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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:36 pm
by Nomad
Your above reply. I want....need....am having overwhelming uncontrollable urges to analyze you.









Can you yodel ?

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:40 pm
by BabyRider
Nomad wrote: Your above reply. I want....need....am having overwhelming uncontrollable urges to analyze you.









Can you yodel ?
This is the thread to say whatever you wish to me. That's one of the reasons I started it. I may not like all the questions or replies I get, you may not like all the answers or comments I give. Have at it anyway.

When I had an issue with you doing that before, it stemmed from a feeling that you were implying I was pretending to be something I wasn't. Quit walking on eggshells around me, Puddles. If something bugs me, I'll tell you, humiliate you, then ignore you.



No, I cannot yodel as a rule. Only in certain moments of pure ecstasy.

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Like when eating chocolate!!!! (What did YOU think I meant?) Gutter-brain.

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:46 pm
by Nomad
Im not walking on eggshells...theyre your answers and you call em like you see em. Thats enough.





Do you have a favorite board game ?

Have you played any sports ?

Can you sing ?

Cmon....Thanksgiving ??? You have a problem with Thanksgiving ??? Really ???

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:56 pm
by Nomad
BabyRider wrote: This is an excellent, and very difficult question.

I believe that people are getting worse. I think that at one point, a long damn time ago, people were basically good. That's changing though. You see it every day, read about it in the papers, see it on the news and in world events. Even in our personal lives, we see how people are becoming more selfish, thoughtless, concerned only about themselves and what will get them ahead or have some benefit to them. The drive to succeed, to "keep up with the Jonses" and to get everything they can in this life at the expense of decency, kindness, compassion or respect is disturbing, and unfortunately obvious. I remember a time when it wasn't as bad, but I see it getting worse and worse as time goes on. I believe we are on our way to annihilation and anarchy. It will take generations for us to get there, but it's inevitable, in my mind.




Ok. In a nutshell I dont think people have changed that much. The world around us has changed to be sure, and weve had to learn to keep up with it perhaps stealing some of our time away. But I think if you could randomly visit homes, families, sit down to dinner with people all over from different backgrounds do you really think were that far away from 1957 ?

Dont you think parents are still teaching their children morals, prodding them to do well in school ? Hoping they make the right friends ? Praying they dont find drugs in their rooms ? Do you think somehow now its ok if Jenny comes home pregnant and has to drop out of 10th grade ? Of course not !



I think the world has evolved yet in our hearts and minds we still want peace in the world, we cry when our soldiers get killed in some hell hole, we decorate the Christmas tree, and give thanks for our blessings. We go to church, we start families, we buy our 1st home, we take care of our pets, we watch sports, we work hard, we laugh, we enjoy our friends. Are things really that different today cuddles ?

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:02 pm
by BabyRider
Nomad wrote: Im not walking on eggshells...theyre your answers and you call em like you see em. Thats enough.





Do you have a favorite board game ?

Have you played any sports ?

Can you sing ?

Cmon....Thanksgiving ??? You have a problem with Thanksgiving ??? Really ???
Yes, I do. I'd still be interested in hearing you expand on that thought just a smidge.



Favorite board game: Right now it's Cranium, but it varies as I play new ones.

I used to play soccer, if you consider shooting pool a sport, then yes, and if you consider hunting and fishing sports, (although of a different sort) then yes again.

I cannot carry a tune with a handle on it, although my grandfather and sister sing beautifully.

Yes, I really have a problem with Thanksgiving. Between all the family obligations I have to juggle and making it to everyone's house so as not to offend anyone, putting up with my mother's guilt trips and snobby, rigid ways, weight gain, shopping, cooking, the fiasco that is ALWAYS my father's gathering and pretending to enjoy my aunt's horrid "oh-but-it-tastes-just-like-turkey-even-though-it's-a-processed-synthetic-vegetable-based-soy-replacement" recipes, yeah, I could sh!t-can the entire holiday season and not bat an eyelash.

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:08 pm
by BabyRider
Nomad wrote: Ok. In a nutshell I dont think people have changed that much. The world around us has changed to be sure, and weve had to learn to keep up with it perhaps stealing some of our time away. But I think if you could randomly visit homes, families, sit down to dinner with people all over from different backgrounds do you really think were that far away from 1957 ?

Dont you think parents are still teaching their children morals, prodding them to do well in school ? Hoping they make the right friends ? Praying they dont find drugs in their rooms ? Do you think somehow now its ok if Jenny comes home pregnant and has to drop out of 10th grade ? Of course not !

I think the world has evolved yet in our hearts and minds we still want peace in the world, we cry when our soldiers get killed in some hell hole, we decorate the Christmas tree, and give thanks for our blessings. We go to church, we start families, we buy our 1st home, we take care of our pets, we watch sports, we work hard, we laugh, we enjoy our friends. Are things really that different today cuddles ?
OK, I am too lazy to go through and wrap quote tags around every separate point here, so you'll just have to bear with me, Puddles.

Your first mistake was this comment:



sit down to dinner


I'm betting that is a rare occurrence anymore, where families sit down around the table together for dinner. Big difference number one.

I think that parents are not, as a rule, teaching their children morals or respect anymore. You see it in the kids today, and they seem to be getting worse. I am bringing up my son the way I was brought up. Saying "please" and "thank you" and standing up when an older person walks into a room and holding doors and helping without having to be told. He is the exception among his friends, not the rule. His friends are not bad kids, but they sure aren't what I would call "acceptable" by my standards. They lip off to their parents, in front of me and their friends, they use language that would not be ok in my house (unless they actually are in my house) and generally do not act the way I would want my son to act.

Hoping and praying they make the right friends and don't do drugs isn't exactly parenting, if you ask me. I would have to call that "wishing." And I'm sure they do, (wish for that) but what is being done to ensure it turns out that way? More parents seem to be relying on the school system to do their parenting for them. That would have been unheard of in the 50's and 60's.

I think you have a very "rose-colored-glasses" view of the world, Nomad, and that's fine. It doesn't make you a bad person. In my mind, it just makes you a little naive. I don't see it getting better. Morality is going down the crapper, priorities are completely ass-backwards, and the key phrase seems to be: Screw your neighbor, look out for yourself at the expense of everything else.

Yeah, I think the world is universes different from 1957, and not getting better anytime soon.

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:30 pm
by Nomad
I dont think Im seeing things through rose colored glasses baby. Families do sit down for dinner, I see it. Im basing my thoughts on what I see, the people I know, how they raise their children. Your doing it, why is it that others cant be as well ?

The people I know that have children, the way they speak of them, their concerns, its no different from the way I was raised, from the way my friends growing up were raised. What are you basing your ideas on ? What you see ? Its only a microcosm, a sampling of whats going on here in America. If your thoughts are based on your perceptions perhaps its your community. Communities will vary from state to state, north to south, culture to culture but when it comes down to it Im not seeing a major difference. We used to mouth off, get in trouble, smoke pot, drink etc. but part of that is just the natural evolution of growing up, it happens in every generation.



So you think America is demoralized....I find that suspiciously anti social and I think your looking at life through very dark sunglasses. I dont mean this as a criticism but rather our perceptions vary. Detroit and Minneapolis might be very different places thus different veiwpoints from different experiences. But back to one thought....knowing your aspirations for your own son, do you really think your unique in that ?

I dont.

I commend you for it but I dont think its a phenomenon to do whats good for your children...rather the norm.

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:59 pm
by BabyRider
I see America as demoralized so that makes me anti-social? I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion. America IS demoralized when I weigh it according to MY morals. I am NOT what you would call "open-minded" about a lot of things, as you well know but what I think is right is just that: What I think is right. And yes, a lot of it is based on my perceptions but perception is reality for whomever is doing the perceiving.



I'm not sure what you mean about me thinking I'm unique. Unique in what?



You edited that last part to answer my question.

No, I don't think I am unique in how I raise my son, but I don't think it is the norm, either. Not from what I see and where I sit.

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:18 pm
by hotsauce
Is there anyone you find scary?

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:30 pm
by BabyRider
hotsauce wrote: Is there anyone you find scary?
2 people: My granny (when she was alive) when she raised her eyebrow a certain way, and myself when I lose my temper.

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:53 am
by Accountable
If you ever meet Nomad in person what would be first: hug, punch in the arm, wedgie, or wet willie?

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:16 pm
by BabyRider
Accountable wrote: If you ever meet Nomad in person what would be first: hug, punch in the arm, wedgie, or wet willie?
It would definitely call for a combo: wedgie and wet willie at the same time.

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:18 pm
by Wolverine
So.

uh...

what'cha wearin' tonite??

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:19 pm
by Wolverine
BabyRider wrote: It would definitely call for a combo: wedgie and wet willie at the same time.
ah crap.

that means i get Wedgied and punched.

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:54 pm
by Jives
BabyRider wrote: I'm betting that is a rare occurrence anymore, where families sit down around the table together for dinner.


I know not one single family that does, sad to say.

I think that parents are not, as a rule, teaching their children morals or respect anymore. You see it in the kids today, and they seem to be getting worse. I am bringing up my son the way I was brought up.


For example, the other day I had to teach a young man that it is impolite to look up a girl's dress. No...really, he was 14 and had no clue.

Saying "please" and "thank you" and standing up when an older person walks into a room and holding doors and helping without having to be told.


Sheesh. How many times a day do I have to remind kids of this? I can't count that high.

His friends are not bad kids, but they sure aren't what I would call "acceptable" by my standards. They lip off to their parents, in front of me and their friends, they use language that would not be ok in my house (unless they actually are in my house) and generally do not act the way I would want my son to act.


And if BR could attend some of the parent / teacher conferences I have, she would see why. The other day, a parent came in with her daughter and another 18 year old. The mother was 35, she was sleeping with the 18 year old, who was the ex-boyfriend of the daughter. While there, the mother let her younger child destroy the room, scream obscenities at her, and steal. Right in front of me!!!

More parents seem to be relying on the school system to do their parenting for them.


Amen. Then they sue us if the kid turns out bad, or we try to instill discipline in them.:mad:

I'm highjacking BR's thread so I'll say just one more thing, there are a lot of parents out there like BR, but many more that are the opposite. Why? I blame the media for giving out the images of uncivility, violence, profanity, and sex so continuously that it's considered "normal" by some parents. The TV make make parenting easier by babysitting children. But it sure doesn't improve the end product of the adult.

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:00 pm
by BabyRider
Jives wrote: I'm highjacking BR's thread
Nope. You're not.

You do see two sides to that story, don't you? The kids who are the result, and the parents who fail to parent.

I'd go nuts, especially since you're really not allowed to instill any discipline. How incredibly frustrating. I feel for ya, Jives.

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:06 pm
by Nomad
BabyRider wrote: It would definitely call for a combo: wedgie and wet willie at the same time.




Then a hug ? :-3

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:18 pm
by Nomad
BabyRider wrote: I see America as demoralized so that makes me anti-social? I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion. America IS demoralized when I weigh it according to MY morals. I am NOT what you would call "open-minded" about a lot of things, as you well know but what I think is right is just that: What I think is right. And yes, a lot of it is based on my perceptions but perception is reality for whomever is doing the perceiving.



I'm not sure what you mean about me thinking I'm unique. Unique in what?



You edited that last part to answer my question.

No, I don't think I am unique in how I raise my son, but I don't think it is the norm, either. Not from what I see and where I sit.




Anti social was probably the wrong word. Pessimistic would be more accurate. Its not that bad in the world baby. I dont think the things I mentioned are exactly rose colored, I think Im quite accurate in saying that for the most part the world still works because people still care. My reference to you being unique is to imply that most parents want the same things for their children that you want for yours. If the biggest thing influencing our kids today is tv and music thats a societal issue and were never going to be 1957 again but in the homes of America I dont think the strategy of child rearing has been corrupted. The instances chives mentioned exist sure, but deviant behavior has alway existed and its the exception not the rule.

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:21 pm
by Jives
Nomad wrote: chives


I thought I asked you not to call me that, so-bad.



No-fad

Grow-bad

So-sad

Fo-lad



AHA! Now I've got you!



Blow-lad!!!

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:56 pm
by BabyRider
Jives wrote: I thought I asked you not to call me that, so-bad.





No-fad

Grow-bad

So-sad

Fo-lad





AHA! Now I've got you!







Blow-lad!!!
Oh THAT'S good!!!

Jives, asking Puddles not to call you something is, in his world, giving permission to use that name consistently. You see how he is always calling me "cuddles"? Yeah. Ya think that was MY idea?? :thinking:



OK, now for this:

Nomad wrote:

Anti social was probably the wrong word. Pessimistic would be more accurate. Its not that bad in the world baby. I dont think the things I mentioned are exactly rose colored, I think Im quite accurate in saying that for the most part the world still works because people still care. My reference to you being unique is to imply that most parents want the same things for their children that you want for yours. If the biggest thing influencing our kids today is tv and music thats a societal issue and were never going to be 1957 again but in the homes of America I dont think the strategy of child rearing has been corrupted. The instances chives mentioned exist sure, but deviant behavior has alway existed and its the exception not the rule.


First off, anti-social is definitely the wrong word and pessimistic is definitely the right word. I have said many times that I am pessimistic, and cynical. And realistic.

OK, fine, parents want the same things for their kids, but they are not willing to put in the same effort and time as parents used to. People are getting lazier, in everything including parenting.

It's not the same as it was, not from where I stand and you can toss out all the gooshy warm fuzzies you want to, I see what I see. Come and hang out in my neighborhood for a year, see what you will see. Just as I hope my perception might change living your life. See what I'm saying?

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:33 pm
by Nomad
Cuddles honey will you do something for me ? Take the cover of the smoke detector off and adjust the camera lens down about 4", its shifted and my remote is on the fritz. I cant see you anymore. Thanks sweets. :)

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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:28 am
by Nomad
Originally Posted by Wolverine

all women have one. Tho the caliber varies...

My ex had a snub-nose .38

LC has a .50cal, belt fed machine gun

and BR(i'm sure) has a Nuclear arsenal





Are you stockpiling while the rest of the world is negotiating reductions in nuclear weaponry ?

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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:06 pm
by BabyRider
Nomad wrote: Originally Posted by Wolverine

all women have one. Tho the caliber varies...

My ex had a snub-nose .38

LC has a .50cal, belt fed machine gun

and BR(i'm sure) has a Nuclear arsenal



Are you stockpiling while the rest of the world is negotiating reductions in nuclear weaponry ?
Governments of small countries would be green with envy.:sneaky:

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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:47 pm
by CountryDweller
I read in another thread that you were a vet tech for several years.

I was wondering why you chose not to stay in that field of work and exactly what did you all do?

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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:50 pm
by Nomad
Nomad wrote: Then a hug ? :-3




?????

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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:14 pm
by Nomad
Do I get a hug or not ? I promise to grope with some class.



When has your life dramatically changed as the result of some seemingly random experience ? How much do you feel in control of the course of your life ?

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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:32 am
by BabyRider
CountryDweller wrote: I read in another thread that you were a vet tech for several years.

I was wondering why you chose not to stay in that field of work and exactly what did you all do?
I chose not to stay in that field because, unfortunately, I can make 3 times the money working in a bar. If money was not an issue, I would still be doing that type of work.

As far as our duties? Doctors diagnose, prescribe medication, and operate. Techs do everything else. Exams, administer vaccs, draw blood, take histories, keep records, perform all lab tests, run the lab, maintain pharmacy, client education, assist in surgery, etc, etc....anything and everything not done by the doctors.

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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:35 am
by BabyRider
Nomad wrote: Do I get a hug or not ? I promise to grope with some class.



When has your life dramatically changed as the result of some seemingly random experience ? How much do you feel in control of the course of your life ?
No hugs, I'm not a real "huggy" kind of person. I like my personal space.



It's very late, and I just got home from work, I'll have to come back to the next part of this tomorrow when I've got some functioning brain power.

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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:38 am
by BabyRider
Far Rider wrote: BR...





While sitting in a church meeting this evening (actually a school meeting) A single question came to mind and I wanted to ask you the question.



I have not asked you any questions yet, so even though this is a religious question I hope you will indulge me slightly.



Please recite the earliest prayer or part of a prayer you remember? And can you tell me who you learned it from?



Curiosity has gotten the better of me.
Wow. That's an odd one, Far. I was never taught specific prayers, (like "Now I lay me down to sleep") we were just told to talk to Jesus and say what we were thankful for and who we wanted Jesus to remember and look after. My mom was usually the one who came in and said prayers with us, but occassionally my dad would.

Can I ask how that question came about?

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:45 am
by Nomad
My name is Qzhxdrfpl. I was one of the aliens who abducted your human friend. Please do not subject us to a specimen like that again. We have been "borrowing" various samples from your varied and diverse supply for years, but have never encountered such an annoying, cheerful, analytical oddity ever. Even when attempting to use our butt probe, he was asking so many questions, our scientists couldn't concentrate and many months of research was rendered useless. We have placed a warning microchip under the skin of this particular subject so as to avoid picking him up again by accident. Some side effects to this chip could be an irresistible need to analyze everyone around him, an unfailing and sickeningly annoying cheerfulness that will try the patience of your nuns, and a naivete that appears endearing but is in fact, dim-wittedness. We doubt very much you will be able to tell the difference from the original specimen. Thank you very much from all the scientific society of planet Wzdblkrpf.



Deep down....maybe as deep as the ocean floor or the bottom of a volcano or even as deep as the center of the earth somewhere nestled in your lovely beating heart is a tiny little microcosm of a place for Nomad. Maybe just a teensy weensy little bit you like me ? Dont ya ? Its ok to admit it.

:-4

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:15 am
by BabyRider
I am shamelessly bumping my own thread in the hopes that all my good pals here will catch me up on the important stuff that I've missed out on since I've gone back to work. Send the dirt, people!! What's been going on around here? I see some new names and some pretty interesting threads, it's going to take me a while to catch back up! How is everyone? I miss hanging out with you guys! :-4 :-4

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:26 am
by Raven
You mean you're missing out on all the fun too? :yh_laugh I guess I'm on too early. Always miss the good stuff!

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:29 am
by BabyRider
Raven wrote: You mean you're missing out on all the fun too? :yh_laugh I guess I'm on too early. Always miss the good stuff!
It's like, 8:30 in the morning where you are, right Raven? It's 4:30 am here, but I had to jump on here for a bit after closing down the bar. Starting to fade, though.

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:36 am
by Raven
Actually it's 9:33. Just been home a couple hours myself! Worked the graveyard last night. And NOW I'm closing down the bar! LOL!! Baileys on the rocks......nice!:yh_bigsmi

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:38 am
by BabyRider
Raven wrote: Actually it's 9:33. Just been home a couple hours myself! Worked the graveyard last night. And NOW I'm closing down the bar! LOL!! Baileys on the rocks......nice!:yh_bigsmi
Wow, I must be zoned out....I just remembered your local time is displayed right there in your info window. Cool little feature that Tombstone added that slipped right by me in my near-comatose state.

Enjoy your Bailey's!! Yum!

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:42 am
by Raven
Trust me Baby! After last night.....I AM!! CHEERS!

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:04 am
by Accountable
BabyRider wrote: I am shamelessly bumping my own thread in the hopes that all my good pals here will catch me up on the important stuff that I've missed out on since I've gone back to work. Send the dirt, people!! What's been going on around here? I see some new names and some pretty interesting threads, it's going to take me a while to catch back up! How is everyone? I miss hanging out with you guys! :-4 :-4
Employment sucks like that, doesn't it? I'm working now, too, and can only lurk after the fact on most of this stuff. I guess Galbally is about the best newbie lately. Have you caught his posts?

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:22 am
by abbey
Accountable wrote: I guess Galbally is about the best newbie lately. Have you caught his posts?I'll second that, he's the best thing to come out of Ireland since the Nolans! :yh_worry :yh_giggle

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:48 am
by chrisb84uk
BabyRider wrote: I am shamelessly bumping my own thread in the hopes that all my good pals here will catch me up on the important stuff that I've missed out on since I've gone back to work. Send the dirt, people!! What's been going on around here? I see some new names and some pretty interesting threads, it's going to take me a while to catch back up! How is everyone? I miss hanging out with you guys! :-4 :-4


Ah as we have all missed u BR, but it's great to have u back!!! :)

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:36 am
by valerie
Well, BR, I'm confused on the local time thing! For instance, ACC's local

time says 10:30 or so yet mine says 5:30 for his post, and I know for a

fact Texas isn't 5 hours ahead of me!



:confused: :-3

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:21 pm
by Nomad
If you ever reach total enlightenment while you're drinking a beer, I bet it makes beer shoot out your nose. I bet you see that all the time at your bar.

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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:38 am
by Nomad
Cuddles, have you ever been snowmobiling ?

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:45 pm
by Accountable
Bump in celebration of your anniversary, BR!



Nomad told me to ask you:



Since we have to purchase foil to make hats, and said purchases are made from corporations, and corporation ownership is traded on the stock market, and it is established fact that aliens control the stock market, are we not funding the research in how to overcome the blocking effects of the aluminum hats by the very act of gettin them?

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:47 pm
by Nomad
Good job ! She'll know. ;)

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:14 pm
by computerchic8301
I herd you have been drink free for sometime now. Congrats. It takes a lot of will and strength to overcome something like that. I wish you the best and to keep up the good work:-6

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:17 pm
by BabyRider
Accountable wrote: are we not funding the research in how to overcome the blocking effects of the aluminum hats by the very act of gettin them?
Yes.