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Novelty;445692 wrote: Time is a big part of the Determination, we cant messure it precisely yet, this is the meaning of chaos what ever number you come up with it will always be wrong simply becouse we cant messure below sub atomic, so time is a peception and it is language that controlls us.....


We can measure down to subatomic actually, just we cant determine the exact position and velocity of particles such as electrons due to the uncertaintly principal. Yes it does appear that some aspect of time is perception based, however, we all share exactly the same perception for some reason as does all the matter on earth. We can make general assumptions about time, but they are conventions and until or if we ever work out what the nature of time is then thats what they will remain. But they are highly useful assumptions though.

Galbally;445836 wrote: We can measure down to subatomic actually, just we cant determine the exact position and velocity of particles such as electrons due to the uncertaintly principal. Yes it does appear that some aspect of time is perception based, however, we all share exactly the same perception for some reason as does all the matter on earth. We can make general assumptions about time, but they are conventions and until or if we ever work out what the nature of time is then thats what they will remain. But they are highly useful assumptions though.


I like to think of it as nothing more than life...We all base time on a simple rotation of the earth, but that acts only as common ground so that we all can work together as a society, which brings me to my philosophy, that in order for time as we no it now to exist, the entire universe would have to be moving, but because I believe that there is no end to the universe, I believe there is no end to "time", thus making our own perception based on experiences nothing more than life as we know it. This would have to mean that no one would ever know the true meaning of time unless they lived forever. (My philosophy)

Hamster;446568 wrote: K..is that because we only ever see our little snap shot?? Our lifetime? Is that what you mean??

If so this goes back to my previous wish to step out of time somehow and observe it from the outside...that would be amazing...


I mean that in order for us to have an association with time there cannot be an end to anything...We all use a simple rotation just as a means of order throughout our society. For instance, in the past the Earths rotation was slower and the days were shorter in comparison to our 24 hour days that we see now...Take the earths rotation out of the equation and what do you have? What is time then? We cannot base our age down to the what we have derived our seconds from according to how many "hours" we so choose to create. All that we would know is how we would feel, how we would base our feelings on what we believe time to be as opposed to having an "age"... This is why I believe that everything in the universe would have to be moving in order to establish the presence of time, otherwise there would be no end to the universe, as well as no end of time. (Just a philosophy)

Hamster;447446 wrote: So..if I understand your philosophy correctly K...we could all be ageing differently if we compared our passage of time to something other than the hours, days and weeks etc? This is only based on the rotations of the earth etc so I suppose if the earth were to stop spinning (theoretically of course) there would have to be a radical alteration in the amount we were ageing? Or at least our perception on how we are ageing??


We would age the same(considering that the rotation doesn't have an effect on that), but we wouldn't think about ageing like we do now...perhaps perception, but I rather think of it as not being worried as much until it hits you as opposed to thinking about it and dreading it based on our own categorizing...

This all adds to me believing that if our feelings didn't change, time wouldn't change either,..how could it, if you feel the same? Time is in how we feel, not by watching the sun go around followed by the moon, thus creating more questions about how we think we should feel in the future. But without the rotation, what is the future? :wah:

Do you ever cough up furballs ?

Hamster;450232 wrote: Day 13 and I have just fallen off the sobriety wagon!! :-5


Well when you start dipping into the aftershave...

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It's time to get...















alot more bottles of it, because it would take alot of aftershave to get drunk.

Hamster;450326 wrote: :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl I am glad to say I am not quite that bad yet that I have to drink aftershave!!


Oh no?



Try it some time...



It's a little rough,..but it's not so bad after the first few bottles...





















Just leave the cheap stuff alone. That stuff is enough to choke a dead horse.

Hamster;450340 wrote: Ok K...at the end of the month it gets tight here so I may have to!!



Can you recommend any good brands?? :wah:


The cheaper the better, more alcohol in cheap aftershave than expensive stuff, of course being a chemist you could aways try and work out a homemade way of converting the methanol in white spirits (cheap) into ethanol (pure, lab grade alcohol to those with chemistry degrees), then put a couple of drops in your pint, you'd be well sauced, of course if you didn't do it right or but more than a very small amount of pure alcohol in (which is of course highly toixic as you know) you would be dead, so better stick to the Jacobs creek.