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99th Monkey;955594 wrote: To much Monkey time gone and still I search all alone for my 100th Monkey,

:-1
Mybe it's still spud washing.

Carolly;956274 wrote: Got somefing to confess............I aint a bleedin clue what this thread is about:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflIt's about a paranormal power being popularised by pretending it's mainstream science. It's pretending that all Japanese macaques are in telepathic communication with each other in a given area and that once a proportion of them know a new trick they're all suddenly able to make use of it, as in "Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind.".

The phenomenon claimed by Watson is "the instant, paranormal spreading of an idea or ability to the remainder of a population once a certain portion of that population has heard of the new idea or learned the new ability", that's the Wikipedia summary and it seems adequate. Ron Amundson points out the alternative normal acceptable alternative methods by which the data might be reasonably explained. What he offers is believable. Is the thread suggesting that Watson's interpretation is equivalently believable? As Amundson says, "The Japanese monkeys are known to be both clever and mobile, and either characteristic might explain the interisland spread of potato washing. Watson ignores both explanations, preferring to invent a new paranormal power." I think it is. I'm inviting 99th Monkey to discuss whether, in the light of Amundson's criticisms, this thread is solely a faith-domain or does science get a nose in?

The Maharishi Effect has a similar feel to it.

99th Monkey;956259 wrote: It's time for Monkey to go :-1

Everything will be alright :-3


Good night Monkey:-6

Don't be sad...sleep tight....

99th Monkey;956259 wrote: It's time for Monkey to go :-1

Everything will be alright :-3


I hope not for good. I think you're cute. :-6

Here, this is quite similar too.

In the 1980s, Billie, one of the females in the group, spent a few weeks in a local dolphinarium recovering from malnutrition and sickness, a consequence of having been trapped in a marina lock. She received no training there, but may have seen others tail-walking. Now, other females in the group have picked up the habit. It is seen rarely in the wild, and the obvious inference is that they have learned it from Billie.

"This indicates that they do learn from each other, which is not a surprise really, but it does also seem that they exhibit elements of what in humans we would call 'cultural' behaviour," said Dr Bossley. "These are things that groups develop and are passed between individuals and that come to define those groups, such as language or dancing; and it would seem that among the Port River dolphins we may have an incipient tail-walking culture." The "cultural" transmission of ideas and skills has been documented in apes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7570097.stm



Nobody's suggesting that wild dolphins are beginning to perform aquarium tricks through telepathic links with captive populations, I hope.

spot;956294 wrote: It's about a paranormal power being popularised by pretending it's mainstream science. It's pretending that all Japanese macaques are in telepathic communication with each other in a given area and that once a proportion of them know a new trick they're all suddenly able to make use of it, as in "Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind.".

The phenomenon claimed by Watson is "the instant, paranormal spreading of an idea or ability to the remainder of a population once a certain portion of that population has heard of the new idea or learned the new ability", that's the Wikipedia summary and it seems adequate. Ron Amundson points out the alternative normal acceptable alternative methods by which the data might be reasonably explained. What he offers is believable. Is the thread suggesting that Watson's interpretation is equivalently believable? As Amundson says, "The Japanese monkeys are known to be both clever and mobile, and either characteristic might explain the interisland spread of potato washing. Watson ignores both explanations, preferring to invent a new paranormal power." I think it is. I'm inviting 99th Monkey discuss whether, in the light of Amundson's criticisms, this thread is solely a faith-domain or does science get a nose in?

The Maharishi Effect has a similar feel to it.Fanks for making that so clear Spot:D:driving:

99th Monkey;956936 wrote:



So I see the 100th Monkey like a step up on the evolutionary ladder for our consciousness...


Well that settles it then clearly its Carolly.

99th Monkey;956936 wrote: a lot of research is very strongly suggesting that the quantum level of the universe is such a universal memory and consciousness.That's what I need to focus on then, since I've seen none of it. Perhaps you could suggest a text from a competent researcher you'd recommend?

buttercup;956962 wrote: Well that settles it then clearly its Carolly.Schhhhh;)

99th Monkey left us?

G-man;957119 wrote: 99th Monkey left us?
I reckon that leaves us with 98.



Take one down pass it around..

I think Jimbo scared the monkey off. :-3

G-man;957146 wrote: I think Jimbo scared the monkey off. :-3
If you spank the monkey to often it does tend to get sore..:-2

jimbo;957084 wrote: ian hurry back :-6:-6 your more than a novelty my friend


monkey was Ian?? I'm always the last to know everything around here...:yh_silly

sunny104;958065 wrote: monkey was Ian?? I'm always the last to know everything around here...:yh_silly


Yup. You need to stick around more often, Sunny.

I am destined to died a bitter lonely old woman.... :-1

I had thought that there was a glimmer of light when the monkey showed itself...dang!:(

Don't feel sad, Floppy... I have a feeling that the monkey will return.