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anastrophe wrote: so long as we're cognizant of the risks, and we aren't putting others in harms way, then it's really nobody else's business what we do.



but i ramble.


And this is the point we're trying to make here. Very well said anastrophe. What we, as individuals, choose to do in & with our lives, as long as we don't bother, injure, or intrude on others, should be our own business. Gay marriages are not a bother, injury, or intrusion to anybody. It's what 2 consenting adults choose to do.

anastrophe wrote: it is indeed your right not to like or agree with them. it is not your right, or anyone else's right, to tell consenting adults who are not harming you or other innocent persons, how they should live their lives - unless you're prepared to have others do the same to you.



motorcycles are incredibly dangerous. they're not called donor-cycles by accident. innocent people get hurt all the time in motorcycle accidents. we'd better ban them.
And where, my dear Paul, did I imply that consenting adults should NOT do what they choose to do? I simply stated that I am opposed to it. I would never tell a gay couple what they should or should not do, and I know many. One who happens to be VERY close to home. Him, I'd like to strangle. But that's another story.

Pinky wrote: Like I said, I AGREE!!!!!:rolleyes:

I just think bikes was a spurious example!


I figured you did. I was just making a point to the others.

BabyRider wrote: And where, my dear Paul, did I imply that consenting adults should NOT do what they choose to do? I simply stated that I am opposed to it. I would never tell a gay couple what they should or should not do, and I know many. One who happens to be VERY close to home. Him, I'd like to strangle. But that's another story.


you had stated that homosexuality is not "acceptable" - that can be read two ways i guess - 'not acceptable to you', and 'not acceptable period'. often when someone says XYZ is not acceptable, it means they would prefer steps be taken to actively prevent XYZ from taking place. however, there's also passive opposition which would describe what you said above.

since i enjoy stating the obvious, i'll point out that i'm somewhat notorious for parsing wording to the nth degree. in casual conversations, that can annoy the hell out of people, and for that i apologize.

Pinky wrote: In answer to Obs, yes, that is a fair point, I agree.

I have agreed with that viewpoint all along!

So why oh why are motorcycle riders now coming into the equation to take some flack when everyone agrees that it's unfair to generalise and assume?
I rather think that was anastrophe's point. He's not picking on motorcycle riders. He pulled an example out of the air. I didn't get that he was saying that motorcycle riding should be banned; just the opposite. He was engaging in hyperbole.

I was just putting my point of view across that to say motorbikes aren't safe is a load of wallocks...it'd be like saying walking on the pavement isn't safe in case an idiot car driver isn't paying attention and mounts the kerb.

Should we all stay indoors for the rest of our lives?
Again, you make the point. What I got from anastrophe's postings was, as he said, that there is no 100% safe activity. There is danger in everything, from getting out of bed (known to cause heart attacks) to going to the bathroom (don't get me started on those deathtraps) to putting on your shoes. Simply because those actions carry inherent risks is not sufficient reason to ban them, particularly when doing such things causes no harm to anyone else.

You're agreeing with him, whether you realize it or not

Pinky wrote: I'm naturally assuming that Anastrophe hasn't ridden a bike. He might have for all I know!




i've been a passenger on a motorcycle a couple/maybe three times. in addition to being scared out of my wits, i was also completely thrilled with it. i've always wanted to actually 'drive' a motorcycle (it's interesting how whether you're at the throttle or just hanging on behind someone, you're a 'rider').



i'll never, ever own a motorcycle, or be the actual person on the throttle. because i know within one week i'd be an organ donor. when it comes to speed, and acceleration, i have almost no self-control. if the highest number on the speedometer was 170mph, that's how fast i'd try to go.

anastrophe wrote: i've been a passenger on a motorcycle a couple/maybe three times. in addition to being scared out of my wits, i was also completely thrilled with it. i've always wanted to actually 'drive' a motorcycle (it's interesting how whether you're at the throttle or just hanging on behind someone, you're a 'rider').



i'll never, ever own a motorcycle, or be the actual person on the throttle. because i know within one week i'd be an organ donor. when it comes to speed, and acceleration, i have almost no self-control. if the highest number on the speedometer was 170mph, that's how fast i'd try to go.
Yeah, uh....Paul? Do us all a favor and stick to that determination NOT to get a motorcycle. Thanks ever so....

Pinky wrote: Whoa! Best you don't then!:eek:

No, people on the back are only pillions IMO!


I need :yh_glasse i thought that said pillocks

SnoozeControl wrote: Oh Paul, you never need to apologize! It's an honor to read your posts, you're so erudite and eloquent. Too bad you're married, you're soooo dreamy. :yh_battin


methinks snoozer is cruising for a bruising - hand bags at dawn :wah:

SnoozeControl wrote: Oh Pants, you don't need glasses! You're perfect just the way you are.:-4


is that a propsal

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a thread get so thoroughly hijacked

Erinna1112 wrote: Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a thread get so thoroughly hijacked
We do tend to wander a bit at times, don't we? It's part of what makes this place so fun, and interesting.

BabyRider wrote: We do tend to wander a bit at times, don't we? It's part of what makes this place so fun, and interesting.


Lost? We are so far off track no one will be able to find us with out a GPS. Maybe I should go ahead and retitle this thread Gay Marrages and Motorcycles.:yh_rotfl

Marie5656 wrote: Lost? We are so far off track no one will be able to find us with out a GPS. Maybe I should go ahead and retitle this thread Gay Marrages and Motorcycles.:yh_rotfl


That was gooood Marie!!! :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

observer1 wrote: That was gooood Marie!!! :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl


I second that!:D

observer1 wrote: That was gooood Marie!!! :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl


In the words of Elvis..Thank you, thank you very much.

SnoozeControl wrote: And at the risk of wandering even further off topic, I really like your avatar.


So very patriotic. Well, since we all were replacing our lemons, had to find something new.