Lemme Know?

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:31 am

oscar;1084584 wrote: So why is the problem worse??

lol because you only have one hand to extend instead of two.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:33 am

jimbo;1084589 wrote: not only are those mericans jumping on my bald head ,the meet up is next week and i've upset the brits now

So, why is my having one arm even worse jimbo?? Explain please?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:37 am

guppy;1084582 wrote: I actually see nothing wrong with this thread..there are a few that have very strong wills and definite opinions..and wicked sense of humor..i learn alot when they start discussing..their wealth of knowlege is more than mine. Jimbo is smart as heck to come up with the one liners he does..

Oscar and Fuzzy are both very smart..and have a drive about them that i very much respect..and a crystal intelligence..

Spot is way to smart..very educated..seems to know everything..in detail..:wah: so some of his simple remarks crack me up sometimes.

of course i like you all..but these stand out in this thread and i am championing them..

if you step around the shallowness of hurt feelings and dont take things personally this thread is very educating..and entertaining.:-6

Very well said.. especiaaly the bit about Oscar :yh_rotfl

Unfortuantely, the British suffer from 'Irony' and 'Sarcasm'. What is an innocent remark to us, can offend another. It's all Margret Thatcher's fault.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:38 am

jimbo;1084601 wrote: shush i'm trying to backtrack :-3:-3

she has allready said she wants to punch me at the meet up

lol...uh oh...but I dont think you can get out of this one Jimbo. She can only punch you once though....

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:38 am

jimbo;1084601 wrote: shush i'm trying to backtrack :-3:-3

she has allready said she wants to punch me at the meet up

I am very very hurt Jimbo, i never thought i'd see you knock the disabled.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:50 am

I got Jimbo back :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Geeeeeezzzzzz I had him worried there for a while. If i didn't have to go to work to pay Gordon Lovliness so more income tax, i would have kept it going all night.

Thanks for the pm Jimbo... Your a gentlman.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:56 am

jimbo;1084642 wrote: i guess i went out on a limb and paid the price :-5:-5

tosser oscar :p:p:p :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

With that i have to say goodnight.

GOODNIGHT

Post by **spot** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:58 am

Leave her be Jimbo, she's mostly 'armless.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:02 am

spot;1084647 wrote: Leave her be Jimbo, she's mostly 'armless.

LOL LOL LOL. Thats funny. I knew she was messing with him from step one because she had posted pictures here on the site of herself. The pictures that come up on the main page. She got him good....lol.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:22 am

jimbo;1084653 wrote: i was just playing along i knew :p:p

but me and wisey got into big trouble once on fg on a similar thread so i thought i best be carefull :-3:-3

no ones feelings hurt except mine :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I have had that happen on another site that I go to. Some wheelchair comment I made.

Post by **spot** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:29 am

wildhorses;1084659 wrote: I have had that happen on another site that I go to. Some wheelchair comment I made.

On a site this size it's an even bet whether the total ear or testicle count is odd or even. People lose things. At a rough estimate we average two ears and one testicle each here.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:45 am

spot;1084709 wrote: On a site this size it's an even bet whether the total ear or testicle count is odd or even. People lose things. At a rough estimate we average two ears and one testicle each here.
Speak for yourself oddball.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:59 am

YZGI;1084720 wrote: Speak for yourself oddball.:yh_rotfl

Post by **spot** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:01 pm

87% of people just don't understand statistics.

Post by **spot** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:03 pm

"Coming up are photos of the England teams in action, but we've airbrushed out the balls"?

What on earth do they mean by action!

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:09 pm

spot;1084739 wrote: 87% of people just don't understand statistics.

Sometimes statistics give out of context information. So if you are going to give a testicle (lol) statistic for a web site....then a male/female statisitic would help. But roughly I would say that your ear/testicle statistic is pretty close to correct

Post by **spot** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:19 pm

43% of registrations are by people claiming to be male, 48% of registrations are by people claiming to be female and 9% of registrants don't know what they are.

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:20 pm

YZGI;1084720 wrote: Speak for yourself oddball.

"Underground, overground, Wombling free

The Wombles of Wimbledon Common are we...":yh_rotfl

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:26 pm

spot;1084765 wrote: 43% of registrations are by people claiming to be male, 48% of registrations are by people claiming to be female and 9% of registrants don't know what they are.

9% dont know what they are.....wonder what that statistic means.

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:39 pm

oscar;1083761 wrote: Yeah, the french... dirty smelly cowardly, arrogant and thank god we have an English channel between us.

This was apparently tongue in cheek. Thankyou Oscar for the clarification. I'm an Aussie, but I'm sure any oversensitive French people we used once to have a few of in here but now don't will be relieved.

But - just for illustration purposes - look at the words. This is not a criticism of some part of French foreign policy, or a dig at the President of the Republique. Not even a swipe at his good lady, the ex top model and fine singer, Carla Bruni. It's not a derogatory comment on the entente amicale between Britain and France or knocking of the recent photos of Mr Brown and M Sarkozy taking on a joint leadership role re the economic crisis..

It's dissing a whole country and all its 60 million people, in a way I don't recall any poster getting anywhere remotely close to in relation to America. Even in jest. If this were real it would be hostility.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:46 pm

AussiePam;1084802 wrote: This was apparently tongue in cheek. Thankyou Oscar for the clarification. I'm an Aussie, but I'm sure any oversensitive French people we used once to have a few of in here but now don't will be relieved.

But - just for illustration purposes - look at the words. This is not a criticism of some part of French foreign policy, or a dig at the President of the Republique. Not even a swipe at his good lady, the ex top model and fine singer, Carla Bruni. It's not a derogatory comment on the entente amicale between Britain and France or knocking of the recent photos of Mr Brown and M Sarkozy taking on a joint leadership role re the economic crisis..

It's dissing a whole country and all its 60 million people, in a way I don't recall any poster getting anywhere remotely close to in relation to America. Even in jest. If this were real it would be hostility.

Well there were a few over a couple days directed at Americans that were this bad, many were almost as bad. But its not happening anymore so thats what counts. Yesterday is gone.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:04 pm

spot;1084421 wrote: Let's start by remembering what happened.

JJ was permanently banned from Forumgarden. He came back with a proxy-disguised registration as Touchstone and built a persona. He claimed to be a US marine - bear in mind he's actually South African - and he started a deliberately inflamatory thread saying the US had won in Iraq. Fuzzy and Oscar reacted badly and shouted when Jester and Wildhorses came in backing JJ/Touchstone.

Who, out of all these people, are you blaming for any perception of anti-Americanism?

Then we had this thread of Accountable's, complaining about me still being a member here? Suddenly it all turns into being my fault? I don't quite know what I can do about that. Would someone like to tell me when the last time I showed impoliteness to a member was, for example?

Oscar and fuzzy, get in here and apologize for your over-the-top reaction of the last couple of days, that might start to calm the people who need calming. I know it's been fun for you but it's not helped.

:wah::wah:...woohooo.....JJ?Touchstone:yh_rotfl

I pm'd "someone" here that I thought there was something not kosher about Touchstone. His posts seemed "familiar" and his local time on his posting profile was on California time and not NY time (not that that matters...we can always change our local time). I thought Touchstone was a former member, but I didn't think it was JJ;)

JJ:p You wack-a-doodle.....you had us all fooled, but I felt that you were a former member:wah:...good one JJ

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:13 pm

Kathy Ellen;1084938 wrote: :wah::wah:...woohooo.....JJ?Touchstone:yh_rotfl

I pm'd "someone" here that I thought there was something not kosher about Touchstone. His posts seemed "familiar" and his local time on his posting profile was on California time and not NY time (not that that matters...we can always change our local time). I thought Touchstone was a former member, but I didn't think it was JJ;)

JJ:p You wack-a-doodle.....you had us all fooled, but I felt that you were a former member:wah:...good one JJ

No Kathy he didnt have us all fooled as he aint that clever mate;)BTW......Hope yer ok:-4

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:20 pm

Carolly;1084949 wrote: No Kathy he didnt have us all fooled as he aint that clever mate;)BTW......Hope yer ok:-4

Hi Carol :-4

Thanks, I'm great...have just been busy with school stuff. I am laughing my a*s off right now. I felt touchstone was a former member, but didn't associate JJ with him.....I think that JJ pulled off a great hoax here......not that I approve of that mind you...:-6 .....I miss him:wah: Sorry, I should have said that he fooled some of us...

Hope all is good with you also Carol:guitarist:-6:D

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:35 pm

Kathy Ellen;1084955 wrote: Hi Carol :-4

Thanks, I'm great...have just been busy with school stuff. I am laughing my a*s of right now. I felt touchstone was a former member, but didn't associate JJ with him.....I think that JJ pulled off a great hoax here......not that I approve of that mind you...:-6 .....I miss him:wah:

Hope all is good with you also Carol:guitarist:-6:DA good hoax sweetheart is when someone gets away with something and nobody susses them out.JJ knows he got sussed as tbh his not a very good actor.....still caused you to have a laugh and some others Im sure so all was not lost:D;)Hope yer all ready for Xmas:-4

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:46 pm

as to the OP...

I'm a Canadian. We kill seals. Clobber 'em. I have to live with that because I live here and that's how some people see my country. I also live in an igloo and ride a moose to work.

If you live in America you have to live with the impression the American government creates among foreigners... and it isn't very pleasant right now. You live in a democracy, you as a group elect your leaders. They represent you. Hopefully the world's impression of America will change but it takes longer to undo bad press than it takes to create it.

What do you expect? That everyone ignore world events?

If someone dislikes America because of what they have done to other countries, is it their fault that they noticed or America's fault for allowing their leaders to create that impression? Stop killing messengers.

btw, I don't hate Americans. You can ask G-man. He'll vouch for me.

Post by **Peter Lake** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:00 am

koan;1085174 wrote: as to the OP...

I'm a Canadian. We kill seals. Clobber 'em. I have to live with that because I live here and that's how some people see my country. I also live in an igloo and ride a moose to work.

If you live in America you have to live with the impression the American government creates among foreigners... and it isn't very pleasant right now. You live in a democracy, you as a group elect your leaders. They represent you. Hopefully the world's impression of America will change but it takes longer to undo bad press than it takes to create it.

What do you expect? That everyone ignore world events?

If someone dislikes America because of what they have done to other countries, is it their fault that they noticed or America's fault for allowing their leaders to create that impression? Stop killing messengers.

btw, I don't hate Americans. You can ask G-man. He'll vouch for me.

It is unfortunate that the worlds press has been dominated by the U.S. election, and the following collapse of economy in most country's. It is very difficult to avoid such news in this present climate.

I have enjoyed reading members opinions on here and i don't see any

true ill-feeling. Any spats seem to clear very quickly and that shows a great understanding and tolerence of the people on here.

When different country's are expressing their views, it is only human to become defensive should they feel their country is being mocked. Not everyone is a great writer and i doubt every member on here has a degree in the written word. It is there-fore inevitable that a member will express themselves in a way they feel is correct but may appear in an entirely different manner to a member of a different nationality. It should maybe be understood that some do not express themselves as well as others. That does not make them inferior or any less important to this forum than anyone else.

What a dull world it would be, should we all be equal and alike?

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:19 am

Peter Lake;1085176 wrote: It is unfortunate that the worlds press has been dominated by the U.S. election, and the following collapse of economy in most country's. It is very difficult to avoid such news in this present climate.

I have enjoyed reading members opinions on here and i don't see any

true ill-feeling. Any spats seem to clear very quickly and that shows a great understanding and tolerence of the people on here.

When different country's are expressing their views, it is only human to become defensive should they feel their country is being mocked. Not everyone is a great writer and i doubt every member on here has a degree in the written word. It is there-fore inevitable that a member will express themselves in a way they feel is correct but may appear in an entirely different manner to a member of a different nationality. It should maybe be understood that some do not express themselves as well as others. That does not make them inferior or any less important to this forum than anyone else.

What a dull world it would be, should we all be equal and alike?

Excellent post, you write so well..Are you sure your married to Oscar:sneaky::yh_rotfl

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:05 am

Koan makes some excellent points.

The problem is, most folk are patriotic to their country and will fight to the death to defend it, be it with a gun or a pen and quite rightly so.

This thread has made me very uncomfortable, being a non American, do I come under the group that is "Anti American" because I was born on this side of the water?

I see FG developing into a them and us forum, something I never thought I'd see.

May I remind everyone that the very patriotic Touchstone who fought for his America was in fact a moron living in South Africa.

My word, what problems one blip can make. :rolleyes:

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:23 am

koan;1085174 wrote: as to the OP...

I'm a Canadian. We kill seals. Clobber 'em. I have to live with that because I live here and that's how some people see my country. I also live in an igloo and ride a moose to work.

If you live in America you have to live with the impression the American government creates among foreigners... and it isn't very pleasant right now. You live in a democracy, you as a group elect your leaders. They represent you. Hopefully the world's impression of America will change but it takes longer to undo bad press than it takes to create it.

What do you expect? That everyone ignore world events?

If someone dislikes America because of what they have done to other countries, is it their fault that they noticed or America's fault for allowing their leaders to create that impression? Stop killing messengers.

btw, I don't hate Americans. You can ask G-man. He'll vouch for me.

I go to many forums with people from all over the world. About 12 of them. This is the only forum where I have seen this anti american sentiment. Oh yes there will be the occassional "drive by" poster on some of those, but generally everyone is very friendly. People do not have to ignore world events, but they dont have to be abusive either. There is a fine line between expressing ones views and being abusive. Other forums seem to accomplish this and there is no reason that cant be true with this forum.

Post by **spot** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:35 am

Jester;1085538 wrote: the anti american sentiment was here already, he just picked it out rustled the boards a little. Can we talk about this just briefly? If it turns out that, for example, I post solidly throughout 2009 in favour of the policies and actions of the incoming administration, will that just confirm I'm anti-American in your opinion? I keep telling you I'm fervently against the policies and behaviour of the Bush White House and you've interpreted my posts as anti-American. What'll you think after January when I continue to harangue the Bush administration but start to laud the new President?

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:37 pm

Seriously, I don't bother to get into any of the threads in question here -anymore. I decided when I came back a bit ago, that I'd stick to other sites for discussions on serious home issues and politics. The few I bothered with here during the presidential election just reinforced my desire to not engage here. I went elsewhere for real conversations that make me think rather then just make me want to react.

But don't take the fact that folks can't be bothered here anymore as a sign that anyone has won any argument, on any issue. Driving folks away doesn't win the point. The point is only won if you have managed to persuade that other person that your point was the correct one.

There just aren't all that many Americans that you are going to be able to convince that America is what is wrong with absolutely everything in the world today... much as you may like to.. Others of us just get sick of hearing it over and over again, eventually..

Post by **spot** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:14 pm

Jester;1085610 wrote: I do belive you are a self porclaimed communist, I expect you to be anti american. Or anti capitalist, democracy etc.I'm a communist, I'm anti unregulated capitalism, I like Americans, one day they'll be a properly socialist society and they'll not be so poor or downtrodden and they'll not be ruled by super-rich oligarchs who despise them. I'm all for a democratic America but I've never seen one so far.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:17 pm

spot;1085547 wrote: Can we talk about this just briefly? If it turns out that, for example, I post solidly throughout 2009 in favour of the policies and actions of the incoming administration, will that just confirm I'm anti-American in your opinion? I keep telling you I'm fervently against the policies and behaviour of the Bush White House and you've interpreted my posts as anti-American. What'll you think after January when I continue to harangue the Bush administration but start to laud the new President?

It really depends on how you say it Spot. As I said in an earlier post there is a fine line between expressing your views and abuse. Dont forget that each American has one vote and cannot control how others vote. In one of our discussions I remember you said to me that Bush foreign policies were the fault of all Americans because we voted for him. But I never voted for Bush and I cant control how others vote. I can only encourage them to vote how I think would be most beneficial to our country....but still I dont get to vote for them. So in discussions on US foreign policies please remember that the person you are speaking with only has one vote....just one. Collectively....yes we do control the government. But personally, sometimes things go the way I want, and sometimes they dont. I still only have one vote, as does each and every American. So why would you blame me for Bush policies when I never voted for him?.....unless I state that I agree with a particular policy.

Post by **spot** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:33 pm

wildhorses;1085638 wrote: It really depends on how you say it Spot. As I said in an earlier post there is a fine line between expressing your views and abuse. Dont forget that each American has one vote and cannot control how others vote. In one of our discussions I remember you said to me that Bush foreign policies were the fault of all Americans because we voted for him. But I never voted for Bush and I cant control how others vote. I can only encourage them to vote how I think would be most beneficial to our country....but still I dont get to vote for them. So in discussions on US foreign policies please remember that the person you are speaking with only has one vote....just one. Collectively....yes we do control the government. But personally, sometimes things go the way I want, and sometimes they dont. I still only have one vote, as does each and every American. So why would you blame me for Bush policies when I never voted for him?.....unless I state that I agree with a particular policy.

Because so far you've personally failed to rise up and overthrow your tyrannical government or at least taken to the streets with placards protesting what's happened. I agree it takes rather more than just one of you to achieve change but that's been the litmus test for a good American over the last eight years. Who knows, maybe after January 20th I'll feel differently about it.

Post by **spot** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:41 pm

Jester;1085645 wrote: Excellent then under that ideology the pople of Iran are just as guilty as their leadership and I can nuke all of them.

It's not your country's job because they're incapable of threatening your country much less threatening it.