Dog meat is off the menu at Beijing olympics

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:22 am

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008- ... 528919.htm

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:22 am

Damn!. And I was so looking forward to watching the games while munching fidoburgers. I ain't going now.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:35 am

I don't get why they took it off the menu. Nobody would be forced to order it.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:39 am

Isn't it a delicacy over there?

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:39 am

qsducks;915940 wrote: Isn't it a delicacy over there?

To be technically precise, it's a delicacy anywhere.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:43 am

spot;915941 wrote: To be technically precise, it's a delicacy anywhere.

I'll eat a hotdog on a bun but I ain't eating a household pet. Yuck.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:44 am

People keep pigs as pets, but that ain't putting me off bacon.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:47 am

Accountable;915945 wrote: People keep pigs as pets, but that ain't putting me off bacon.

Or scrapple:wah:

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:57 am

qsducks;915943 wrote:

I'll eat a hotdog on a bun but I ain't eating a household pet. Yuck.

None of the dogs sold in Chinese food outlets have ever been pets, where do you get that notion?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:05 am

spot;915958 wrote: None of the dogs sold in Chinese food outlets have ever been pets, where do you get that notion?

Do they randomly take dogs off the street or do they breed them for eating?

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:08 am

Bred for the table, just like your ordinary Texas Longhorn. Saint Bernards command a premium in the restaurants, apparently, they taste so good.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:11 am

spot;915969 wrote: Bred for the table, just like your ordinary Texas Longhorn. Saint Bernards command a premium in the restaurants, apparently, they taste so good.

And I can see why. Lot of meat off that big dog.:wah:

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:12 am

I tried to find objective information about it, but of course the filters make anything not condemning the practice hard to find.

Victoria · Post by **Victoria** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:44 am

After seeing video of a man tie a German shepard to a fence and then start to skin it from the tail up while the animal clearly went into shock.

I find all jokes about this subject misplaced to say the least

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:53 am

Victoria;916081 wrote: After seeing video of a man tie a German shepard to a fence and then start to skin it from the tail up while the animal clearly went into shock.

I find all jokes about this subject misplaced to say the least
You're not saying that's the traditional way of butchering a dog, are you??

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:32 am

Victoria;916081 wrote: After seeing video of a man tie a German shepard to a fence and then start to skin it from the tail up while the animal clearly went into shock.

I find all jokes about this subject misplaced to say the least

I've not seen any jokes so far. Whoever did that to a German Shepherd should have been prosecuted but it has nothing to do with Beijing's restaurant trade.

What infuriates me is people setting different standards for pets than they tolerate with animals destined for consumption.

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:44 am

Different cultures find the killing and eating of different animals horrible. Cows are held in high regard in India, pork is not eaten my Muslims, dogs are seen as pets in the Western culture.

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:48 am

Sheryl;916160 wrote: Different cultures find the killing and eating of different animals horrible. Cows are held in high regard in India, pork is not eaten my Muslims, dogs are seen as pets in the Western culture.

I think because we keep Dogs purely as pets we cant stand the thought of another country eating them but they dont eat pets, they breed them as food, same as we breed cows, pigs,sheep etc....

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:03 am

Some things one culture would call a good meal we'd call for a good exterminator.

What we pay top dollar in a flower shop might be considered weeds somewhere else.

Gotta love it! :wah:

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:13 am

Why take Dog off their menu ?

I heard on the news China will take Dog meat off their menu so they don't insult others (US). ? Will Dog still be on the hot plate for locals - or do they have to go without?

Several here on FG feel - If your French, speak French, be who you are & proud.

okey dokey

Patsy

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:20 am

I'll be miffed if we take bacon and sausage and black pudding off all-day breakfasts during the 2012 London Olympics just because the Israeli team's supporters might be offended. The Chinese may be being polite to visitors but it had better not set a precedent.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:24 am

If anything they should be adding to menus and other entertainment to make visitors feel at home. I look forward to seeing pole dancing at a future Saudi Arabian Olympics.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:50 am

qsducks;915965 wrote: Do they randomly take dogs off the street or do they breed them for eating?

Debatable.

They are held in terrible confines and not killed kindly.

I'll save you the more upsetting pictures. Here is some info from The Animals Voice with pictures but do not look at them if you are sensitive as they show dogs being butchered and eaten.

http://www.animalsvoice.com/sites/atour ... china.html

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Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:04 am

RedGlitter;916270 wrote: They are held in terrible confines and not killed kindly.

I'll save you the more upsetting pictures. Here is some info from The Animals Voice with pictures but do not look at them if you are sensitive as they show dogs being butchered and eaten.

And how does that compare with the butchering of other breeds of animal destined for consumption like sheep or goats or cows or pigs or geese or farmed salmon or chickens? Are you suggesting those conditions, or that treatment, is out of the ordinary by comparison?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:16 am

RedGlitter;916270 wrote: Debatable.

They are held in terrible confines and not killed kindly.

I'll save you the more upsetting pictures. Here is some info from The Animals Voice with pictures but do not look at them if you are sensitive as they show dogs being butchered and eaten.

http://www.animalsvoice.com/sites/atour ... china.html

I think I would barf. They do the same with calves and goose here. You know, veal & that disgusting thing they serve in FRench restaurants, Goose Pate.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:20 am

qsducks;916310 wrote: I think I would barf. They do the same with calves and goose here. You know, veal & that disgusting thing they serve in FRench restaurants, Goose Pate.

I'm not sure that what they're doing there in China is remotely as vile as what's done to veal calves or pate de foie geese and throwing in "French" there is gratuitous nationalistic flag-waving, I'm sure veal and pate de foie are still produced and eaten in the US.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:25 am

spot;916313 wrote: I'm not sure that what they're doing there in China is remotely as vile as what's done to veal calves or pate de foie geese and throwing in "French" there is gratuitous nationalistic flag-waving, I'm sure veal and pate de foie are still produced and eaten in the US.

Actually, they are trying to outlaw fois gras in Philadelphia restaurants because of the gross nature of killing the geese.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:29 am

qsducks;916320 wrote: Actually, they are trying to outlaw fois gras in Philadelphia restaurants because of the gross nature of killing the geese.

And they reversed the city ban in New York a few months ago because too many people were pining for a taste of luxury. It amazes me that the fate of these dogs should be interesting anyone in the West, given the complete lack of even wanting to progress against the many abuses of farm animals in our own countries. How can people turn a blind eye locally and then cry about these food items on another continent?

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:32 am

qsducks;916320 wrote: Actually, they are trying to outlaw fois gras in Philadelphia restaurants because of the gross nature of killing the geese.

Yeah that stuff is terribly cruel and nasty. I've never eaten it and survived so I know others can too.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:33 am

RedGlitter;916336 wrote: Yeah that stuff is terribly cruel and nasty. I've never eaten it and survived so I know others can too.

Do do it to ducks too:mad:

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:47 am

qsducks;916338 wrote: Do do it to ducks too:mad:

Yep. And they just passed a ban in Takoma, Maryland to ban the sale of foi gras. Meanwhile, stupid Chicago lifted their ban.

GourmetCruelty.com

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:50 am

RedGlitter;916364 wrote: Yep. And they just passed a ban in Takoma, Maryland to ban the sale of foi gras. Meanwhile, stupid Chicago lifted their ban.

GourmetCruelty.com

It just sounds so gross to eat. I mean I don't even eat cow liver, why on earth would I eat another animals liver. Really, would you feast on your fellow man's liver?

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:52 am

People here eat chicken?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:53 am

spot;916372 wrote: People here eat chicken?

Everybody eats chicken. Never had Chicken Parmesan?:wah:

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:54 am

qsducks;916375 wrote: Everybody eats chicken. Never had Chicken Parmesan?:wah:

So which has the better quality of life, a Chinese chicken or a Western one?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:57 am

RedGlitter;916270 wrote: Debatable.

They are held in terrible confines and not killed kindly.

I'll save you the more upsetting pictures. Here is some info from The Animals Voice with pictures but do not look at them if you are sensitive as they show dogs being butchered and eaten.

http://www.animalsvoice.com/sites/atour ... china.html
Looks like standard butchering to me. If you can't stand to look at those pics then I suggest not taking up hunting. Oh, and that's not much different than slaughtering animals on the farm, either.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:57 am

spot;916379 wrote: So which has the better quality of life, a Chinese chicken or a Western one?

Are you a veg head?:wah:

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:59 am

qsducks;916385 wrote: Are you a veg head?:wah:

What infuriates me is people setting different standards for pets than they tolerate with animals destined for consumption. I thought I'd said.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:01 pm

spot;916390 wrote: What infuriates me is people setting different standards for pets than they tolerate with animals destined for consumption. I thought I'd said.

I do love a good Filet Mignon and oh and a lobster too.:-4

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:18 pm

"Why do we call some animals "pets" and others "dinner"?"

k.d. lang, noted vegetarian/vagitarian

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:20 pm

Richard Bell;916408 wrote: "Why do we call some animals "pets" and others "dinner"?"

k.d. lang, noted vegetarian/vagitarian

I don't know of anyone who keeps a cow in their house. As for anything in the ocean, that's different. They are there for us to eat.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:34 pm

qsducks;916410 wrote: I don't know of anyone who keeps a cow in their house. As for anything in the ocean, that's different. They are there for us to eat.
So are pigs.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:36 pm

Accountable;916445 wrote: So are pigs.

Oh I do have them in my house, but they look incredibly like children and I don't eat them.:wah:

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:40 pm

qsducks;916450 wrote: Oh I do have them in my house, but they look incredibly like children and I don't eat them.:wah:

yanno Ducks your brilliant:D

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:41 pm

Chezzie;916455 wrote: yanno Ducks your brilliant:D

LMAO:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:44 pm

qsducks;916410 wrote: I don't know of anyone who keeps a cow in their house. As for anything in the ocean, that's different. They are there for us to eat.

I think you're missing her point.

As for the fish, we've decimated their numbers over the last few decades through overfishing and habitat destruction.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:46 pm

I've seen many Pot-Bellied Vietnamese and they're invariably pets, not dinner. Gloucester Old Spots, on the other hand, don't fit in the average retiring room at all, they're immense.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:46 pm

Richard Bell;916461 wrote: I think you're missing her point.

As for the fish, we've decimated their numbers over the last few decades through overfishing and habitat destruction.

Oh, let's not get so depressing. won't stop me from going on a crabbing trip with the kids.

Post by **spot** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:49 pm

The last time I caught crabs was fifteen years ago on holiday in Torremolinos.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:51 pm

spot;916465 wrote: The last time I caught crabs was fifteen years ago on holiday in Torremolinos.

Did you eat them?