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Bruv;1455692 wrote: I know our systems are different, but please expand on that for us.


The year leading up to a major election, each state has primary election or caucus. Currently the state determines when do hold these. Some caucuses are in February, and the last are in June.

At the State level, these weed out a lot of the candidates for legislature and local offices, and narrow it down to which individual will get their party's nomination for the office.

On the national level, for President, the candidates wander about the country, campaigning in the "hot" states to get votes from their party. As time passes, those who score early wins get more money to spend while those who have bad showings start losing support. (If you don't impress voters in Iowa in March, then you may not get enough money to travel about and impress voters in Ohio, or New York.) Pretty soon, only the guys with big money can get in on the later state Primaries. So, it's not about who has the best plan, but who has the richest friends.

And here, there are a number of parties, but only the two really count. And by October, you have two choices, neither of which may be one you want, and often, you vote for the one simply because the other one seems to be such a bad choice, you don't even get why anyone would vote for that one in the first place.



For your browsing pleasure, Here is a peak at the presidential primary from the 2012 election. We really didn't have much choice to start with, but you can track the weeding process.

Oh, and of course while all this is going on, everyone is looking for any dirt that can be used against the competition, in hopes of discrediting them and forcing them to drop out of the race.

Results of the Republican Party presidential primaries, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Meanwhile, something else to ponder upon.. seriously,why Is anyone even listening to him ?

Tony Blair's rank hypocrisy when he opened Britain to millions of immigrations, but sneers at Ukip | Mail Online

Well, somebody at BBC apparently does.

@LarsMac

I doubt if I could describe how our selection process works, but sure enough it's not that complicated.

Still not sure if the Primaries are open to public vote or within the parties concerned and who pays for them.

I believe our Party leaders or potential Prime Ministers are chosen 'in house' by Party members funded by the party, although some public funding is involved.

Bruv;1455713 wrote: @LarsMac

I doubt if I could describe how our selection process works, but sure enough it's not that complicated.

Still not sure if the Primaries are open to public vote or within the parties concerned and who pays for them.

I believe our Party leaders or potential Prime Ministers are chosen 'in house' by Party members funded by the party, although some public funding is involved.


Sorry, i wasn't clear on that part.

When we register to vote in our city/county, we can either register as an independent, or as a member of a political party.

Then, in most states, the primary, or caucus is open to registered party members, and you receive a ballot specific to your party. In some states, though, you can declare an affiliation at the polls on the election day, and vote in whichever party primary you wish. (only one party selection per voter, of course)

LarsMac;1455705 wrote: Well, somebody at BBC apparently does. It's quite remarkable how views change.

B.liar leads us Into an Illegal war costing the country millions on lies...

His government endorses mass Immigration adding 4 million to the population... hmmm people start to question.

His government then fiddles about with the equality laws so the man In the street will be deemed racist should he dare express an opinion.

Far Right leaders are arrested and prosecuted for Inciting racial hatred for speaking out on Muslim rape gangs. ( Not guilty by Jury)

Mass Immigration then blamed by some police officers for Muslim Grooming gangs.

B.Liar's government then admit they got It wrong on mass Immigration but continue to harass and smear Far Right members who speak out.

Country populace now wants B.liar tried for war crimes.

Country then goes to the polls and votes Far Right.

There's nowt as queer as folk.

Oscar Sellotape;1455719 wrote: I

Country then goes to the polls and votes Far Right.




The country elects a handful of MEP's, the fact they are far right is......almost......immaterial

LarsMac;1455715 wrote: Sorry, i wasn't clear on that part.

When we register to vote in our city/county, we can either register as an independent, or as a member of a political party.

Then, in most states, the primary, or caucus is open to registered party members, and you receive a ballot specific to your party. In some states, though, you can declare an affiliation at the polls on the election day, and vote in whichever party primary you wish. (only one party selection per voter, of course)


So when registering.......and before you have decided which way you might vote....... you decide which party you might want to vote for in future?

And all this is 'on record'and out of the public purse ?

It all appears worrying to me......Liberty wise.

Bruv;1455729 wrote: So when registering.......and before you have decided which way you might vote....... you decide which party you might want to vote for in future?

And all this is 'on record'and out of the public purse ?

It all appears worrying to me......Liberty wise.


Well, the only time you registered party affiliation comes into play is during the primary and Caucus period. And of course who you support monetarily. In theory, you have a say in who your party will put up for the general election.

I suppose that if one party ever managed to take over the gummint, and wanted to have a purge, they could acquire the public roles and round all of the opposition up and ship them off to Africa, or Canada or something. But, I doubt that is going to happen in my lifetime.

I registered as a Republican, and now I get all the annoying phone calls from the Birthers and Friends of Rush, and people who want to impeach the Pres. I usually can shut them down by telling them that I voted for Nader.

Bruv;1455728 wrote: The country elects a handful of MEP's, the fact they are far right is......almost......immaterial And over 100 new Council seats ????

Bruv;1455728 wrote: The country elects a handful of MEP's, the fact they are far right is......almost......immaterial Did you happen to look at the results In Scotland ?

I spent 15 minutes of my life but 15 minutes well spent If I can sneer at gmc but I was shocked at per % of turnout, electorate for each area, the amount of votes for Far Right Including Britian First and the BNP.

I'll see If I can find them again but It surprised me.

One of the main points of a democracy is the secrecy of the vote.

I can join and affect policy of our political parties, for a small fee, but that is between me and the party alone.

To officially register your political leanings seems most peculiar.

And the political pundits are starting to weigh in on the thing:

http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/201 ... es-europe/

Earthquakes struck all over Europe this past weekend, as the votes for the European Parliament came in.

Parties on both the left and the right wanting to loosen ties to the European Union had notable victories in the UK, France, Spain and several other nations.

The results have gravely wounded the European project, which is to move the 28 EU member nations to an “ever-closer union. The project may, indeed, have been killed. Here’s why:

UKIP would be nowhere in the euriopean elections if it was not for proportional representation. I think people are so, pissed off they ae either not voting or voting for parties they hope will shake things up. There is no tory party in scotland and they would have no seats in the scottish parliament were it not for PR the snp were the protest vote. UKIP support in scotland is an aberration except in the west where sectarinism comes in to it, bit hard to support ulster unionists and scottish independence. Scotland has always had it's far right elements, bigots, racists and knuckle dragging morons that make ukip and the bnp seem sane and peace loving religious bigotry rather than race plays a more important part.

UKIP gainming power ould be a disaster but I hope they have scared the political establishment. The lib dens are finished, they have managed to lose their core support and blown the chance they had to make a differenc. I blame clegg but not entirely - did no one in the party say don't be so bloody daft.

gmc;1455757 wrote: UKIP would be nowhere in the euriopean elections if it was not for proportional representation. I think people are so, pissed off they ae either not voting or voting for parties they hope will shake things up. There is no tory party in scotland and they would have no seats in the scottish parliament were it not for PR the snp were the protest vote. UKIP support in scotland is an aberration except in the west where sectarinism comes in to it, bit hard to support ulster unionists and scottish independence. Scotland has always had it's far right elements, bigots, racists and knuckle dragging morons that make ukip and the bnp seem sane and peace loving religious bigotry rather than race plays a more important part.

UKIP gainming power ould be a disaster but I hope they have scared the political establishment. The lib dens are finished, they have managed to lose their core support and blown the chance they had to make a differenc. I blame clegg but not entirely - did no one in the party say don't be so bloody daft.


I'd be more Impressed If the old coffin dodger Cable had the balls to do an assassination on Clegg. He had every opportunity to back Lord Oakeshott and salvage something. They have just made themselves look all the more ridiculous by not all calling for a resignation. All the time they back him, the Party will be finished.

Have you actually looked at the breakdown for your results In Scotland ? Add up the UKIP, BNP and BF vote... you have a lot of racists In Scotland It appears.

Oscar Farage;1455773 wrote: I'd be more Impressed If the old coffin dodger Cable had the balls to do an assassination on Clegg. He had every opportunity to back Lord Oakeshott and salvage something. They have just made themselves look all the more ridiculous by not all calling for a resignation. All the time they back him, the Party will be finished.

Have you actually looked at the breakdown for your results In Scotland ? Add up the UKIP, BNP and BF vote... you have a lot of racists In Scotland It appears.


You think? !!! Did you really think we were all intellectuals sitting around discussing our differences amicably. Luckily the Religious bigots prefer to kick each other more than they want to beat up coloured people. Any islmic fundamentalist trying to patrol the streets like they do in london would get one hell of a shock at the reaction, the level of violence they wopuld attract would send them running for cover. Come o hat I'm surprised they get away with it in london. Have you no hooligans spoiling for a fight any mr?

I would be more impressed wth vince cable if he had actually stuck to his principles and not gone in to coalition. Like I said did no one in the party realise what the ionsequencs wuld be? their core support never voted for that, the same happened with the liblab pact under callaghan. It almost killed the liberal party then and history is repeating itself. Th liberals formad a coalition in the scottish parliament with labour that also killed them . Every time they get a whiff of a chance of gaining office they blow it by sellingnouit to get power rather than stick by what they stand for. This time i reaklly think they are done for.