How To Get To Heaven When You Die

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:38 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1529373 wrote: I don't see how anyone could have predicted the time, name of the city, betrayed for 30 pieces of silver, rejected of His own, ect. How could that have been purposely fulfilled? You can't choose these things to happen.

IT is easy, after the fact, to look back and see how something that happened was predicted.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:51 pm

LarsMac;1529374 wrote: IT is easy, after the fact, to look back and see how something that happened was predicted.

I don't see how anyone could have predicted those things. It would have had to have been a mass conspiracy to make it all happen AND Jesus friends AND enemies would have had to collude together to make it happen, along with the Federal Government of Rome and Israel. The son would also have to be in on it. Jesus would have to be in on it too and die for it. The disciples would have to be in on it and die for what they knew to be a lie too.

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:19 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1529397 wrote: I don't see how anyone could have predicted those things. It would have had to have been a mass conspiracy to make it all happen AND Jesus friends AND enemies would have had to collude together to make it happen, along with the Federal Government of Rome and Israel. The son would also have to be in on it. Jesus would have to be in on it too and die for it. The disciples would have to be in on it and die for what they knew to be a lie too.

You're making my point, Bob.

Is it really that simple, you think? So all that stuff was written a long time ago. Just read the texts.

And then something happens, and someone says "Hey, if you read this text while thinking of this event, you can see a connection. It must be prophecy."

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:07 pm

LarsMac;1529398 wrote: You're making my point, Bob.

Is it really that simple, you think? So all that stuff was written a long time ago. Just read the texts.

And then something happens, and someone says "Hey, if you read this text while thinking of this event, you can see a connection. It must be prophecy."

It doesn't matter how long ago the prophecies were written because they are all referring to the same person.

So, you believe that there was a mass conspiracy to make these things all happen with the Roman Government, The Jewish Leaders, Jesus, The Disciples and everyone else around at that time? You realize how outlandish that is right?

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:05 pm

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xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:01 pm

LarsMac;1529398 wrote: You're making my point, Bob.

Is it really that simple, you think? So all that stuff was written a long time ago. Just read the texts.

And then something happens, and someone says "Hey, if you read this text while thinking of this event, you can see a connection. It must be prophecy."

But it's not that simple. It's over 100-200 minute details of 1 person, it's not just some random predictions. I am struggling to understand why you aren't seeing that. If a person born 1500 years before you could tell the year of your birth, city of your birth, and 150 more major details of your life, with 100% accuracy, would you think that was just a coincidence and easy to see looking back? It's impossible.

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xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:16 pm

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xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:40 pm

Kanye West headlining stadium event aimed at igniting national spiritual awakening

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xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:50 pm

Man Says He Went Literally To Hell And Is Back To Tell The Horrors Of What He Saw:

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xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:30 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1529651 wrote: Man Says He Went Literally To Hell And Is Back To Tell The Horrors Of What He Saw:

23 Minutes In Hell By Bill Wiese:

Please take the time to watch this man's testimony.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:59 pm

LarsMac;1529398 wrote: You're making my point, Bob.

Is it really that simple, you think? So all that stuff was written a long time ago. Just read the texts.

And then something happens, and someone says "Hey, if you read this text while thinking of this event, you can see a connection. It must be prophecy."

But it's not that simple. It's over 100-200 minute details of 1 person, it's not just some random predictions. I am struggling to understand why you aren't seeing that. If a person born 1500 years before you could tell the year of your birth, city of your birth, and 150 more major details of your life, with 100% accuracy, would you think that was just a coincidence and easy to see looking back? It's impossible.

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:33 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1529695 wrote: But it's not that simple. It's over 100-200 minute details of 1 person, it's not just some random predictions. I am struggling to understand why you aren't seeing that. If a person born 1500 years before you could tell the year of your birth, city of your birth, and 150 more major details of your life, with 100% accuracy, would you think that was just a coincidence and easy to see looking back? It's impossible.

You have it backwards, Bob.

Someone 1500 years ago wrote a poem.

Now someone reads the word 'Bob' in that poem and decides the poem was about you.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:44 am

xfrodobagginsx;1529695 wrote: I am struggling to understand why you aren't seeing that.That appears to be an obsession. Have you ever thought of asking yourself why you obsess? What benefit do you receive by having to ensure to yourself that LM (or anyone) sees what you think you see?

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:18 pm

LarsMac;1529703 wrote: You have it backwards, Bob.

Someone 1500 years ago wrote a poem.

Now someone reads the word 'Bob' in that poem and decides the poem was about you.

It's not a poem. There are 1-200 places in the OT that describe Christ's life in detail. It's not some poem written by Nostradamus that gets a name right with one letter off. It's not even a poem, except maybe some of the Pslams/Proverbs that describe Him.

The entire Chapter of Psalm 22 describes Christ's crucifixion, which is a form of torture that didn't even exist at the time it was written. The entire Chapter of Isaiah 53 describes Christ in detail, it's not a poem. Plus, over 150-200 other areas? If you look at just the two snippets below, they are hardly some obscure poem:

Ps 22:6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

11 ¶ Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Isa 53:1 ¶ Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 ¶ Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 ¶ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:53 pm

Ahso!;1529706 wrote: That appears to be an obsession. Have you ever thought of asking yourself why you obsess? What benefit do you receive by having to ensure to yourself that LM (or anyone) sees what you think you see?

So, when I respond it's an obsession. Is it also an obsession with others respond or just when I do?

Although I do hope to convince Lars, I don't merely respond for Lars, there are 1-3000 visitors to this thread in any given day. It's also good to explore different points of view.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:54 am

xfrodobagginsx;1529732 wrote: So, when I respond it's an obsession. Is it also an obsession with others respond or just when I do?

Although I do hope to convince Lars, I don't merely respond for Lars, there are 1-3000 visitors to this thread in any given day. It's also good to explore different points of view.That response does not follow the post you quoted. Now try responding without appearing defensive. Can you do that? Reread my post and respond accordingly.

If you'd like to say you're not obsessing, that would be a response that follows the quoted post. However, if you do decide to make that claim then you leave yourself in a position of obligation to explain why you struggle with this odd need to understand why LM (or anyone) doesn't see what you want seen.

Are you up to the challenge of explaining yourself? I'm betting you aren't. Can you prove me wrong?

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:07 pm

Ahso!;1529735 wrote: That response does not follow the post you quoted. Now try responding without appearing defensive. Can you do that? Reread my post and respond accordingly.

If you'd like to say you're not obsessing, that would be a response that follows the quoted post. However, if you do decide to make that claim then you leave yourself in a position of obligation to explain why you struggle with this odd need to understand why LM (or anyone) doesn't see what you want seen.

Are you up to the challenge of explaining yourself? I'm betting you aren't. Can you prove me wrong?

It 100% follows the post quoted. You wrote:

"That appears to be an obsession."

My response was"

"So, when I respond it's an obsession?"

You wrote:

"Have you ever thought of asking yourself why you obsess?"

My response was:

" Is it also an obsession with others respond or just when I do?"

You Wrote:

"What benefit do you receive by having to ensure to yourself that LM (or anyone) sees what you think you see?"

My response was:

"Although I do hope to convince Lars, I don't merely respond for Lars, there are 1-3000 visitors to this thread in any given day. It's also good to explore different points of view."

As you can see my responses were perfectly appropriate answers. If you don't want to see a response to your question, don't ask the question. I re-read your post and my response stays the same. Perfectly appropriate. What type of answer were you expecting?

I have explained it. Now can you explain why you didn't understand?

I am merely explaining my position to Lars and he is responding with his.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:37 am

xfrodobagginsx;1529771 wrote: It 100% follows the post quoted. You wrote:

"That appears to be an obsession."

My response was"

"So, when I respond it's an obsession?"

That's not correct, though it is what I predicted you'd say.

I never said that the evidence of your obsession was based on the responding itself, I said the evidence is contained in the words you used in your response.

You avoided focusing on the content of the posts (as you always do) and instead (perhaps unconsciously) created several, what is called strawman arguments in order to divert your own attention to give yourself permission to get back to your obsessing over convincing others to see life as you see it, and it took you a whole two days to finally give up on looking at and trying to explain yourself.

That, my friend, is a rather strong obsession.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:09 pm

Trump 1st president to speak at March for Life

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xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:19 pm

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Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:50 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1529859 wrote: Happy Sunday! Find a good Bible believing Church and attend!It's funny how odd this sounds in the 21st century. There is literally not one person I'm attached to that attends church anymore. Now if we could only rid ourselves of football.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:11 pm

That's really a sad thing to hear. The Lord will soon be returning to the earth. Let me ask you a question: What are your thoughts on the New World Order/Globalism?

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:35 pm

The Lord and His Word are never out of date.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:42 am

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xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:16 pm

Kobe Bryant's faith helped him through his toughest times

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xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:58 pm

Ahso!;1529860 wrote: It's funny how odd this sounds in the 21st century. There is literally not one person I'm attached to that attends church anymore. Now if we could only rid ourselves of football.

That's really a sad thing to hear. The Lord will soon be returning to the earth. Let me ask you a question: What are your thoughts on the New World Order/Globalism?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:17 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1529939 wrote: That's really a sad thing to hear. The Lord will soon be returning to the earth. Let me ask you a question: What are your thoughts on the New World Order/Globalism?You're welcome to try to explain what "the New World Order/Globalism" is. I'll warn you though that I won't be following you down any rabbit holes, so use caution if your question is sincere.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:07 pm

Ahso!;1529940 wrote: You're welcome to try to explain what "the New World Order/Globalism" is. I'll warn you though that I won't be following you down any rabbit holes, so use caution if your question is sincere.

Ok, but before I do, I asked you what your thoughts were. Do you support it or not?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:37 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1529950 wrote: Ok, but before I do, I asked you what your thoughts were. Do you support it or not?I have no idea what you mean by it.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:42 pm

I had an entire response for you but the site was under maintenance. I will respond tomorrow.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:04 pm

Ahso!;1529951 wrote: I have no idea what you mean by it.

It refers to a One World Government. All nations coming together in one. All Presidents since George H W Bush have been pushing it and against US best Interests, until Trump.

The First George Bush first used the term:

Clinton Talked About Globalism:

President Bill Clinton - Global Citizenship: Turning Good Intentions into Positive Action

George W. Bush also talked about it, calling it Global Citizenship

Obama Called It "Global Integration", Globalism:

Donald Trump Is The First President Against Globalism Since Ronald Regan:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... /86431376/

They want a One World Government and Trump is in the way. Do you want to know what the Bible says about it?

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:12 pm

The New World Order has been bandied about since before you were born, son.

And only idiots mix religion with politics.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:31 am

xfrodobagginsx;1529968 wrote: It refers to a One World Government. All nations coming together in one. All Presidents since George H W Bush have been pushing it and against US best Interests, until Trump.

The First George Bush first used the term:

Clinton Talked About Globalism:

President Bill Clinton - Global Citizenship: Turning Good Intentions into Positive Action

George W. Bush also talked about it, calling it Global Citizenship

Obama Called It "Global Integration", Globalism:

Donald Trump Is The First President Against Globalism Since Ronald Regan:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... /86431376/

They want a One World Government and Trump is in the way. Do you want to know what the Bible says about it?I warned you that I would not be following you down any rabbit holes. Try the Plato's Cave bit on someone else.

You'll need to be more precise. Instead of giving me video assignments, give it to me in your own words and use quotes and links to validate each of your points.

Instead of trying to make this a homework assignment make it a conversation where you articulate your case. Convince me! You're far from doing that so far.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:32 pm

LarsMac;1529970 wrote: The New World Order has been bandied about since before you were born, son.

And only idiots mix religion with politics.

Yes it has and I would highly disagree that only idiots mix religion and politics. They are intertwined. You can't separate them. Your religious beliefs, or lack of them, control your politics. For instance, If you believe the Bible you are going to be pro life, if you don't believe what the Bible actually says, you are probably going to be pro abortion.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:51 am

Ahso!;1529972 wrote: I warned you that I would not be following you down any rabbit holes. Try the Plato's Cave bit on someone else.

You'll need to be more precise. Instead of giving me video assignments, give it to me in your own words and use quotes and links to validate each of your points.

Instead of trying to make this a homework assignment make it a conversation where you articulate your case. Convince me! You're far from doing that so far.

It's not a rabbit hole. It's laying the foundation of proof to you that there is an effort by Presidents and Politicians to create a One World Government. I need to establish that with you before I can move on to my next point. I don't expect you necessarily to watch the videos per se, I just offer them as proof in the President's own words that they are in fact in this effort.

I can't convince you of something that you don't know exists. First we need to start there. Lars knows what I am talking about and believes that the effort has been going on much longer than I pointed out. I agree with Lars that this is most likely the case.

So, the first question I have for you before I can move on, is if you believe or at least can see from the video proof that there is this effort by these Presidents to establish a One World Government? It's not a rabbit hole. It's establishing a well known fact.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:51 pm

Explain in your own words what this One World Government is, how it came about, who founded it, who are the members, who is financing it, what is its mission and so on. Please!

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:59 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1529984 wrote: Yes it has and I would highly disagree that only idiots mix religion and politics. They are intertwined. You can't separate them. Your religious beliefs, or lack of them, control your politics. For instance, If you believe the Bible you are going to be pro life, if you don't believe what the Bible actually says, you are probably going to be pro abortion.

Perhaps, then there is a difference between believing in The Bible, and believing in Jesus.

All the people I know, including myself, who believe in Jesus will out of hand reject the politics that you seem to embrace.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:27 pm

Ahso!;1529995 wrote: Explain in your own words what this One World Government is, how it came about, who founded it, who are the members, who is financing it, what is its mission and so on. Please!

The one world Government is a Global Communistic/Socialistic Government. It hasn't come about yet, the World Leaders are working toward it. Satan is the founder and when it comes about, a man possessed by satan will be the Leader of it. All of the Governments of the World are financing it. The United Nations and/or the European Union is the vehicle for it to come about. It's probably going to be through the European Union. Its mission is a One World Government to control all people in the World. All nations will lose their Sovereignty and be subjected to it's power. Those who do conform to it will be required to take a mark, the 666 mentioned in the Bible. If they don't take the mark they will not be able to buy or sell. They will also be round up and killed by being beheaded. The first 3 1/2 years will be prosperous, but the 2nd 3 1/2 years will be a time of hell on earth. Most of the people on the earth will die during that time. In the mid point of this time, the leader of the New World Order will sit on the throne in Jerusalem meant for God and will declare himself to be the Messiah/God. The Bible calls it the abomination desolation. The Jews will immediately realize that he is not the true messiah. He will set out to destroy all of the Jews but God will save some of them. At the end of the 7 years of rule, he will blaspheme God and challenge God to a fight and then Christ will return with His armies and destroy Him. At that time, Christ will set up His rightful Kingdom and rule and reign on the earth.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:55 am

xfrodobagginsx;1530031 wrote: All of the Governments of the World are financing it. Looking for something to bite into, this is probably our best bet because if this is accurate there will be a paper/money trail. Can you show me from where in the budget the American Government (and exactly how much money) has been contributing their share as well as to whom the money has gone to?

If you've been convinced of this and you're not just lost down a rabbit hole, surely you've seen the evidence of the financing this One World Government enjoys? I ask because you'd never present something to us that you've not researched extensively - right?

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:08 pm

Ahso!;1530034 wrote: Looking for something to bite into, this is probably our best bet because if this is accurate there will be a paper/money trail. Can you show me from where in the budget the American Government (and exactly how much money) has been contributing their share as well as to whom the money has gone to?

If you've been convinced of this and you're not just lost down a rabbit hole, surely you've seen the evidence of the financing this One World Government enjoys? I ask because you'd never present something to us that you've not researched extensively - right?

Yes, the Budget for the United Nations:

"The United States is the largest provider of financial contributions to the United Nations, providing 22 percent of the entire UN budget in 2017 (in comparison the next biggest contributor is China with 12.5 percent, while EU countries pay a total of above 30 percent)."

The US also spends money on Foreign Aid which I believe may have ulterior motives of pushing it as well.

Ultimately, it will be the European Union that wins and forms the NWO according to the Biblical Scholars. The European Union is the Revived Roman Empire. This stuff has been talked about by Christians LONG before they were formed.

So, the Funding is already going to these 2 main areas. It's not too hard to figure out.

There is a lot of other evidence, but you didn't want to see it remember? You said to tell it to you straight and I did.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:06 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1530056 wrote: Yes, the Budget for the United Nations:

"The United States is the largest provider of financial contributions to the United Nations, providing 22 percent of the entire UN budget in 2017That would be tRump's watch then.

You haven't shown anything worth considering sensible. What you can't do is pick an institution and claim it has nefarious ends because someone else, or some group of people with an agenda of their own say so. You have to provide proof. You say Satan is the head of the thing, then show us Satan sitting at the head of the table.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:08 pm

Ahso!;1530061 wrote: That would be tRump's watch then.

You haven't shown anything worth considering sensible. What you can't do is pick an institution and claim it has nefarious ends because someone else, or some group of people with an agenda of their own say so. You have to provide proof. You say Satan is the head of the thing, then show us Satan sitting at the head of the table.

But Trump is the one proposing that we may well be better off pulling out of the UN since we contribute most of the money and don't get much in return. Trump is a Nationalist, not a Globalist, which is another big reason that the elites hate him so much.

I began to give you evidence for my views and you pretty much told me not to bore you with rabbit holes. You can't have it both ways. I am not just believing this because someone with an agenda says so. If you want to see the evidence, then look at it or at least skim it and consider that there might be some validity to it. satan isn't sitting at the head of the table yet. It hasn't come to fruition yet. It is forming. Brexit was a big set back for those who are trying to form the NWO.

What you are seeing in the New World Order is predicted in the Bible thousands of years ago. Now would you like to see evidence?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:14 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1530068 wrote: But Trump is the one proposing that we may well be better off pulling out of the UN since we contribute most of the money and don't get much in return. Trump is a Nationalist, not a Globalist, which is another big reason that the elites hate him so much.

I began to give you evidence for my views and you pretty much told me not to bore you with rabbit holes. You can't have it both ways. I am not just believing this because someone with an agenda says so. If you want to see the evidence, then look at it or at least skim it and consider that there might be some validity to it. satan isn't sitting at the head of the table yet. It hasn't come to fruition yet. It is forming. Brexit was a big set back for those who are trying to form the NWO.

What you are seeing in the New World Order is predicted in the Bible thousands of years ago. Now would you like to see evidence?tRump is still financing them. Conspiracy theories are not evidence, they're rabbit holes. I warned you I won't be following you down any rabbit holes.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:02 pm

Ahso!;1530070 wrote: tRump is still financing them. Conspiracy theories are not evidence, they're rabbit holes. I warned you I won't be following you down any rabbit holes.

I didn't go down a rabbit hole. I offered you evidence that you refused to look at in the President's own words. You can't sum that up to be merely "Conspiracy Theory" When the person actually tells you what they believe.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:11 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1530110 wrote: I didn't go down a rabbit hole. I offered you evidence that you refused to look at in the President's own words. You can't sum that up to be merely "Conspiracy Theory" When the person actually tells you what they believe.Right! You believe in conspiracy theories. Rabbit holes!

Post by **LarsMac** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:33 pm

Ahso!;1530111 wrote: Right! You believe in conspiracy theories. Rabbit holes!

Don't forget the Straw Dogs.