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Odie;1222379 wrote: Its good you don't have to see him with everything you have told me.

I'm shocked that she still wants to see him......hoping she doesn't plan these visits when the baby is a child.
It's a very difficult situation. Half me wants to see him because he's my nephew and i love him but the other half is something else.

It's difficult with the baby also. It's something the family has discussed in depth. What if his baby grows up and then resents his mother for keeping him from knowing who his dad was? What if he finds out about his dad when he's much older? The shock could be unbearable. There is no doubt that the first thing my nephew will go looking for when everything is alright, is his son. There are family liason officers in the prison who are very good at this sort of thing to advise and help.

oscar;1222389 wrote: It's a very difficult situation. Half me wants to see him because he's my nephew and i love him but the other half is something else.

It's difficult with the baby also. It's something the family has discussed in depth. What if his baby grows up and then resents his mother for keeping him from knowing who his dad was? What if he finds out about his dad when he's much older? The shock could be unbearable. There is no doubt that the first thing my nephew will go looking for when everything is alright, is his son. There are family liason officers in the prison who are very good at this sort of thing to advise and help.


but its not good for a child to see his dad in jail.

and he will be in there for quite some time.

and even if he comes looking years from now.........to bad, so sad..

you must focus on what he actually did to another human being.

Odie;1222423 wrote: but its not good for a child to see his dad in jail.

and he will be in there for quite some time.

and even if he comes looking years from now.........to bad, so sad..

you must focus on what he actually did to another human being. Yes, it's very difficult. We have to try to imagine what his son will want for the future. The family liason at the prison heartedly encourage contact. Other wise dad will come out a complete stranger to his son. To be honest, i'm just pleased that the ultimate decision is down to the mother of the baby. We just support her in what she thinks is right. If she decides to end contact then we will support her with that also.

Just off to feed foxes.

just finished eating, felt good to finally make a home made meal.

Odie;1222470 wrote: just finished eating, felt good to finally make a home made meal.
I've just given four lamb chops to the foxes :yh_rotfl Along with with their usual chicken and eggs.

Off to bed now Joan. have to get up early to pick baby up.

Have a good night. laters.:)

oscar;1222494 wrote: I've just given four lamb chops to the foxes :yh_rotfl Along with with their usual chicken and eggs.

Off to bed now Joan. have to get up early to pick baby up.

Have a good night. laters.:)


they eat better than me!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

good luck tomorrow babe.

xo

Hi Julie and good evening your time......

so how was your visit today?

Odie;1222654 wrote: Hi Julie and good evening your time......

so how was your visit today? Tiring :wah:I just sat down. It was a 5 hour round trip to pick baby up and the weather was foul. The visit went well but strained, if you know what i mean?

What are you up to tooday?

oscar;1222716 wrote: Tiring :wah:I just sat down. It was a 5 hour round trip to pick baby up and the weather was foul. The visit went well but strained, if you know what i mean?

What are you up to tooday?


5 hours?

maybe someone else can take her next time..and share.

not much today kiddo, scrubbed the doors, floors, bought 2 guppies..

trying to cut the grass now for a week, but it rains everyday.



oh yes........and watched your apes!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1222792 wrote: 5 hours?

maybe someone else can take her next time..and share.

not much today kiddo, scrubbed the doors, floors, bought 2 guppies..

trying to cut the grass now for a week, but it rains everyday.



oh yes........and watched your apes!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl 2 more Guppies?? Didn't you have babie Guppy recently?

We don't mind doing it for her. She's only 17 yrs old and needs help.

oscar;1222848 wrote: 2 more Guppies?? Didn't you have babie Guppy recently?

We don't mind doing it for her. She's only 17 yrs old and needs help.


I had baby guppies, but only 4, as the others were already eaten......these babies didn't survive......as I had multiple problems in the tank.

Odie;1222857 wrote: I had baby guppies, but only 4, as the others were already eaten......these babies didn't survive......as I had multiple problems in the tank.
I hope you have more luck this times Odds.

I just found a message on my answer machine from Roger (OM)... he's not well Bless.

I'll be around a bit more tomorrow :-4

Note to self : New black dresses and baby sick do not go together

oscar;1222860 wrote: I hope you have more luck this times Odds.

I just found a message on my answer machine from Roger (OM)... he's not well Bless.

I'll be around a bit more tomorrow :-4

Note to self : New black dresses and baby sick do not go together


awwwwwww our poor freind OM, I hope he gets better soon..

you wore the black dress you wore to that restaurant a few weeks ago?

hope you washed it asap.

Odie;1222871 wrote: awwwwwww our poor freind OM, I hope he gets better soon..

you wore the black dress you wore to that restaurant a few weeks ago?

hope you washed it asap. No, different dress :wah:

I got my Bamboo plants today, they are just lush. Now i have to research how to care for them properly. I have never had Bamboo before although i don't think my bro does anything special with his.

More rain and more rain :-5 Everywhere i go...... damn rain :-5

What are you up to Hun?

oscar;1222996 wrote: No, different dress :wah:

I got my Bamboo plants today, they are just lush. Now i have to research how to care for them properly. I have never had Bamboo before although i don't think my bro does anything special with his.

More rain and more rain :-5 Everywhere i go...... damn rain :-5

What are you up to Hun?


that much rain everyday would do me in......how depressing!:-5:-5

mowed the lawns!:-5:-5

did grocery shopping and took a rest!:D

Odie;1223065 wrote: that much rain everyday would do me in......how depressing!:-5:-5

mowed the lawns!:-5:-5

did grocery shopping and took a rest!:D Yep, the mud being brought in by the dogs is depresing. Those poor Gorilla's !!!

Glad you had a rest. I'm about to have s a bowl of mussels in white wine sauce :-4

oscar;1223069 wrote: Yep, the mud being brought in by the dogs is depresing. Those poor Gorilla's !!!

Glad you had a rest. I'm about to have s a bowl of mussels in white wine sauce :-4


I have to have a rest everyday.......unfortunately!:mad:

I know the mess a dog can make when it rains out, my son and his wife have 2 dogs, bath, bath bath!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1223071 wrote: I have to have a rest everyday.......unfortunately!:mad:

I know the mess a dog can make when it rains out, my son and his wife have 2 dogs, bath, bath bath!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl I feel so cruel confining them to the hall but if you could see the mud, you would sympathise. No point in bathing them as they go straight back out in the garden :-5 I might get all three out for a good yomp in the countryside tomorrow, rain or not. It'll tire therm out then hopefully they will want to sleep more. Mulder digs big holes in the garden, waits until they have filled up with rain and then leaps in them :-5

oscar;1223076 wrote: I feel so cruel confining them to the hall but if you could see the mud, you would sympathise. No point in bathing them as they go straight back out in the garden :-5 I might get all three out for a good yomp in the countryside tomorrow, rain or not. It'll tire therm out then hopefully they will want to sleep more. Mulder digs big holes in the garden, waits until they have filled up with rain and then leaps in them :-5


omg...............:-5:-5:-5

so glad I have cats.:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1223080 wrote: omg...............:-5:-5:-5

so glad I have cats.:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl My cats refuse to go out here :wah:

oscar;1223099 wrote: My cats refuse to go out here :wah:


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

mine are indoor cats!:wah::wah::wah:

Odie;1223151 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

mine are indoor cats!:wah::wah::wah: If this rain keeps up, mine will be :yh_rotfl

I have just had the shyte frightened out of me. Feeding the foxes in

pitch black, i had the flashlight on the main group. I felt something brush against my leg in the dark and it was the pack leader but he frightened the life out out of me for a second :wah:

oscar;1223176 wrote: If this rain keeps up, mine will be :yh_rotfl



:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



I have just had the shyte frightened out of me. Feeding the foxes in

pitch black, i had the flashlight on the main group. I felt something brush against my leg in the dark and it was the pack leader but he frightened the life out out of me for a second :wah:


told you he would come to you eventually.



yes..that would scare the crap out of me to!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Nomad;1223215 wrote:


oh god, were sexy!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1223218 wrote: oh god, were sexy!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl I want your glasses :wah:

I was going out for the day today, but now have to sit indoors awaiting the phone. If i get the yes, i will have to dash away to do a live interview today. I'm not posting who it's with or where just incase :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky: but i've done them before so i shouldn't be as nervous today.

It's funny because i was chatting with some-one quite prominent of late when i was about to do some-thing very stupid and he said that 'with my profile' it would be foolish. I thought that was hysterical at the time. 'My Profile' :yh_rotfl Yeah...... I wish!!!

I also had a visit last night from one of the election candidates round here wanting to do something that sounds quite exciting. I can't tell you any more here but will e mail you Joan. Yes, checking who's on line...... just as well we all stick to e mail.

The sun is out at the moment here so we'll see how how long that lasts. My bro wants me to cover some race meetings very soon so pray for good weather for me won't you? There is nothing worse that standing on a race-course soaking wet and cold.

oscar;1223284 wrote: I want your glasses :wah:

I was going out for the day today, but now have to sit indoors awaiting the phone. If i get the yes, i will have to dash away to do a live interview today. I'm not posting who it's with or where just incase :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky: but i've done them before so i shouldn't be as nervous today.

It's funny because i was chatting with some-one quite prominent of late when i was about to do some-thing very stupid and he said that 'with my profile' it would be foolish. I thought that was hysterical at the time. 'My Profile' :yh_rotfl Yeah...... I wish!!!

I also had a visit last night from one of the election candidates round here wanting to do something that sounds quite exciting. I can't tell you any more here but will e mail you Joan. Yes, checking who's on line...... just as well we all stick to e mail.

The sun is out at the moment here so we'll see how how long that lasts. My bro wants me to cover some race meetings very soon so pray for good weather for me won't you? There is nothing worse that standing on a race-course soaking wet and cold.




I want your lips!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



I love it when a plan comes together.:sneaky:



yes, please us my email address!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

since yours is finally working......did you not get mine?



off to the docs soon..........

Odie;1223316 wrote: I want your lips!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



I love it when a plan comes together.:sneaky:



yes, please us my email address!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

since yours is finally working......did you not get mine?



off to the docs soon.......... I want those lips as well :wah: just goes to show that Nomad spies on us :sneaky:

I will try my e mail...... i think the firewall is sorted now so it should be okay. I haven't got your e mail though, when did you send it?

Good luck at the docs, ,make sure you let me know how you got on won't you?

oscar;1223323 wrote: I want those lips as well :wah: just goes to show that Nomad spies on us :sneaky:

I will try my e mail...... i think the firewall is sorted now so it should be okay. I haven't got your e mail though, when did you send it?

Good luck at the docs, ,make sure you let me know how you got on won't you?


I think Nomad is Big Brother!:sneaky:

I sent my email over a week ago.



ever thing went great with the thyroid doc..no lumps.....no meds needed.:guitarist:guitarist

Odie;1223444 wrote: I think Nomad is Big Brother!:sneaky:

I sent my email over a week ago.



ever thing went great with the thyroid doc..no lumps.....no meds needed.:guitarist:guitarist
Yes, definately Nomad is working for the government.

Great news Joan, you must be really relieved. I'm so pleased and relieved for you.

oscar;1223538 wrote: Yes, definately Nomad is working for the government.

Great news Joan, you must be really relieved. I'm so pleased and relieved for you.


And I'm the Big Duck...watch out.:wah:

qsducks;1223542 wrote: And I'm the Big Duck...watch out.:wah: :wah:

How are you today and have you got any Philli Cheese spare you could lob over The Atlantic to me?

oscar;1223538 wrote: Yes, definately Nomad is working for the government.

Great news Joan, you must be really relieved. I'm so pleased and relieved for you.


I think Nomad is an alien under-cover.:sneaky:

and thanks for caring!:-4

Odie;1223626 wrote: I think Nomad is an alien under-cover.:sneaky:

and thanks for caring!:-4


what's for dinner tonight?

Odie;1223720 wrote: what's for dinner tonight? Well the foxes have got pizza :wah:

As for dinner.......... what ever Mr O cooks me :wah:

oscar;1223864 wrote: Well the foxes have got pizza :wah:

As for dinner.......... what ever Mr O cooks me :wah:


wish I had pizza!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

those fox's eat to well!:wah::wah:

Odie;1223889 wrote: wish I had pizza!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

those fox's eat to well!:wah::wah: The take-away got a hoax call tonight. They get them now and then and you just can't tell. it's usually kids ordering pizza for some-one they don't like. A waste of takings for our friend but it can't be re-cooked ore re-sold so the foxes get it :wah:

Oh well, and so to bed. Long day and i hope to see the Gorilla's tomorrow. :-4

Have a good night Joan.

oscar;1223892 wrote: The take-away got a hoax call tonight. They get them now and then and you just can't tell. it's usually kids ordering pizza for some-one they don't like. A waste of takings for our friend but it can't be re-cooked ore re-sold so the foxes get it :wah:

Oh well, and so to bed. Long day and i hope to see the Gorilla's tomorrow. :-4

Have a good night Joan.


kids used to pull those pranks here.....actually I was one of them........



I'm just going to bed now to as its close to 11.

hope you get to see the gorillzas and have a great day Julie!

Odie;1223926 wrote: kids used to pull those pranks here.....actually I was one of them........



I'm just going to bed now to as its close to 11.

hope you get to see the gorillzas and have a great day Julie!
We got up early to rain again but it did clear later in the day. I may not post much tonight as i'm exhausted after shopping all day :wah:

We are definately going to see the Gorilla's tomorrow and will be at the enclosure around 3 pm in the afternoon.

Pete has spent time today spraying every inch of the car. After bringing home the bamboo that i noticed came from South America, he found a very strange looking small spider in the car unlike anything British that he's seen. It didn't bother me but he's convinced it's something nasty come in with the bamboo and is taking no chances :wah:

oscar;1224126 wrote: We got up early to rain again but it did clear later in the day. I may not post much tonight as i'm exhausted after shopping all day :wah:

We are definately going to see the Gorilla's tomorrow and will be at the enclosure around 3 pm in the afternoon.

Pete has spent time today spraying every inch of the car. After bringing home the bamboo that i noticed came from South America, he found a very strange looking small spider in the car unlike anything British that he's seen. It didn't bother me but he's convinced it's something nasty come in with the bamboo and is taking no chances :wah:


you can't be to sure what will come from other counties, I would have done the same, just in case.......

shopping all day, well, nice for some!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

take your camera tomorrow!

Odie;1224162 wrote: you can't be to sure what will come from other counties, I would have done the same, just in case.......

shopping all day, well, nice for some!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

take your camera tomorrow!
Yeah shopping :guitarist:guitarist:guitarist:guitarist

Will do and i hope we get some real good close up's to post for all to see.

oscar;1224177 wrote: Yeah shopping :guitarist:guitarist:guitarist:guitarist

Will do and i hope we get some real good close up's to post for all to see.


now if you just lived closer, I could have tagged along shopping...........:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1224178 wrote: now if you just lived closer, I could have tagged along shopping...........:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl It would be fun and of course, we would have to do lunch :wah: Part of the fun of shopping...... must have lunch.

Just going off for a while but be back later. X

oscar;1224182 wrote: It would be fun and of course, we would have to do lunch :wah: Part of the fun of shopping...... must have lunch.

Just going off for a while but be back later. X


you can take me to that awesome restaurant your friends took you to where you sat outside......since your paying:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



I'm off to.......watering the flowers.

ttyl............

Odie;1224185 wrote: you can take me to that awesome restaurant your friends took you to where you sat outside......since your paying:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



I'm off to.......watering the flowers.

ttyl............


same as last night.....off to water the flowers!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1224718 wrote: same as last night.....off to water the flowers!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
We have had enough rain to keep them watered non-stop.

How are you otherwise?

oscar;1224850 wrote: We have had enough rain to keep them watered non-stop.

How are you otherwise?


it was a long weekend here........glad its over.

Odie;1224857 wrote: it was a long weekend here........glad its over. Good morning.

She has gone out this morning to see her nephew.

Peter Lake;1224949 wrote: Good morning.

She has gone out this morning to see her nephew.


why thanks Peter, does she every stop?

Odie;1225001 wrote: why thanks Peter, does she every stop? :wah: I'm back.

I had a twinge of sympathy for him as you know how it is? When they first go in prison, everyone visits and then they tail off. We have to remember he is still a child although he's in a very adult world right now. I can not go into details due to Sub Judice law pending his trial but forensics have turned up something that shows a new angle involving the Co-defendants. All we can do is give him the benifit of the doubt until his trial by jury and a verdict is reached. He was asking for comics today. At least there is one thing..... he's not blaming his friends or crying 'mistaken identity'. He accepts his part and has been totally honest with the police.

What a horrid day here? Rain Rain Rain again. What's it like your end? How are you doing?