Jester;1082325 wrote: Wildhorses: I'd like to send you a PM, can you open your up?:)
OK....I think its open now.
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wildhorses;1082248 wrote: Ok. Go ahead and keep your head in the sand if you want. If you are too blind to see the reality of the world you are living in, then you are not part of the solution. We can fight the fight while you sit on the sidelines and whine. We know what to do and we are doing it.
Do you admit to no other possible view than your own?
Sitting in your bunker you see no possibility that someone viewing life on the outside can see anything obscured by the concrete walls that surround you?
That you descend to the emotive rather than present a rational rebuttal says volumes.
Do you admit to no other possible view than your own?
Sitting in your bunker you see no possibility that someone viewing life on the outside can see anything obscured by the concrete walls that surround you?
That you descend to the emotive rather than present a rational rebuttal says volumes.
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Jester;1082268 wrote: I am laying out an apology here, I thought through whether I should delete my post (two before this one), Ive decided to leave it up incase touchstone is aware enough to see it.
Oscar, Spot, anyone else who may have infered that I was angry at them for USA bashing, you each have my most sincere apology. Let me make it clear that I still think some of you do it regularly, but instead of being clear and constructive, I was angry and it was wrong of me.
I would ask you specifcally to forgive my anger and my rash statements, in the future I will try my utmost to be clear and constructive and in truer form to what most of you know me as.
To touchstone AKA womanizing bastard, yer the **** and God help you if I ever get within arms reach of you.
May God bless the rest of you. And I really am very, very sorry for how I acted.
Fuzzy I owe you a special apology, pm coming...
BTW Iraq was a briallaint campaign, its not over and God love George Bush!
He had a lot of us fooled for a fair while and has a lot to answer for - I think a lot of us feel the same at being manipulated by this lying sh!tsterrer.
You are, and will remain, my friend :-6
Oscar, Spot, anyone else who may have infered that I was angry at them for USA bashing, you each have my most sincere apology. Let me make it clear that I still think some of you do it regularly, but instead of being clear and constructive, I was angry and it was wrong of me.
I would ask you specifcally to forgive my anger and my rash statements, in the future I will try my utmost to be clear and constructive and in truer form to what most of you know me as.
To touchstone AKA womanizing bastard, yer the **** and God help you if I ever get within arms reach of you.
May God bless the rest of you. And I really am very, very sorry for how I acted.
Fuzzy I owe you a special apology, pm coming...
BTW Iraq was a briallaint campaign, its not over and God love George Bush!
He had a lot of us fooled for a fair while and has a lot to answer for - I think a lot of us feel the same at being manipulated by this lying sh!tsterrer.
You are, and will remain, my friend :-6
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What's all this about Touchstone?
Was something rotten in the state of Denmark then?
Was something rotten in the state of Denmark then?
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"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
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Galbally;1082397 wrote: What's all this about Touchstone?
Was something rotten in the state of Denmark then?
I told him we had the Irish as a secret weapon.
Jester said he thinks he's banned... What a shame :-5
Jester also called him a womanizer. I thought it was only me who noticed the perv over-tone's.
Did any-one else fall for his thread on what age woman should stop showing their breasts??
He made my skin crawl... Yuk
Was something rotten in the state of Denmark then?
I told him we had the Irish as a secret weapon.
Jester said he thinks he's banned... What a shame :-5
Jester also called him a womanizer. I thought it was only me who noticed the perv over-tone's.
Did any-one else fall for his thread on what age woman should stop showing their breasts??
He made my skin crawl... Yuk
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jimbo;1082791 wrote: ok who was the guy ,trying to stir up trouble between the yanks and the euro's
and perving over the fg ladiesmy guess is stevie wonder :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Are you looking for a slap young man??? :yh_rotfl
and perving over the fg ladies
my guess is stevie wonder :yh_rotfl:yh_rotflAre you looking for a slap young man??? :yh_rotfl
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fuzzy butt;1082867 wrote: Not mine, I was going to prove him wrong:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
I'd like to have seen that :yh_rotfl
I just looked at Touchstone's aviatar and it indeed has banned under his name.
Who put that there?
And me and Fuzz were just warming up for the big kill... Damn :-5:-5
I'd like to have seen that :yh_rotfl
I just looked at Touchstone's aviatar and it indeed has banned under his name.
Who put that there?
And me and Fuzz were just warming up for the big kill... Damn :-5:-5
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Bryn Mawr;1082353 wrote: Do you admit to no other possible view than your own?
Sitting in your bunker you see no possibility that someone viewing life on the outside can see anything obscured by the concrete walls that surround you?
That you descend to the emotive rather than present a rational rebuttal says volumes.
Keep hiding if it makes you sleep better at night. There is a threat to western civilization whether you want to admit it or not. Thats ok...go and hide. Others will fight for you.
Sitting in your bunker you see no possibility that someone viewing life on the outside can see anything obscured by the concrete walls that surround you?
That you descend to the emotive rather than present a rational rebuttal says volumes.
Keep hiding if it makes you sleep better at night. There is a threat to western civilization whether you want to admit it or not. Thats ok...go and hide. Others will fight for you.
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wildhorses;1083175 wrote: Keep hiding if it makes you sleep better at night. There is a threat to western civilization whether you want to admit it or not. Thats ok...go and hide. Others will fight for you.
You use such apocalyptic terms. There's no chance that any armed force is going to cross the border into the US Homeland, nor into the UK if it comes to that. Any incursion you speak of is a minimal number of terrorists as it was in 2001, for example. That's not "a threat to western civilization", that's a criminal conspiracy suited to police investigation and prosecution. Fighting it abroad with massive firepower merely increases the number of volunteers for the groups defending their own territory from your armed forces, and only jingoist patriotism would describe such behaviour as terrorism.
You use such apocalyptic terms. There's no chance that any armed force is going to cross the border into the US Homeland, nor into the UK if it comes to that. Any incursion you speak of is a minimal number of terrorists as it was in 2001, for example. That's not "a threat to western civilization", that's a criminal conspiracy suited to police investigation and prosecution. Fighting it abroad with massive firepower merely increases the number of volunteers for the groups defending their own territory from your armed forces, and only jingoist patriotism would describe such behaviour as terrorism.
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spot;1083217 wrote: You use such apocalyptic terms. There's no chance that any armed force is going to cross the border into the US Homeland, nor into the UK if it comes to that. Any incursion you speak of is a minimal number of terrorists as it was in 2001, for example. That's not "a threat to western civilization", that's a criminal conspiracy suited to police investigation and prosecution. Fighting it abroad with massive firepower merely increases the number of volunteers for the groups defending their own territory from your armed forces, and only jingoist patriotism would describe such behaviour as terrorism.
I dont agree. For one thing it is not necessary for an actual armed force to cross the border into either one of our countries. They only have to infiltrate our societies, which they have done. They can then disrupt life and safety in much the same way that a war would. Of course they are not going to put on uniforms and try to march across the border. That is not their style or strategy. But make no mistake about it, they have done some infiltration. That is why there are attacks now and again. It can get worse. If you dont think it can then I think you are wrong....very wrong. And it is a threat to western cilvilazation.
I dont agree. For one thing it is not necessary for an actual armed force to cross the border into either one of our countries. They only have to infiltrate our societies, which they have done. They can then disrupt life and safety in much the same way that a war would. Of course they are not going to put on uniforms and try to march across the border. That is not their style or strategy. But make no mistake about it, they have done some infiltration. That is why there are attacks now and again. It can get worse. If you dont think it can then I think you are wrong....very wrong. And it is a threat to western cilvilazation.
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wildhorses;1083233 wrote: I dont agree. For one thing it is not necessary for an actual armed force to cross the border into either one of our countries. They only have to infiltrate our societies, which they have done. They can then disrupt life and safety in much the same way that a war would. Of course they are not going to put on uniforms and try to march across the border. That is not their style or strategy. But make no mistake about it, they have done some infiltration. That is why there are attacks now and again. It can get worse. If you dont think it can then I think you are wrong....very wrong. And it is a threat to western cilvilazation.
That's perfectly legitimate evangelism, it's what the West did by sending missionaries to every corner of the earth handing out bibles and prayer. It's an entirely legitimate activity, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you fear religious conversion then you should make Christianity more attractive. And democracy too, if you fear that's under threat at the ballot box.
That's perfectly legitimate evangelism, it's what the West did by sending missionaries to every corner of the earth handing out bibles and prayer. It's an entirely legitimate activity, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you fear religious conversion then you should make Christianity more attractive. And democracy too, if you fear that's under threat at the ballot box.
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spot;1083236 wrote: That's perfectly legitimate evangelism, it's what the West did by sending missionaries to every corner of the earth handing out bibles and prayer. It's an entirely legitimate activity, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you fear religious conversion then you should make Christianity more attractive. And democracy too, if you fear that's under threat at the ballot box.
LOL I dont fear religious conversion. Our enemy is not really religious. They use religion to further their agenda.
Now that I look at your post it really does not address my last post at all. So I guess you have not reply to my last post. So we are done.
LOL I dont fear religious conversion. Our enemy is not really religious. They use religion to further their agenda.
Now that I look at your post it really does not address my last post at all. So I guess you have not reply to my last post. So we are done.
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JAB;1083240 wrote: Must be how the rumor started that Islam promises it's male followers with 7 virgins when they get to heaven. Nice recruiting tool I suppose.
The eagerness with which Christianity has converted people is a perfectly good justification for any other to behave the same way. There are four major monotheisms, Christianity, Judaism, the Mormons and Islam. Of those, Judaism doesn't attempt evangelize and convert. There's no hard sell. The other three do - I was stopped on Park Street only a couple of months back by an American Mormon Missionary and had ten minutes chat with him. If they can do it then by God so can the Muslims as far as I'm concerned.
The eagerness with which Christianity has converted people is a perfectly good justification for any other to behave the same way. There are four major monotheisms, Christianity, Judaism, the Mormons and Islam. Of those, Judaism doesn't attempt evangelize and convert. There's no hard sell. The other three do - I was stopped on Park Street only a couple of months back by an American Mormon Missionary and had ten minutes chat with him. If they can do it then by God so can the Muslims as far as I'm concerned.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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wildhorses;1083241 wrote: LOL I dont fear religious conversion. Our enemy is not really religious. They use religion to further their agenda.
Now that I look at your post it really does not address my last post at all. So I guess you have not reply to my last post. So we are done.
You were referring to people acting the way the 9/11 hijackers did? I already answered that in full! "Any incursion you speak of is a minimal number of terrorists as it was in 2001, for example. That's not "a threat to western civilization", that's a criminal conspiracy suited to police investigation and prosecution". It's not capable, however extreme, of being "a threat to western civilization", it's a criminal act.
Now that I look at your post it really does not address my last post at all. So I guess you have not reply to my last post. So we are done.
You were referring to people acting the way the 9/11 hijackers did? I already answered that in full! "Any incursion you speak of is a minimal number of terrorists as it was in 2001, for example. That's not "a threat to western civilization", that's a criminal conspiracy suited to police investigation and prosecution". It's not capable, however extreme, of being "a threat to western civilization", it's a criminal act.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Jester;1083246 wrote: Except the western government did not send them, remember we have a seperate church and state. And thats a laugh, there are no more vastly successful chirstian missionary societies. The last of which ended in the early 1900's.No Islamic government sends out missionaries either.
The Amazon tribes being frenetically contacted still by Christian missionaries would tell a different story about whether it still happens. Brazil even made it illegal. I wasn't referring to "successful", I was referring to its continued existence on a large scale - and it does. Even if it didn't, there's no reason at all for Muslims not to offer evangelism to non-Muslims, I'm all for it.
The Amazon tribes being frenetically contacted still by Christian missionaries would tell a different story about whether it still happens. Brazil even made it illegal. I wasn't referring to "successful", I was referring to its continued existence on a large scale - and it does. Even if it didn't, there's no reason at all for Muslims not to offer evangelism to non-Muslims, I'm all for it.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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Jester;1083243 wrote: I think people like Wild here and people like myself are here to tell you that your way will kill innocent americans and innocent westerners in droves. It's very simple - I don't believe you and you have no evidence that you're right. Meanwhile there's over a million Iraqis dead who'd be alive still without your invasion, and that's a real and dreadful criticism of your bring'em on war criminal White House. Nobody is ever going to deal with that and it's shameful that nobody will.
You still have this disgusting notion that a dead Iraqi is worth less than a dead American.
You still have this disgusting notion that a dead Iraqi is worth less than a dead American.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Jester;1083260 wrote: Of course muslums dont send out missionaries they send out terrorists!
What are you Americans? The twenty first century's master race? Or do you share the planet with a large number of other humans, many of whom just happen for historical reasons, with no deliberate choice on their part, to worship Allah?
What are you Americans? The twenty first century's master race? Or do you share the planet with a large number of other humans, many of whom just happen for historical reasons, with no deliberate choice on their part, to worship Allah?
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Jester;1083268 wrote: Anyone can worhip anyone or anythign they want I could care less, just dont kill me for not sharing your ideas. How does that square with the US economic blockade of Cuba since before you were born?
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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Jester;1083272 wrote: Then sent the US military to liberate Cuba.Even though most Cubans don't want to be liberated and never did, just as most Iraqis didn't?
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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Jester;1083279 wrote: Then why do half of them live in Florida? Spot they immmigrate by the boat load, well even by the inner tube load!Race by Cuban national Origin, 2000: 1,241,685
Population of Cuba, July 2006 (estimated): 11,382,820.
Half of them don't live in Florida.
Population of Cuba, July 2006 (estimated): 11,382,820.
Half of them don't live in Florida.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Jester;1083279 wrote: Spot, every Iraqi I met there, that I wasnt chasing, or trading rifle rounds with, wanted me there. My experience there was one of great welcome and relief, and it showed in a great many ways, when we finally killed all the terrorist or routed them from a neighborhood the common iraqi started getting thier lives back together.
You can hand me 2000 AP articles and study after study, but those are BS. I saw consistantly the relief on the common iraqis face when they started to feel secure again, and it wasnt that way while they were being terrorised by the insurgency and the criminal thugs of the terror orgs.
There's only one test and that's, as in South Vietnam, what happens once you leave. We'll just wait and see. My money says that within five years Iraq will be the most anti-American government on the planet and screaming for retribution.
You can hand me 2000 AP articles and study after study, but those are BS. I saw consistantly the relief on the common iraqis face when they started to feel secure again, and it wasnt that way while they were being terrorised by the insurgency and the criminal thugs of the terror orgs.
There's only one test and that's, as in South Vietnam, what happens once you leave. We'll just wait and see. My money says that within five years Iraq will be the most anti-American government on the planet and screaming for retribution.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
We Won ... The Iraq War Is Over.
Jester;1083284 wrote: I'm sorry, 10% live in florida, half of those left want to live in florida... the other half want to get rid of castro(s) and get some bright shiny paint for their deliapidated buildings. Russian Gray gets a little boring.
Like I said Spot, I would welcome cubans to the democratic fold, now if cubans were out to send terrorists to the US then Id go gunning for them too.
I dont see whats inconsistant about my policy.
It's totally consistent and totally at odds with the real world. It has everything except facts.
Like I said Spot, I would welcome cubans to the democratic fold, now if cubans were out to send terrorists to the US then Id go gunning for them too.
I dont see whats inconsistant about my policy.
It's totally consistent and totally at odds with the real world. It has everything except facts.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
We Won ... The Iraq War Is Over.
Jester;1083290 wrote: The question is if we leave to soon, like vietnam you will be right and the shiite and the sunnis will divide the place and kill hundreds of thousand in the process. and there will be a migration to secure the place in sections and it will be divided and fall much like vietnam did.
I agree, so we better stay and see the course through, when we left vietnam prematurely 3 million people were exterminated.
So do you still want an immeidate witrhdrawel exit like the stupid americans are blindly following Obamaa into?
Genocide in Iraq, they will blame bush for going in in the fiorst place and never blame Obama for pulling them out before the job is done.
This is why american policies fail, no one sees them through, the americans buy whatever they are told by the media. And the media lies through thier teeth.
Staying the course is the right thing to do.
Bush said
"when we left vietnam prematurely 3 million people were exterminated."? If you can show that to be true I'll be very impressed, I don't believe it in the slightest. Even if you count the number killed by US bombing across Indo-China between the pull-out and the fall of Saigon you can't reach that number. If you do have a try at finding sources for the number dead by year, try to get ones which distinguish on the basis of which side killed them, that extra detail will be invaluable.
I want every US citizen out of Iraq by the weekend. You got them in there that quickly, you can get them out that quickly too.
I agree, so we better stay and see the course through, when we left vietnam prematurely 3 million people were exterminated.
So do you still want an immeidate witrhdrawel exit like the stupid americans are blindly following Obamaa into?
Genocide in Iraq, they will blame bush for going in in the fiorst place and never blame Obama for pulling them out before the job is done.
This is why american policies fail, no one sees them through, the americans buy whatever they are told by the media. And the media lies through thier teeth.
Staying the course is the right thing to do.
Bush said
"when we left vietnam prematurely 3 million people were exterminated."? If you can show that to be true I'll be very impressed, I don't believe it in the slightest. Even if you count the number killed by US bombing across Indo-China between the pull-out and the fall of Saigon you can't reach that number. If you do have a try at finding sources for the number dead by year, try to get ones which distinguish on the basis of which side killed them, that extra detail will be invaluable.
I want every US citizen out of Iraq by the weekend. You got them in there that quickly, you can get them out that quickly too.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Okay... I seriously don't even know why went to war in the first place... what was the point of going again?
Smoke signals ftw!
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Omni_Skittles;1083298 wrote: Okay... I seriously don't even know why went to war in the first place... what was the point of going again?or... i could just look it up myself... haha
Smoke signals ftw!
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Omni_Skittles;1083300 wrote: or... i could just look it up myself... haha
There was a song about it once.
Come on wall street don't be slow
why man this war is a go-go
there's plenty good money to be made by
supplying the army with the tools of the trade
There was a song about it once.
Come on wall street don't be slow
why man this war is a go-go
there's plenty good money to be made by
supplying the army with the tools of the trade
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spot;1083266 wrote: What are you Americans? The twenty first century's master race? Or do you share the planet with a large number of other humans, many of whom just happen for historical reasons, with no deliberate choice on their part, to worship Allah?
They do not simply worship allah. They threaten the whole of western civilization. They threaten to kill non muslims. So that is reason enough to kill them. You are trying to make them sound like something they are not.
They do not simply worship allah. They threaten the whole of western civilization. They threaten to kill non muslims. So that is reason enough to kill them. You are trying to make them sound like something they are not.
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wildhorses;1083304 wrote: They do not simply worship allah. They threaten the whole of western civilization. They threaten to kill non muslims. So that is reason enough to kill them. You are trying to make them sound like something they are not.
You accept that these people are Muslims because they were born that way? They didn't choose it? They just happen to be born in countries where that's the norm and has been for hundreds of years? That if you'd been born there you'd be Muslim too?
You accept that these people are Muslims because they were born that way? They didn't choose it? They just happen to be born in countries where that's the norm and has been for hundreds of years? That if you'd been born there you'd be Muslim too?
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
We Won ... The Iraq War Is Over.
Jester;1083306 wrote: I feel like the iraqis we leave behind to fend for themselves will hate us automatically now, so you may be right Spot.You make it sound as though it's unusual. Tell me which countries the US attacked with its armed forces since you were born which didn't end up anti-American after your attack came to an end.. I have trouble remembering any.
Would it help if I gave you a list of the ones which might qualify?
Would it help if I gave you a list of the ones which might qualify?
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Jester;1083318 wrote: Spot, you seemd to think I care who is anti american and who isnt, I dont so long as they arent trying to kill americans they can hate me as much as they want. And its largely perception and not ewntirely our fault and its largely blown out of porportion by the media.
I dont recall any coutnries the US hads 'invaded' since I saw born.
Lordy. I suppose it all depends on whether bombing and killing people in another country qualifies as an invasion, doesn't it.
Panama, The Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Detroit, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, Angola, Iran, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Grenada, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Haiti, Sudan, Afghanistan, they'll do for starters, some of them several times on different occasions.
I dont recall any coutnries the US hads 'invaded' since I saw born.
Lordy. I suppose it all depends on whether bombing and killing people in another country qualifies as an invasion, doesn't it.
Panama, The Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Detroit, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, Angola, Iran, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Grenada, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Haiti, Sudan, Afghanistan, they'll do for starters, some of them several times on different occasions.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1083313 wrote: You accept that these people are Muslims because they were born that way? They didn't choose it? They just happen to be born in countries where that's the norm and has been for hundreds of years? That if you'd been born there you'd be Muslim too?
They were born muslim...so what? I was born catholic, but I dont practice it....I am an agnostic. Everyone has a choice to choose. The fact that they are muslim is not really the point. There is a muslim move against western civilization. There are those that are using the muslim faith as an army. This is not just in one or two countries. We are not talking about countries. We are talking about an enemy entity that spans over many countries. That is why the war in Iraq is justified. The 911 terrorists were Saudis...not the point. The point is they are part of a movement. Part of that movement exists in Iraq. That is the point.
They were born muslim...so what? I was born catholic, but I dont practice it....I am an agnostic. Everyone has a choice to choose. The fact that they are muslim is not really the point. There is a muslim move against western civilization. There are those that are using the muslim faith as an army. This is not just in one or two countries. We are not talking about countries. We are talking about an enemy entity that spans over many countries. That is why the war in Iraq is justified. The 911 terrorists were Saudis...not the point. The point is they are part of a movement. Part of that movement exists in Iraq. That is the point.
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spot;1083322 wrote: Lordy. I suppose it all depends on whether bombing and killing people in another country qualifies as an invasion, doesn't it.
Panama, The Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Detroit, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, Angola, Iran, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Grenada, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Haiti, Sudan, Afghanistan, they'll do for starters, some of them several times on different occasions.
El Salvador and Nicaraugua were invaded by leftist guerrierllos from inside their own countries. They were trying to take over the governments there. They were not invaded by the US government. The US government was there to block the action by leftist guerrierllos. Guatemala was close to the same, but slightly different. There was actually a widespread movement in Central America back in the 80's. But the USA did not just go to invade them. And ...um....I have many friends from those countries, especially El Salvador. They dont hate the USA. You are wrong about those countries.
Panama, The Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Detroit, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, Angola, Iran, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Grenada, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Haiti, Sudan, Afghanistan, they'll do for starters, some of them several times on different occasions.
El Salvador and Nicaraugua were invaded by leftist guerrierllos from inside their own countries. They were trying to take over the governments there. They were not invaded by the US government. The US government was there to block the action by leftist guerrierllos. Guatemala was close to the same, but slightly different. There was actually a widespread movement in Central America back in the 80's. But the USA did not just go to invade them. And ...um....I have many friends from those countries, especially El Salvador. They dont hate the USA. You are wrong about those countries.
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wildhorses;1083233 wrote: I dont agree. For one thing it is not necessary for an actual armed force to cross the border into either one of our countries. They only have to infiltrate our societies, which they have done. They can then disrupt life and safety in much the same way that a war would. Of course they are not going to put on uniforms and try to march across the border. That is not their style or strategy. But make no mistake about it, they have done some infiltration. That is why there are attacks now and again. It can get worse. If you dont think it can then I think you are wrong....very wrong. And it is a threat to western cilvilazation.
At last! Two words together that are not just trying to mock your way through the discussion.
Could you now suggest how sending tanks and strike aircraft to invade a country that was in no way involved in the terrorism is going to stop that infiltration?
At last! Two words together that are not just trying to mock your way through the discussion.
Could you now suggest how sending tanks and strike aircraft to invade a country that was in no way involved in the terrorism is going to stop that infiltration?
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Bryn Mawr;1083336 wrote: At last! Two words together that are not just trying to mock your way through the discussion.
Could you now suggest how sending tanks and strike aircraft to invade a country that was in no way involved in the terrorism is going to stop that infiltration?
See post #296. I have already commented on this very item.
Could you now suggest how sending tanks and strike aircraft to invade a country that was in no way involved in the terrorism is going to stop that infiltration?
See post #296. I have already commented on this very item.