once more geologically stable? many are being called to the preparations for the greatest test of mankind. who will heed that call? who will live and who will not? why not just nuke it all now, and let god sort it out?

who knows? who cares? what difference will it make?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:48 pm

Sometime within the next 6 years, the magnetic field of the Sun will change. A catastrophic Sunstorm will hit the Earth, resulting in the reversal of the Earth's magnetic poles, after which the rotation of our planet will reverse. Furthermore, the Earth will be catapulted into Aquarius. The code of Venus correlates with this moment in time. For several months, Venus will make an apparent retrograde movement above Orion. With their prior calculations and clever encoding of this event, the Ancient Egyptians as well as the Ancient Mayans proved their advanced knowledge of this event.

Everybody knows the old saying, "Third time's a charm", but where does it come from? Nobody seems to know. But I am of the opinion that there is something definately to that statement. And we (as a Human race) are about to experience our third Pole-Shift here on Earth.

Theoretically, after 1,924 years one can see a first deviation in the tenth long Sunspot cycle. This could provoke an increase of the solar activity. After doubling this period to 3,848 years the deviation becomes clear. It concerns the reversal of the magnetic field. Because the reversal of the magnetic field takes place after two thirds (66.6%) of a Sunspot cycle of 11,567 years, it doesn't involve a fierce or even a broken-off reversal. The same holds for the next change. Not until the third reversal of the magnetic field can we speak of an all-demolishing change, because then it coincides with the reversal of the corresponding Sunspot cycle. At that moment the Sun's energy will increase its force of radiation and send a gigantic cloud of plasma in the direction of the Earth.

When you multiply 3,848 years by three, it results in 11,544 years. This is extremely close to 11,520 years, the period between the previous two Pole-Shifts. And what does this mean? It means that the next one is right around the corner.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:21 pm

Passionate researchers and mathematicians should study this more carefully. They will possibly find even more codes and unveil other secrets of the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans. A person can link their eternal language of mathematics to time: glorious and transient time.

Since the coming into existence of the Ancient Egyptian and Mayan codes, thousands of kingdoms have risen and perished. Despite all these countless frictions, their coded messages have survived unscathed for centuries, simply and soley through the existence of some important papyri. They show more than clearly many detailed correlations that are too clear and that carry the recognizable traces of an elaborate design. And their obsession with numbers was unrivalled.

How can a person not feel completely knocked out by such complicated beauty? Their codes are indeed more than clear. Their calculations of a long-lost civilization are absolutely correct up to an infinite number of figures after the decimal point! And we should take their announcements of the next Pole-Shift extremely seriously! The codes of these old scientists are cleverer and more advanced than many of our present day programs! They are full of super-clever mathematical calculations. Everything fits in; you find an answer to everything.

Amazing buildings, bright and shining in their magnitude, were designed by these mysterious people that dreamt of Eternal Life after Death. The burning fire of their passion for numbers emanates so immensely, that there are no words to describe it. All the key elements of their calculations fit into refined and advanced formulas. When classifying their rows of numbers using the same logic, you stumble upon an enormous instrument. This complicated system gives almost appallingly beautiful results, full of mystical and Spiritual mysteries, and at the same time functional and efficient. It was constructed by the ancients to fulfill a task, demanding in a stylish way the complete attention of researchers.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:41 pm

The Ancient Egyptians and Mayans had reproduced the period between the previous two and the coming Pole-Shift quite accurately in mathematical terms. For these reasons we can be sure of the arithmetical abilities of the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans, who have situated the next catastrophic Pole-Shift to occur sometime very soon.

The turbulent events from the past were so terrifying that our ancestors did anything to find the answers to their important questions. And this super accuracy that they developed, which they then passed down to their descendants, is one of the remarkable outcomes of their thinking and calculations. For the time being it is still a riddle how exactly they were able to do this, however it also leaves the door open for future research.

Again, everything these Ancients measured and built radiates the same obsession for extreme exactitude, as if their lives had depended on it. And they did. On the basis of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun, they were able to define the period of the magnetic fields of the Sun up to several figures after the decimal point. Once you know these values, you are able to make predictions about the Sun. The results of which reveal the coming Pole-Shift that WILL SOON CHANGE EVERYTHING AS WE HAVE EVER KNOWN IT ON THIS PLANET.

And that my friends, is the reality of our situation.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:23 am

when you state that the pole shift occurs, it will be followed by many changes, you are not quite on the money. there are many physical, economic and political changes which will occur prior to the shift. not all will be considered good, especially some of the economic and political changes. however, once the pole shift occurs, the number of physical changes will occur at such a rapid pace that the economic, and political changes will be beneficial to those most suseptible to changes, not for those who desire tthings to remain the same. monetary systems will be totally, and permanently destroyed, political systems will be nearly, but not totally destroyed, and political boundries will no longer be defined.

the loss of economic controls will enhance, not limit, the development, and return to a higher level of personal and mental conciousness which will totally change the remaining population's abilities to deal effectively with each other without causing another to be harmed.

furthermore, with this higher level of conciousness, physical speech will no longer be able to hide the inner thoughts between individuals because the new sppeech which will be taught will be the ability to converse through the mind alone. though it will be limited to a few individuals of a group in the early stages, it will eventually give way to being able to communicate to larger and larger groups as the ability becomes stronger and more commonly used in everyday relations.

this ability will not just pop up suddenly, but be taught to everyone from birth. it is inherent in each individual now, but due to the prepondrance of scientific evidence, false though it is, it is denied, and only a small number of people are able to use it in any degree.

there will also be visitations, some for the express purpose to salvage some of the survivors, but others to provide rescue stations while the earth itself completes its re-adjustments in its physical formations between dry land and water.

these visitors have already been appearing, but there are those who prevent it being common knowledge for fear of what the masses might think, and how they may react. they are curreently coming as teachers, as engineers and , of course, as plain sightseers who come for no other reason than to get a good laugh because of our ignorance.

lastly, the saviour so many claim will appear just before the final conflagration, won't. religion, itself, will fall by the wayside. both of these false ideas were foisted on humanity, not for their betterment, but for their preperation to accept something even greater. the disappointment some will feel will be unjustified since they expect what they cannot have, and which they should never have been led to believe they would recieve. instead, they will get what they had, and tossed aside, through ignorance and stupidity, and will become greater than they could ever have hoped to become. they will become aware of what they are, not what they have been led to think they are.

humanity, in short, will rise up from the flames of the coming trials just like the phoenix rises up from the flames of his own death, to become alive once more. all this will begin in just a few years.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:40 pm

The Ancient Atlanteans, the Ancient Egyptians, and the Ancient Mayans all knew the number zero, and they used exact figures after the decimal point. Neither the Greeks nor the Romans did this. In the eighth century of our era the Arabs re-discovered the number zero through an astronomical work from Indonesia. Only in the twelfth century did the Muslims introduce this in Spain.

It would take two more centuries before the whole of Europe could use the number zero. Knowing this makes the enormous knowledge of the Ancient Atlanteans, Egyptians, and Mayans ever more impressive.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:46 pm

Perhaps one of the most amazing things of all is that the "Holy" calculations of the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans can be supported by our presently-known denary scale! When you look at their calculations, you can discover this immediately! The similarities emanate from the present way of adding, subtracting, dividing, and multiplying. This means that our present system must be some what of an inheritance from the Ancient Atlanteans, and that it has been passed down to us through the survivors.

With this knowledge, the list of Ancient Atlantean legacies becomes quite long. Besides the time chronology (seconds, minutes, hours), the Ancient Atlanteans gave us astronomy (360 degrees, pyramid, volume, ect.). They also were the first known civilization to know the values for the Sunspot cycle. They were one of the first to develop architecture, the art of writing and, now, the denary scale. This is quite a performance for a completely forgotten civilization.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:51 pm

The Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans knew the exact figures of the Sunspot cycle. With these exact figures they could calculate the moment of the violent reversal of the Suns's magnetism. It is up to us to solve this riddle as soon as possible. Only in this way will the World be convinced of the approaching calamity.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:59 pm

TruthBringer;649755 wrote: The Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans knew the exact figures of the Sunspot cycle. With these exact figures they could calculate the moment of the violent reversal of the Suns's magnetism. It is up to us to solve this riddle as soon as possible. Only in this way will the World be convinced of the approaching calamity.

the saying that "ignorance is bliss" is the main reason the vast majority of people in the earth are denied the truth which would save them from the coming cataclysms. it would only lead to chaos, not preperation. far too many of the majority have only the thought that they are free to do as they want, thus knowledge of what is coming would release them to act against all things which keep them in check at the current time. society itself would be unable to prevent anything from happening if the population decided they had nothing to loose, and everything to gain by just taking what they wanted without regard to consequences for their actions. since this chaotic activity would spread quickly and engulf the entire world, their would be no one who could be unnaffected. the total self-destruction of mankind would become a reality, even before the polar shift.

additionally, if science were able to prove with absolute certainty that the pole shift would occur, the information would just be sent to the government officials responsible for the public welfare and be slipped into some drawer to prevent the very thing they need to speak out about from becoming common knowledge. they would, of course, prepare for it, but only to save a select few, and thus have some way of maintaing the status quo afterwards. but since they don't believe something could occur in just a few years, and since science refuses to really delve into it, the full purpose of the shift will be able to occur and the outcome will be as it is meant to be, the quickening of the spirits of mankind.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:45 pm

charles_r51;649907 wrote: the saying that "ignorance is bliss" is the main reason the vast majority of people in the earth are denied the truth which would save them from the coming cataclysms. it would only lead to chaos, not preperation. far too many of the majority have only the thought that they are free to do as they want, thus knowledge of what is coming would release them to act against all things which keep them in check at the current time. society itself would be unable to prevent anything from happening if the population decided they had nothing to loose, and everything to gain by just taking what they wanted without regard to consequences for their actions. since this chaotic activity would spread quickly and engulf the entire world, their would be no one who could be unnaffected. the total self-destruction of mankind would become a reality, even before the polar shift.

additionally, if science were able to prove with absolute certainty that the pole shift would occur, the information would just be sent to the government officials responsible for the public welfare and be slipped into some drawer to prevent the very thing they need to speak out about from becoming common knowledge. they would, of course, prepare for it, but only to save a select few, and thus have some way of maintaing the status quo afterwards. but since they don't believe something could occur in just a few years, and since science refuses to really delve into it, the full purpose of the shift will be able to occur and the outcome will be as it is meant to be, the quickening of the spirits of mankind.

Nicely Stated.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:41 pm

the coming changes to the world as we know it will occur, not suddenly, nor within just a few weeks or even months. the earth is a dynamic object made up of various, and often competing forces involving geological, and geophysical forces seeking to achieve a balanced state. unfortunately, when these forces cannot reach the balance needed to kesson their impact, the just build up and , within some limits, release suddenly and sharply to get within a tolerable range. that is the reason an earthquake will strike without warning, while at other times it can be seen developing using today's instrumentation.

the polar shift will bring about a change in the balance of forces which must seek to become balanced again. while there will be many sudden, and extremely violent, earth movements, the full impact of the changes will not be realized for several decades. though the major changes will occur early in the re-balancing of the forces, the balance will continue over the longer term, but the early violence will not be repeated, as it would not achieve balance. the later adjustments will be smaller, and later near to nil, after the first three decades from the polar shift. it is during these later times that the quickening will occur. that is when mankind will finally become aware of his true nature.

the earth as the survivors see it, will be so different that it will be only from a limited number of surviving records, that our knowledge of the earth as it is now, will be able to be examined, and compared to the future makeup of the globe.

society will not be totally destroyed, but it will not be so self-centered as it is today. under the new conditions, mankind will once again, achieve a much needed upward developement unnaffected by self-centered gratification common to today's society.

many of what is commonly referred to as against the norm today, will become a common fact of life and allow mankind to truly achieve freedom to be what they are. the need for suffering will no longer be found as a common occurrance, but as a choice to face, and will allow for the individual to decide what is right for the person affected, not be a decision made by someone who has only a personal agenda to impose on others.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:43 pm

We are approaching the biggest catastrophe that Humanity has ever known and we are doing it at a terrifying speed. And as true ostriches, people continue to bury their heads in the sand, completely blind to what is awaiting them. However, the message of the old super-scientists is more than clear: the magnetic field of the Earth will reverse in one go and completely destroy our civilization.

The people who discovered this sent us a message in an international language, summarized in mathematical astronomical codes. Mystery after mystery can be revealed, because the whole was based on a meticulous scheme, an immeasurable whole comprising series of numbers, overlapping and complementing each other.

In a tearing rush, we are storming ahead to our Armageddon, the "World Fire". No movie star, however well paid, can save the World from it's coming downfall. On the contrary, considering the wealth and resources they have at hand, many of them will be the first to try to save themselves - if they believe that this cataclysm is coming in our direction. But since the press is hardly interested in the coming changes, the chance for even that may be very small.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:48 pm

it would not be in the best interests of the news media to actually say something of worth. they only want to let people know "the hottest news", and increase their advertising incomes, not let the people know what they can't believe anyway.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:52 pm

For the Ancient Atlanteans, Egyptians, and Mayans, the consciousness of the "End" was at the base of their ambitious projects of sky imitation: they mirrored on the ground what had happened in the sky or what will happen again. This was the basis of the whole religion and Spiritual thinking of these ancients. They wanted to save the following generations from total annihilation, from the complete disappearance of their knowledge, caused by the magnetic short-circuit on the Sun with its super Sunstorm. Their obsession with handing down this information intact survived for millennia, but finally their overwhelming knowledge about Pole-Shifts was lost, due mainly to wars. However, the Ancients left so many clear clues that it is almost impossible to disregard their superior science any longer.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm

charles_r51;650904 wrote: it would not be in the best interests of the news media to actually say something of worth. they only want to let people know "the hottest news", and increase their advertising incomes, not let the people know what they can't believe anyway.

So true. So sad. But so true.

charles_r51 · Post by **charles_r51** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:58 pm

sad? yes, true? yes. but fortunate for all. otherwise they'd worry themselves to death and lose all hope, which is not needed for, and would actually interfer with, the quickening. in this instance, ignorance is truly bliss.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:51 pm

When you decode the Egyptian Zodiac, you can find the Sunspot cycle of the Ancient Mayans. This deciphering also proves that the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans had a common origin. The Maya number for the orbit period of the Earth around the Sun confirms the decoding of the Sothic cycle. Once more, this proves the common origin of the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans.

Juggling the Ancient's figures makes everything fall into place. Don't forget, this is just a fraction of the stirring journey of discovery through their well-kept secrets. One by one, each can be dismantled to reveal the most important messages. And yet there are many more. In fact, that is just typical for a highly-developed civilization. Ours keeps many too, like the atomic bomb, the secret weapons, patented products, and so forth. However, none of them are as fascinating to me as those of disappeared civilizations like the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans.

The Ancient Egyptian and Mayan civilizations radiate an immensely rich source of knowledge. Their knowledge is closely connected to a catastrophe that swept away the old civilization of Aha-Men-Ptah (Atlantis), and one that is threatening to do the same with ours.

Singh-Song · Post by **Singh-Song** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:38 am

I'm sorry, but could you run that by me again? There are so many theories mixed up in this post. First, and most blatantly obvious, The whole, 'Age of Aquarius' theory has been slightly misrepresented. The Earth doesn't slip into the Aquarius region until the year 2552, so I'm not sure how that relates to something that's supposed to happen in the next six years? And, of course, there's the fact that Sun-spots represent cooler regions on the sun, hence higher periods of the sunspot cycle equate to lower periods of activity- In fact, the last high period co-incided with the Little Ice Age of the 1700's, so surely the chances of frizzling up like bacon are- somewhat remote?

P.S, TRUTHBRINGER, I'm interested to know- according to the Ancient Egyptians, Mayans and Atlanteans, when did this happen last? (Rough date, not just 'the fall of Atlantis' please)

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:01 pm

Singh-Song;652187 wrote: I'm sorry, but could you run that by me again? There are so many theories mixed up in this post. First, and most blatantly obvious, The whole, 'Age of Aquarius' theory has been slightly misrepresented. The Earth doesn't slip into the Aquarius region until the year 2552, so I'm not sure how that relates to something that's supposed to happen in the next six years? And, of course, there's the fact that Sun-spots represent cooler regions on the sun, hence higher periods of the sunspot cycle equate to lower periods of activity- In fact, the last high period co-incided with the Little Ice Age of the 1700's, so surely the chances of frizzling up like bacon are- somewhat remote?

P.S, TRUTHBRINGER, I'm interested to know- according to the Ancient Egyptians, Mayans and Atlanteans, when did this happen last? (Rough date, not just 'the fall of Atlantis' please)

Truth is Singh, is that most modern scientists have no clue about exactly when the "Age of Aquarius" begins. And thats the truth.

They themselves are coming up with mixed theories on the subject. Mixed theories in my opinion is a good thing. As long as they all tie into eachother.

As far as when was the last Pole-Shift? Many modern day scientists, as well as the ancients, both seem to place it at roughly 10,000 - 15,000 years ago.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:17 pm

Clearly it seems likely that cultural contact between the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans took place across the oceans and interfused some of the beliefs and customs between the two civilisations. Recent research from various sources suggests that trading links existed between Egypt and Mexico.

Ancient Egyptian tomb paintings, from the time of the fourth dynasty Pharaohs in around 2600 BC, depict paintings of papyrus reed boats that many believed capable of carrying crews, cargoes and legends from the old world of Egypt to the new world of central America.

The Norwegian explorer Thor Heyerdahl believed that these primitive boats could survive transoceanic passages. To prove this point he journeyed to Lake Chad, in the African interior, acquiring the skills to build a boat, along the lines of those in the tomb paintings, which would cope with the long sea journey. Assembling a crew of seven, he set sail from the West African port of Safi, in Morocco, in a papyrus reed boat named Ra (after the Egyptian Sun-"god"), which was 13.7 metres (45 feet) long, 4.6 metres (15 feet wide) and 1.8 metres (6 feet deep).

Carried by the trade winds and equatorial currents, Heyerdahl's boat covered 3,000 miles (4,830 kilometres) in just under eight weeks. After that distance, the boat suffered under a storm and sank beneath the ocean. However, After this semi-successful voyage, Heyerdahl decided to go for it again in 1970, and so he created another boat with a crew of 8 and called it Ra II .

Heyerdahl and his crew in Ra II reached the West Indies after 57 days at sea. Heryerdahl and his crew proved that primitive crossings could have been made of the Atlantic, from North Africa to Central America, using basic technology and materials. He had also shown that voyages like this could have been made over 3,000 years ago.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:28 pm

On balance, it seems clear that World trade facilitated the transportation of tobacco and cocaine from the Americas to Egypt either westwards or eastwards prior to 1000 BC. The legend of the feathered snake, together with the super-science it represented, could have accompanied the transfer of these goods. Both the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayans taught the same things at different times.

There are many other parallels between Ancient Egypt and Ancient Mexico as well.

1. Both civilisations worshipped the Sun and fertility.

2. Both cultures encoded information into their art, yet each ensured that about only half of the information could be seen, as though the knowledge was secret, and meant for few, not for the many.

3. Both civilisations cherished the lotus flower as a divine symbol.

4. Both civilisations were associated with the feathered snake.

5. Both civilisations had similar teachings and both of them encoded their sacred knowledge.

6. Both civilisations prophesied destruction.

7. Both civilisations believed in reincarnation and everlasting life.

8. Both civilisations believed in the after life.

9. Both civilisations believed in a form of resurrection.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:06 pm

So there we have it folks. 3 of the World's Ancient Civilizations all saying the same thing. The Atlanteans, the Ancient Egyptians, and the Ancient Mayans, all connected, all warning us about a forthcoming catastrophe, all trying to tell us what happened to their Lost Continent.

Now, each person has a choice here. They can either believe what they have been telling us, or they can choose to disregard it all as fairytales.

I have made my choice. And I believe in what they were trying to tell us. I do believe we are on the edge of a major catastrophic disaster on our Earth. And I do believe it's coming extremely soon. And all I can say for those that do not believe it is, "ignorance may be bliss, true, but only for so long."

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:15 pm

The knowledge that has been passed down to us from these ancient civilizations now allows us to explain a lot of geological mysteries from our current era. More than 12,000 years ago, huge parts of Europe and North America were covered with glaciers, countless mountains of ice. At that time Denmark did not exist, but there was a gruesome landscape reaching more than one kilometer high. The major part of the British Isles lay hidden under the ice, and there were vast glaciers in many more places. The present Hudson Bay used to be a frozen landscape of an unearthly whiteness. There was ice everywhere. The layers were so deep that even the top of the nearly 2,000 meter high Mount Washington in present day New Hampshire lay buried underneath. In the west another blanket of ice lay stretched out, from the northern Rocky Mountains to the Aleuts. In the Southern Hemisphere, glaciers hurtled down from the Andes and from the mountains of New Zealand.

Why are we nowadays so certain of that? It can be explained easily: ice layers and glaciers leave impressive traces behind when the melting point has been reached, the ice slides down hundreds of meters deep under its own weight. It grates the Earth's surface and takes the debris in its frosty grip; rocks as big as trucks are thus broken off and dragged along countless kilometers. The waste flows to the river valleys, eroding away their V-shaped beds into U-shapes, and where these valleys covered with ice lie close to the sea, it cuts out deep fjords.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:30 pm

Almost no geologist is able to explain logically why there was so much ice in Europe and America. All sorts of guesses have been circulated. Astronomers presume that the orbit of the Earth could have been responsible for this mass of ice. The possible explanation would be that it might have been located a bit further from the Sun, in a somewhat slanting position. But others were able to prove that the difference in Sun radiation would not have been big enough. Innumerable theories were sent into the World but came back empty-handed due to the lack of evidence. The only thing they are sure of is that there is a relation between the Precession (of the Zodiac) and the existence of the Ice Ages. Aside from that, alot of it for them is guesswork. But now, because of the Ancient's warnings, we can put an end to all the doubts.

Because of the Ancient's writings, we now know what happened in Aha-Men-Ptah (Atlantis), the perished paradise. In 21,312 BC the axis of the Earth slid; in 9792 BC, the Earth started to rotate in the opposite direction, and the Earth crust shifted thousands of kilometers. Each catastrophe changed the position of the poles.

With that, in one go, all conditions are met to explain the alteration of Ice Ages and moderate climates. First of all, there must have been increased precipitation otherwise ice masses cannot develop. So where did the water come from? The explanation is simple. The shifted ice masses from the poles start to melt and evaporate into the atmosphere. This increased evaporation increases the amount of rainfall over the whole Earth. Where the new poles are now located, water drops in the form of snow and ice, which rapidly bank up to huge heights. Billions of tons of ice now lay on top of the dead cities and portions of Atlantis.

Within just a few years from now, during our time, snow and ice will dominate over an enormous part of the European and North American landscape. This is inevitable.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:47 pm

The Pole-Shift gives the answers to questions like why did glaciers cover most of Europe in antiquity, while northeastern Siberia, which is now located above the Polar Circle, remained free of ice? The answer of many of the traditional scientists is: "Uh we don't know...No idea.." A satisfying answer is yet to be forwarded by these groups. But that does not mean that you cannot have the real answer right now because it's all explained by the Pole-Shift.

Through the shift of the Earth's crust, Siberia changed its latitudinal location all at once and it was destined to become the coldest place in the World - changing from moderate to an ice-cold climate, all in one day. And there is massive proof at hand.

Before the shift of the Earth's crust, a lot of the World's now extinct animals were living in this area, such as mammoths, which fed on plants. At a time simultaneous with the end of the last Ice Age, these mastodons became extinct. In northeastern Siberia great numbers of mammoth skeletons were found, and many of them were well preserved frozen corpses. This finding stunned the World! To date more than fifty perfectly preserved corpses have been exhumed, some of which still had undigested pieces of food in their stomachs. The bodies were so well preserved that dogs could eat the meat without negative consequences. According to eyewitnesses, the flesh looked like frozen cow meat. Their end must have arrived all of the sudden; there is no doubt about that.

Analyses showed that they choked to death, probably from drowning. If they had not frozen immediately, they would have rotted, the flesh disintegrating. Only a catastrophe such as a Pole-Shift can provide sufficient explanation for this riddle. In such an extreme cold, mammoths could not possibly have survived. They were killed in one go, without warning; with food still in their mouths and stomachs, they were carried away thousands of kilometers and afterwards covered with ice.

2112 · Post by **2112** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:04 pm

(synopsis)

"Genesis 8:20-22 Noah was now gone out into a desolate world, where, one might have thought, his first care would have been to build a house for himself, but he begins with an alter for God. He begins well, that begins with God. Though Noah's stock of cattle was small, and that saved at great care and pains, yet he did not grudge to serve God out of it. Serving God with our little is the way to make it more; we must never think that is wasted with which God is honoured. The first thing done in the new world was an act of worship. We are now to express our thankfulness, not by burnt-offerings, but by praise, and pious devotions and conversation. God was well pleased with what was done. But the burning flesh could no more please God, than the blood of bulls and goats, except as typical of the sacrifice of Christ, and expressing Noah's humble faith and devotedness to God. The flood washed away the race of wicked men, but it did not remove sin from man's nature, who being conceived and born in sin, thinks, devises, and loves wickedness, even from his youth, and that as much since the flood as before. But God graciously declared he never would drown the world again. While the earth remains, and man upon it, there shall be summer and winter. It is plain that this earth is not to remain always. It, and all the works in it, must shortly be burned up; and we look for new heavens and a new earth, when all these things shall be dissolved. But as long as it does remain, God's providence will cause the course of times and seasons to go on, and makes each to know its place. And on this word we depend, that thus it shall be. We see God's promises to the creatures made good, and may infer that his promises to all believers shall be so."

The Bible says the seasons will remain until the end.

But in order to have an 'end', we first need the 7 year Tribulation period described by Daniel and Revelation in the Bible.

So, unless the Tribulation has already started, 2012 will Not be the end of this world.

But here's a little food for thought...

Remember Rush's album 2112 ?

End of Mayan Calendar = December 21st, 2012

Some people are already scared of this date.

However, knowing that the Devil sometimes injects a pinch of truth in with His lies...

I suspect 2112 may be nearer to the end of this world as we know it.

If the world continues it's exponential growth of evil from the present day on... then the year 2112 looks more and more like the 'Revelation' style scenarios we are all expecting.

No Angel, demon, man, or even Jesus knows the 'exact' hour and date of the end, (only The Father)

But 2112 is an interesting year none the less.

Could our so called 'modern' calendar be off by 100 years compared to the Mayan?

Or were all these predictions meant for the year 2112 in the first place?

Perhaps the year 2012 will be a 'birthpain, birthday' marking the last 100 year countdown on earth, but we will still be here. The seasons continue...

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TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:05 pm

2112;655505 wrote: (synopsis)

"Genesis 8:20-22 Noah was now gone out into a desolate world, where, one might have thought, his first care would have been to build a house for himself, but he begins with an alter for God. He begins well, that begins with God. Though Noah's stock of cattle was small, and that saved at great care and pains, yet he did not grudge to serve God out of it. Serving God with our little is the way to make it more; we must never think that is wasted with which God is honoured. The first thing done in the new world was an act of worship. We are now to express our thankfulness, not by burnt-offerings, but by praise, and pious devotions and conversation. God was well pleased with what was done. But the burning flesh could no more please God, than the blood of bulls and goats, except as typical of the sacrifice of Christ, and expressing Noah's humble faith and devotedness to God. The flood washed away the race of wicked men, but it did not remove sin from man's nature, who being conceived and born in sin, thinks, devises, and loves wickedness, even from his youth, and that as much since the flood as before. But God graciously declared he never would drown the world again. While the earth remains, and man upon it, there shall be summer and winter. It is plain that this earth is not to remain always. It, and all the works in it, must shortly be burned up; and we look for new heavens and a new earth, when all these things shall be dissolved. But as long as it does remain, God's providence will cause the course of times and seasons to go on, and makes each to know its place. And on this word we depend, that thus it shall be. We see God's promises to the creatures made good, and may infer that his promises to all believers shall be so."

The Bible says the seasons will remain until the end.

But in order to have an 'end', we first need the 7 year Tribulation period described by Daniel and Revelation in the Bible.

So, unless the Tribulation has already started, 2012 will Not be the end of this world.

But here's a little food for thought...

Remember Rush's album 2112 ?

End of Mayan Calendar = December 21st, 2012

Some people are already scared of this date.

However, knowing that the Devil sometimes injects a pinch of truth in with His lies...

I suspect 2112 may be nearer to the end of this world as we know it.

If the world continues it's exponential growth of evil from the present day on... then the year 2112 looks more and more like the 'Revelation' style scenarios we are all expecting.

No Angel, demon, man, or even Jesus knows the 'exact' hour and date of the end, (only The Father)

But 2112 is an interesting year none the less.

Could our so called 'modern' calendar be off by 100 years compared to the Mayan?

Or were all these predictions meant for the year 2112 in the first place?

Perhaps the year 2012 will be a 'birthpain, birthday' marking the last 100 year countdown on earth, but we will still be here. The seasons continue...

My friend, no one is talking about the "end of the entire World" here.

Unfortunately, the Bible does not contain the word "Pole-Shift". In fact, there are many words that cannot be found in the Bible.

However, science has proven that Pole-Shifts have happened in the past, and the Ancients foretold of the one we have coming very soon.

Not just the ancients mind you. Many others including modern day seers as well.

Either way, if they have happened in the past, they can happen again. And one is right around the corner.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:17 pm

Immanuel Velikovsky, the psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, explained how the now-extinct mammoths froze on the spot, around 10,000 years ago, in Siberia, with buttercups clenched between their teeth. What freezing phenomenon could have taken place to cause such a sudden change in grazing habitat from a temperate pastoral climate to that of a frozen wilderness - instantly?

How could coal deposits have been formed in Antarctica, where the climate is far too cold to sustain woodland? How could fossilised palm trees have once grown in the icy climate of Spitzbergen? Common sense told Velikovsky that the Earth, at some time in the past, must have tilted on its axis.

Areas on the warmer equator repositioned themselves as the poles and the geographic poles likewise became repositioned at the equator. It made sense to Velikovsky. But, like the physician, modern "orthodox" science and common sense always seem to be at odds with each other. They preferred instead to imagine that Velikovsky was simply mad, and they, in the way that "orthodox" science does to those whose ideas differ from those of the day, set out to destroy him and everything he worked for.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:26 pm

Giant beavers almost three meters long, sloths which used to feed on trees while resting on their colossal thick tails and weighing in at more than three tons while standing more than six meters high when prancing on their rear legs; they all died during these inexorable events.

R. Dale Guthrie of the Institute of Arctic Biology ("Big Disasters," Readers Digest) discovered that around 12,000 years ago the fauna and flora of Alaska were completely different from today. In his own words he stated that, "The way these animals died must have been disastrous. The animals lived in a totally different environment. Only in this way can you define the exotic hotchpotch of hyenas, mammoths, sabre-toothed tigers, camels, rhinoceroses, deer with huge antlers, and saiga antelopes. Then it became ice-cold and they suffered massive extinction."

More than a hundred years ago the well-known zoologist Alfred Wallace (Big Disasters) wrote: "From a zoological point of view, we are living in an impoverished World in which the utmost colossal, wild and peculiar sorts of animals have recently disappeared."

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:39 pm

Professor Hapgood (The Path of the Pole, 1970) wrote the following about the events of almost 12,000 years ago: "Everywhere in Alaska there is proof of an unprecedented severe atmospheric turmoil. Although some of the animals weighing a couple of tons, they were simply torn apart and spread like straws on the land. The piles of bones are mixed with trees, which were also jumbled and torn apart. The whole is covered with a fine layer of frozen dust."

As for those enormous animals, we note that North America and Europe were inhabited by great game animals fully as varied and even more impressive than those of modern East Africa. A partial list includes elephants, two of the four species of which exceeded modern elephants in size. The tall imperial mammoth of the Great Plains stood 14 feet high at the shoulders. Throughout the forest, mastodons browsed in great herds. Horses abounded, one as large as a modern draught horse. There were seven species of buffalo, and one was an enormous beast with a horn spread of 14 feet. The musk ox, woolly rhinoceros, great ground sloth, bear, wild pig, camel, and giant beaver also abounded.

When you read this, you immediately know that fierce powers have created this massive grave during these events. Tens of millions of animals and people suffered an instantaneous death, caused by floods, earthquakes, huge storms and an instantaneous setting-in of a glacial period. The whole Earth was staggering. In the New World more than seventy big mammal species were lost. And it was all at once! To put this in the right perspective: during the preceding 300,000 years, not more than 20 types had become extinct.

Singh-Song · Post by **Singh-Song** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:09 pm

Excuse me, but why is this post even in the Warfare and Military section? This, 'hodge podge', trying to link every obscurity under the sun, should be on the Conspiracy Theories forum, and you know it. There are so many elements of your hypothesis which are groundless- Coal doesn't form in under 12,000 years, and the seams of Antarctic oil and coal are in a layer of rock more than seventy million years old. Let me explain it to you in a way that you, or any other kid at high school would understand. There's a phenomenon called, 'continental drift'. The continental plates are constantly moving towards or away from each other, creating earthquake or volcano zones, and driving up mountain ranges. The sudden cooling period we only recovered from barely 12,000 years ago was a result of the North and South American plates closing together at the Isthmus of Panama, disrupting the circum-equatorial flow in the World's oceans, and cooling world temperatures somewhere in the order of two degrees Celsius. Virtually all of the animals you describe evolved AFTER the cooling event- Why do you think the Mammoth, Wooly Rhino and Mastodon all had woolly coats? The size to surface-area ratio only makes it advantageous to be larger in colder climates- Why do you think so many animals, The Cave Bear, The Giant Beaver, The Musk Ox, all grew in size during the period? The Earth THAWED OUT twelve thousand years ago, it didn't freeze. The incident you refer to in Alaska was from a well-known regionalised meteor strike. The kind of truth you peddle in reads like a gospel from the Church of Scientology, 'Truth'bringer...

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:23 pm

Singh-Song;656528 wrote: Excuse me, but why is this post even in the Warfare and Military section? This, 'hodge podge', trying to link every obscurity under the sun, should be on the Conspiracy Theories forum, and you know it. There are so many elements of your hypothesis which are groundless- Coal doesn't form in under 12,000 years, and the seams of Antarctic oil and coal are in a layer of rock more than seventy million years old. Let me explain it to you in a way that you, or any other kid at high school would understand. There's a phenomenon called, 'continental drift'. The continental plates are constantly moving towards or away from each other, creating earthquake or volcano zones, and driving up mountain ranges. The sudden cooling period we only recovered from barely 12,000 years ago was a result of the North and South American plates closing together at the Isthmus of Panama, disrupting the circum-equatorial flow in the World's oceans, and cooling world temperatures somewhere in the order of two degrees Celsius. Virtually all of the animals you describe evolved AFTER the cooling event- Why do you think the Mammoth, Wooly Rhino and Mastodon all had woolly coats? The size to surface-area ratio only makes it advantageous to be larger in colder climates- Why do you think so many animals, The Cave Bear, The Giant Beaver, The Musk Ox, all grew in size during the period? The Earth THAWED OUT twelve thousand years ago, it didn't freeze. The incident you refer to in Alaska was from a well-known regionalised meteor strike. The kind of truth you peddle in reads like a gospel from the Church of Scientology, 'Truth'bringer...

If you think what you said was cool, please remember that it's only your opinion. And that nobody thinks exactly like you do. This thread has alot to do with everything. It starts out with WW3, which is not only both on the horizon for us, but which has everything to do with warfare.

You seem a little angry my friend. Perhaps some therapy would help? By the way, I've been out of highschool for awhile now. About 5-6 years. So....think again?

But anyways, I appreciate your input, I don't know how much good it did, but I can tell you one thing, everything about the Musk Ox (As well as all the other animals I posted about) came from scientists and people that know what they are talking about. lol.

Now..you might take that offensively. And I understand. But I have one question for you...are you a scientist? And if you are, then by all means I apolagize. Perhaps you would like to take the late, great, Professor Hapgood on in a debate? Or better yet...how about Immanuel Velikovsky? I am sure both of them would have loved to sit down with you and debate the subject. All of their years of studying in the field vs your time you spent watching the discovery channel?

What do you say brother? It's your call. I'm just posting in my thread. What's your story?

Peace.....=)

Singh-Song · Post by **Singh-Song** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:24 am

It's not about 'sounding cool', it's about logic. Common sense. Yes, everything you said about each species itself was true, but think about it, If this 'flash-freeze' event you talk about really did happen- Why did all of the species BEST ADAPTED for cold conditions die out? If the poles did swap over, the earth would be unprotected by its magnetic field during the time period, leading to more UV getting through, and thereby causing a global warming, not a global cooling effect- but that still doesn't explain why so many 'naked', hairless species, like the remaining species of Elephants and Rhinoceroses, Bats and Humans, survived when they had the least natural protection from UV rays in the animal kingdom. I would like to take on both Prof.Hapgood, and Immanuel Venikovsky, because I know full well that neither of them have a chance against the evidence we now have today. I can cite virtually every current scientist in the field- you can only cite two late theoritians who had to work with antiquated, obselete evidence, and a doomsday scenarios forwarded by a few, publicity obsessed modern 'psychics'. As you said, 'lol'. L.O.L...

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:27 pm

The same pattern of signs of the last Pole-Shift are repeated throughout the World. Alaska and Siberia were hit the hardest. Hundreds of thousands of animals froze to death on site and were preserved, so that after more than 10,000 years they could still feed huskies. These quantities only headline the first of apocalyptic numbers that suffered annihilation during the last Pole-Shift.

Thousands of volcanoes must have exploded, because volcanic ash is frequently discovered around the frozen animals. Skeletons of mastodons found standing up were discovered in the San Pedro Valley, supported by huge piles of volcanic ash. Most of Europe and the land that became known as the "New World", was covered with an ice cap several kilometers thick.

When the Earth's crust slid, it landed on a moderate zone. Then the big melting started. Ten million cubic kilometers of ice were reduced to water. It streamed into the seas and oceans and made the water level rise more than 160 meters. Low coastlines were flooded again. Millions of liters of water evaporated and fell as snow at the poles. As a result the water level sank back. In northern Florida one finds marine sediments up to a height of at least seventy-five meters. Areas that are now barren, like the Sahara, were at that time full of life and green with vegetation due to the abundant rainfall.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:35 pm

These pole reversals can be proven with the help of pyrogenic rock. Geological data show that reversals have taken place countless times in the past. Many scientists still do not have the slightest idea about the mechanism that causes them. It is a riddle for them why the previous poles can be found in several places - for instance, a long time ago the central point of the North Pole was in China and, at one point, in Madagascar. Solidified lava manifesting a reversed magnetism, hundreds of thousands of times stronger than the magnetic field of the Earth, proves this. It also reveals the character of the powers that were active at that time, as extensive lava streams are to be found wherever reversed polarities can be detected.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:53 pm

It is evident in ancient maps that you can admire in several libraries around the World that the ancients dealt with an excellent time chronology. The Mercator map from 1569 gives an accurate picture of how the coasts of Antarctica must have looked without ice. Mercator must have based this map on much older documents, made before the previous Pole-Shift! This actually means that the inherited knowledge must be at least 12,000 years old. Without an exact time chronology and a fairly accurate clock, you cannot make such a map. The required technique is based on having knowledge of the meridians.

Either way, the Mercator map gives an impressive look at what Antarctica looked like before the last Pole-Shift engulfed the World.

During the last Pole-Shift there was a time of sudden imposition of a different density structure in the outer shell of the northern hemisphere due to the large masses of ice that had built up on the continents, the large masses of water that had been removed from the ocean basins to build those ice sheets, and the mass of a subcontinental fragment that sank into the area of the ocean at that time. The mechanism for a Pole-Shift from such conditions is similar to an explanation of how the Earth's axis of rotation can be shifted by the sinking of cold, dense slabs of mantle in subduction zones such as those surrounding the Pacific Ocean.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:12 pm

As geoscientists probe ever more deeply into the "record in the rocks", their findings will oftentimes coincide with many Pole-Shift explanations. For example, a recent study of the conentrations of calcium and sulfate ions in the annual ice layers cored from the Greenland ice sheet provides an extensive record of explosive, high-sulfur producing volcanism that shows a strong correlation with disturbances and eruptive events within the last 50,000 years.

The sulfate-ion value in the GISP2 ice-core record is one of the largest of the 838 volcanic signals in the entire ice-layer sample series. And this signal, representing enormous volcanism somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere, is followed by around 1,000 years of calcium-ion peaks that are a primary indicator of continental dust.

In addition, a volcanic ash layer found in a different (GRIP) ice core from Greenland and believed to have originated from an area of explosive volcanism in southern Iceland, is thought to be created at a time that coincides with one of the previous two Pole-Shifts as well.

The GISP2 ice-core record is intriguing. It provides evidence of a period of significant volcanism that occurred somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere at the same time that a second period of disturbances were underway. The disturbances were so strong that "small channels" were produced through many of the lands.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:51 pm

Perhaps most significant of all the ice-core records of volcanism is the finding of a discrete and pronounced record of well-above-baseline peaks in volcanic signals for the period between 12,657 and 11,285 B.P. This broad and strong peak in sulfate concentrations describes a significant period of explosive eruptions that matches almost exactly with the final period of the existence of Atlantis. The ash layer found in the Greenland GRIP ice core, corresponds to a great eruption that deposited an Ash Zone, a significant marker horizon in North Atlantic sediments. A fitting epitaph for the end of Atlantis!

Many current scientists feel that they have no time to waste on such problematic research. They think that they've got explanations for everything they see on the ocean floor right now, as explained by their theory of sea-floor spreading. That's not completely correct, as evidenced by a review published in Nature (April 11, 1996, P. 480) on "anomalous" findings in the Romanche fracture zone near the Mid-Atlantic Ridge in the equatorial Atlantic. Here, sediments 140 million years old lie in part of the Atlantic Ocean where the crust is only a fraction of that age. That's not supposed to happen, according to the theory of sea-floor spreading, because such sediments are supposed to have been conveyed to the edges of the ocean basin by now, as new oceanic lithosphere is continuously formed at the mid-ocean ridge and pushed toward the continents on either side.

And so how are many geoscientists explaining this one? They are questioning their assumption as to the stability of the transverse ridge where the sediments were found, and they are proposing instead that the transform faults that would normally convey-away the ridge sediments must have somehow "jumped" around, entrapping the old sediments near the ridge crest. The review article states flatly that "this discovery cannot be explained by conventional plate tectonics", and goes on to say that "the exitence of transverse ridges has long puzzled Earth scientists." Their morphology is complex and resists generalization. Rocks retrieved from these ridges vary from upper mantle to shallow-water carbonates, and this variability is taken as an indication of the intense vertical tectonism that can occur.