LarsMac;1480062 wrote: No doubt.
He was quite the impressive individual. He nearly single-handedly dragged Russia from the 18th century feudalism into the 20th century industrialism. Had he not died when he did, the rest of the 20th century would have looked much different.
It was my opinion that he should have been the Time Person of the Century. While Einstein, Hitler, Roosevelt, and Gandhi all had their strong points, it was Uncle Joe who truly shaped the century.
That is what drives Putin's popularity in Russia. There are still many who long for the days of Uncle Joe.
And, if that doesn't scare the bejesus out of you, you don't really understand Human Nature.
Rather worrying, isn't it? That's one of the reasons why I have posted several "warnings" about Russia on other threads, it's definitely flexing it's muscles(again), and Europe is not really up to the job of curbing/influencing Russia's activities, except financially, and it must be said they have similar holds on Europe(imagine if VladdyPu turned off the EU gas-tap...). How short-sighted the EU has been, investing cash and trust into a "flakey" nation such as Russia, WITHOUT the military clout to back up demands if necessary.
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" To finish first, first you have to finish!" Rick Mears. 4x Winner Indy 500. 3x Indycar National Champion.
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What you have failed, perhaps, to grasp is that some of us would much prefer to see the Dictatorship of the Proletariat universally established in place of the current antisocial Capitalist Plutarchy, and that the Soviet approach is high on our list of attainable models.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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What you fail to realize, it seems, is that no matter the espoused philosophy of the leaders, the natural order of human society is to gravitate towards a plutocracy.
All of the other stated goals of any society are merely fantasies spun by clever people to reel in the masses.
No social order will ever help anyone to reach Nirvana/heaven/paradise. You're on your own. Deal with it.
All of the other stated goals of any society are merely fantasies spun by clever people to reel in the masses.
No social order will ever help anyone to reach Nirvana/heaven/paradise. You're on your own. Deal with it.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
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spot;1480084 wrote: What you have failed, perhaps, to grasp is that some of us would much prefer to see the Dictatorship of the Proletariat universally established in place of the current antisocial Capitalist Plutarchy, and that the Soviet approach is high on our list of attainable models.
Dream on...............Wealth equality Soviet stylee
Dream on...............Wealth equality Soviet stylee
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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spot;1480084 wrote: What you have failed, perhaps, to grasp is that some of us would much prefer to see the Dictatorship of the Proletariat universally established in place of the current antisocial Capitalist Plutarchy, and that the Soviet approach is high on our list of attainable models.
And we have a new contender for delusion of the year...if you think it would be;
1. Humane
2. Fair
I won't say workable, because any old rubbish CAN work SOMEWHAT if you force things, regardless of the cost, damage and misery. I must confess to a certain disappointment in your ideals and politics, and your attitude to people.
And we have a new contender for delusion of the year...if you think it would be;
1. Humane
2. Fair
I won't say workable, because any old rubbish CAN work SOMEWHAT if you force things, regardless of the cost, damage and misery. I must confess to a certain disappointment in your ideals and politics, and your attitude to people.
" To finish first, first you have to finish!" Rick Mears. 4x Winner Indy 500. 3x Indycar National Champion.
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Smaug;1480105 wrote: And we have a new contender for delusion of the year...if you think it wold be;
1. Humane
2. Fair
I won't say workable, because any old rubbish CAN work SOMEWHAT if you force things, regardless of the cost, damage and misery. I must confess to a certain disappointment in your ideals and politics, and your attitude to people.
I would like to defend Spot's idealism.
Theoretically socialism......true socialism is the only way.
But then again on paper, I repeat theoretically, on paper, most everything works and can be explained away, on paper.
All that is worth nothing when the intricacies of mankind's frailties are taken into account.
And I say that as a life long socialist.
1. Humane
2. Fair
I won't say workable, because any old rubbish CAN work SOMEWHAT if you force things, regardless of the cost, damage and misery. I must confess to a certain disappointment in your ideals and politics, and your attitude to people.
I would like to defend Spot's idealism.
Theoretically socialism......true socialism is the only way.
But then again on paper, I repeat theoretically, on paper, most everything works and can be explained away, on paper.
All that is worth nothing when the intricacies of mankind's frailties are taken into account.
And I say that as a life long socialist.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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Bruv;1480107 wrote: I would like to defend Spot's idealism.
Theoretically socialism......true socialism is the only way.
But then again on paper, I repeat theoretically, on paper, most everything works and can be explained away, on paper.
All that is worth nothing when the intricacies of mankind's frailties are taken into account.
And I say that as a life long socialist.
TRUE socialism, maybe. If by that you mean everyone being genuinely equal, and all things being communally owned, and money a thing of the past, to cite a few examples. We probably need a few thousand years more learning first, in several areas.
Number one to learn is humanity/compassion.
Number two to learn is power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But there is an answer for no.2....online proletariat voting/swipe-card voting on ALL political decisions. This is "Nirvana" as it stands, but in mankind's future, who knows....
Number three....one-world government,with no national boundaries.
Theoretically socialism......true socialism is the only way.
But then again on paper, I repeat theoretically, on paper, most everything works and can be explained away, on paper.
All that is worth nothing when the intricacies of mankind's frailties are taken into account.
And I say that as a life long socialist.
TRUE socialism, maybe. If by that you mean everyone being genuinely equal, and all things being communally owned, and money a thing of the past, to cite a few examples. We probably need a few thousand years more learning first, in several areas.
Number one to learn is humanity/compassion.
Number two to learn is power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But there is an answer for no.2....online proletariat voting/swipe-card voting on ALL political decisions. This is "Nirvana" as it stands, but in mankind's future, who knows....
Number three....one-world government,with no national boundaries.
" To finish first, first you have to finish!" Rick Mears. 4x Winner Indy 500. 3x Indycar National Champion.
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Someone appears to have made Mr Blatter an offer he couldn't refuse.
BBC Sport - Sepp Blatter to resign as Fifa president amid corruption scandal
BBC Sport - Sepp Blatter to resign as Fifa president amid corruption scandal
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1480149 wrote: Someone appears to have made Mr Blatter an offer he couldn't refuse.
BBC Sport - Sepp Blatter to resign as Fifa president amid corruption scandal
Mmmmm.................it must have been a good 'un !
BBC Sport - Sepp Blatter to resign as Fifa president amid corruption scandal
Mmmmm.................it must have been a good 'un !
I'm a Saga-lout, growing old disgracefully
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He said.....
"My mandate does not appear to be supported by everybody."
Or was that the bloke on the bike ?
"My mandate does not appear to be supported by everybody."
Or was that the bloke on the bike ?
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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Smaug;1480110 wrote: TRUE socialism, maybe. If by that you mean everyone being genuinely equal, and all things being communally owned, and money a thing of the past, to cite a few examples. We probably need a few thousand years more learning first, in several areas.
Number one to learn is humanity/compassion.
Number two to learn is power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But there is an answer for no.2....online proletariat voting/swipe-card voting on ALL political decisions. This is "Nirvana" as it stands, but in mankind's future, who knows....
Number three....one-world government,with no national boundaries.
Except that Socialism isn't the same thing as Communism.
Number one to learn is humanity/compassion.
Number two to learn is power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But there is an answer for no.2....online proletariat voting/swipe-card voting on ALL political decisions. This is "Nirvana" as it stands, but in mankind's future, who knows....
Number three....one-world government,with no national boundaries.
Except that Socialism isn't the same thing as Communism.
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FourPart;1480235 wrote: Except that Socialism isn't the same thing as Communism.
Socialism is Communism Lite in modern parlance, or better......communism with aspiration.
Socialism is Communism Lite in modern parlance, or better......communism with aspiration.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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Bruv;1480237 wrote: Socialism is Communism Lite in modern parlance, or better......communism with aspiration.
Socialism strives to have those who are better off help those who aren't so fortunate. With Communism no-one is better or worse off in the first place.
Socialism strives to have those who are better off help those who aren't so fortunate. With Communism no-one is better or worse off in the first place.