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G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:05 pm

That £207 bill, was it for a similar amount of time i.e. 10 weeks?

I would say that there is definitely something wrong. Either the meter was miss-read (which is doubtful), the meter has a malfunction ( sometimes a meter can go 'fast' thus indicating that more electricity has been used than there actually has been, and a test meter should be installed for a period of time ) , or there has been an error back at the office, with fumble fingers on the computer keyboard. The possibility that somebody has tapped into your meter to extract electricity is also doubtful, as I expect the meter reader surely would have noticed - or would they? Whatever the reason, there is something not right about that bill! Offer to pay a certain amount, as I suggested, whilst they get the whole thing sorted to everybody's satisfaction - particularly yours!

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:12 pm

Helen;1303295 wrote: hi gill,

after my last bill was £207, which i did expect cos i did have the heating on 24/7, i turned it off at night and only put it on when i really needed it.

im out at work or darts six nites a week and i also eat out on those nites too so theres no need to cook.

when i am here i only have the tv, a small lamp and my electric blanket ( for a couple of hours ) on.

as i said in my last post, my youngest, with a family of SIX in a three bed house and everything that entails, constant hot water, washing drying baths every day cooking, kids in their various rooms with tv's and games consoles on the go uses about £20 a week !!!

anyway, i shall wait and see what this chap has to say tomorrow, he's due here at about 10-30am.

if i dont get any joy then i shall seek advice from somewhere else !!!

i cant have a key or card meter cos the meters are in the hall of the main house and the estate agent has the only key, which im not allowed to have use of except to take a reading if its an estimated bill which this one apparantly wasnt !!!!

have you phoned your electricity company?

they will also come out and check the reading and meter.

someone could also be stealing your electricity.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:37 pm

Odie;1303327 wrote: have you phoned your electricity company?

they will also come out and check the reading and meter.

someone could also be stealing your electricity.

I also said this ! Did you not read my post? :rolleyes::wah:

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:49 pm

Odie's right about one thing though - what the heck does a flamin estate agent know about things like that? You need to get the electricity company out to read and check the meter, and put in a test meter, like she said! If the estate agent is charry about that, tell the bugger it's you that is being told to foot the bill, not him, and you want the electricity company to come and inspect the meter, unless of course the estate agent is going to pay the bill !!!!!! :rolleyes: warra pratt! You know it wouldn't do for me not to be able to check my own bloody electric meter! What a strange set up! Normally each flat/house would have their own meter, wired to that particular property!

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:32 pm

G#Gill;1303347 wrote: Odie's right about one thing though - what the heck does a flamin estate agent know about things like that? You need to get the electricity company out to read and check the meter, and put in a test meter, like she said! If the estate agent is charry about that, tell the bugger it's you that is being told to foot the bill, not him, and you want the electricity company to come and inspect the meter, unless of course the estate agent is going to pay the bill !!!!!! :rolleyes: warra pratt! You know it wouldn't do for me not to be able to check my own bloody electric meter! What a strange set up! Normally each flat/house would have their own meter, wired to that particular property!

This is what I was thinking, what does a landlord know what to look for....he also has no idea what your meter read the months before.

If we insist on the electric company coming up and nothing is wrong, then we are charged, but then at least we know nothing is wrong and no one is stealing our hydro.

Its known that people do steal others hydro.

they had installed new meters in one region of Toronto just last year, residents found their bills to be quite out of the normal range and very high...turns out those new meters were faulty.

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:57 am

hi gill and odie,

the estate agent is coming round to read the meter for me cos i cant get round there to do it myself, i shall then compare that with whats on my bill.

i have a well rehearsed speech prepared for him

and i am going to insist that this meter is checked.

it spans a 12week period and averages out at £29.50 a week. there is absolutely no way i can have used that amount in 7 days unless i had every labour saving device known to mankind on the go at the same time !!!!

i did phone the electric company at great expense from my mobile phone, she baffled me with science after i said id cut down greatly on the usage after my £207 bill so why was this one £100 dearer, apparantly their winter isnt the same as ours so thats why me bill was so big and i could pay off the bill and what im using now at £90 a month !!!!!!!!

anyway, im gonna wait til this guy turns up or i will be workin myself up in to a state again !!!!!

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:44 am

well ive had some joy !!!!!!

the estate agent has just taken the meter reading and it appears ive been charged for 666 units i havnt used !!!!!!!!!

for odies benefit

you can have an estimated reading if they cant get into the property for some reason based on your average usage or you can have an actual reading where the electricity people come to read the meter themselves.

this was an actual reading so the mistake was theirs .................

he's going to contact the electricity company on my behalf and put it right.

im now going to look up the company on the computor and give em a piece of my mind !!!!!!

im also wondering if my last bill was a mistake too but because it said actuall reading i paid it without question !!!!!!!

Post by **Betty Boop** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:15 am

Helen;1303408 wrote: well ive had some joy !!!!!!

the estate agent has just taken the meter reading and it appears ive been charged for 666 units i havnt used !!!!!!!!!

for odies benefit

you can have an estimated reading if they cant get into the property for some reason based on your average usage or you can have an actual reading where the electricity people come to read the meter themselves.

this was an actual reading so the mistake was theirs .................

he's going to contact the electricity company on my behalf and put it right.

im now going to look up the company on the computor and give em a piece of my mind !!!!!!

im also wondering if my last bill was a mistake too but because it said actuall reading i paid it without question !!!!!!!

Glad you're getting it sorted, what a pain. But, even if you had three bills that were over the amount you'd used and then they managed to get the fourth reading right you'd discover you'd have a very low bill for the fourth. That has happened to me in the past, the trouble is when you're living on the bread line you can't afford to be paying in advance hey! I'm electric key meter and gas card like Gill, I know we pay extra but at least we can see what we are using and get no nasty shocks.

Looking at next week to visit, been so busy with getting essays done and handed in, I'm away for a few days at the weekend and then the children go back to school on Monday it's chaos. Actually I don't think I've ever known such a busy Easter Hols, the children are normally bored within the first week, they've not a chance to be this time :wah:

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:19 am

Helen;1303408 wrote: well ive had some joy !!!!!!

the estate agent has just taken the meter reading and it appears ive been charged for 666 units i havnt used !!!!!!!!!

for odies benefit

you can have an estimated reading if they cant get into the property for some reason based on your average usage or you can have an actual reading where the electricity people come to read the meter themselves.

this was an actual reading so the mistake was theirs .................

he's going to contact the electricity company on my behalf and put it right.

im now going to look up the company on the computor and give em a piece of my mind !!!!!!

im also wondering if my last bill was a mistake too but because it said actuall reading i paid it without question !!!!!!!

So pleased you have a result !!!!! I take back what I said about your estate agent fella !

Perhaps the lecky company would allow you to have a direct debit of so much per month, to spread the load better, rather than a big bill every quarter - just a thought, then you would know roughly your outgoings each month, rather than some months being large outgoings and others being smaller? Before we had the card meter, then they changed it to a 'key' meter, we had a direct debit, which was the same each month, which was calculated by dividing the previous annual amount into 12 payments - if we were in credit then they would re-imburse us the over-payment amount, and if we hadn't paid enough over the year, then they would adjust the following year's direct debit to take in our owings! It worked very well for us.

Eeeee it's a sunny day here, and I hope it is a sunny day there! Now you can simmer down a little and enjoy a little peace of mind! Hope things can get sorted very soon for you Helen ! :-6

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:46 am

sorry guys, you can cancel my last post, he read the wrong reading out to me and it now seems ive used another 200 units in SIX DAYS,

by the time id told him everything ive told you all, i was sobbing hysterically down the phone and about to reach for me bottle of tablets.

he is now going to have the meter looked at !!!!

im afraid ive just about had enuff for one day.

why is it that when, wether it be friends, family or or bloody utility companies look at me all they can see is ££££ signs...............................

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:49 am

Oh Helen, it's just too much mate, innit!!! Try not to worry, but that's easier said than done. It will be sorted, I'm sure! With that extra 200 in six days (you've been in hospital as well!), tells me that there is something very wrong with that meter! What can I say ? FFS I wish folks would get things right !!!! I'll re-say my original thoughts about that estate agent - he's a pratt! Fancy getting your hopes up like that!!!! Block Wally's ears up then have a bloody good yell at the world! :-5:-5:-5

Tell the Electricity Company that you will be sending them a bill for compensation, with them causing you unnecessary worry and stress over their incompetence and faulty machinery. Just the sort of thing to receive straight after you've come out of hospital having had a severe injury! Keep shouting at them till you get satisfaction. Gawd, I wish I was down there !

The more noise you make, the more they will want to sort things if only to shut you up!! If you meet a brick wall - Tell the lecky company that you will go to the press ! If it comes to having to go to the press, just lay it on thick about your predicament with your accident etc. and how it has made you feel ill. The press love a scandal, particularly if it involves a major company!

Good luck to you Helen........................... try not to worry................ don't let the buggers grind you down. You do not owe that much to the Lecky company and common sense should make them realise that!

:-5:-5:-5

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:50 am

G#Gill;1303343 wrote:

I also said this ! Did you not read my post? :rolleyes::wah:

I missed it!

:yh_rotfl

Helen;1303408 wrote: well ive had some joy !!!!!!

the estate agent has just taken the meter reading and it appears ive been charged for 666 units i havnt used !!!!!!!!!

for odies benefit

you can have an estimated reading if they cant get into the property for some reason based on your average usage or you can have an actual reading where the electricity people come to read the meter themselves.

this was an actual reading so the mistake was theirs .................

he's going to contact the electricity company on my behalf and put it right.

im now going to look up the company on the computor and give em a piece of my mind !!!!!!

im also wondering if my last bill was a mistake too but because it said actuall reading i paid it without question !!!!!!!

Oh I`m so happy for you this has been sorted!:-6

and they did take a wrong reading!:-5

We had estimated readings back at the old house, needless to say I checked them thoroughly as they were always higher than they were with an actual reading.

You should check your previews bill as well.

like you.........I check all of my bills cent by cent.

master card charged me 30 cents last month for interest.:-5

it was their mistake.......I have been credited.

some may have not bothered for 30 cents....but I live on a fixed income and that 30 cents is mine.

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:21 am

G#Gill;1303453 wrote: Oh Helen, it's just too much mate, innit!!! Try not to worry, but that's easier said than done. It will be sorted, I'm sure! With that extra 200 in six days (you've been in hospital as well!), tells me that there is something very wrong with that meter! What can I say ? FFS I wish folks would get things right !!!! I'll re-say my original thoughts about that estate agent - he's a pratt! Fancy getting your hopes up like that!!!! Block Wally's ears up then have a bloody good yell at the world! :-5:-5:-5

Tell the Electricity Company that you will be sending them a bill for compensation, with them causing you unnecessary worry and stress over their incompetence and faulty machinery. Just the sort of thing to receive straight after you've come out of hospital having had a severe injury! Keep shouting at them till you get satisfaction. Gawd, I wish I was down there !

The more noise you make, the more they will want to sort things if only to shut you up!! If you meet a brick wall - Tell the lecky company that you will go to the press ! If it comes to having to go to the press, just lay it on thick about your predicament with your accident etc. and how it has made you feel ill. The press love a scandal, particularly if it involves a major company!

Good luck to you Helen........................... try not to worry................ don't let the buggers grind you down. You do not owe that much to the Lecky company and common sense should make them realise that!

:-5:-5:-5

hiya,

what i find frusrating is getting people to LISTEN to you !!! i know theres hundereds of customers with problems to be delt with but each one is important to each customer !!!

i tried to explain that cos me last bill was so high that id cut right down, even to the point of being out of the building for 8 days and switching everything off.

well apparantly their winter is different than ours,so no matter how much i cut down, this bill was always going to be a biggy !!!

is there some logic to this that im missing ??? am i just being thick ??? cos i always understood that if you bought less (eg ) food petrol clothes etc etc, you paid less for it !!!!! you didnt have a £100 added to your bill cos you didnt spend as much !!!!!

my god, my head is spinning................

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:45 am

just got the number of the citizens advice bureux and will be contacting them as soon as they open at 9-30am, apparantly they can do home visits too !!!

Post by **Betty Boop** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:55 am

Good luck with the CAB. Which electric company are you with, what a funny thing to keep telling you that their winter is different :-2. Most people expect the biggest bill around about this time of year yes, but that's generally a reflection of what they have actually USED.

What I don't like about all this is the fact your meter is not there in your flat, why is it not there? It all seems a bit odd

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:02 am

The trouble with these major companies is that, if there is a dispute, they expect their customer to pay the bill first then argue about it afterwards! This is all very well if you are not living hand-to-mouth, but most customers are in this situation particularly at this present time, with the credit squeeze. They don't see people, they just see figures! Everything is computerised, and we all know that computers react to what a human being feeds into them. When somebody says 'Oh it is a computer error!' that is absolute bollocks - it is the fault of the operator! Gone are the days of human to human 'discussion'. Everything goes through a computer.

I wish you well with the C.A.B. and hope that you don't have to keep hanging on whilst you are offered different numbers to press by a recorded voice! However, Helen, be prepared to have to wait before you can actually speak to a 'person', I would think that the CAB are very busy from the time they open to the time they close. But keep on at it, there will have to be a slot some time!

Best of luck Mrs! Keep us posted........

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:06 am

Betty Boop;1303621 wrote: Good luck with the CAB. Which electric company are you with, what a funny thing to keep telling you that their winter is different :-2. Most people expect the biggest bill around about this time of year yes, but that's generally a reflection of what they have actually USED.

What I don't like about all this is the fact your meter is not there in your flat, why is it not there? It all seems a bit odd

My sentiments entirely! It leaves it open to a third party to 'fiddle' with it, at your expense! Most strange! And really not very satisfactory to the tenant. :-5

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:31 am

Helen;1303615 wrote: just got the number of the citizens advice bureux and will be contacting them as soon as they open at 9-30am, apparantly they can do home visits too !!!

wishing you luck Helen.

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:44 am

hi guys,

it never rains but it pours,

magor catastrophy last nite with another member of my family, so i mite not be around for a few days...................

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:33 am

Helen;1303753 wrote: hi guys,

it never rains but it pours,

magor catastrophy last nite with another member of my family, so i mite not be around for a few days...................

oh Helen, I am so very sorry.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:06 am

Hi everybody!

Helen, I'm so sorry to hear that, as if you need any more problems! Stress!!! what stress ???? :-5:-5:-5

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:38 am

G#Gill;1303773 wrote: Hi everybody!

Helen, I'm so sorry to hear that, as if you need any more problems! Stress!!! what stress ???? :-5:-5:-5

good afternoon Gill!

been a really busy and confusing week and a half here, at least its sunny until tomorrow!:rolleyes::-5

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:30 pm

mornin all,

its only 7-15am. had a bad nite, not with the leg but with my neck and shoulder for some reason :-2

going to the loo, which i seemed to do a lot last nite as well :rolleyes: isnt easy either, i have a step up to it so i have to sit on a chair, swing my legs up and over, lift my walking frame over my head and then proceed to do what ive got to then hop back down the step and back into bed.......... not something that can be left til the last minit !!!

got another freind coming to let wallace out today, the other little girl has got a driving lesson at 9am........... the friend has to be at work at 8-30 so shes got to drag herself out an hour earlier to do it........... good job its not rainig !!

have a good day all xx

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:07 am

You need a massage Mrs ! It could be all related to your injury and you having to favour a certain method of moving and balance etc. putting an unusual strain on your neck and shoulder.

Hey, it's a good job you have somebody to take Wally out. I remember I did ask a while ago if there was a fenced garden at your flat that he could go out into, in an emergency, and you never said :rolleyes:

;)

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:49 am

ive only got a little flagstone patio type thing outside my door that leads to parking space for three cars then a little lane that goes out onto the road.

he will go out there for a quick pee but not unless im with him :rolleyes: and certainly wont do anything else while he's out there !!

all i seem to have done is sleep today............. hope i dont pay the price tonite

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:06 am

Helen;1304026 wrote: ive only got a little flagstone patio type thing outside my door that leads to parking space for three cars then a little lane that goes out onto the road.

he will go out there for a quick pee but not unless im with him :rolleyes: and certainly wont do anything else while he's out there !!

all i seem to have done is sleep today............. hope i dont pay the price tonite

It's the stress catching up with you Mrs ! You'll be OK. I get times when all I want to do is sleep, and I keep nodding off in my chair! But when it is time to actually go to bed, I still sleep as normal. I do take a while to actually go to sleep, but I've been like that most of my life! :rolleyes:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:07 am

hello Gill and Helen!

Helen, its good that Wally wants you with him, if it was a cat like mine, they wouldn't care!:yh_rotfl

I would sleep to if there was nothing to do, just relax, this will take time.

Gill, I hope your hubby will be okay going out with his asthma.

horrible day.....rain and all weekend.:-5

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:12 pm

Hi all! Well today has been wonderfully sunny and quite warm! We've had a couple of days like that now.

Went out late morning, and the air seemed clean with no smell. Chris walked the dog late afternoon, still no smell and the air was clean and clear, though there was a haze on the horizon but that is quite normal on a sunny day here. This evening, when I took the dog out for his after meal comfort break, there was a very pungent catch-the-throat smell, it immediately affected my lungs. I hurried the dog back into the house as soon as I could, closed the couple of windows which were still open a little bit and told Chris not to venture outside.

I live right in the centre of England, and maybe I should have had the radio on for any local bulletins concerning any possible 'fall-out' from the volcano, but I didn't, so I wouldn't know if there had been any warnings or not! Oh well, I hope it is clear by tomorrow when Chris will be taking the dog for his walk. If it isn't, I'll have to nip to our local Wilko store and see if they've got any face masks for sale - I shall go in the car of course (with the windows closed

).

I really can't see how 'fall-out' can be avoided over the UK unless the wind changes direction. At the moment it is blowing south-west from Iceland which is bringing stuff over us. Planes are still grounded, and I would think will continue to be so whilst the volcano is still erupting and the wind is still blowing in basically a southerly direction. It is a concern that the adjacent volcano Matia does not get aggravated into activity, because that will really cause big problems! :-5

YouTube - Live Footage Iceland Volcano 2010 April

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:51 pm

G#Gill;1304277 wrote: Hi all! Well today has been wonderfully sunny and quite warm! We've had a couple of days like that now.

Went out late morning, and the air seemed clean with no smell. Chris walked the dog late afternoon, still no smell and the air was clean and clear, though there was a haze on the horizon but that is quite normal on a sunny day here. This evening, when I took the dog out for his after meal comfort break, there was a very pungent catch-the-throat smell, it immediately affected my lungs. I hurried the dog back into the house as soon as I could, closed the couple of windows which were still open a little bit and told Chris not to venture outside.

I live right in the centre of England, and maybe I should have had the radio on for any local bulletins concerning any possible 'fall-out' from the volcano, but I didn't, so I wouldn't know if there had been any warnings or not! Oh well, I hope it is clear by tomorrow when Chris will be taking the dog for his walk. If it isn't, I'll have to nip to our local Wilko store and see if they've got any face masks for sale - I shall go in the car of course (with the windows closed

).

I really can't see how 'fall-out' can be avoided over the UK unless the wind changes direction. At the moment it is blowing south-west from Iceland which is bringing stuff over us. Planes are still grounded, and I would think will continue to be so whilst the volcano is still erupting and the wind is still blowing in basically a southerly direction. It is a concern that the adjacent volcano Matia does not get aggravated into activity, because that will really cause big problems! :-5

YouTube - Live Footage Iceland Volcano 2010 April

It's also over France we heard, it must be awful not to be able to go outdoors if you have breathing problems.

Nice to have a warm day though, its been cold and it was freezing snow today.

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:42 am

mornin guys,

we are getting some fall out here from the volcano too, nothing much, just a very slight dusting on cars, windows etc.

cant understand some people complaining about the air ports being closed........... id rather lose a holiday than my life !!! you sure cant please everyone !!

had a rather fraught day yesterday, lost both my dog walkers, one cos shes going back to colledge tomorrow and one for reasons ive already said.

ive phoned a dog trust that walks pets for sick or elderly owners but they didnt get back to me:-2

tried several others but with no luck and im afraid at one point i considered the RSPCA............. because i couldnt see any other way out of it.

needless to say i was in bits by 8pm last night then the sister of my darts team mate said she would do it, its only monday thru to weds i need her then the colledge girl can do it again for four days............

had a visit from my boss on thursday............ got a feeling i HAVE lost my job, i just got the feeling that by reading between the lines, she had something to tell me but couldnt bring herself to add to my problems !!!!

i know i get over emotional and upset too quickly but its not hard when yer on yer own and yer problems seem so insurmountable !!!!

ive got to remember im now over HALF WAY throught this and IT WILL get better :rolleyes:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:13 am

Oh Helen, what else can go wrong?:rolleyes::-5:-5

I'm glad you finally found a dog walker.

I'm on my own, and I know how it feels, I'd be emotional as well.

Maybe your reading into your boss?

at least she finally came to see you.:-5

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:55 pm

Hi Odie and Helen, hope you've had a reasonable day today. Helen also I hope your day has been less fraught ! It must be very frustrating and worrying for you, but keep your chins up Mrs. Things will balance out - the bad, the good, yin and yan.

Hope Wally is sorted now, poor lad, I bet he is a bit confused with the change in his routine.

I managed to get some face masks (anti volcano dust), actually they were for DIY work, but better than nothing. The label said would not protect against very fine dust or toxic air pollution, so I may nip to a pharmacist and see what they've got, tomorrow. We have to go out anyway, taking Rex for his quarterly Cartrophen injection (arthritis), and the usual check all over. I will get the vet to be more thorough as Rex fell down three stairs last week - he tripped over his own feet ! He seems none the worse for his adventure though ! But best to be safe.

Hope you are OK Helen :-3

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:17 pm

Just cos I think he's luvly ! :-6:D

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Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:04 pm

G#Gill;1304478 wrote: Hi Odie and Helen, hope you've had a reasonable day today. Helen also I hope your day has been less fraught ! It must be very frustrating and worrying for you, but keep your chins up Mrs. Things will balance out - the bad, the good, yin and yan.

Hope Wally is sorted now, poor lad, I bet he is a bit confused with the change in his routine.

I managed to get some face masks (anti volcano dust), actually they were for DIY work, but better than nothing. The label said would not protect against very fine dust or toxic air pollution, so I may nip to a pharmacist and see what they've got, tomorrow. We have to go out anyway, taking Rex for his quarterly Cartrophen injection (arthritis), and the usual check all over. I will get the vet to be more thorough as Rex fell down three stairs last week - he tripped over his own feet ! He seems none the worse for his adventure though ! But best to be safe.

Hope you are OK Helen :-3

glad you got the mask Gill as its just not worth your health.

is it supposed to last much longer, the ash fog?

You told us he had fallen, good to get him thoroughly checked out.

awwwww poor Rex and his arthritis.

G#Gill;1304492 wrote: Just cos I think he's luvly ! :-6:D

awwwwwww he is lovely!:-4:

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:01 am

poor old rex, bless him, hope he gets better soon, comes to us all in the end......one thing about me and wallace.............. we are growing older and slowing down together :rolleyes:

he will be the last dog i have............ when you think ive had 55yrs of getting up early for school, work, bringing up my own family then work again and now taking him out, no matter what the weather or how i feel, i think its time to call a halt !!!

im not wishing his life away cos he's got me through some of the hardest times ive ever had to face and given me a purpose to get up and carry on in the mornings and for that i will always be grateful for him and his silly ways and antics that have kept me amused and sometimes crying with laughter !!!

as you can gather, im in a bit of a sombre mood today, ive had a big falling out with the eldest daughter.............

as you remember gill, i gave up a house move, a good job and a better life style cos she was worried that if anything happened to me, she couldnt get to me to help me.................

well it has happened............. and shes no where to be seen

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:14 am

Helen;1304534 wrote: poor old rex, bless him, hope he gets better soon, comes to us all in the end......one thing about me and wallace.............. we are growing older and slowing down together :rolleyes:

he will be the last dog i have............ when you think ive had 55yrs of getting up early for school, work, bringing up my own family then work again and now taking him out, no matter what the weather or how i feel, i think its time to call a halt !!!

im not wishing his life away cos he's got me through some of the hardest times ive ever had to face and given me a purpose to get up and carry on in the mornings and for that i will always be grateful for him and his silly ways and antics that have kept me amused and sometimes crying with laughter !!!

as you can gather, im in a bit of a sombre mood today, ive had a big falling out with the eldest daughter.............

as you remember gill, i gave up a house move, a good job and a better life style cos she was worried that if anything happened to me, she couldnt get to me to help me.................

well it has happened............. and shes no where to be seen

I would be the same, getting up early after so many years sometimes is just not fun.

I am sorry you had a falling out with your daughter, seems your having some really bad luck.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:39 am

Hi each ! Can't stop, gotta take Rex for his appointment ! Hope you're all bearing up under the strain ! It's cloudy and cooler today. Helen, thinking of you Mrs. :yh_flower:yh_flower :-6

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:05 am

G#Gill;1304566 wrote: Hi each ! Can't stop, gotta take Rex for his appointment ! Hope you're all bearing up under the strain ! It's cloudy and cooler today. Helen, thinking of you Mrs. :yh_flower:yh_flower :-6

Hi You!:yh_rotfl

awwwww poor Rex and his needle.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:59 am

Odie;1304593 wrote: Hi You!:yh_rotfl

awwwww poor Rex and his needle.

Oh our vet is a marvel at giving jabs! He's so quick and efficient. Rex doesn't feel a thing, well at least he certainly doesn't react at all! He had a check up and had his claws clipped - you have to be very careful because German Shepherd claws are black and the nerves cannot be seen, so it's a case of little and often! He always objects a bit to having this done because the vet has to lift his paws up and Rex gets a bit apprehensive! But, as I say, the vet is so very quick, so it is more or less over before it's begun !!! Rex obviously feels better for having his claws trimmed, as he walks better and is quite skittish. He jumped from the car with ease when we got back home ! :-6

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:01 pm

G#Gill;1304595 wrote: Oh our vet is a marvel at giving jabs! He's so quick and efficient. Rex doesn't feel a thing, well at least he certainly doesn't react at all! He had a check up and had his claws clipped - you have to be very careful because German Shepherd claws are black and the nerves cannot be seen, so it's a case of little and often! He always objects a bit to having this done because the vet has to lift his paws up and Rex gets a bit apprehensive! But, as I say, the vet is so very quick, so it is more or less over before it's begun !!! Rex obviously feels better for having his claws trimmed, as he walks better and is quite skittish. He jumped from the car with ease when we got back home ! :-6

That is the same as my little black cat Spike, I must be very careful.

I used to give our cat Bug two injections per day for his diabetics and I did it fast, I always tenderly rubbed the area afterward and gave him treats.

So happy to hear he had a good check up and he is okay after his fall.

I have mastered 80 nails in under 5 minutes!:yh_rotfl

I can't take any time with cats!:wah:

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:24 pm

You clever little speedy gonzalez you !

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:41 pm

G#Gill;1304664 wrote: You clever little speedy gonzalez you !

Jack ends up with a towel over his head.:sneaky:

Helen · Post by **Helen** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:35 am

hi guys,

its the first time ive been able to get on here today, its still not loading properly.

im begining to feel like a bag lady at the moment :rolleyes:

im having to wear jeans two sizes too big for me so i can get them over my plaster, my hair is an absolute train wreck and it feels like i need a two day soak in the tub to get me remotely clean again

but hey only 16 days to go now !!!!!

when i had to give my cat medication, i used to stuff her up the sleeve of an old coat :sneaky:

beleive me, it was like dealing with with the furry fiend from hell....... i bet i lost gallons of blood over the years i had her and ive still got a scar on the base of my thumb to proove it !!!!

she was a brown and black tabby, according to my vet you only get females in this colour, they are known psycho's and if you do happen to get a male, they are genetically impaired, eg ten toes on one foot or something silly.

she lives with a freind of mine now cos i couldnt have her at the chip shop for hygene reasons and it was right beside a very busy road, something she wasnt used to.

at 16yrs old, shes still going strong, bless her :-4

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:53 am

Hi Helen, I hope you are feeling a little easier today, even though your hair is straw, your skin is tramp-like and you have to wear marquees! :wah: Hey just over two weeks wooopppppeeeeeeee !

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:39 pm

Helen;1304821 wrote: hi guys,

its the first time ive been able to get on here today, its still not loading properly.

im begining to feel like a bag lady at the moment :rolleyes:

im having to wear jeans two sizes too big for me so i can get them over my plaster, my hair is an absolute train wreck and it feels like i need a two day soak in the tub to get me remotely clean again

but hey only 16 days to go now !!!!!

when i had to give my cat medication, i used to stuff her up the sleeve of an old coat :sneaky:

beleive me, it was like dealing with with the furry fiend from hell....... i bet i lost gallons of blood over the years i had her and ive still got a scar on the base of my thumb to proove it !!!!

she was a brown and black tabby, according to my vet you only get females in this colour, they are known psycho's and if you do happen to get a male, they are genetically impaired, eg ten toes on one foot or something silly.

she lives with a freind of mine now cos i couldnt have her at the chip shop for hygene reasons and it was right beside a very busy road, something she wasnt used to.

at 16yrs old, shes still going strong, bless her :-4

I should be a bag lady, they make more begging off the streets than us!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

It is hard to give cats their meds, I had a female tortoiseshell, Chopper, she was sooooooooo sweet! She was 18 when we had to say goodbye.

2 more weeks, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!:guitarist

G#Gill;1304825 wrote: Hi Helen, I hope you are feeling a little easier today, even though your hair is straw, your skin is tramp-like and you have to wear marquees! :wah: Hey just over two weeks wooopppppeeeeeeee !

that's just plain nasty!:yh_rotfl

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:26 am

Well Helen did say that was how she was at the moment :wah: Hi Odie, and Helen!

Helen, I felt decidedly down a few weeks ago - I looked in the mirror and saw this wrinkled old codger looking back at me, and when I turned round to see who it was, she'd gone !!!! Then I looked back in the mirror and the old fart had moved back again ! I realised, at this point, that it was ME !!!!!

How the heck can I look like that when I feel no older than early 20's? Well mentally anyway, physically I am slower and I cannot run upstairs any more, two at a time ! Nor can I run down the stairs 3 at a time ! :wah: Hey you needn't laugh, cos I did used to do that Mrs!

Used to make my mum laugh "You'll miss your step one of these days!" she used to say, but I never did!

The business about riding a horse, I discovered many years ago that I could not sit astride a non-Thelwell horse! Let alone a 'Thelwell' horse. Bit of a shock that, really, as I loved riding! That was 20 years ago! I'm still going strong though :wah: Another disappointment was when I rode pillion with my son on his 500 cc Honda, on a treasure hunt, I was in agony when I managed to get off the bike after an hour and a half! Brought it home to me that motorcycling was also out, so I had to part company with my own motorcycle! That was also about 20 years ago, and I'm still going strong :wah: I had to realise my limitations - a shock to the system, but you still carry on and make the best of a bad job.

It can be very frustrating, seeing others doing what you used to do with great abandon, but, as I say, life changes and you change with it ! I'm now the proud possessor of a 'shyte-off-a-shovel' superfast (4 mph :wah:) battery buggy which compensates for my lack of ability to walk distances - and it will split down to carry it in the car boot. It means that I can go for walks with hubby and dog and enjoy the country air. It also means that I am the baggage carrier for beach stuff for when we go away :wah: I will have to get a pic of me making like an 'on safari' porter, next time we visit Norfolk :yh_rotfl

With regard to cats and medication, I have never had to give medication to cats, thank goodness, as I know how they can claw you. At least, with dogs, a pill can be hidden in some grated cheese which most dogs seem to love, and although they are probably well aware that there is a 'foreign body' hidden in the enticing lump of grated cheese, their desire for the wonderful cheese outweighs their initial refusal to take the medicine! :wah:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:38 am

G#Gill;1304944 wrote: Well Helen did say that was how she was at the moment :wah: Hi Odie, and Helen!

Helen, I felt decidedly down a few weeks ago - I looked in the mirror and saw this wrinkled old codger looking back at me, and when I turned round to see who it was, she'd gone !!!! Then I looked back in the mirror and the old fart had moved back again ! I realised, at this point, that it was ME !!!!!

How the heck can I look like that when I feel no older than early 20's? Well mentally anyway, physically I am slower and I cannot run upstairs any more, two at a time ! Nor can I run down the stairs 3 at a time ! :wah: Hey you needn't laugh, cos I did used to do that Mrs!

Used to make my mum laugh "You'll miss your step one of these days!" she used to say, but I never did!

The business about riding a horse, I discovered many years ago that I could not sit astride a non-Thelwell horse! Let alone a 'Thelwell' horse. Bit of a shock that, really, as I loved riding! That was 20 years ago! I'm still going strong though :wah: Another disappointment was when I rode pillion with my son on his 500 cc Honda, on a treasure hunt, I was in agony when I managed to get off the bike after an hour and a half! Brought it home to me that motorcycling was also out, so I had to part company with my own motorcycle! That was also about 20 years ago, and I'm still going strong :wah: I had to realise my limitations - a shock to the system, but you still carry on and make the best of a bad job.

It can be very frustrating, seeing others doing what you used to do with great abandon, but, as I say, life changes and you change with it ! I'm now the proud possessor of a 'shyte-off-a-shovel' superfast (4 mph :wah:) battery buggy which compensates for my lack of ability to walk distances - and it will split down to carry it in the car boot. It means that I can go for walks with hubby and dog and enjoy the country air. It also means that I am the baggage carrier for beach stuff for when we go away :wah: I will have to get a pic of me making like an 'on safari' porter, next time we visit Norfolk :yh_rotfl

With regard to cats and medication, I have never had to give medication to cats, thank goodness, as I know how they can claw you. At least, with dogs, a pill can be hidden in some grated cheese which most dogs seem to love, and although they are probably well aware that there is a 'foreign body' hidden in the enticing lump of grated cheese, their desire for the wonderful cheese outweighs their initial refusal to take the medicine! :wah:

I can't do the things I used to either, I have to take my time at yardwork, weeding, mowing, planting, changing water from the fish tank means carrying large buckets and throwing them in the bathtub, that wrecks my back for a week.

Its the claws on a cat and their teeth.:sneaky:

plus they wiggle around constantly, but I'm used to it, been doing it for years.

when Jack really gets pissed and I mean he gets pissed, we throw a towel over his head to protect us both from his teeth.

Jazzy · Post by **Jazzy** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:41 am

Hello everyone and sorry I've not been here lately

Been very busy with other things including my new vending business. The business is doing better than I expected and it's a constant flow of ordering supplies and stocking machines. One machine has paid for itself already and I might get another one.

Helen: When I was in my below the knee cast the only thing I could wear were the bottoms to hospital scrubs. They were comfortable but sure as heck looked ugly :wah: One day I couldn't stand my hair not being washed so I knelt down over the tub to wash it. All went well until I couldn't get back up :wah: I had to crawl down the hall and grab the stair banister to get myself back up :-5

Glad you don't have much longer to deal with this and hope your feeling okay.:-4

Gill: I saw all that ash and it was nasty. All those poor people trapped and couldn't get flights out. What a horrible situation. I'm so glad Rex didn't suffer any injury from his fall down the stairs. He's just such a beautiful and precious dog. I hope you also are doing well. :-4

Odie: I'm still waiting for the fudge and coffee :wah: My cat, Babe, who is 14 years old now has gone deaf. She's healthy and happy but I have to watch now when I approach her so I don't scare her. Hope all is well with you. :-4

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:46 am

Hi Jazzy! So chuffed for you that your business is doing well - I expect it's the grounding of flights that has helped! People would be buying more snacks as they await developments :wah: But once the machines have been seen and the contents approved of, I'm sure they will continue to prove profitable for you. All the best for your continued success Mrs! Glad you are OK, and busy ! :-6:D

Jazzy · Post by **Jazzy** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:12 am

G#Gill;1304951 wrote: Hi Jazzy! So chuffed for you that your business is doing well - I expect it's the grounding of flights that has helped! People would be buying more snacks as they await developments :wah: But once the machines have been seen and the contents approved of, I'm sure they will continue to prove profitable for you. All the best for your continued success Mrs! Glad you are OK, and busy ! :-6:D

Thank you so much Gill! The machines at the airport are doing great and so is the one I've placed in the bowling alley. The bowling alley hosts a lot of childrens birthday parties. They did not offer ice cream there so I put an ice cream machine in. The machine is very cool because there is a robot and a screen you can watch. Once you put your money in and make a selection, the robot arm goes and gets your ice cream. The children just love watching the robot arm and they buy a lot of ice cream :wah: