ForumGarden

flopstock;493079 wrote: I think this thread needs to be moved to the 'compost pile'.



It certainly explains why you bunch of losers never get what you want for christmas... I always do!:p



Sometimes it's not what I thought I was wishing for, but that just makes it that much more magical.



What a sad crew you folks are turning out to be...:wah:


:wah: Hahaha shame we can't all be a non-loser like you Floppy huh!!

my husband found out Santa wasn't real when he caught his older brother eating the cookies that were left out for Santa...:yh_giggle

What do you MEAN... Santa isn't real..??? Everyone knows he is.. shheeeshh.. silly adults

hello floppy darling.. have you missed turtle boy... :-4

Well, my three year old defo believes. He gets a Christmas card from Santa, and we leave reindeer food for rudolph and cookies and milk for santa of course. I then have to eat them, with a few crumbs trailing away. He also thinks (and I have no clue where this idea started LOL) that you get to the North Pole by jumping into a magic place under the Christmas Tree :wah:

I believed until I was 11. My parents were wonderful about it, and when i finally realized what the deal was, it was still special because they helped me understand that the spirit of Santa is real, else Christmas wouldn't be what it is every single year. And, of course, mom still continued the tradition every year, regardless

So, as my avi says, I still believe in Santa Claus

greydeadhead;493110 wrote: What do you MEAN... Santa isn't real..??? Everyone knows he is.. shheeeshh.. silly adults


Okay I'll take your word for it. I'll have to start writing my Xmas list again then!! :p

I'm sending hugs, Betty. I grew up in a family at war, and Christmas was murder!! Grin. It's nice now.

I'm really surprised to read the ages of kids who apparently still believe in Santa. 12!!!!!

Kids learn from observation and osmose information. They see people of all sizes in shopping malls dressed up in red (sweating fiercely in the heat here) saying ho ho ho! Kids aren't stupid. How many Santas are there??? They have intelligence and senses of humour, and wonder.. all kind of mixed in there. I reckon it's like birds and bees stuff, they cotton on pretty early, in their own time, to the general realities. Can sort out actual logistics later.

Kids are capable of willing suspension of disbelief, just like adults. And in Australia you need a lot of that - reindeer running through snow!!!! (It's a hundred degrees and NO SNOW), sleigh bells jingling (oh yeah), chimneys (very rare), stockings to hang by the fire (not nowhow)... etc etc. BUT GREAT FUN. Santa's part of the general fun, but no big deal.

I never used the threat. Be good or Santa won't bring you any pressies. The family just acquired Santa at Chrissie along with the needle shedding tree, the pretty lights and lots of silly songs about rudolph's red nose.

chris221273;7847 wrote: Hi all

What age do u think is right for a child to be told Santa isnt real?????

My ex to my utter disgust told my daughter last year (when she was only 6yrs old) that he wasnt real, because her current partner isnt much into xmas.......or come to think of it anything exciting!!!!

It took me and a friend many months to convince her that he was real and was looking forward to surprising her with lots of things from 'Santa' only to find out my ex has once again told her he isnt real on the run up to Christmas.

So..........when is the right time?

I think before they start secondary school is fine...maybe a bit younger if they are bright/mature for there age.

But 6 yrs old!!!!!!!

Any replys much appreciated.

Thanks in Advance.

Chris.
what do you mean santa's not real? i'd never tell a child that, let the magic of beliieving what you believe survive within your soul forever.

chrisb84uk;493191 wrote: Okay I'll take your word for it. I'll have to start writing my Xmas list again then!! :p


Yeah man.. Infact .. here is part of the story of Santa Man...

Once upon a time, about, hmmm, five years ago, there was this groovy dude

and has name was Santa Claus, y'know? And he used to live over in the

projects with his old lady, and they had a pretty good thing together

because his old lady was really fine, and she could cook and all that

stuff like that, y'know. Like, she made da best brownies in town, man!

Oh, I could remember 'em now, man. I could eat ONE of 'em, man...

OKay... a prize to the one that can recognize where this comes from..and no cheating.....

"DEAR EDITOR: I am 8 years old.

"Some of my little friends say there is no Santa Claus.

"Papa says, 'If you see it in THE SUN it's so.'

"Please tell me the truth; is there a Santa Claus?



"VIRGINIA O'HANLON.

"115 WEST NINETY-FIFTH STREET."



VIRGINIA, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except [what] they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's, are little. In this great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.



Yes, VIRGINIA, there is a Santa Claus. He exists certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! How dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus! It would be as dreary as if there were no VIRGINIAS. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.



Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas Eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if they did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.



You tear apart the baby's rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest man that ever lived, could tear apart. Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, VIRGINIA, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding. No Santa Claus! Thank GOD! He lives, and he lives forever. A thousand years from now, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.

above circa 1897. and classic.

and yet some more story of the Santa Man....

They used to live next door to me, y'know...until they

got kicked out, man.

They used ta live with all these midgets,

y'know, and da midgets used ta make a lot noise, y'know, like pounding and

hammering and pounding all night, man...

a classic here folks...

and a bit more....

Oh, yeah, man, they were REALLY freaks, man. As a matter of fact, they

all moved up north together, y'know.

And they started a commune, y'know. It

was called the...uh...Santa Claus and his Old Lady Commune...it was a

real famous one up there, man. And they used to sit around and groove

all the time, y'know.

once a year, when they

made all the goodies, y'know, they used ta put 'em in a big chopping bag

and, then, they used ta take da chopping bag and give 'em to all the

boys and girls all da way around da world, man!

any guesses here yet.....

Haven't a clue Greydeadhead!!! Where have you been skiing???? I'm heading to Canada in Jan.

MrsK - I heard that in parts of the Snowy Mountains they are in fact possibly going to get a few white flakes. We really do live in a very odd country!!

Latest forecast here in Canberra for Christmas Day is Min 5C max 19C (41F to 62F) !! after earlier forecasts of century heat. This is good eating weather!!!