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glad to see you clancy.......hug hug...... btw-where have you been lately?:-2

Lulu2;541707 wrote: Minx, if you don't agree...that's just fine! You didn't jump in and bomb me with negative words because we're adults! Disagreement is healthy when it's respectful and impersonal. As far as I know, disagreement is still allowed here, right?


Yes Lulu

Hey that brings me to a point

Deal or no Deal

anyone seen that show....

its funny let me explain it briefly there are a number of suitcases presented to a contestant he pics one and sets it aside. In them is dollar values ranging from 1 to 1 million, he then has to open 6 cases with the hopes none have a million in them and when each is opened it is shown on a board to what is opened and what is left. As he goes along a banker guy offers him an enticing amount of money to walk away and he the contestant has to determine his risk he is willing to take.... yada yada... OK so that is the show.

During this show he is allowed 3 people to join him on stage, friends or family. As well there is an audience.

My point is as things heat up for our contestant he receives support and opposition to his decisions, each one aids in determining the risk he will or will not take....

FG is the same, the more you are supported the more you are going to either support someone or something, or go against it.

this is human nature... and LULU you may be right it looks like we are standing here screaming "It is about me" when really we are on this wild rush to be heard cause we are so driven....

So this can lead to attacks and misconceptions... if so

where would the harm be in throwing it into a space of isolation? I know i am harping....

But it kind of isolates infection.

DesignerGal;541710 wrote: DO you honestly think I am going to sit here while koan and spot pick a fight with her? The only reason I came back here was so she wouldnt get get double-teamed. Sorry, Lulu is my friend and that is exactly why I did it.


and koan has defended her friend.

DG it's fine to defend a friend.

Clancy;541714 wrote: Good Lord, Spot , you do spout some unwarrantably pious claptrap when you get started. Your the same, Spot who changed his name to anastrophe to gain access into MadChatters , and called it a merrie jape, so we went along with that, but, It was the same, Spot who made sure everything that was said in private, was made public....yet, you shy away from declaring you speak of others yourself. It was the same, Spot who followed people you purport to dislike intensely into 24Hours forum ....It was the same, Spot who cut and pasted messages from , Cya onto this board, yet took umbrage when you saw your own posts made visible in here brought from , R& R. months prior to that. Your the same, Spot who manages to gloss over everything you do, yet have this pious attitude that your allowed to act out because you window dress it with your whimsical prevaricating claptrap.

The active serious threads you yearn for have been given short thrift because of your incessant need to win every debate you enter by pounding everyone into submission with streams of links , when all that's asked for is a personal opinion based on what people actually see around them daily. The same, Spot finally declared that the U.S would be one of the last places on earth you'd want to visit, giving even more credence to your ever persistent boot on everything from the USA ...including the way they choose to live their day to day lives....we happen to be the visitors in here, it's not the other way round....this is a U.S based forum. .

Sorry, Spot, but, you'd stand a better chance of becoming Cardinal if you, yourself didn't accuse "anyone" of being pious, or, state anyone else is spouting claptrap if you drew your own claws in. The notion of anyone looking for power struggle is palpable nonsense....all that happens in here is there are people who won't bow to, or defer, because they fight back, and rail against sheer hypocrisy.

One of the reasons, so many have almost given up in here is you ! I too remember it was easier to give a personal opinion in here based on no more than having lived within the community where we live, and the last thing anyone needs, is to have that opinion mocked, and the people who give it , made to look foolish and small for your gratification. Reading words like, pious & claptrap fall easily off the tongue for you, because many allow that to happen because they have a fear of you .....Christ knows why, your so obvious, but I'm one of the few who you don't impress

Your own hatred of a member that spans back to, 2005 took many in here because they had no problem with that member....now even when they are gone, you still seek that member out on other boards, your obsession with it is all too visible ...... Pious? You reek of it.



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Two things are going to happen:

First, we will be accused of running to get you and second: you will be accused of being in a gang with us. Regardless that everything you just typed IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

Oh, and you know what else, CLance? I bet cya is flooded with someone trying to see if I went to get you!!!:driving: :wah:

And I'd ask people to stop! Don't let two people who jumped in to begin throwing personal insults ruin the quality of the thread! PLEASE!

Lulu2;541707 wrote: Minx, if you don't agree...that's just fine! You didn't jump in and bomb me with negative words because we're adults! Disagreement is healthy when it's respectful and impersonal. As far as I know, disagreement is still allowed here, right?


Somebody not taking something personal is unrealistic. No matter how you word a post, sometimes it's going to be read wrong.

minks;541719 wrote: and koan has defended her friend.

DG it's fine to defend a friend.


But spot wasnt getting double teamed minx. If 2 members were having a disagreement, let them. Now its 2 on 1 and that wasnt fair, so I jumoed in. Its that simple.

Hey.....these posts "could have" been moved to a muck section. Ok, I'm done talking about this in this thread (yet another spin off thread is out there folks). My apology to Pinky.

Lulu2;541722 wrote: And I'd ask people to stop! Don't let two people who jumped in to begin throwing personal insults ruin the quality of the thread! PLEASE!


it pains me to agree with you Lulu

Yes go on stick to the topic and get it out the troubles we have here.... no name calling jsut lets vent our sorry butts off and maybe come up with a solution lets make this the last thread of t his kind (sorry it had to be yours Pinky) and vow to leave all old bad feelings and dealings behind us.

Lulu2;541707 wrote: You didn't jump in and bomb me with negative words because we're adults! Disagreement is healthy when it's respectful and impersonal.You're quite right, lulu. What you need to ask yourself isn't even what you intended by the following quote, though. You need only ask yourelf whom the average poster is going to think of when they see you making these descriptions:People whose egos are so large they feel the need to display their verbal acuity or their viciousness in public, to the dismay of the rest of us. OR--the ones who appear cute and cuddly in one thread and viperous in another, depending on whom they like at the moment.As for a serious thread discussing the differences between your faction and what DG describes as a "gang jumping into disagreements" (though how two people constitute a gang baffles me), by all means start one and perhaps (as Minks suggests) we might bring this phase to an amicable conclusion.

I just saw the Clancy post, and the DG self-justification. It seems I only need to enter a thread for the pack to gather. We really qualify as a "gang", Koan and me? I'm amazed.

If a call-out thread really would help then fine, let's do it, and let's start it by asking anyone not involved to stay out while we clear matters up.

Clancy, did you manage to write all that on your own?

DesignerGal;541725 wrote: Now its 2 on 1 and that wasnt fair, so I jumoed in. Its that simple.


Are you the same DesignerGal that posted in a thread called "This IISSSS

WWEiiRD" hosted by getphpbb.com?

spot;541735 wrote: You're quite right, lulu. What you need to ask yourself isn't even what you intended by the following quote, though. You need only ask yourelf whom the average poster is going to think of when they see you making these descriptions:People whose egos are so large they feel the need to display their verbal acuity or their viciousness in public, to the dismay of the rest of us. OR--the ones who appear cute and cuddly in one thread and viperous in another, depending on whom they like at the moment.As for a serious thread discussing the differences between your faction and what DG describes as a "gang jumping into disagreements" (though how two people constitute a gang baffles me), by all means start one and perhaps (as Minks suggests) we might bring this phase to an amicable conclusion.

I just saw the Clancy post, and the DG self-justification. It seems I only need to enter a thread for the pack to gather. We really qualify as a "gang", Koan and me? I'm amazed.

If a call-out thread really would help then fine, let's do it, and let's start it by asking anyone not involved to stay out while we clear matters up.

Clancy, did you manage to write all that on your own?


See? Why are you such a prick?

devist8me;541726 wrote: Hey.....these posts "could have" been moved to a muck section. Ok, I'm done talking about this in this thread (yet another spin off thread is out there folks). My apology to Pinky.


That's a good idea - isn't there already somewhere called "The Compost Heap",

or is that read-only?

Bill Sikes;541737 wrote: Are you the same DesignerGal that posted in a thread called "This IISSSS

WWEiiRD" hosted by getphpbb.com?


Is that your business? If so, what's your point?

DesignerGal;541742 wrote:

Is that your business? If so, what's your point?


Of course it's my business, silly! My point is simply that you said:

Originally Posted by DesignerGal

Now its 2 on 1 and that wasnt fair, so I jumoed in. Its that simple.



Does the pot call the kettle black?

flopstock;541752 wrote: You go hold open the gate and I'll shooo the little rascals in there..


:) Do you think that such an area would be very busy, or quite quiet? Upon

reflection, I tend to the latter idea!

Bill Sikes;541754 wrote: Of course it's my business, silly! My point is simply that you said:

Originally Posted by DesignerGal

Now its 2 on 1 and that wasnt fair, so I jumoed in. Its that simple.



Does the pot call the kettle black?


Im still missing your point.

guppy waving madly to all the fgers i see on this thread......

no lets leave this here and let'er rip and later we can call this place the muck pit or whatever we want....

guppy;541761 wrote: guppy waving madly to all the fgers i see on this thread......
Hi fishy

Suzy's waving back :guitarist Does anyone know where Hammy and Pinky are? Can you PM me please, I want to join them

HI Gups and Suzie and Minks and the other people that are fighting and making my simple minded head spin....

Suzie I'll pm you...:-6 If no-one has beat me to it!;)

WonderWendy3;541769 wrote: HI Gups and Suzie and Minks and the other people that are fighting and making my simple minded head spin....

Suzie I'll pm you...:-6 If no-one has beat me to it!;)


Thanks mate :-4

sorry WW, I shall jump off my soap box....

SuzyB;541772 wrote: Thanks mate :-4


oops sorry I mis-spelled your name!! Sorry:-5

minks;541779 wrote: sorry WW, I shall jump off my soap box....


Minks you are a sweet person:-4

WonderWendy3;541782 wrote: Minks you are a sweet person:-4


:o Garsh thanks

I hope we accomplished something here today....

sure ya did....my head got a great work out!!! (from spinnin')

And I'm impressed with all the big words people can use!!:-6

DesignerGal;541742 wrote: Is that your business? If so, what's your point?


By posting here you are making it every member's business.

Bryn Mawr;541793 wrote: By posting here you are making it every member's business.


waves at Bryn, yes as are we all.

But if we look closely at who has come and gone out of this thread since it started we have moderated ourselves and tamed this down yet again.... maybe we can all come back in other threads and respect each other....

Far Rider;541794 wrote: Hi folks!

Let me wax nastalgic!

I loved it here, and I sort of loved everybody here too, even those I disagreed with and I tried to pick out things that I liked about those I disagreed with too. It helped keep the civility.

In the whole scheme of things my opinion was and is just my opinion, who was I to force it on anyone. I can express it and if I do and some agree than all is fine and well, if not then thats life lets move on.

Want a nice forum, then state your opinion once, clarify it if you must, but after that let it go.

It was when some could not leave it go that the problems in FG surfaced and the wars started. In retrospect it was just silly.

I let a few get to me and it casued me some paranoia about who was and who was not 'in my group'.

Let me give you an example of a charmingly exceptional poster you all have right here, loved by all, quiet, respected, and she really cares.

Chonsigirl!

Now why is she so well respected?

Becasue she states her opinions once, doesnt beat it over yer heads and then she flitters away in kindness.

I was once respected well by most here in FG, and believe me I loved it. I let a few get to me and I thought it best to leave instead of contribute to the ongoing ugliness.

I have no idea whats been going on here lately as I have pretty much stayed out of it, oh true I lurked here and there, checked threads where my name was mentioned etc.

I miss heading into the pub and cutting up a bit, dropping my opinions in the religion section and getting beat up for it here and there, I miss coming along side of a hurting member and encouraging them, I miss commenting about the craziness in the general forum. I miss expressing my emotions on a subject and telling a few of my childhood stories. I miss telling Spot and Koan they are wrong (wink)...

I miss shotgunning a troll or an advertiser!

I miss bumping up the butter thread!

I miss the snowball fights!

The utter sillyness.

I think though that one of the things that makes the forum interesting is the opposing views.

I am a warmonger type, Koan is a total pacifist, somewhere there is a balance and in our discussions I learn to be less of a warmonger. Niether of us will change though, and ya gotta laugh a bit about that.

Was that nastalgic or an exhortation?

Exhortation:

Disagree without attacking. Be civil. State your case then leave it go. Play 10 times more than you seriously discuss stuff. I think thats a good balance.

If I didnt have my own place I would strive here to help make FG more nastalgic I suppose.

Thanks for your time!

Far.


bloody hell I had to do a double take

minks;541796 wrote: bloody hell I had to do a double takeIt's like an unexpected visit by royalty. Always something to brag about in the future, but your knees tremble when the door opens and there they are in the flesh.

minks;541795 wrote: waves at Bryn, yes as are we all.

But if we look closely at who has come and gone out of this thread since it started we have moderated ourselves and tamed this down yet again.... maybe we can all come back in other threads and respect each other....


As Pinky said, it was a nice thread once, maybe it can become one again.

A bit more tolerance, a bit less agresion and we might build a bit more respect.

In the mean time, how you doing - it's a long time since we had a chat.

BTW - thank you Far for a great post.

spot;541801 wrote: It's like an unexpected visit by royalty. Always something to brag about in the future, but your knees tremble when the door opens and there they are in the flesh.


'scuse me a moment while I poke you in the eye for that :wah:

Yes it was nice to hear from Far, he was a big contributor back in the day and yes I have a special place for him in my heart cause he has been a grand friend to me in some pretty poopie times.

I will go on worshiping him as Spot has pointed out :-4

Ya werido spot

PS spot and far have had their moments too so hah!:D

Bryn Mawr;541804 wrote: As Pinky said, it was a nice thread once, maybe it can become one again.

A bit more tolerance, a bit less agression and we might build a bit more respect.

In the mean time, how you doing - it's a long time since we had a chat.

BTW - thank you Far for a great post.


yes and you know we had a little flare up in here, it died down, people were allowed their say and it looks kind of nice again... everybody ought to pat them selves on the back for how this went. Pinky take a bow, and anyone out there rolling their eyes at me.... be darn glad you still have 2 eyes to do that with, Spot only has one.

Aw Bryn I am fine all things considering.

minks;541807 wrote: 'scuse me a moment while I poke you in the eye for that :wah:



Yes it was nice to hear from Far, he was a big contributor back in the day and yes I have a special place for him in my heart cause he has been a grand friend to me in some pretty poopie times.

I will go on worshiping him as Spot has pointed out :-4



Ya werido spot



PS spot and far have had their moments too so hah!:D




Ditto what Minks said!! Far.................:-4 Miss you!!

Far Rider;541811 wrote: ahahahah, no one bows to me. I'm pretty low on the totem pole!


ah but you have left some pretty amazing impressions upon folks in this forum ya know.

Soooo before we turn this into a Far mutual admiration thread I just think it ought to be noted... opinions were spoken and read and for the most part respected.

I hope others feel the same

yea, far, you are one of the special people that always brings good things to anybody lucky enought to get to know you....:-4

Far Rider;541816 wrote: Oh well give me a hug then!



ahahaha Hiya Betty Good to see ya dressed in that li'red dress!:-4


Hope you've got your cowboy boots on cowboy!! :yh_hugs :yh_hugs

minks;541796 wrote: bloody hell I had to do a double takeDitto



minks;541807 wrote:



Yes it was nice to hear from Far, he was a big contributor back in the day and yes I have a special place for him in my heart Ditto:-4



Betty Boop;541813 wrote: Ditto what Minks said!! Far.................:-4 Miss you!!Ditto (sigh)



minks;541815 wrote: ah but you have left some pretty amazing impressions upon folks in this forum ya know.Yup. :-4