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Not a problem. I expect that and it has no real effect on me. That's life when one has a stand s/he feels s/he must take.
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They've never asked for a chat with me.........I'd love to chat. I like a good challenging religious/thpiwitual debate.
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After checking into more links on this subject today, I realized a few things.
They like to work on couples, mostly, and have memorized DH's work schedule. That is scary. We can't change it without an of God, and we'd rather not, as it gives us long weekends without taking vacation time.
Also, I was shocked to discover they keep records on all their contacts! I darn sure don't want this bunch having my name or any info.
I'm going to keep this in mind if they return, and use it when I phone the police. By my way of thinking, if they know DH's schedule, they're definitely watching us, right?
They like to work on couples, mostly, and have memorized DH's work schedule. That is scary. We can't change it without an of God, and we'd rather not, as it gives us long weekends without taking vacation time.
Also, I was shocked to discover they keep records on all their contacts! I darn sure don't want this bunch having my name or any info.
I'm going to keep this in mind if they return, and use it when I phone the police. By my way of thinking, if they know DH's schedule, they're definitely watching us, right?
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Simple. They like to come by early, on a Tuesday morning. DH actually works alternate shifts, so every other month, he works nights. They only come those months when he works nights.
It can't be as simple as they see both vehicles under the carport, as he always has Thursday and Friday off as well, and both vehicles are parked those days.
If they don't have his schedule down pat, why don't they just stop by anytime his vehicle is here?
I'll keep all this in mind, as I said. It can only get sillier.
It can't be as simple as they see both vehicles under the carport, as he always has Thursday and Friday off as well, and both vehicles are parked those days.
If they don't have his schedule down pat, why don't they just stop by anytime his vehicle is here?
I'll keep all this in mind, as I said. It can only get sillier.
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DH is installing a wireless camera this weekend. We can actually put it inside, in the window, and it won't be seen right away. The receiver will hook up to the tv, and we can record what we need to.
I feel silly for doing this, but the fact is, they won't stay away. :-5 It's like having a "kick me" sign on your back, LOL.:yh_eyerol
I feel silly for doing this, but the fact is, they won't stay away. :-5 It's like having a "kick me" sign on your back, LOL.:yh_eyerol
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Ciao, Bella!;547549 wrote: DH is installing a wireless camera this weekend. We can actually put it inside, in the window, and it won't be seen right away. The receiver will hook up to the tv, and we can record what we need to.
I feel silly for doing this, but the fact is, they won't stay away. :-5 It's like having a "kick me" sign on your back, LOL.:yh_eyerol
Sorry for sounding stupid, but why are you recording them, to show the police? What would they do?
Does 5 visits in 10 months count as harrasement there?
I feel silly for doing this, but the fact is, they won't stay away. :-5 It's like having a "kick me" sign on your back, LOL.:yh_eyerol
Sorry for sounding stupid, but why are you recording them, to show the police? What would they do?
Does 5 visits in 10 months count as harrasement there?
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SuzyB;547556 wrote: Sorry for sounding stupid, but why are you recording them, to show the police? What would they do?
Does 5 visits in 10 months count as harrasement there?
Actually, the police want to know if I'm getting repeat visits from one or more JW, which I have been. If I record their visit, I can see who else is a repeater, and my case is stronger. (Plus, my camera has sound. I can get any convo on tape.)
What would you do if you had five visits in ten months from unwelcome people?
Does 5 visits in 10 months count as harrasement there?
Actually, the police want to know if I'm getting repeat visits from one or more JW, which I have been. If I record their visit, I can see who else is a repeater, and my case is stronger. (Plus, my camera has sound. I can get any convo on tape.)
What would you do if you had five visits in ten months from unwelcome people?
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Ciao, Bella!;548137 wrote: Actually, the police want to know if I'm getting repeat visits from one or more JW, which I have been. If I record their visit, I can see who else is a repeater, and my case is stronger. (Plus, my camera has sound. I can get any convo on tape.)
What would you do if you had five visits in ten months from unwelcome people?
The Jehovah's Witnessess will not come on my property even though I would more than welcome a visit from them.
What would you do if you had five visits in ten months from unwelcome people?
The Jehovah's Witnessess will not come on my property even though I would more than welcome a visit from them.
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I did try that, as a sort of last resort. The phone just rang and rang. No one picked up, and there was no voice mail.
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As a rule, I do not discourage/turn people away from my door. We have friends that drop by often, so it's not as though we don't have anyone over.
However, I rather like having the option of choosing who comes to my door. Rest assured, I'd act the same way if it was a criminal.
However, I rather like having the option of choosing who comes to my door. Rest assured, I'd act the same way if it was a criminal.
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Ciao, Bella!;548247 wrote: As a rule, I do not discourage/turn people away from my door. We have friends that drop by often, so it's not as though we don't have anyone over.
However, I rather like having the option of choosing who comes to my door. Rest assured, I'd act the same way if it was a criminal.
When the JW's come to your door just tell them that you are an apostate.
They'll never come back
However, I rather like having the option of choosing who comes to my door. Rest assured, I'd act the same way if it was a criminal.
When the JW's come to your door just tell them that you are an apostate.
They'll never come back
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i do groan when i see them coming up the path , but i dont see the big deal , i just nicely say look i'm really not iterested , they go away end of , these guys really believe that they saving you , they dont do their door knocking to earn money or annoy you , although i know it can 
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[QUOTE=Ciao, Bella!;548137]Actually, the police want to know if I'm getting repeat visits from one or more JW, which I have been. If I record their visit, I can see who else is a repeater, and my case is stronger. (Plus, my camera has sound. I can get any convo on tape.)
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To be honest I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist over it, I would just open the door and say "No thank you, not interested", think I would find that less stressful to spend 2 minutes opening the door 6 times a year, than all the hassle involving the police and installing cameras.
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To be honest I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist over it, I would just open the door and say "No thank you, not interested", think I would find that less stressful to spend 2 minutes opening the door 6 times a year, than all the hassle involving the police and installing cameras.
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I guess I'm funny, liking my peace. It's not the repetition, so much as it is the fact that someone who belongs to a cult thinks I do not know my own mind and heart where faith is concerned.
BTW, the knickers aren't twisted, but the wearer sometimes is!:)
BTW, the knickers aren't twisted, but the wearer sometimes is!:)
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Ciao, Bella!;548586 wrote: I guess I'm funny, liking my peace. It's not the repetition, so much as it is the fact that someone who belongs to a cult thinks I do not know my own mind and heart where faith is concerned.
BTW, the knickers aren't twisted, but the wearer sometimes is!:)
:wah: :wah:
BTW, the knickers aren't twisted, but the wearer sometimes is!:)
:wah: :wah:
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Ciao, it sounds like you need a vacation and an appointment with a therapist, instead of installing videocameras to catch a couple of visitors who are only doing what they believe is helping.
And stalking you by only coming on the certain days? Seriously, perhaps you should look at more viable and less-completely-paranoid explainations for this instead of a "cult" tracking you. I think you are turning this all into something it is not in your own head, and am actually getting concerned for your health.
Schweet, you really sound like you could do with some unwinding as well. Beating random people up if they step on your sidewalk? There is something called being charged with assault, and if one of those people you have been targeting ever had a notion to seek legal advice, you'd probably land in a whole lot of hot water.
Unfortunately we don't live in the 1950's, and beating people just because you don't like their beliefs, or have resentment for what one particular group of people did to someone you care for, isn't justified reason for just attacking innocent parties. It sounds like you need to really work on getting over your anger issues and what happened to your family before you end up in trouble over the reprocussions.
Just my 2 cents, sorry for posting in this if the topic has died and no one wants it brought back up.
Magenta and MrsK, I'd like to sincerely appologise for the comments of some people here that may have contributed to your leaving FG. You do not have to go, as many find you both a breath of fresh air and a very welcome addition to the forum. It would be a shame to let the actions of few, stop you from enjoying the rest of your friends who truly love hearing what you have to say on a daily basis. I wish you luck in all things, and hope you know there are many who will miss your presence.
And stalking you by only coming on the certain days? Seriously, perhaps you should look at more viable and less-completely-paranoid explainations for this instead of a "cult" tracking you. I think you are turning this all into something it is not in your own head, and am actually getting concerned for your health.
Schweet, you really sound like you could do with some unwinding as well. Beating random people up if they step on your sidewalk? There is something called being charged with assault, and if one of those people you have been targeting ever had a notion to seek legal advice, you'd probably land in a whole lot of hot water.
Unfortunately we don't live in the 1950's, and beating people just because you don't like their beliefs, or have resentment for what one particular group of people did to someone you care for, isn't justified reason for just attacking innocent parties. It sounds like you need to really work on getting over your anger issues and what happened to your family before you end up in trouble over the reprocussions.
Just my 2 cents, sorry for posting in this if the topic has died and no one wants it brought back up.
Magenta and MrsK, I'd like to sincerely appologise for the comments of some people here that may have contributed to your leaving FG. You do not have to go, as many find you both a breath of fresh air and a very welcome addition to the forum. It would be a shame to let the actions of few, stop you from enjoying the rest of your friends who truly love hearing what you have to say on a daily basis. I wish you luck in all things, and hope you know there are many who will miss your presence.
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Yeah, you're right. I'm sitting here letting paranoia run rampant. Got nothing better to do.
In that vein, let's say I peddle dope. Five times in ten months, I've hit you up to buy drugs from me. What would you do/say/think?
Could I reasonably call your reaction paranoia?
I believe in eating peanut butter, yet have a friend who is allergic to nuts. Should I push my belief off onto her?
It may apples and oranges, but there it is.
In that vein, let's say I peddle dope. Five times in ten months, I've hit you up to buy drugs from me. What would you do/say/think?
Could I reasonably call your reaction paranoia?
I believe in eating peanut butter, yet have a friend who is allergic to nuts. Should I push my belief off onto her?
It may apples and oranges, but there it is.
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SuzyB;548553 wrote: [quote=Ciao, Bella!;548137]Actually, the police want to know if I'm getting repeat visits from one or more JW, which I have been. If I record their visit, I can see who else is a repeater, and my case is stronger. (Plus, my camera has sound. I can get any convo on tape.)
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SuzyB
To be honest I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist over it, I would just open the door and say "No thank you, not interested", think I would find that less stressful to spend 2 minutes opening the door 6 times a year, than all the hassle involving the police and installing cameras.
Once on a TV comedy here in USA, the lead character opens his front door, & standing there are 2 JW's. They start their speil about how to get into Heaven, & then the character interupts them with his question.
"Will you be there"? They say why yes we will, & then the character quickly says well then forget it, & shuts the door on them!
It was sooooo funny, I guess you had to see it. But I will remember that the next time JW's ring my door bell, & I may just do the same!!! :wah: :rolleyes:
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To be honest I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist over it, I would just open the door and say "No thank you, not interested", think I would find that less stressful to spend 2 minutes opening the door 6 times a year, than all the hassle involving the police and installing cameras.
Once on a TV comedy here in USA, the lead character opens his front door, & standing there are 2 JW's. They start their speil about how to get into Heaven, & then the character interupts them with his question.
"Will you be there"? They say why yes we will, & then the character quickly says well then forget it, & shuts the door on them!
It was sooooo funny, I guess you had to see it. But I will remember that the next time JW's ring my door bell, & I may just do the same!!!
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Ciao, Bella!;536921 wrote: I do not mean to insult anyone here, but I am more than fedup with Jehovah's Witnesses. 
We've been in our new house ten months. Every two months, like clock work, my doorbell rings, and there they stand, with fake smiles. I've informed them over and over that we're members of another faith, and are not interested. The last time, I let it be known I will call the police if they come back. :yh_tongue
Yesterday morning, they came back. I let them know I'm beyond aggravated with them, and told them to leave, adding the request for them to wipe my soil off their shoes when they left my property.
What does it take to get through to them?:-5 I've a sticker of our faith on the front door, and I know they see and recognize it for what it is. The worst part of their bi-monthly visits is they wake up DH, who works nights.
I should booby-trap the doorbell. :sneaky: Or at the very least, put up a sign warning them away.
I haven't read the replies you've already had yet but what you should do it put a note on your front door saying, 'Blood Donor'. That seems to work!
We've been in our new house ten months. Every two months, like clock work, my doorbell rings, and there they stand, with fake smiles. I've informed them over and over that we're members of another faith, and are not interested. The last time, I let it be known I will call the police if they come back. :yh_tongue Yesterday morning, they came back. I let them know I'm beyond aggravated with them, and told them to leave, adding the request for them to wipe my soil off their shoes when they left my property.
What does it take to get through to them?:-5 I've a sticker of our faith on the front door, and I know they see and recognize it for what it is. The worst part of their bi-monthly visits is they wake up DH, who works nights.
I should booby-trap the doorbell. :sneaky: Or at the very least, put up a sign warning them away.
I haven't read the replies you've already had yet but what you should do it put a note on your front door saying, 'Blood Donor'. That seems to work!
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Cars, that's brilliant! I must have missed that show. I may use it myself, for a laugh.
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I really don't think anyone here has been attacking personally those of our number who belong to the Jehovah Witness organization. Certainly I have never attacked any of those folks here personally.
Fortunately this is a free speech society and when I feel it necessary to comment on some aspect of that society whether it involves religion, politics or sex I will do so.
As a Christian pluralist I have been attacked many times but I never take it personally. At that level it is a personal choice.
I like the blood donor sign. Transfusions have saved both my wife's life and mine and if necessary they will again.
I would sincerely hope that those folks have not left. Their contributions are welcome and important.
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Fortunately this is a free speech society and when I feel it necessary to comment on some aspect of that society whether it involves religion, politics or sex I will do so.
As a Christian pluralist I have been attacked many times but I never take it personally. At that level it is a personal choice.
I like the blood donor sign. Transfusions have saved both my wife's life and mine and if necessary they will again.
I would sincerely hope that those folks have not left. Their contributions are welcome and important.
Shalom
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Ciao, Bella!;549070 wrote: In that vein, let's say I peddle dope. Five times in ten months, I've hit you up to buy drugs from me. What would you do/say/think?
Whadoyagot?
Whadoyagot?
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I will never forgive those people for the evil they bring.
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I could. As a matter of fact, I've magnets that read "Vial of Life" on both doors, to alert emergency personnel as to information about everyone in the household.
I'm also an organ donor. That should help!
I'm also an organ donor. That should help!
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I know I've stated this before, but I feel it's gotten lost in this large thread.
I do not care, nor mind, if they want to practice that faith. If it makes them happy, fine. I, however, do not want to. I have told them this, till I'm literally blue in the face.
I have very private reasons to not want someone uninvited at my door, and go to great lengths to protect my identity.
Bottom line: JW's irk my rear. Seriously. Their faith does not coincide with what I believe at all, and since I don't shove mine down their throats, why should I put up with them doing the same to me?
I do not care, nor mind, if they want to practice that faith. If it makes them happy, fine. I, however, do not want to. I have told them this, till I'm literally blue in the face.
I have very private reasons to not want someone uninvited at my door, and go to great lengths to protect my identity.
Bottom line: JW's irk my rear. Seriously. Their faith does not coincide with what I believe at all, and since I don't shove mine down their throats, why should I put up with them doing the same to me?
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Ciao, Bella!;549419 wrote: Bottom line: JW's irk my rear. Seriously. Their faith does not coincide with what I believe at all, and since I don't shove mine down their throats, why should I put up with them doing the same to me?
You shouldn't have to put up with it. I'm sorry you're going thru this. I don't understand why your requests for them to stop going to your door are not heard.
You shouldn't have to put up with it. I'm sorry you're going thru this. I don't understand why your requests for them to stop going to your door are not heard.
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Thank you, Rain. I appreciate your comments.
Normally, I only go for child/animal abusers, and others of that ilk. I don't mind if someone wants to be a different faith from mine, it makes for a more interesting world.
I just want no part of the JW faith, that's all.
Normally, I only go for child/animal abusers, and others of that ilk. I don't mind if someone wants to be a different faith from mine, it makes for a more interesting world.
I just want no part of the JW faith, that's all.
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Ciao... for the sake of conversation, (if you're up for that here)
1. Is it the Witnesses themselves?
2. Is it that they come at an inopportune time, when you're husband is sleeping? (mine works nights too and sleeps days)
3. Is it their beliefs? And, I wonder, what do you really know about their beliefs?
Like I said in another thread today, it is one of The most misunderstood religions.
I ask because most ppl don't listen to what they have to say. I didn't. I had preconceived notions of what I Thought they were all about. But I know now that they're as concerned as the rest of us are about the world scene. We're all just ppl trying to get along in the world we live in. I found myself listening and having a nice conversation with them at certain times, and I understand a lot more now. And that's a good thing, as I want to make an educated choice for my faith.
1. Is it the Witnesses themselves?
2. Is it that they come at an inopportune time, when you're husband is sleeping? (mine works nights too and sleeps days)
3. Is it their beliefs? And, I wonder, what do you really know about their beliefs?
Like I said in another thread today, it is one of The most misunderstood religions.
I ask because most ppl don't listen to what they have to say. I didn't. I had preconceived notions of what I Thought they were all about. But I know now that they're as concerned as the rest of us are about the world scene. We're all just ppl trying to get along in the world we live in. I found myself listening and having a nice conversation with them at certain times, and I understand a lot more now. And that's a good thing, as I want to make an educated choice for my faith.
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Rain;550272 wrote: Ciao... for the sake of conversation, (if you're up for that here)
1. Is it the Witnesses themselves? No, it isn't the people themselves. I'm sure, outside of this facet of their lives, they're quite nice.
2. Is it that they come at an inopportune time, when you're husband is sleeping? (mine works nights too and sleeps days) Yes, that is a good portion of it. They come every other month, always on a Tuesday, and always when he is sleeping. If they rang the doorbell just once, it'd be fine. But, they lean on it, ringing it repeatedly. I'll be in the kitchen, about forty steps from the front door. What, they can't wait? How rude.
3. Is it their beliefs? And, I wonder, what do you really know about their beliefs?
Like I said in another thread today, it is one of The most misunderstood religions. Sweetie, I've been exposed to this faith also, from when I was a young child. It simply does not work for me, as I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, born of a virgin, sent to die on the CROSS for my sins, who then ascended to Heaven, where He became part of the Trinity, which consists of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. How much do you know of my faith, Lutheran (ELCA)? Do you want to know anything about it, or is this question merely rhetorical?
Buddhists, Muslims, and other faiths/denominations are also concerned about the current state of the world. They're not beating a path to my door, though. As a matter of fact, literally across the road from the nearest Kingdom Hall is a Buddhist temple! I'll put it another way. I've friends who are Moroccan. We have a strong bond, and as long as I don't serve them pork, we have no problems. We've discussed our faiths, and found each were happy with our beliefs. I've known a Buddhist, and a Taoist. Somehow, we got along. We respected each other's beliefs, and abided by the boundaries set within that respect. I've even known a few Mormons, and again, no problem. I don't mind if someone has a different faith, I've said that, and NO MATTER HOW YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE, BROACH THE QUESTION, MY ANSWER WILL BE THE SAME, OKAY?
I ask because most ppl don't listen to what they have to say. I didn't. I had preconceived notions of what I Thought they were all about. But I know now that they're as concerned as the rest of us are about the world scene. We're all just ppl trying to get along in the world we live in. I found myself listening and having a nice conversation with them at certain times, and I understand a lot more now. And that's a good thing, as I want to make an educated choice for my faith.
I too wanted to make an educated choice for my faith, after being disillusioned with the Southern Baptist faith. I found the one that works for me, and other than my former brother-in-law, everyone has respected that decision.
I think you're hinting for me to respect your faith, however, I cannot respect a group/branch/faith that will not give me the same in return. Why should I? I've made my choice, and if it is wrong, I will be the one to suffer the consequences, not you. After all, YOU were not put on this earth to atone for my sins, were you?
So, why worry about my soul? What, is it the thrill of the chase that makes JW's come around, again and again? Why can't they take no for an answer? If not, then someone has a serious problem, and it isn't me.
1. Is it the Witnesses themselves? No, it isn't the people themselves. I'm sure, outside of this facet of their lives, they're quite nice.
2. Is it that they come at an inopportune time, when you're husband is sleeping? (mine works nights too and sleeps days) Yes, that is a good portion of it. They come every other month, always on a Tuesday, and always when he is sleeping. If they rang the doorbell just once, it'd be fine. But, they lean on it, ringing it repeatedly. I'll be in the kitchen, about forty steps from the front door. What, they can't wait? How rude.
3. Is it their beliefs? And, I wonder, what do you really know about their beliefs?
Like I said in another thread today, it is one of The most misunderstood religions. Sweetie, I've been exposed to this faith also, from when I was a young child. It simply does not work for me, as I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, born of a virgin, sent to die on the CROSS for my sins, who then ascended to Heaven, where He became part of the Trinity, which consists of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. How much do you know of my faith, Lutheran (ELCA)? Do you want to know anything about it, or is this question merely rhetorical?
Buddhists, Muslims, and other faiths/denominations are also concerned about the current state of the world. They're not beating a path to my door, though. As a matter of fact, literally across the road from the nearest Kingdom Hall is a Buddhist temple! I'll put it another way. I've friends who are Moroccan. We have a strong bond, and as long as I don't serve them pork, we have no problems. We've discussed our faiths, and found each were happy with our beliefs. I've known a Buddhist, and a Taoist. Somehow, we got along. We respected each other's beliefs, and abided by the boundaries set within that respect. I've even known a few Mormons, and again, no problem. I don't mind if someone has a different faith, I've said that, and NO MATTER HOW YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE, BROACH THE QUESTION, MY ANSWER WILL BE THE SAME, OKAY?
I ask because most ppl don't listen to what they have to say. I didn't. I had preconceived notions of what I Thought they were all about. But I know now that they're as concerned as the rest of us are about the world scene. We're all just ppl trying to get along in the world we live in. I found myself listening and having a nice conversation with them at certain times, and I understand a lot more now. And that's a good thing, as I want to make an educated choice for my faith.
I too wanted to make an educated choice for my faith, after being disillusioned with the Southern Baptist faith. I found the one that works for me, and other than my former brother-in-law, everyone has respected that decision.
I think you're hinting for me to respect your faith, however, I cannot respect a group/branch/faith that will not give me the same in return. Why should I? I've made my choice, and if it is wrong, I will be the one to suffer the consequences, not you. After all, YOU were not put on this earth to atone for my sins, were you?
So, why worry about my soul? What, is it the thrill of the chase that makes JW's come around, again and again? Why can't they take no for an answer? If not, then someone has a serious problem, and it isn't me.
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Wow! I wasn't beating you up. I was just asking.
You're seem to be so angry about these certain ppl coming on a Tuesday every other month that you're beating me up for asking some questions. Don't assume I'm anything. I'm just writing on a forum board.
Peace out.
You're seem to be so angry about these certain ppl coming on a Tuesday every other month that you're beating me up for asking some questions. Don't assume I'm anything. I'm just writing on a forum board.
Peace out.
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Rain;550312 wrote: Wow! I wasn't beating you up. I was just asking.
You're seem to be so angry about these certain ppl coming on a Tuesday every other month that you're beating me up for asking some questions. Don't assume I'm anything. I'm just writing on a forum board.
Peace out.
I'm not angry. If I were, you'd get much more than what you got.
It's called I have a life. I have things going on that get interrupted by the thoughtlessness of JW's. And, you opened this can of worms by asking if I'd ever bothered to listen to them. It doesn't matter what day they come on, what matters is they simply will not stop coming by, no matter how often I tell them I am Lutheran.
Did you not post this:
Re: Have We Gone Too Far?
"The problem I have is when ppl Misunderstand the religion they are griping about. Discussing religious beliefs is one thing, but putting down the Person FOR those beliefs digs under my skin.
As for the JW thread I've been reading lately, I know MUCH about that religion, and it is one of THE most misunderstood. The opinions being thrown around in that thead are also, wrong. I know... opinions are never wrong. But the ppl who are making statements about the JW's are under the wrong impression.
So I don't think ppl should judge other's unless they know what they're talking about. Discuss the religion, Not the ppl IN that religion, who you can only speculate about at best."
What in the world am I supposed to infer when I read that post, then read your previous post to me? If JW's can misunderstood, can't I, in return?
Or, is that only reserved for JW's in your book? BTW, now, I'm angry.
You're seem to be so angry about these certain ppl coming on a Tuesday every other month that you're beating me up for asking some questions. Don't assume I'm anything. I'm just writing on a forum board.
Peace out.
I'm not angry. If I were, you'd get much more than what you got.
It's called I have a life. I have things going on that get interrupted by the thoughtlessness of JW's. And, you opened this can of worms by asking if I'd ever bothered to listen to them. It doesn't matter what day they come on, what matters is they simply will not stop coming by, no matter how often I tell them I am Lutheran.
Did you not post this:
Re: Have We Gone Too Far?
"The problem I have is when ppl Misunderstand the religion they are griping about. Discussing religious beliefs is one thing, but putting down the Person FOR those beliefs digs under my skin.
As for the JW thread I've been reading lately, I know MUCH about that religion, and it is one of THE most misunderstood. The opinions being thrown around in that thead are also, wrong. I know... opinions are never wrong. But the ppl who are making statements about the JW's are under the wrong impression.
So I don't think ppl should judge other's unless they know what they're talking about. Discuss the religion, Not the ppl IN that religion, who you can only speculate about at best."
What in the world am I supposed to infer when I read that post, then read your previous post to me? If JW's can misunderstood, can't I, in return?
Or, is that only reserved for JW's in your book? BTW, now, I'm angry.
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I'm sitting here lol. All I did was ask you a question. I wasn't berating you or anything else. Relax.
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I see. You did this with the express purpose of getting something going, then pull back with "I only asked a question".
Rain, you have to take a stand in life. There are times when things are black and white, and shades of grey/sitting on the fence rail won't cut it.
If you believe in JW, fine. I'm happy for you. Do not try to insinuate that I don't listen/understand them.
I believe in Lutheran, specifically ELCA synod. Be happy for me. Have I said that other posters don't listen to/understand my faith, or used it as a soapbox to tell you, or anyone else here, they're practising the wrong faith?
No. Unequivocally, no. A little respect, please, for that much.
Rain, you have to take a stand in life. There are times when things are black and white, and shades of grey/sitting on the fence rail won't cut it.
If you believe in JW, fine. I'm happy for you. Do not try to insinuate that I don't listen/understand them.
I believe in Lutheran, specifically ELCA synod. Be happy for me. Have I said that other posters don't listen to/understand my faith, or used it as a soapbox to tell you, or anyone else here, they're practising the wrong faith?
No. Unequivocally, no. A little respect, please, for that much.
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CB:-6
Some very good posts.
It is interesting that these folks who knock on your door want you to listen to them but they have no intention of listening to you.
When you manage to engage some in a discussion they leave very quickly when you start making sense. I had it happen once. The younger of the two men started to ask me questions and that was when the older one abruptly said it was time to go.
I wonder what they fear.
Shalom
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Some very good posts.
It is interesting that these folks who knock on your door want you to listen to them but they have no intention of listening to you.
When you manage to engage some in a discussion they leave very quickly when you start making sense. I had it happen once. The younger of the two men started to ask me questions and that was when the older one abruptly said it was time to go.
I wonder what they fear.
Shalom
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Thanx, Ted.
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Ciao, Bella!;550388 wrote: Do not try to insinuate that I don't listen/understand them.
Have I said that other posters don't listen to/understand my faith, or used it as a soapbox to tell you, or anyone else here, they're practising the wrong faith?
I was speaking in general terms when I said those things. I wasn't directing my words toward you personally or anyone else on this board. I don't judge anyone. I'm not that way. I'm glad you're happy in your religion. We should all be happy.
Have I said that other posters don't listen to/understand my faith, or used it as a soapbox to tell you, or anyone else here, they're practising the wrong faith?
I was speaking in general terms when I said those things. I wasn't directing my words toward you personally or anyone else on this board. I don't judge anyone. I'm not that way. I'm glad you're happy in your religion. We should all be happy.
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Then why ask if I was up for a conversation? By addressing me, it was aimed at me.
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Oh come on!
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RedGlitter;551426 wrote: Oh come on!
What do mean by that?
Rain asked her some questions ,Did not get the answers she wanted and then turned it all on CB for explaining herself.
Is this supposed too make CB feel bad about her self.??
Rains post looked alot like happens at your door when you are polite enough too listen,they answer every thing with a question until you are so annoyed you wanna punch them in the face because they won't go away.
Just so you know CB,Some of us have your back.
What do mean by that?
Rain asked her some questions ,Did not get the answers she wanted and then turned it all on CB for explaining herself.
Is this supposed too make CB feel bad about her self.??
Rains post looked alot like happens at your door when you are polite enough too listen,they answer every thing with a question until you are so annoyed you wanna punch them in the face because they won't go away.
Just so you know CB,Some of us have your back.
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Behind,along side or in front,.............you will see me!
Yeah:yh_tongue .Shweet tater salad said that!!!
Yeah:yh_tongue .Shweet tater salad said that!!!
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On the martyrdom of children thread I invited Rain to discuss.
After thinking about it today, I in fact started a discussion on the interpretation of the Bible. She left angry. No discussion. It is not likely there will be one. But hey, whatever.
Shalom
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After thinking about it today, I in fact started a discussion on the interpretation of the Bible. She left angry. No discussion. It is not likely there will be one. But hey, whatever.
Shalom
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Sorry it didn't go well.
Even twins interpret the Bible differently from each other. It's called being an individual. People have to learn to accept this, don't they?
Even twins interpret the Bible differently from each other. It's called being an individual. People have to learn to accept this, don't they?
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Shweet tatersalad;551441 wrote: Behind,along side or in front,.............you will see me!
Yeah:yh_tongue .Shweet tater salad said that!!!
Sweet of ya, Tater!
Yeah:yh_tongue .Shweet tater salad said that!!!
Sweet of ya, Tater!
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In many ways I think you are correct in that view of interpretation. I would add however, that studying under Biblical scholars gives one a lot of light on how one might look at things. Others may disagree with what scholarship says but one cannot fault them for their very hard and admirable work.
And yes there is disagreement among scholars but what I have found is they may disagree with each other on points but they do treat each other with respect and do admit when they think they are correct but that the others makes some good points.
Now I have said that the Jehovah Witnesses have misinterpreted the Bible. That is my stand that is based on a total of probably more than a thousand man years of research into the ancient scriptures. I do not say what I cannot support with either my own reasoning or more than likely the scholarship of many others.
Shalom
Ted:-6
In many ways I think you are correct in that view of interpretation. I would add however, that studying under Biblical scholars gives one a lot of light on how one might look at things. Others may disagree with what scholarship says but one cannot fault them for their very hard and admirable work.
And yes there is disagreement among scholars but what I have found is they may disagree with each other on points but they do treat each other with respect and do admit when they think they are correct but that the others makes some good points.
Now I have said that the Jehovah Witnesses have misinterpreted the Bible. That is my stand that is based on a total of probably more than a thousand man years of research into the ancient scriptures. I do not say what I cannot support with either my own reasoning or more than likely the scholarship of many others.
Shalom
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Ted, I agree with you all the way!
I don't mind how someone interprets the Bible, as long they don't try to convince me I'm wrong. If something works for me, I'm happy!
I don't mind how someone interprets the Bible, as long they don't try to convince me I'm wrong. If something works for me, I'm happy!