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oscar;1225006 wrote: :wah: I'm back.

I had a twinge of sympathy for him as you know how it is? When they first go in prison, everyone visits and then they tail off. We have to remember he is still a child although he's in a very adult world right now. I can not go into details due to Sub Judice law pending his trial but forensics have turned up something that shows a new angle involving the Co-defendants. All we can do is give him the benifit of the doubt until his trial by jury and a verdict is reached. He was asking for comics today. At least there is one thing..... he's not blaming his friends or crying 'mistaken identity'. He accepts his part and has been totally honest with the police.

What a horrid day here? Rain Rain Rain again. What's it like your end? How are you doing?


of course I know you still care, you wouldn't be human if you didn't.

but as you said, he did admit his part.



omg more rain?



sunny, then storms and a high of 30C, probably 90F there?



just woke up to the sound of a police car siren over and over again! uncommon on my street.

Odie;1225008 wrote: of course I know you still care, you wouldn't be human if you didn't.

but as you said, he did admit his part.



omg more rain?



sunny, then storms and a high of 30C, probably 90F there?



just woke up to the sound of a police car siren over and over again! uncommon on my street. Yes, it's really tough. It's funny when you go in there because you see these kids in custody for some of the countries worst murders and they look like my nephew.... just a kid. My nephew stands barely over 5 ft. You know they act the hard man on the streets and then you see them crying to their mums in the visiting suite. All i can say is that from what i now know...... he could get off the murder charge and probably answer to a lesser charge, but we have to wait and see. He has settled down in there and is doing well on his engineering course. The prison get's lifers to come in and talk to him to prepare him for life imprisonment. He seems to have accepted it although he was talking one time of ripping up his duvet cover and hanging himself. This is why it's so important that he see's his baby regually..... it keeps him real and gives him a focus.

And, NO.... I don't give a shyte who's reading this Joan.

Can't we do wife swap? :wah: You come here to the rain and I'll go to yours with your 30 degree's:wah:

oscar;1225016 wrote: Yes, it's really tough. It's funny when you go in there because you see these kids in custody for some of the countries worst murders and they look like my nephew.... just a kid. My nephew stands barely over 5 ft. You know they act the hard man on the streets and then you see them crying to their mums in the visiting suite. All i can say is that from what i now know...... he could get off the murder charge and probably answer to a lesser charge, but we have to wait and see. He has settled down in there and is doing well on his engineering course. The prison get's lifers to come in and talk to him to prepare him for life imprisonment. He seems to have accepted it although he was talking one time of ripping up his duvet cover and hanging himself. This is why it's so important that he see's his baby regually..... it keeps him real and gives him a focus.

And, NO.... I don't give a shyte who's reading this Joan.

Can't we do wife swap? :wah: You come here to the rain and I'll go to yours with your 30 degree's:wah:


acting tough is one thing...but to carry things out.....

guess some have to learn the hard way.........

horrible thought..him in prison for the rest of his life.



I coudn't handle that much rain..........Mr. O wouldn't like me as I would be soooooo grouchy and depressed!:-5:-5:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1225082 wrote: acting tough is one thing...but to carry things out.....

guess some have to learn the hard way.........

horrible thought..him in prison for the rest of his life.



I coudn't handle that much rain..........Mr. O wouldn't like me as I would be soooooo grouchy and depressed!:-5:-5:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
He's used to Grouchy :wah:

Your right of course. Not sure I can sit through the trial listening to the defence teams making excuses for them and listening to those injuries again. Hopefully he will come out eventually a better man. When he first went in, he acted a little too tough and got beaten up twice but he's made friends now which is good.

His baby is coming on beautifully and now is the spit image of his dad.



Yes, it's raining again now :-5:-5:-5

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oscar;1225105 wrote: He's used to Grouchy :wah:

Your right of course. Not sure I can sit through the trial listening to the defence teams making excuses for them and listening to those injuries again. Hopefully he will come out eventually a better man. When he first went in, he acted a little too tough and got beaten up twice but he's made friends now which is good.

His baby is coming on beautifully and now is the spit image of his dad.



Yes, it's raining again now :-5:-5:-5


glad he's used to grouchy!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

awwwwwww baby is just so sweet!

severe thunderstorms all day.........couldn't nap:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1225257 wrote: glad he's used to grouchy!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

awwwwwww baby is just so sweet!

severe thunderstorms all day.........couldn't nap:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Yes, I could just eat that baby :wah:

How do your cats react to thunderstorms? Puppy hates them.

oscar;1225264 wrote: Yes, I could just eat that baby :wah:

How do your cats react to thunderstorms? Puppy hates them.


they run and hide....there is no point in me evening trying to settle them down...they come back out when its over..........

but today, they slept through it.

I think all animals are frightened.....some can be damn loud!

it scares the **** out of me!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1225268 wrote: they run and hide....there is no point in me evening trying to settle them down...they come back out when its over..........

but today, they slept through it.

I think all animals are frightened.....some can be damn loud!

it scares the **** out of me!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl :wah: And me. Puppy just won't stop barking which becomes annoying but the cats totally ignore it all. :wah:

oscar;1225271 wrote: :wah: And me. Puppy just won't stop barking which becomes annoying but the cats totally ignore it all. :wah:


awww poor puppy.....he is trying to show his power!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1225273 wrote: awww poor puppy.....he is trying to show his power!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


speaking of power!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Jack at 2 a.m. knocked over my lamp!

that cat runs so fast, you can't see him!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1225635 wrote: speaking of power!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Jack at 2 a.m. knocked over my lamp!

that cat runs so fast, you can't see him!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Oh don't they just run?:wah:

Since we got all the new furnature in, oscar has become a real pain in the butt. We had a new fireplace put in and all he wants to do is climb up on the mantle piece. He is so fat and clumsy, everything goes flying and then he loses his balance and falls off.

I came home recently and Pete had to break the news that he's got up there again and smashed my dads model Spitfire Plane. Not too bad as Pete repaired it.

So Pete put in a new lounge door with a lock so when we are out, they can't get in here. Then I only have to look at that face of Oscar's and I can't be cross with him.

oscar;1225720 wrote: Oh don't they just run?:wah:



Since we got all the new furnature in, oscar has become a real pain in the butt. We had a new fireplace put in and all he wants to do is climb up on the mantle piece. He is so fat and clumsy, everything goes flying and then he loses his balance and falls off.

I came home recently and Pete had to break the news that he's got up there again and smashed my dads model Spitfire Plane. Not too bad as Pete repaired it.

So Pete put in a new lounge door with a lock so when we are out, they can't get in here. Then I only have to look at that face of Oscar's and I can't be cross with him.


thank goodness for doors!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

with no other cat but Jack, if it isn't there....he will find it!:-5:-5

but he's just so darn cute, and he runs away when he has broken something, he knows now he has done something wrong!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

the worst night.........used to have a 10 gallon fish tank.....no lid....cats only drank the water.....then we get Jack.

while in my office here, I here quite the strange noises at 2am....went out and Jack bending over the tank had a fish in his mouth!:-5:-5

his teeth were clenched so tight, it took me awhile to unloosen the fish.....

put him back in the tank, trying to resesitate him.....

grabbed Jack and put him in our bedroom, as he wanted more!:-5:-5

then......went to clean up the water as it was everywhere......2 more fish on the carpet.



tried to resisitate and put them back.........after a few minutes they were all dead.

Odie;1225723 wrote: thank goodness for doors!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

with no other cat but Jack, if it isn't there....he will find it!:-5:-5

but he's just so darn cute, and he runs away when he has broken something, he knows now he has done something wrong!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

the worst night.........used to have a 10 gallon fish tank.....no lid....cats only drank the water.....then we get Jack.

while in my office here, I here quite the strange noises at 2am....went out and Jack bending over the tank had a fish in his mouth!:-5:-5

his teeth were clenched so tight, it took me awhile to unloosen the fish.....

put him back in the tank, trying to resesitate him.....

grabbed Jack and put him in our bedroom, as he wanted more!:-5:-5

then......went to clean up the water as it was everywhere......2 more fish on the carpet.



tried to resisitate and put them back.........after a few minutes they were all dead. That is so sad. Your poor fish !!! Now you know why we are going for a raised pond:wah: How on earth do you ressucitate a fish?

Having a quiet evening now. Pete just went out and got some fillet steak :-4 He managed to get to the shop without being stopped for shop lifting which was good :wah:

What are you up to today?

oscar;1225727 wrote: That is so sad. Your poor fish !!! Now you know why we are going for a raised pond:wah: How on earth do you ressucitate a fish?

Having a quiet evening now. Pete just went out and got some fillet steak :-4 He managed to get to the shop without being stopped for shop lifting which was good :wah:

What are you up to today?


ask Peter how to do that with a fish, after its been out of water.



and no, its wasn't mouth to mouth!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



mmmmmmmm steaks! save me one! newbie can go hungry.:sneaky:

what, no cop stop? there's always tomorrow!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1225837 wrote: ask Peter how to do that with a fish, after its been out of water.



and no, its wasn't mouth to mouth!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



mmmmmmmm steaks! save me one! newbie can go hungry.:sneaky:

what, no cop stop? there's always tomorrow!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


hello?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1226820 wrote: hello?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Hi Joan, I've not been in very long and I come home to find Pete has been on all day. I think he has the FG bug :yh_rotfl I'm rushing off out now again but I hope to be home later this evening in time for a chat with you. L aters my friend

:-4

oscar;1226829 wrote: Hi Joan, I've not been in very long and I come home to find Pete has been on all day. I think he has the FG bug :yh_rotfl I'm rushing off out now again but I hope to be home later this evening in time for a chat with you. L aters my friend

:-4


fine......just ignore me.:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Pete has taken over in your absence, down boy!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1226831 wrote: fine......just ignore me.:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Pete has taken over in your absence, down boy!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl He only ever posted on his beloved fishing forums but he likes some of the members on here so maybe he will post a little more. I'll be home soon :-4:-4

oscar;1226844 wrote: He only ever posted on his beloved fishing forums but he likes some of the members on here so maybe he will post a little more. I'll be home soon :-4:-4


yes, he's spreading his wings, and that's awesome!

see you tonight!

xoxo

Odie;1226848 wrote: yes, he's spreading his wings, and that's awesome!

see you tonight!

xoxo She's been busy all day again today and this afternoon she had the police here talking to her who were surprisingly kind and helpful. I'm sure she'll message you when she gets home tonight. I hope your bearing up as i couldn't imagine my life without Julie.

Oscar and Odie--we're back and we're bad



You guys arent really all that "bad"

Youre both probably wearing bunny slippers and one has marmalade dripping from her chin while the other thinks crocheting moose pillows is good times.

Nomad;1227277 wrote: Oscar and Odie--we're back and we're bad



You guys arent really all that "bad"

Youre both probably wearing bunny slippers and one has marmalade dripping from her chin while the other thinks crocheting moose pillows is good times.


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

I can't even crochet.:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

mmmmmmmm would love a moose steak though.

now where is she with her bunny slippers today?:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1227301 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

I can't even crochet.:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

mmmmmmmm would love a moose steak though.

now where is she with her bunny slippers today?:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I can crochet, knit and sew but I refuse to. I do not possess any bunny slippers and Nomad is spying on us.

Just got in, what sort of day did you have?

oscar;1227425 wrote: I can crochet, knit and sew but I refuse to. I do not possess any bunny slippers and Nomad is spying on us.



Just got in, what sort of day did you have?


It was great till about 5 minutes ago.

Are you going back out soon?

Nomad;1227440 wrote: It was great till about 5 minutes ago.

Are you going back out soon?
No...... I'm staying up all night to get the benifit of following you around threads.

oscar;1227425 wrote: I can crochet, knit and sew but I refuse to. I do not possess any bunny slippers and Nomad is spying on us.

Just got in, what sort of day did you have?




busy until 2pm, then had a nap!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1227500 wrote: busy until 2pm, then had a nap!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Nana nap? :wah:

oscar;1227509 wrote: Nana nap? :wah:


ever tried to lift a snowblower?

my back!:-5:-5

yup, huge nana nap!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1227511 wrote: ever tried to lift a snowblower?

my back!:-5:-5

yup, huge nana nap!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
No I haven't but I have carried home a strange man who was so drunk he didn't know where he lived. ONG... my back :yh_rotfl

oscar;1227524 wrote: No I haven't but I have carried home a strange man who was so drunk he didn't know where he lived. ONG... my back :yh_rotfl


I would have just left him there.

Odie;1227621 wrote: I would have just left him there.
I couldn't....... it was Pete :yh_rotfl

Just messaged you :-4

oscar;1227624 wrote: I couldn't....... it was Pete :yh_rotfl

Just messaged you :-4


messaged you back and thanks for listening, as I just needed to vent.:-1

xo

Odie;1227628 wrote: messaged you back and thanks for listening, as I just needed to vent.:-1

xo
We all need to vent at times. People should listen more. We have good folk here at FG :-6:-6

oscar;1227746 wrote: We all need to vent at times. People should listen more. We have good folk here at FG :-6:-6


yes.....but most are not interested or care....as I have found out the hard way.

good morning!

much much better today!

its gonna be hot and I do mean hot, 40C with the humidity!:-5:-5



going out for awhile.........



what are you up to today, nana nap?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie;1227748 wrote: yes.....but most are not interested or care....as I have found out the hard way.

good morning!

much much better today!

its gonna be hot and I do mean hot, 40C with the humidity!:-5:-5



going out for awhile.........



what are you up to today, nana nap?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Glad to hear your better today. WOW..... that is hot !!!

Nothing special today after my week of activity. Pete's just gone out to get more chicken for the foxes. God I wish I had a camera that shot in the dark !!! I got out there last night to find 7 foxes, 1 Badger, 1 Very large Hedgehog and 3 neighbours cats :wah:

I am just going to catch up on some paper work but apart from that I am being very lazy today.

My good Turkish pal gave me some tobacco to send to OM..... that was very good of him :-4

oscar;1227752 wrote: Glad to hear your better today. WOW..... that is hot !!!

Nothing special today after my week of activity. Pete's just gone out to get more chicken for the foxes. God I wish I had a camera that shot in the dark !!! I got out there last night to find 7 foxes, 1 Badger, 1 Very large Hedgehog and 3 neighbours cats :wah:

I am just going to catch up on some paper work but apart from that I am being very lazy today.

My good Turkish pal gave me some tobacco to send to OM..... that was very good of him :-4


oh how cool, hedgehogs and badgers now......

those cats better be careful.

tis good to have a lazy day as your on the go all the time.

did more cleaning and scrubbing........grrrrrrrrr

went out and bought more groceries and got stuck in a huge thunderstorm!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



I looked like a drenched rat!:wah::wah:

Odie;1227768 wrote: oh how cool, hedgehogs and badgers now......

those cats better be careful.

tis good to have a lazy day as your on the go all the time.

did more cleaning and scrubbing........grrrrrrrrr

went out and bought more groceries and got stuck in a huge thunderstorm!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



I looked like a drenched rat!:wah::wah: I could do with a thunderstorm to clear the air as it is very hot here also.

The cats are always out there with the foxes and I have seen thm eat together from the same pile of food. The foxes take no notice at all...... it's quite remarkable really but then, there is plenty for all of them and it means they don't have to fight over it.

Pete's going to do the cleaning tonight when it cools down a bit. He's making me one of his Chilli's as well.

We are on the patio at the moment as the sun is still hot. :driving::driving:

oscar;1227771 wrote: I could do with a thunderstorm to clear the air as it is very hot here also.

The cats are always out there with the foxes and I have seen thm eat together from the same pile of food. The foxes take no notice at all...... it's quite remarkable really but then, there is plenty for all of them and it means they don't have to fight over it.

Pete's going to do the cleaning tonight when it cools down a bit. He's making me one of his Chilli's as well.

We are on the patio at the moment as the sun is still hot. :driving::driving:


what is your temp there?

its nice the fox's have made themselves at ease with other animals.

Chili sounds good, must make mine when it gets cooler.

does Pete do windows?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl



off for lunch....be back later..xo

Are the foxes in your garden? im so jealous! ive only been up close to a wild fox once, and it ran away really quickly

I did however get about a foot away from a baby buzzard yesterday, infact we are starting to get a little worried about it. My dad phoned the RSPCB but they didnt want to know!

Oops;1227797 wrote: Are the foxes in your garden? im so jealous! ive only been up close to a wild fox once, and it ran away really quickly

I did however get about a foot away from a baby buzzard yesterday, infact we are starting to get a little worried about it. My dad phoned the RSPCB but they didnt want to know!
The entire board on FG knows all about my foxes :wah: Yes, they were driven down to the grounds of the school next door to my home after building on greenbelt. Many get killed on the main road trying to get to the land-fill and the life expectancy of an Urban fox is just 2 years as they get shot, poisoned, hit by cars etc. We just figure it's better to feed them than have them dead. There is around 15 of them although they do not all come at the same time. The average number is around 8 a night. There is quite an operation that goes on behind the scenes to keep them safe and fed including food out-lets giving me meat for them. I have never tried to tame them and never hand feed them except for one's that have been brought to me injured, to keep their wild instincts. The Alpha Pack Leader has been coming for years and has started to become tame and will brush against my legs. Yes, they come to the garden every night at a certain time although we keep the location top secret to keep them safe.

We had a police officer round the house one night and he left in the early hours of the morning. He was astonished to come out my front door and find the pack leader curled up like a dog waiting for his food. I got a torch to show him the others that were lurking and he was taken away by them. :-6

oscar;1227801 wrote: The entire board on FG knows all about my foxes :wah: Yes, they were driven down to the grounds of the school next door to my home after building on greenbelt. Many get killed on the main road trying to get to the land-fill and the life expectancy of an Urban fox is just 2 years as they get shot, poisoned, hit by cars etc. We just figure it's better to feed them than have them dead. There is around 15 of them although they do not all come at the same time. The average number is around 8 a night. There is quite an operation that goes on behind the scenes to keep them safe and fed including food out-lets giving me meat for them. I have never tried to tame them and never hand feed them except for one's that have been brought to me injured, to keep their wild instincts. The Alpha Pack Leader has been coming for years and has started to become tame and will brush against my legs. Yes, they come to the garden every night at a certain time although we keep the location top secret to keep them safe.

We had a police officer round the house one night and he left in the early hours of the morning. He was astonished to come out my front door and find the pack leader curled up like a dog waiting for his food. I got a torch to show him the others that were lurking and he was taken away by them. :-6


you lucky lucky thing!

have you ever posted any pics of them on the forum? i'd love to see them if you have!

Oops;1227819 wrote: you lucky lucky thing!

have you ever posted any pics of them on the forum? i'd love to see them if you have!
I do have one pic and some of rescue's but it is incredibly hard to get them on film. When I go out to them I have a large tray of food in one hand and the flashlight in the other so It's impossible to hold a camera as well. If my husband comes out with me, they will not come so close and all you get is red eyes on the pics. We are getting a new cam recorder with zoom lens so he can get them by hanging out of the window. Then I hope to be able to post them up here. :-6 One shows a cat eating with them although it's not my pic. :-6

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Thanks Oscar!

Arent they absolutely beautiful :-4

Oops;1227825 wrote: Thanks Oscar!

Arent they absolutely beautiful :-4 I was an active campaigner for many years among with thousands of others to abolish fox hunting in this country but orphan cubs are still an issue due to the parents being poisoned or shot.

oscar;1227822 wrote: I do have one pic and some of rescue's but it is incredibly hard to get them on film. When I go out to them I have a large tray of food in one hand and the flashlight in the other so It's impossible to hold a camera as well. If my husband comes out with me, they will not come so close and all you get is red eyes on the pics. We are getting a new cam recorder with zoom lens so he can get them by hanging out of the window. Then I hope to be able to post them up here. :-6 One shows a cat eating with them although it's not my pic. :-6


awwwwwwwww still love seeing these, first time seeing a fox and cat eating together, cool!



Oops, aren't they sweet?

Odie;1227959 wrote: awwwwwwwww still love seeing these, first time seeing a fox and cat eating together, cool!



Oops, aren't they sweet?


They sure are! im incredibly jealous :-4

So many people see them as vermin though, its a shame

Oops;1227969 wrote: They sure are! im incredibly jealous :-4

So many people see them as vermin though, its a shame


in some places, yes, they are pests, but not where Julie lives.



they kill ranchers and owners ducks & livestock etc.

Oops;1227969 wrote: They sure are! im incredibly jealous :-4

So many people see them as vermin though, its a shame When you are lucky enough to see them every night for years, you learn what loving sociable critters they are. I have stood there at night and watched incredible scenes of them grooming each other and protecting their cubs. They also have a very strict pecking order and social ladder. I've also learned they find marmalade bitter :wah:

oscar;1227980 wrote: When you are lucky enough to see them every night for years, you learn what loving sociable critters they are. I have stood there at night and watched incredible scenes of them grooming each other and protecting their cubs. They also have a very strict pecking order and social ladder. I've also learned they find marmalade bitter :wah:


They have good taste! i hate it too :wah:

Odie;1227971 wrote: in some places, yes, they are pests, but not where Julie lives.



they kill ranchers and owners ducks & livestock etc. I've said it many times on the forum Joan but I have no problem with a farmer shooting a fox if It's a danger to lambing etc as long as It's humane.

The are mine are in, they are no threat to anything or anybody. :-6

I've just had a late night phone call from an Informer to give me some news. :-6:-6:-6