LarsMac;1518715 wrote: Fascinating.
I think I might enjoy reading your explanation of how a rather poor photograph of a carcass of an undeterminable species, might disprove the entire Darwinian line of thought.
Even if that creature were proved to be a once living creature that had been around for 200 million years without our knowledge, that would only actually prove Darwin's theories.
Don't have a lot of time right now, but according to evolutionists, Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago long before man supposedly evolved from apes. They need that to be true for their false theory to be true. It can pre proven that dinosaurs lived with men through historical writings, cave drawings, sculptures all over the world.
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xfrodobagginsx;1518720 wrote: Don't have a lot of time right now, but according to evolutionists, Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago long before man supposedly evolved from apes. They need that to be true for their false theory to be true. It can pre proven that dinosaurs lived with men through historical writings, cave drawings, sculptures all over the world.
Actually, I don't think Evolutionists really care whether Dinosaurs lived or died. But the fact that there is no substantial evidence that any lived in the last few thousand years, makes it quite surprising if one happened to show up.
However, that picture offers no real proof that the critter in question is a Plesiosaur.
Actually, I don't think Evolutionists really care whether Dinosaurs lived or died. But the fact that there is no substantial evidence that any lived in the last few thousand years, makes it quite surprising if one happened to show up.
However, that picture offers no real proof that the critter in question is a Plesiosaur.
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LarsMac;1518721 wrote: Actually, I don't think Evolutionists really care whether Dinosaurs lived or died. But the fact that there is no substantial evidence that any lived in the last few thousand years, makes it quite surprising if one happened to show up.
However, that picture offers no real proof that the critter in question is a Plesiosaur.
Actually there are historical writings from Marco Polo, Alexander the Great, Arastatle, St. George, The Epic of Gilgamesh, Antonio Pilofetta, Edeisy and others that describe dinosaurs in detail. Also, the Bible describes dinosaurs in detail.
There are sculptures of dinosaurs, cave drawings and other evidences that you will ignore.
However, that picture offers no real proof that the critter in question is a Plesiosaur.
Actually there are historical writings from Marco Polo, Alexander the Great, Arastatle, St. George, The Epic of Gilgamesh, Antonio Pilofetta, Edeisy and others that describe dinosaurs in detail. Also, the Bible describes dinosaurs in detail.
There are sculptures of dinosaurs, cave drawings and other evidences that you will ignore.
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xfrodobagginsx;1518735 wrote: Actually there are historical writings from Marco Polo, Alexander the Great, Arastatle, St. George, The Epic of Gilgamesh, Antonio Pilofetta, Edeisy and others that describe dinosaurs in detail. Also, the Bible describes dinosaurs in detail.
There are sculptures of dinosaurs, cave drawings and other evidences that you will ignore.
You've read these writings,yourself, have you?
There are sculptures of dinosaurs, cave drawings and other evidences that you will ignore.
You've read these writings,yourself, have you?
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LarsMac;1518736 wrote: You've read these writings,yourself, have you?
Many of these writings are pretty clearly dinosaurs. Sometimes the creatures are called 'Dragons' which was the word used for dinosaurs before the word dinosaur was coined in the 1800s.
Here are some of the writings:
Dinosaurs in History:
Dinosaurs in History
Kent Hovind also proved very clearly that Dinosaurs lived with men.
Many of these writings are pretty clearly dinosaurs. Sometimes the creatures are called 'Dragons' which was the word used for dinosaurs before the word dinosaur was coined in the 1800s.
Here are some of the writings:
Dinosaurs in History:
Dinosaurs in History
Kent Hovind also proved very clearly that Dinosaurs lived with men.
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LarsMac;1518736 wrote: You've read these writings,yourself, have you?
xfrodobagginsx;1518739 wrote: Many of these writings are pretty clearly dinosaurs. Sometimes the creatures are called 'Dragons' which was the word used for dinosaurs before the word dinosaur was coined in the 1800s.
Here are some of the writings:
Dinosaurs in History:
Dinosaurs in History
Kent Hovind also proved very clearly that Dinosaurs lived with men.
So, no, then.
xfrodobagginsx;1518739 wrote: Many of these writings are pretty clearly dinosaurs. Sometimes the creatures are called 'Dragons' which was the word used for dinosaurs before the word dinosaur was coined in the 1800s.
Here are some of the writings:
Dinosaurs in History:
Dinosaurs in History
Kent Hovind also proved very clearly that Dinosaurs lived with men.
So, no, then.
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LarsMac;1518743 wrote: So, no, then.
The answer is yes and I provided you with a link to them. Here are 3 of them and there are many more. Are they fake?
Herodotus' Account of Flying Reptiles
Herodotus was a Greek historian who lived in the 5th century BC from (484 b.c.-425 b.c.) Many scholars refer to him as "the Father of History" in Western culture. He was the first historian known to collect his materials systematically, test their accuracy and arrange them in a vivid narrative.
In his work,The History of Herodotus, Book 2, Herodotus records an interesting report of flying winged serpents. It is interesting to note that there are no living winged serpents in our day. Things go extinct. These accounts cannot be overlooked and do much to show that our presuppositions about flying reptiles and dinosaurs are flawed. The account is quoted from his work, The History of Herodotus:
Learn about this account and more. Watch the movie: Forbidden History.
"There is a region moreover in Arabia, situated nearly over against the city of Buto, to which place I came to inquire about the winged serpents: and when I came thither I saw bones of serpents and spines in quantity so great that it is impossible to make report of the number, and there were heaps of spines, some heaps large and others less large and others smaller still than these, and these heaps were many in number."
"The region in which the spines are scattered upon the ground is of the nature of an entrance from a narrow mountain pass to a great plain, which plain adjoins the plain of Egypt;
"and the story goes that at the beginning of spring winged serpents from Arabia fly towards Egypt, and the birds called ibises meet them at the entrance of this country and do not suffer the serpents to go by but kill them. On account of this deed it is (say the Arabians) that the ibis has come to be greatly honored by the Egyptians, and the Egyptians also agree that it is for this reason that they honor these birds."
The quotation goes on to describe the ibis and then continues on with the description of the winged serpents as follows:
"As for the serpent its form is like that of the watersnake; and it has wings not feathered but most nearly resembling the wings of the bat. Let so much suffice as has been said now concerning sacred animals."
The History of Herodotus, Part II, #75 & 76.Check out the source material for yourself.
There are other accounts of flying serpents throughout history which will be chronicled here as more pages are added. Check back frequently to learn more about the amazing history of man and dinosaur.
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History to see more evidence.
Pliny the Elder wrote About Dragons
Gaius Plinius Secundus, better known as Pliny the Elder, was an author, naturalist, and natural philosopher as well as a naval and army commander of the early Roman Empire. He lived from 23 A.D to 79 A.D. He spent most of his time studying, writing or investigating natural and geographic phenomena in the field. He wrote an encyclopedic work, Naturalis Historia, or Natural History.
Natural History, consists of 37 books covering mathematics, geography, anthropology, zoology, botany, agriculture, pharmacology, mineralogy, and much more.
In Book Eight of Natural History, we find some fairly detailed information about "dragons." Book Eight also contains information about Crocodiles, Serpents, and other reptiles, ruling out these as candidates for the dragon. From the reading, It could be that the "dragons" mentioned here meant the largest of all snakes, the size of which is now extinct or are very rare today. The following are quotes from Book Eight: Chapters XI, XII, & XIII, XVII. (source document: Book Eight of Natural History.)
To learn about this account and more. Watch the movie: Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible.
Book Eight: Chap. XI: "Elephants breed in that part of Affricke which lyeth beyond the deserts....India bringeth fouth the biggest: as also the dragons that are continually at variance with them, and evermore fighting, and those of such greatnesse, that they can easily claspe and wind round about the Elephants, and withall tye them fast with a knot. In this conflict they die, both the one and the other:"
"the Elephant hee falls downe dead as conquered, and with his heavie weight crusheth and squeaseth the dragon that his wound and wreathed about him."
Chapter XII: "...the dragons ware hereof, entangle and snarle his feet and legges first with their taile: the Elephants on the other side, undoe those knots wiht their trunke as with a hand....the principall thing the dragons make at is the eye...Now these dragons are so big withall, that they be able to receive all the Elephants bloud. Thus they are sucked drie, untill they fall down dead..."
Chapter XIII: "In Ethyopia there be as great dragons bred, as in India, namely twentie cubits long.(approx. 30 feet)
Also noted in chapter XIIII is the following interesting quote:
"Megasthenes writeth, that there be serpents among the Indians to that bignesse, that they are able to swallow stags or buls all whole....Attilius Regulaus, generall under the Romanes, during the warres against the Carthaginians, assailed a Serpent neere the river Bagrada, which caried in length 120 foot..."
Book Eight of Natural History. Check out the source material yourself. Go to the link, cut and paste Book Eight into a Word document, save it, and then use the find function to search the word "dragon."
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible. to learn what really happened in the recent past that caused the extinction of most dinosaurs. Also learn what happened to the few survivors.
Marco Polo's Account of Dinosaurs
Marco Polo was a trader and explorer who spent over 20 years traveling through out Asia, Persia, China, and Indonesia. It was his journey which ultimately inspired other men like Christopher Columbus to explore the world. His travels took place from around 1271-1298.
The book,The Travels of Marco Polo, is the written record which chronicles the adventures and travels that Marco Polo experienced while exploring the eastern world. In part 2, chapter 40, Marco Polo reports what he describes as "huge serpents". The descriptions given sound in many ways no different than descriptions given of the dinosaurs in the text books.
The following is an excerpt from Marco Polo's book in which he describes a dinosaur:
Don't like to read? Watch the movie: Forbidden History to learn more.
"Leaving the city of Yachi, and traveling ten days in a westerly direction, you reach the province of Karazan, which is also the name of the chief city....Here are seen huge serpents, ten paces in length (about 30 feet), and ten spans (about 8 feet) girt of the body. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a forepenny loaf (pane da quattro denari) and very glaring."
The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal can approach them without terror. Others are met with of a smaller size, being eight, six, or 5 paces long; and the following method is used for taking them. In the day-time, by reason of great heat, they lurk in caverns, from whence, at night, they issue to seek their food, and whatever beast they meet with and can lay hold of, whether tiger, wolf, or any other, they devour;
"After which they drag themselves towards some lake, spring of water, or river, in order to drink. By their motion in this way along the shore, and their vast weight, they make a deep impression, as if a heavy beam had been drawn along the sands. Those whose employment is to hunt them observe the track by which they are most frequently accustomed to go, and fix into the ground several pieces of wood, armed with sharp iron spikes, which they cover with sand in such a manner as not to be perceptible.
When therefore the animals make their way towards the places they usually haunt, they are wounded by these instruments, and speedily killed. The crows, as soon as they perceive them to be dead, set up to scream; and this serves as a signal to the hunters, who advance the spot, and proceed to separate the skin from the flesh, taking care immediately to secure the gall, which is most highly esteemed in medicine.
In cases of the bite of a mad dog, a penny weight of it, dissolved in wine, is administered. It is also useful in accelerating parturition, when the labor pains of women have come on. A small quantity of it being applied to carbuncles, pustules, or other eruptions on the body, they are presently dispersed; and it is efficacious in many other complaints.
The flesh also of the animal is sold at a dear rate, being thought to have a higher flavor than other kinds of meat, and by all persons it is esteemed a delicacy." (The Travels of Marco Polo, © 1948,Book 2, Chapter XL, pg. 185-186)
Author's Note: You can download the book and read it for yourself from this link: The Travels of Marco Polo: Book 2
It is amazing that so many reports from across so many cultures throughout the world are ignored by the modern day science. The presupposition that dinosaurs died off millions of years ago totally blinds them to the idea that dinosaurs have always existed with man.
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History to see more evidence.
The answer is yes and I provided you with a link to them. Here are 3 of them and there are many more. Are they fake?
Herodotus' Account of Flying Reptiles
Herodotus was a Greek historian who lived in the 5th century BC from (484 b.c.-425 b.c.) Many scholars refer to him as "the Father of History" in Western culture. He was the first historian known to collect his materials systematically, test their accuracy and arrange them in a vivid narrative.
In his work,The History of Herodotus, Book 2, Herodotus records an interesting report of flying winged serpents. It is interesting to note that there are no living winged serpents in our day. Things go extinct. These accounts cannot be overlooked and do much to show that our presuppositions about flying reptiles and dinosaurs are flawed. The account is quoted from his work, The History of Herodotus:
Learn about this account and more. Watch the movie: Forbidden History.
"There is a region moreover in Arabia, situated nearly over against the city of Buto, to which place I came to inquire about the winged serpents: and when I came thither I saw bones of serpents and spines in quantity so great that it is impossible to make report of the number, and there were heaps of spines, some heaps large and others less large and others smaller still than these, and these heaps were many in number."
"The region in which the spines are scattered upon the ground is of the nature of an entrance from a narrow mountain pass to a great plain, which plain adjoins the plain of Egypt;
"and the story goes that at the beginning of spring winged serpents from Arabia fly towards Egypt, and the birds called ibises meet them at the entrance of this country and do not suffer the serpents to go by but kill them. On account of this deed it is (say the Arabians) that the ibis has come to be greatly honored by the Egyptians, and the Egyptians also agree that it is for this reason that they honor these birds."
The quotation goes on to describe the ibis and then continues on with the description of the winged serpents as follows:
"As for the serpent its form is like that of the watersnake; and it has wings not feathered but most nearly resembling the wings of the bat. Let so much suffice as has been said now concerning sacred animals."
The History of Herodotus, Part II, #75 & 76.Check out the source material for yourself.
There are other accounts of flying serpents throughout history which will be chronicled here as more pages are added. Check back frequently to learn more about the amazing history of man and dinosaur.
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History to see more evidence.
Pliny the Elder wrote About Dragons
Gaius Plinius Secundus, better known as Pliny the Elder, was an author, naturalist, and natural philosopher as well as a naval and army commander of the early Roman Empire. He lived from 23 A.D to 79 A.D. He spent most of his time studying, writing or investigating natural and geographic phenomena in the field. He wrote an encyclopedic work, Naturalis Historia, or Natural History.
Natural History, consists of 37 books covering mathematics, geography, anthropology, zoology, botany, agriculture, pharmacology, mineralogy, and much more.
In Book Eight of Natural History, we find some fairly detailed information about "dragons." Book Eight also contains information about Crocodiles, Serpents, and other reptiles, ruling out these as candidates for the dragon. From the reading, It could be that the "dragons" mentioned here meant the largest of all snakes, the size of which is now extinct or are very rare today. The following are quotes from Book Eight: Chapters XI, XII, & XIII, XVII. (source document: Book Eight of Natural History.)
To learn about this account and more. Watch the movie: Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible.
Book Eight: Chap. XI: "Elephants breed in that part of Affricke which lyeth beyond the deserts....India bringeth fouth the biggest: as also the dragons that are continually at variance with them, and evermore fighting, and those of such greatnesse, that they can easily claspe and wind round about the Elephants, and withall tye them fast with a knot. In this conflict they die, both the one and the other:"
"the Elephant hee falls downe dead as conquered, and with his heavie weight crusheth and squeaseth the dragon that his wound and wreathed about him."
Chapter XII: "...the dragons ware hereof, entangle and snarle his feet and legges first with their taile: the Elephants on the other side, undoe those knots wiht their trunke as with a hand....the principall thing the dragons make at is the eye...Now these dragons are so big withall, that they be able to receive all the Elephants bloud. Thus they are sucked drie, untill they fall down dead..."
Chapter XIII: "In Ethyopia there be as great dragons bred, as in India, namely twentie cubits long.(approx. 30 feet)
Also noted in chapter XIIII is the following interesting quote:
"Megasthenes writeth, that there be serpents among the Indians to that bignesse, that they are able to swallow stags or buls all whole....Attilius Regulaus, generall under the Romanes, during the warres against the Carthaginians, assailed a Serpent neere the river Bagrada, which caried in length 120 foot..."
Book Eight of Natural History. Check out the source material yourself. Go to the link, cut and paste Book Eight into a Word document, save it, and then use the find function to search the word "dragon."
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible. to learn what really happened in the recent past that caused the extinction of most dinosaurs. Also learn what happened to the few survivors.
Marco Polo's Account of Dinosaurs
Marco Polo was a trader and explorer who spent over 20 years traveling through out Asia, Persia, China, and Indonesia. It was his journey which ultimately inspired other men like Christopher Columbus to explore the world. His travels took place from around 1271-1298.
The book,The Travels of Marco Polo, is the written record which chronicles the adventures and travels that Marco Polo experienced while exploring the eastern world. In part 2, chapter 40, Marco Polo reports what he describes as "huge serpents". The descriptions given sound in many ways no different than descriptions given of the dinosaurs in the text books.
The following is an excerpt from Marco Polo's book in which he describes a dinosaur:
Don't like to read? Watch the movie: Forbidden History to learn more.
"Leaving the city of Yachi, and traveling ten days in a westerly direction, you reach the province of Karazan, which is also the name of the chief city....Here are seen huge serpents, ten paces in length (about 30 feet), and ten spans (about 8 feet) girt of the body. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a forepenny loaf (pane da quattro denari) and very glaring."
The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal can approach them without terror. Others are met with of a smaller size, being eight, six, or 5 paces long; and the following method is used for taking them. In the day-time, by reason of great heat, they lurk in caverns, from whence, at night, they issue to seek their food, and whatever beast they meet with and can lay hold of, whether tiger, wolf, or any other, they devour;
"After which they drag themselves towards some lake, spring of water, or river, in order to drink. By their motion in this way along the shore, and their vast weight, they make a deep impression, as if a heavy beam had been drawn along the sands. Those whose employment is to hunt them observe the track by which they are most frequently accustomed to go, and fix into the ground several pieces of wood, armed with sharp iron spikes, which they cover with sand in such a manner as not to be perceptible.
When therefore the animals make their way towards the places they usually haunt, they are wounded by these instruments, and speedily killed. The crows, as soon as they perceive them to be dead, set up to scream; and this serves as a signal to the hunters, who advance the spot, and proceed to separate the skin from the flesh, taking care immediately to secure the gall, which is most highly esteemed in medicine.
In cases of the bite of a mad dog, a penny weight of it, dissolved in wine, is administered. It is also useful in accelerating parturition, when the labor pains of women have come on. A small quantity of it being applied to carbuncles, pustules, or other eruptions on the body, they are presently dispersed; and it is efficacious in many other complaints.
The flesh also of the animal is sold at a dear rate, being thought to have a higher flavor than other kinds of meat, and by all persons it is esteemed a delicacy." (The Travels of Marco Polo, © 1948,Book 2, Chapter XL, pg. 185-186)
Author's Note: You can download the book and read it for yourself from this link: The Travels of Marco Polo: Book 2
It is amazing that so many reports from across so many cultures throughout the world are ignored by the modern day science. The presupposition that dinosaurs died off millions of years ago totally blinds them to the idea that dinosaurs have always existed with man.
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History to see more evidence.
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xfrodobagginsx;1518763 wrote: The answer is yes and I provided you with a link to them. Here are 3 of them and there are many more. Are they fake?
Herodotus' Account of Flying Reptiles
Herodotus was a Greek historian who lived in the 5th century BC from (484 b.c.-425 b.c.) Many scholars refer to him as "the Father of History" in Western culture. He was the first historian known to collect his materials systematically, test their accuracy and arrange them in a vivid narrative.
In his work,The History of Herodotus, Book 2, Herodotus records an interesting report of flying winged serpents. It is interesting to note that there are no living winged serpents in our day. Things go extinct. These accounts cannot be overlooked and do much to show that our presuppositions about flying reptiles and dinosaurs are flawed. The account is quoted from his work, The History of Herodotus:
Learn about this account and more. Watch the movie: Forbidden History.
"There is a region moreover in Arabia, situated nearly over against the city of Buto, to which place I came to inquire about the winged serpents: and when I came thither I saw bones of serpents and spines in quantity so great that it is impossible to make report of the number, and there were heaps of spines, some heaps large and others less large and others smaller still than these, and these heaps were many in number."
"The region in which the spines are scattered upon the ground is of the nature of an entrance from a narrow mountain pass to a great plain, which plain adjoins the plain of Egypt;
"and the story goes that at the beginning of spring winged serpents from Arabia fly towards Egypt, and the birds called ibises meet them at the entrance of this country and do not suffer the serpents to go by but kill them. On account of this deed it is (say the Arabians) that the ibis has come to be greatly honored by the Egyptians, and the Egyptians also agree that it is for this reason that they honor these birds."
The quotation goes on to describe the ibis and then continues on with the description of the winged serpents as follows:
"As for the serpent its form is like that of the watersnake; and it has wings not feathered but most nearly resembling the wings of the bat. Let so much suffice as has been said now concerning sacred animals."
The History of Herodotus, Part II, #75 & 76.Check out the source material for yourself.
There are other accounts of flying serpents throughout history which will be chronicled here as more pages are added. Check back frequently to learn more about the amazing history of man and dinosaur.
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History to see more evidence.
Pliny the Elder wrote About Dragons
Gaius Plinius Secundus, better known as Pliny the Elder, was an author, naturalist, and natural philosopher as well as a naval and army commander of the early Roman Empire. He lived from 23 A.D to 79 A.D. He spent most of his time studying, writing or investigating natural and geographic phenomena in the field. He wrote an encyclopedic work, Naturalis Historia, or Natural History.
Natural History, consists of 37 books covering mathematics, geography, anthropology, zoology, botany, agriculture, pharmacology, mineralogy, and much more.
In Book Eight of Natural History, we find some fairly detailed information about "dragons." Book Eight also contains information about Crocodiles, Serpents, and other reptiles, ruling out these as candidates for the dragon. From the reading, It could be that the "dragons" mentioned here meant the largest of all snakes, the size of which is now extinct or are very rare today. The following are quotes from Book Eight: Chapters XI, XII, & XIII, XVII. (source document: Book Eight of Natural History.)
To learn about this account and more. Watch the movie: Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible.
Book Eight: Chap. XI: "Elephants breed in that part of Affricke which lyeth beyond the deserts....India bringeth fouth the biggest: as also the dragons that are continually at variance with them, and evermore fighting, and those of such greatnesse, that they can easily claspe and wind round about the Elephants, and withall tye them fast with a knot. In this conflict they die, both the one and the other:"
"the Elephant hee falls downe dead as conquered, and with his heavie weight crusheth and squeaseth the dragon that his wound and wreathed about him."
Chapter XII: "...the dragons ware hereof, entangle and snarle his feet and legges first with their taile: the Elephants on the other side, undoe those knots wiht their trunke as with a hand....the principall thing the dragons make at is the eye...Now these dragons are so big withall, that they be able to receive all the Elephants bloud. Thus they are sucked drie, untill they fall down dead..."
Chapter XIII: "In Ethyopia there be as great dragons bred, as in India, namely twentie cubits long.(approx. 30 feet)
Also noted in chapter XIIII is the following interesting quote:
"Megasthenes writeth, that there be serpents among the Indians to that bignesse, that they are able to swallow stags or buls all whole....Attilius Regulaus, generall under the Romanes, during the warres against the Carthaginians, assailed a Serpent neere the river Bagrada, which caried in length 120 foot..."
Book Eight of Natural History. Check out the source material yourself. Go to the link, cut and paste Book Eight into a Word document, save it, and then use the find function to search the word "dragon."
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible. to learn what really happened in the recent past that caused the extinction of most dinosaurs. Also learn what happened to the few survivors.
Marco Polo's Account of Dinosaurs
Marco Polo was a trader and explorer who spent over 20 years traveling through out Asia, Persia, China, and Indonesia. It was his journey which ultimately inspired other men like Christopher Columbus to explore the world. His travels took place from around 1271-1298.
The book,The Travels of Marco Polo, is the written record which chronicles the adventures and travels that Marco Polo experienced while exploring the eastern world. In part 2, chapter 40, Marco Polo reports what he describes as "huge serpents". The descriptions given sound in many ways no different than descriptions given of the dinosaurs in the text books.
The following is an excerpt from Marco Polo's book in which he describes a dinosaur:
Don't like to read? Watch the movie: Forbidden History to learn more.
"Leaving the city of Yachi, and traveling ten days in a westerly direction, you reach the province of Karazan, which is also the name of the chief city....Here are seen huge serpents, ten paces in length (about 30 feet), and ten spans (about 8 feet) girt of the body. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a forepenny loaf (pane da quattro denari) and very glaring."
The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal can approach them without terror. Others are met with of a smaller size, being eight, six, or 5 paces long; and the following method is used for taking them. In the day-time, by reason of great heat, they lurk in caverns, from whence, at night, they issue to seek their food, and whatever beast they meet with and can lay hold of, whether tiger, wolf, or any other, they devour;
"After which they drag themselves towards some lake, spring of water, or river, in order to drink. By their motion in this way along the shore, and their vast weight, they make a deep impression, as if a heavy beam had been drawn along the sands. Those whose employment is to hunt them observe the track by which they are most frequently accustomed to go, and fix into the ground several pieces of wood, armed with sharp iron spikes, which they cover with sand in such a manner as not to be perceptible.
When therefore the animals make their way towards the places they usually haunt, they are wounded by these instruments, and speedily killed. The crows, as soon as they perceive them to be dead, set up to scream; and this serves as a signal to the hunters, who advance the spot, and proceed to separate the skin from the flesh, taking care immediately to secure the gall, which is most highly esteemed in medicine.
In cases of the bite of a mad dog, a penny weight of it, dissolved in wine, is administered. It is also useful in accelerating parturition, when the labor pains of women have come on. A small quantity of it being applied to carbuncles, pustules, or other eruptions on the body, they are presently dispersed; and it is efficacious in many other complaints.
The flesh also of the animal is sold at a dear rate, being thought to have a higher flavor than other kinds of meat, and by all persons it is esteemed a delicacy." (The Travels of Marco Polo, © 1948,Book 2, Chapter XL, pg. 185-186)
Author's Note: You can download the book and read it for yourself from this link: The Travels of Marco Polo: Book 2
It is amazing that so many reports from across so many cultures throughout the world are ignored by the modern day science. The presupposition that dinosaurs died off millions of years ago totally blinds them to the idea that dinosaurs have always existed with man.
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History to see more evidence.
No, I don't think they are fake. I am sure that those people did, indeed, write those things.
I am curious how such creatures could have wandered the earth, among men, up to a few hundred years ago, and yet we have not a single skin or set of actual bones remaining to show for them, given Man's tendency to collect such thing from other beasts we have shared the Earth with.
Herodotus' Account of Flying Reptiles
Herodotus was a Greek historian who lived in the 5th century BC from (484 b.c.-425 b.c.) Many scholars refer to him as "the Father of History" in Western culture. He was the first historian known to collect his materials systematically, test their accuracy and arrange them in a vivid narrative.
In his work,The History of Herodotus, Book 2, Herodotus records an interesting report of flying winged serpents. It is interesting to note that there are no living winged serpents in our day. Things go extinct. These accounts cannot be overlooked and do much to show that our presuppositions about flying reptiles and dinosaurs are flawed. The account is quoted from his work, The History of Herodotus:
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"There is a region moreover in Arabia, situated nearly over against the city of Buto, to which place I came to inquire about the winged serpents: and when I came thither I saw bones of serpents and spines in quantity so great that it is impossible to make report of the number, and there were heaps of spines, some heaps large and others less large and others smaller still than these, and these heaps were many in number."
"The region in which the spines are scattered upon the ground is of the nature of an entrance from a narrow mountain pass to a great plain, which plain adjoins the plain of Egypt;
"and the story goes that at the beginning of spring winged serpents from Arabia fly towards Egypt, and the birds called ibises meet them at the entrance of this country and do not suffer the serpents to go by but kill them. On account of this deed it is (say the Arabians) that the ibis has come to be greatly honored by the Egyptians, and the Egyptians also agree that it is for this reason that they honor these birds."
The quotation goes on to describe the ibis and then continues on with the description of the winged serpents as follows:
"As for the serpent its form is like that of the watersnake; and it has wings not feathered but most nearly resembling the wings of the bat. Let so much suffice as has been said now concerning sacred animals."
The History of Herodotus, Part II, #75 & 76.Check out the source material for yourself.
There are other accounts of flying serpents throughout history which will be chronicled here as more pages are added. Check back frequently to learn more about the amazing history of man and dinosaur.
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Pliny the Elder wrote About Dragons
Gaius Plinius Secundus, better known as Pliny the Elder, was an author, naturalist, and natural philosopher as well as a naval and army commander of the early Roman Empire. He lived from 23 A.D to 79 A.D. He spent most of his time studying, writing or investigating natural and geographic phenomena in the field. He wrote an encyclopedic work, Naturalis Historia, or Natural History.
Natural History, consists of 37 books covering mathematics, geography, anthropology, zoology, botany, agriculture, pharmacology, mineralogy, and much more.
In Book Eight of Natural History, we find some fairly detailed information about "dragons." Book Eight also contains information about Crocodiles, Serpents, and other reptiles, ruling out these as candidates for the dragon. From the reading, It could be that the "dragons" mentioned here meant the largest of all snakes, the size of which is now extinct or are very rare today. The following are quotes from Book Eight: Chapters XI, XII, & XIII, XVII. (source document: Book Eight of Natural History.)
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Book Eight: Chap. XI: "Elephants breed in that part of Affricke which lyeth beyond the deserts....India bringeth fouth the biggest: as also the dragons that are continually at variance with them, and evermore fighting, and those of such greatnesse, that they can easily claspe and wind round about the Elephants, and withall tye them fast with a knot. In this conflict they die, both the one and the other:"
"the Elephant hee falls downe dead as conquered, and with his heavie weight crusheth and squeaseth the dragon that his wound and wreathed about him."
Chapter XII: "...the dragons ware hereof, entangle and snarle his feet and legges first with their taile: the Elephants on the other side, undoe those knots wiht their trunke as with a hand....the principall thing the dragons make at is the eye...Now these dragons are so big withall, that they be able to receive all the Elephants bloud. Thus they are sucked drie, untill they fall down dead..."
Chapter XIII: "In Ethyopia there be as great dragons bred, as in India, namely twentie cubits long.(approx. 30 feet)
Also noted in chapter XIIII is the following interesting quote:
"Megasthenes writeth, that there be serpents among the Indians to that bignesse, that they are able to swallow stags or buls all whole....Attilius Regulaus, generall under the Romanes, during the warres against the Carthaginians, assailed a Serpent neere the river Bagrada, which caried in length 120 foot..."
Book Eight of Natural History. Check out the source material yourself. Go to the link, cut and paste Book Eight into a Word document, save it, and then use the find function to search the word "dragon."
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Marco Polo's Account of Dinosaurs
Marco Polo was a trader and explorer who spent over 20 years traveling through out Asia, Persia, China, and Indonesia. It was his journey which ultimately inspired other men like Christopher Columbus to explore the world. His travels took place from around 1271-1298.
The book,The Travels of Marco Polo, is the written record which chronicles the adventures and travels that Marco Polo experienced while exploring the eastern world. In part 2, chapter 40, Marco Polo reports what he describes as "huge serpents". The descriptions given sound in many ways no different than descriptions given of the dinosaurs in the text books.
The following is an excerpt from Marco Polo's book in which he describes a dinosaur:
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"Leaving the city of Yachi, and traveling ten days in a westerly direction, you reach the province of Karazan, which is also the name of the chief city....Here are seen huge serpents, ten paces in length (about 30 feet), and ten spans (about 8 feet) girt of the body. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a forepenny loaf (pane da quattro denari) and very glaring."
The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal can approach them without terror. Others are met with of a smaller size, being eight, six, or 5 paces long; and the following method is used for taking them. In the day-time, by reason of great heat, they lurk in caverns, from whence, at night, they issue to seek their food, and whatever beast they meet with and can lay hold of, whether tiger, wolf, or any other, they devour;
"After which they drag themselves towards some lake, spring of water, or river, in order to drink. By their motion in this way along the shore, and their vast weight, they make a deep impression, as if a heavy beam had been drawn along the sands. Those whose employment is to hunt them observe the track by which they are most frequently accustomed to go, and fix into the ground several pieces of wood, armed with sharp iron spikes, which they cover with sand in such a manner as not to be perceptible.
When therefore the animals make their way towards the places they usually haunt, they are wounded by these instruments, and speedily killed. The crows, as soon as they perceive them to be dead, set up to scream; and this serves as a signal to the hunters, who advance the spot, and proceed to separate the skin from the flesh, taking care immediately to secure the gall, which is most highly esteemed in medicine.
In cases of the bite of a mad dog, a penny weight of it, dissolved in wine, is administered. It is also useful in accelerating parturition, when the labor pains of women have come on. A small quantity of it being applied to carbuncles, pustules, or other eruptions on the body, they are presently dispersed; and it is efficacious in many other complaints.
The flesh also of the animal is sold at a dear rate, being thought to have a higher flavor than other kinds of meat, and by all persons it is esteemed a delicacy." (The Travels of Marco Polo, © 1948,Book 2, Chapter XL, pg. 185-186)
Author's Note: You can download the book and read it for yourself from this link: The Travels of Marco Polo: Book 2
It is amazing that so many reports from across so many cultures throughout the world are ignored by the modern day science. The presupposition that dinosaurs died off millions of years ago totally blinds them to the idea that dinosaurs have always existed with man.
Watch the FREE movie: Forbidden History to see more evidence.
No, I don't think they are fake. I am sure that those people did, indeed, write those things.
I am curious how such creatures could have wandered the earth, among men, up to a few hundred years ago, and yet we have not a single skin or set of actual bones remaining to show for them, given Man's tendency to collect such thing from other beasts we have shared the Earth with.
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LarsMac;1518764 wrote: No, I don't think they are fake. I am sure that those people did, indeed, write those things.
I am curious how such creatures could have wandered the earth, among men, up to a few hundred years ago, and yet we have not a single skin or set of actual bones remaining to show for them, given Man's tendency to collect such thing from other beasts we have shared the Earth with.
Here is your problem. The evolutionists vehemently deny that Dinosaurs lived with men. They say that they died out 65 million years ago. They NEED for that to be true for their theory to hold, but it's easily disproved. They DO have bones that are from those times, but the flawed dating methods date them to be millions of years old. Also, they have discovered soft tissue in many dinosaur bones, which could only last a few thousand years at best. The evolutionists won't even admit that those fossils aren't millions of years old.
The Dino Directory - When did dinosaurs live? - Natural History Museum
I am curious how such creatures could have wandered the earth, among men, up to a few hundred years ago, and yet we have not a single skin or set of actual bones remaining to show for them, given Man's tendency to collect such thing from other beasts we have shared the Earth with.
Here is your problem. The evolutionists vehemently deny that Dinosaurs lived with men. They say that they died out 65 million years ago. They NEED for that to be true for their theory to hold, but it's easily disproved. They DO have bones that are from those times, but the flawed dating methods date them to be millions of years old. Also, they have discovered soft tissue in many dinosaur bones, which could only last a few thousand years at best. The evolutionists won't even admit that those fossils aren't millions of years old.
The Dino Directory - When did dinosaurs live? - Natural History Museum
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xfrodobagginsx;1518765 wrote: Here is your problem. The evolutionists vehemently deny that Dinosaurs lived with men. They say that they died out 65 million years ago. They NEED for that to be true for their theory to hold, but it's easily disproved. They DO have bones that are from those times, but the flawed dating methods date them to be millions of years old. Also, they have discovered soft tissue in many dinosaur bones, which could only last a few thousand years at best. The evolutionists won't even admit that those fossils aren't millions of years old.
The Dino Directory - When did dinosaurs live? - Natural History Museum
Sorry, but that is not MY problem.
I actually don't know any "Evolutionists"
I do know what I have read in the Science Journals, and such.
So, again, what do you suppose happened to the dinosaurs, if they only died out in the last few centuries?
As for "Soft Tissue"
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 115306469/
The Dino Directory - When did dinosaurs live? - Natural History Museum
Sorry, but that is not MY problem.
I actually don't know any "Evolutionists"
I do know what I have read in the Science Journals, and such.
So, again, what do you suppose happened to the dinosaurs, if they only died out in the last few centuries?
As for "Soft Tissue"
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 115306469/
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LarsMac;1518766 wrote: Sorry, but that is not MY problem.
I actually don't know any "Evolutionists"
I do know what I have read in the Science Journals, and such.
So, again, what do you suppose happened to the dinosaurs, if they only died out in the last few centuries?
As for "Soft Tissue"
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 115306469/
I believe that there may well be dinosaurs living today in remote areas. Creationists believe that before Noah's flood, the earth was like a giant hyperbaric chamber which allowed animals to live 10x longer and get much larger. They also believe that Dinosaurs are Lizards, NOT bird decedents as the Evolutionists do. Lizards never stop growing and if a lizard could live much longer and healthier, it would grow to the great sizes that we see fossilized in the rocks. Any dinosaurs that would live today would be much smaller than the ancients. Before the flood there was also a canopy of water around the earth which protected animals and man from the sun's harmful rays, resulting in long life. When the flood began, the canopy was broken which is why it rained for 40 days and nights. It resulted in animals living much shorter lives and less healthy lives.
There is no way that soft tissue could survive in a bone for 65 million years. They aren't understanding that the soft tissue is actually evidence to show that the dinosaurs aren't really 65 million years old.
https://creation.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue
I actually don't know any "Evolutionists"
I do know what I have read in the Science Journals, and such.
So, again, what do you suppose happened to the dinosaurs, if they only died out in the last few centuries?
As for "Soft Tissue"
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 115306469/
I believe that there may well be dinosaurs living today in remote areas. Creationists believe that before Noah's flood, the earth was like a giant hyperbaric chamber which allowed animals to live 10x longer and get much larger. They also believe that Dinosaurs are Lizards, NOT bird decedents as the Evolutionists do. Lizards never stop growing and if a lizard could live much longer and healthier, it would grow to the great sizes that we see fossilized in the rocks. Any dinosaurs that would live today would be much smaller than the ancients. Before the flood there was also a canopy of water around the earth which protected animals and man from the sun's harmful rays, resulting in long life. When the flood began, the canopy was broken which is why it rained for 40 days and nights. It resulted in animals living much shorter lives and less healthy lives.
There is no way that soft tissue could survive in a bone for 65 million years. They aren't understanding that the soft tissue is actually evidence to show that the dinosaurs aren't really 65 million years old.
https://creation.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue
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xfrodobagginsx;1518786 wrote: I believe that there may well be dinosaurs living today in remote areas. Creationists believe that before Noah's flood, the earth was like a giant hyperbaric chamber which allowed animals to live 10x longer and get much larger. They also believe that Dinosaurs are Lizards, NOT bird decedents as the Evolutionists do. Lizards never stop growing and if a lizard could live much longer and healthier, it would grow to the great sizes that we see fossilized in the rocks. Any dinosaurs that would live today would be much smaller than the ancients. Before the flood there was also a canopy of water around the earth which protected animals and man from the sun's harmful rays, resulting in long life. When the flood began, the canopy was broken which is why it rained for 40 days and nights. It resulted in animals living much shorter lives and less healthy lives.
Y'all just make this sht up as you go along, don't you?
Y'all just make this sht up as you go along, don't you?
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LarsMac;1518787 wrote: Y'all just make this sht up as you go along, don't you?
No I think you do. You obviously don't listen or comprehend what I am saying. There is a lot of science behind creationism and it's based on the same evidence as the faulty evolutionist theory. It's been around longer than evolution too. It's too bad that the public schools won't allow both sides to be presented because they are afraid of the diversity of thought of hearing both sides because most will agree with the creationists if given all of the information.
No I think you do. You obviously don't listen or comprehend what I am saying. There is a lot of science behind creationism and it's based on the same evidence as the faulty evolutionist theory. It's been around longer than evolution too. It's too bad that the public schools won't allow both sides to be presented because they are afraid of the diversity of thought of hearing both sides because most will agree with the creationists if given all of the information.
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RELIGIOUS TEENS SMARTER, SAYS STANFORD STUDY
Religious teens smarter, says Stanford study
Religious teens smarter, says Stanford study
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xfrodobagginsx;1518911 wrote: RELIGIOUS TEENS SMARTER, SAYS STANFORD STUDY
Religious teens smarter, says Stanford study
If that site told you that earthworms were gummies, you'd chow them down by the handfull.
Religious teens smarter, says Stanford study
If that site told you that earthworms were gummies, you'd chow them down by the handfull.
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LarsMac;1518912 wrote: If that site told you that earthworms were gummies, you'd chow them down by the handfull.
And you only believe liberal sources...is Stanford University lying?
And you only believe liberal sources...is Stanford University lying?
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xfrodobagginsx;1519008 wrote: And you only believe liberal sources...is Stanford University lying?
You have no idea what "I believe"
Did you read the paper?
And Stanford University is not saying that. It was a paper published by a Stanford student.
It is actually a very interesting read, and I can see how the author drew the conclusions that she did. The paper and her conclusions are not what I take issue with.
But it did not say what your WND claims it said.
You have no idea what "I believe"
Did you read the paper?
And Stanford University is not saying that. It was a paper published by a Stanford student.
It is actually a very interesting read, and I can see how the author drew the conclusions that she did. The paper and her conclusions are not what I take issue with.
But it did not say what your WND claims it said.
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LarsMac;1519024 wrote: You have no idea what "I believe"
Did you read the paper?
And Stanford University is not saying that. It was a paper published by a Stanford student.
It is actually a very interesting read, and I can see how the author drew the conclusions that she did. The paper and her conclusions are not what I take issue with.
But it did not say what your WND claims it said.
Maybe she drew the conclusion that she did because the study has shown that those who are religious have a higher GPA than those who are not? Just a guess.
"Abiders, she found, earned significantly better grades on average than the avoiders. Abiders had an average GPA of 3.22, compared with 2.93 among avoiders."
I am not necessarily saying that I even agree with the article, but I do understand it. I am very religious, but I do admit that a lot of non Christians are very intelligent because they tend to have a higher regard for the world's education system, which is mostly liberal and in step with their way of thinking. That's my opinion.
Did you read the paper?
And Stanford University is not saying that. It was a paper published by a Stanford student.
It is actually a very interesting read, and I can see how the author drew the conclusions that she did. The paper and her conclusions are not what I take issue with.
But it did not say what your WND claims it said.
Maybe she drew the conclusion that she did because the study has shown that those who are religious have a higher GPA than those who are not? Just a guess.
"Abiders, she found, earned significantly better grades on average than the avoiders. Abiders had an average GPA of 3.22, compared with 2.93 among avoiders."
I am not necessarily saying that I even agree with the article, but I do understand it. I am very religious, but I do admit that a lot of non Christians are very intelligent because they tend to have a higher regard for the world's education system, which is mostly liberal and in step with their way of thinking. That's my opinion.
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xfrodobagginsx;1519068 wrote: Maybe she drew the conclusion that she did because the study has shown that those who are religious have a higher GPA than those who are not? Just a guess.
"Abiders, she found, earned significantly better grades on average than the avoiders. Abiders had an average GPA of 3.22, compared with 2.93 among avoiders."
I am not necessarily saying that I even agree with the article, but I do understand it. I am very religious, but I do admit that a lot of non Christians are very intelligent because they tend to have a higher regard for the world's education system, which is mostly liberal and in step with their way of thinking. That's my opinion.
And there you have the disconnect.
I am not even arguing what the study concluded. My issue is with your dumbass "news" site, and the claim they are making, which is an entirely different matter.
And you miss it completely.
"Abiders, she found, earned significantly better grades on average than the avoiders. Abiders had an average GPA of 3.22, compared with 2.93 among avoiders."
I am not necessarily saying that I even agree with the article, but I do understand it. I am very religious, but I do admit that a lot of non Christians are very intelligent because they tend to have a higher regard for the world's education system, which is mostly liberal and in step with their way of thinking. That's my opinion.
And there you have the disconnect.
I am not even arguing what the study concluded. My issue is with your dumbass "news" site, and the claim they are making, which is an entirely different matter.
And you miss it completely.
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LarsMac;1519069 wrote: And there you have the disconnect.
I am not even arguing what the study concluded. My issue is with your dumbass "news" site, and the claim they are making, which is an entirely different matter.
And you miss it completely.
Then you should have said that you didn't like the news site, but which facts did the news site get wrong, I am curious? Which claim are they making that you disagree with?
I am not even arguing what the study concluded. My issue is with your dumbass "news" site, and the claim they are making, which is an entirely different matter.
And you miss it completely.
Then you should have said that you didn't like the news site, but which facts did the news site get wrong, I am curious? Which claim are they making that you disagree with?
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xfrodobagginsx;1519081 wrote: Then you should have said that you didn't like the news site, but which facts did the news site get wrong, I am curious? Which claim are they making that you disagree with?
You reading comprehension is somewhat lacking. I have made it pretty clear that I have no use for that "news site"
You reading comprehension is somewhat lacking. I have made it pretty clear that I have no use for that "news site"
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LarsMac;1519083 wrote: You reading comprehension is somewhat lacking. I have made it pretty clear that I have no use for that "news site"
But that wasn't my question. I asked YOU which facts presented on that News Site were inaccurate? If you can't refute the facts presented, then you can't refute the factual argument that they are making, even if you don't like the outcome. You may disagree on what the facts mean, but you haven't done that here. That's my point.
But that wasn't my question. I asked YOU which facts presented on that News Site were inaccurate? If you can't refute the facts presented, then you can't refute the factual argument that they are making, even if you don't like the outcome. You may disagree on what the facts mean, but you haven't done that here. That's my point.
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xfrodobagginsx;1058898 wrote: ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?
There are some things that you should know:
1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:
Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.
2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:
Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."
Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.
3. If you will confess to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, accept Him as Lord and Savior and believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead you will be saved.
Joh 1:12 Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name
Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."
You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.
Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?
ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?
4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please humble yourself before God and pray this prayer to Him from your heart:
"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, save me, take me to be with You when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."
If you prayed that prayer to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.
Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
I would ask those who haven't yet to please read this first post and vote in the poll.
There are some things that you should know:
1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:
Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.
2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:
Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."
Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.
3. If you will confess to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, accept Him as Lord and Savior and believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead you will be saved.
Joh 1:12 Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name
Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."
You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.
Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?
ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?
4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please humble yourself before God and pray this prayer to Him from your heart:
"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, save me, take me to be with You when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."
If you prayed that prayer to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.
Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
I would ask those who haven't yet to please read this first post and vote in the poll.
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xfrodobagginsx;1519153 wrote: the economy continues to break records under trump's capitalistic policies. Unemployment rates falls to new record low 3.9%
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r 13:4
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LarsMac;1519154 wrote: r 13:4
Not sure what this is supposed to mean.
Not sure what this is supposed to mean.
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xfrodobagginsx;1519198 wrote: Not sure what this is supposed to mean.
It'll come to you.
It'll come to you.
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Still waiting...
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you are slower than I gave you credit for.
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LarsMac;1519336 wrote: you are slower than I gave you credit for.
That's not a very nice thing to say. Maybe it would be easier to just tell me what you meant.
That's not a very nice thing to say. Maybe it would be easier to just tell me what you meant.
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xfrodobagginsx;1519381 wrote: That's not a very nice thing to say. Maybe it would be easier to just tell me what you meant.
You're the Bible "expert"
You're the Bible "expert"
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Was that a Bible verse?
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xfrodobagginsx;1519395 wrote: Was that a Bible verse?
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Is this a game of guess what I meant?
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European 'Christians' no longer align with Christian faith
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xfrodobagginsx;1519414 wrote: European 'Christians' no longer align with Christian faith
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That's a problem in this country, as well.
may of the Christians here don't seem to align with Christian Faith.
You can watch a bunch of them on TV
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That's a problem in this country, as well.
may of the Christians here don't seem to align with Christian Faith.
You can watch a bunch of them on TV
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LarsMac;1519415 wrote: That's a problem in this country, as well.
may of the Christians here don't seem to align with Christian Faith.
You can watch a bunch of them on TV
In what ways don't they align with the Christian faith?
may of the Christians here don't seem to align with Christian Faith.
You can watch a bunch of them on TV
In what ways don't they align with the Christian faith?
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The reason that they don't align with the Christian faith is because of Liberal Theology
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xfrodobagginsx;1519455 wrote: The reason that they don't align with the Christian faith is because of Liberal Theology
You're suggesting that the likes of Jim Bakker, Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson and Joel Osteen are liberals?
Jesse DuPlantis?
You're suggesting that the likes of Jim Bakker, Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson and Joel Osteen are liberals?
Jesse DuPlantis?
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LarsMac;1519456 wrote: You're suggesting that the likes of Jim Bakker, Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson and Joel Osteen are liberals?
Jesse DuPlantis?
Some of them, yes and the ones that aren't, while some many Europeans respect them, most don't believe as they do, according to this article.
Jim Bakker, not sure of his theology, but he is not someone I would get advice from given his past. Franklin Graham believes just like I do which is why I don't believe that many Europeans would agree with him doctrinally, perhaps they respect him. Pat Robertson politically would be on par with my beliefs, but doctrinally, he has some issues. Joel Osteen is Liberal. He teaches a feel good, watered down theology. Never heard of Jesse DuPlantis.
Jesse DuPlantis?
Some of them, yes and the ones that aren't, while some many Europeans respect them, most don't believe as they do, according to this article.
Jim Bakker, not sure of his theology, but he is not someone I would get advice from given his past. Franklin Graham believes just like I do which is why I don't believe that many Europeans would agree with him doctrinally, perhaps they respect him. Pat Robertson politically would be on par with my beliefs, but doctrinally, he has some issues. Joel Osteen is Liberal. He teaches a feel good, watered down theology. Never heard of Jesse DuPlantis.
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You don't know many europeans do you? I rather suspect you wouldn't know a liberal if you met one either. Just be grateful you live in a liberal society where you have the freedom to worship as you wish.
European 'Christians' no longer align with Christian faith
Wonder if anyone has told the pope yet. not being european maybe he hasn't noticed.
European 'Christians' no longer align with Christian faith
Wonder if anyone has told the pope yet. not being european maybe he hasn't noticed.
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gmc;1519476 wrote: You don't know many europeans do you? I rather suspect you wouldn't know a liberal if you met one either. Just be grateful you live in a liberal society where you have the freedom to worship as you wish.
Wonder if anyone has told the pope yet. not being european maybe he hasn't noticed.
Liberalism doesn't give freedom, it takes it. The Liberals of today are Socialist and Progressives. That takes freedom. Freedom of speech, religion, right to bear arms are all targets of the modern left in America. The Pope is very Liberal and he is not a good Pope.
Wonder if anyone has told the pope yet. not being european maybe he hasn't noticed.
Liberalism doesn't give freedom, it takes it. The Liberals of today are Socialist and Progressives. That takes freedom. Freedom of speech, religion, right to bear arms are all targets of the modern left in America. The Pope is very Liberal and he is not a good Pope.
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Liberalism doesn't give freedom, it takes it. The Liberals of today are Socialist and Progressives. That takes freedom. Freedom of speech, religion, right to bear arms are all targets of the modern left in America. The Pope is very Liberal and he is not a good Pope.
Liberalism and socialism are not the same thing goodness knows what a progressive is must be an american term. Why would anyone not want to be progressive? What's the opposite of progressive, backward, unabl to move forward?
The word liberal is the same language root as liberty. That you clearly have no idea what liberalism is all about suggests a major failing in your education. Freedom of speech is a fundamental liberal as is the right to question those in authority especially those who claim moral authority over you.
The right to bear arms is a peculiarly american problem but if you want to be free take the guns away from the police so the police force can't be used as an instrument of oppression and keep the army small unless it is wartime for the same reason. Nothing to do with left or right anyone who thibks they need an assault rifle for self defence in a peaceful society has just demonstrated the kind of mental illness that would suggest they shouldn't have one.
The pope believes in an imaginary being he's deluded as are all religious people. You should be able to make moral judgements yourself if you need a book to tell you right from wrong and can't think for yourself maybe you should try reading a few more.
Liberalism doesn't give freedom, it takes it. The Liberals of today are Socialist and Progressives. That takes freedom. Freedom of speech, religion, right to bear arms are all targets of the modern left in America. The Pope is very Liberal and he is not a good Pope.
Liberalism and socialism are not the same thing goodness knows what a progressive is must be an american term. Why would anyone not want to be progressive? What's the opposite of progressive, backward, unabl to move forward?
The word liberal is the same language root as liberty. That you clearly have no idea what liberalism is all about suggests a major failing in your education. Freedom of speech is a fundamental liberal as is the right to question those in authority especially those who claim moral authority over you.
The right to bear arms is a peculiarly american problem but if you want to be free take the guns away from the police so the police force can't be used as an instrument of oppression and keep the army small unless it is wartime for the same reason. Nothing to do with left or right anyone who thibks they need an assault rifle for self defence in a peaceful society has just demonstrated the kind of mental illness that would suggest they shouldn't have one.
The pope believes in an imaginary being he's deluded as are all religious people. You should be able to make moral judgements yourself if you need a book to tell you right from wrong and can't think for yourself maybe you should try reading a few more.
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gmc;1519479 wrote: posted by xfrodobagginsx
Liberalism and socialism are not the same thing goodness knows what a progressive is must be an american term. Why would anyone not want to be progressive? What's the opposite of progressive, backward, unabl to move forward?
Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama are Progressives. They are also very Socialistic and very Liberal. In America, these terms are parallel in this day and age.
The word liberal is the same language root as liberty. That you clearly have no idea what liberalism is all about suggests a major failing in your education. Freedom of speech is a fundamental liberal as is the right to question those in authority especially those who claim moral authority over you.
I know what the definition means, but in American Politics, it's not the same thing. It CLAIMS to be about freedom, but it's really bondage. The Liberals in America want to get rid of any speech that they don't agree with and label it "Hate Speech". Speaking out against homosexuality is one such area of speech that they wish to outlaw. Speaking out against abortion is another.
The right to bear arms is a peculiarly american problem but if you want to be free take the guns away from the police so the police force can't be used as an instrument of oppression and keep the army small unless it is wartime for the same reason. Nothing to do with left or right anyone who thibks they need an assault rifle for self defence in a peaceful society has just demonstrated the kind of mental illness that would suggest they shouldn't have one.
Having rights is never a problem. It's the lack of rights that is a problem. The right to bear arms isn't just about protection from the bugalers, it's about protection from the Government oppression, such as was experienced by Americans from the English, which is why it's a constitutional right.
The pope believes in an imaginary being he's deluded as are all religious people. You should be able to make moral judgements yourself if you need a book to tell you right from wrong and can't think for yourself maybe you should try reading a few more.
The Pope actually doesn't sound like someone who actually believes in God, who is very real. He sounds like a Liberal. It's not just a book, it's God's Word. You should research the history of the Bible. Christians do think for their selves, which is why we don't believe everything that we are taught in public schools. Too bad Liberals tend to believe everything that they are taught in school, such as the lie of evolution.
My response is in bold above
Liberalism and socialism are not the same thing goodness knows what a progressive is must be an american term. Why would anyone not want to be progressive? What's the opposite of progressive, backward, unabl to move forward?
Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama are Progressives. They are also very Socialistic and very Liberal. In America, these terms are parallel in this day and age.
The word liberal is the same language root as liberty. That you clearly have no idea what liberalism is all about suggests a major failing in your education. Freedom of speech is a fundamental liberal as is the right to question those in authority especially those who claim moral authority over you.
I know what the definition means, but in American Politics, it's not the same thing. It CLAIMS to be about freedom, but it's really bondage. The Liberals in America want to get rid of any speech that they don't agree with and label it "Hate Speech". Speaking out against homosexuality is one such area of speech that they wish to outlaw. Speaking out against abortion is another.
The right to bear arms is a peculiarly american problem but if you want to be free take the guns away from the police so the police force can't be used as an instrument of oppression and keep the army small unless it is wartime for the same reason. Nothing to do with left or right anyone who thibks they need an assault rifle for self defence in a peaceful society has just demonstrated the kind of mental illness that would suggest they shouldn't have one.
Having rights is never a problem. It's the lack of rights that is a problem. The right to bear arms isn't just about protection from the bugalers, it's about protection from the Government oppression, such as was experienced by Americans from the English, which is why it's a constitutional right.
The pope believes in an imaginary being he's deluded as are all religious people. You should be able to make moral judgements yourself if you need a book to tell you right from wrong and can't think for yourself maybe you should try reading a few more.
The Pope actually doesn't sound like someone who actually believes in God, who is very real. He sounds like a Liberal. It's not just a book, it's God's Word. You should research the history of the Bible. Christians do think for their selves, which is why we don't believe everything that we are taught in public schools. Too bad Liberals tend to believe everything that they are taught in school, such as the lie of evolution.
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Actually no they're not. They're being conflated by the right to curtail political discussion. See newspeak.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/newspeak
propagandistic language marked by euphemism, circumlocution, and the inversion of customary meanings
Origin and Etymology of newspeak
Newspeak, a language "designed to diminish the range of thought," in the novel 1984 (1949) by George Orwell
You are a classic example of it's success.
It CLAIMS to be about freedom, but it's really bondage. The Liberals in America want to get rid of any speech that they don't agree with and label it "Hate Speech". Speaking out against homosexuality is one such area of speech that they wish to outlaw. Speaking out against abortion is another.
What aboutb theb right to be free fromm persecution by the followers of a stone age religion who believe free speech means they can impose their will on others. Freethinkers are being persecuted in america
it's about protection from the Government oppression, such as was experienced by Americans from the English, which is why it's a constitutional right.
It's also about freedom from being persecuted by your neighbours because you are non conformist. Be your own man don't follow a religion.
The Pope actually doesn't sound like someone who actually believes in God, who is very real. He sounds like a Liberal. It's not just a book, it's God's Word. You should research the history of the Bible. Christians do think for their selves, which is why we don't believe everything that we are taught in public schools. Too bad Liberals tend to believe everything that they are taught in school, such as the lie of evolution.
Don't need to already have and I#ve rerad it that why I am an atheist it's nonsense and clearly so. I see you're a creationist maybe you should study evolution a bit might help your thinking evolve. I've yet to meet a creationist who can provide any kind of proof for it.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/newspeak
propagandistic language marked by euphemism, circumlocution, and the inversion of customary meanings
Origin and Etymology of newspeak
Newspeak, a language "designed to diminish the range of thought," in the novel 1984 (1949) by George Orwell
You are a classic example of it's success.
It CLAIMS to be about freedom, but it's really bondage. The Liberals in America want to get rid of any speech that they don't agree with and label it "Hate Speech". Speaking out against homosexuality is one such area of speech that they wish to outlaw. Speaking out against abortion is another.
What aboutb theb right to be free fromm persecution by the followers of a stone age religion who believe free speech means they can impose their will on others. Freethinkers are being persecuted in america
it's about protection from the Government oppression, such as was experienced by Americans from the English, which is why it's a constitutional right.
It's also about freedom from being persecuted by your neighbours because you are non conformist. Be your own man don't follow a religion.
The Pope actually doesn't sound like someone who actually believes in God, who is very real. He sounds like a Liberal. It's not just a book, it's God's Word. You should research the history of the Bible. Christians do think for their selves, which is why we don't believe everything that we are taught in public schools. Too bad Liberals tend to believe everything that they are taught in school, such as the lie of evolution.
Don't need to already have and I#ve rerad it that why I am an atheist it's nonsense and clearly so. I see you're a creationist maybe you should study evolution a bit might help your thinking evolve. I've yet to meet a creationist who can provide any kind of proof for it.
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gmc;1519499 wrote: Actually no they're not. They're being conflated by the right to curtail political discussion. See newspeak.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/newspeak
You are a classic example of it's success.
What aboutb theb right to be free fromm persecution by the followers of a stone age religion who believe free speech means they can impose their will on others. Freethinkers are being persecuted in america
It's also about freedom from being persecuted by your neighbours because you are non conformist. Be your own man don't follow a religion.
Don't need to already have and I#ve rerad it that why I am an atheist it's nonsense and clearly so. I see you're a creationist maybe you should study evolution a bit might help your thinking evolve. I've yet to meet a creationist who can provide any kind of proof for it.
It's actually more a Bronze Age/Iron Age Religion.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/newspeak
You are a classic example of it's success.
What aboutb theb right to be free fromm persecution by the followers of a stone age religion who believe free speech means they can impose their will on others. Freethinkers are being persecuted in america
It's also about freedom from being persecuted by your neighbours because you are non conformist. Be your own man don't follow a religion.
Don't need to already have and I#ve rerad it that why I am an atheist it's nonsense and clearly so. I see you're a creationist maybe you should study evolution a bit might help your thinking evolve. I've yet to meet a creationist who can provide any kind of proof for it.
It's actually more a Bronze Age/Iron Age Religion.
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I can beat you in one move. Hillary Clinton IS a progressive:
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xfrodobagginsx;1519521 wrote: I can beat you in one move. Hillary Clinton IS a progressive:
Progressive - Noun - making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.:
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Progressive - Noun - making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.:
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