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spot;1086503 wrote: If you scarper from the Sweeney they'll shoot.Ye they may very well lol.

fuzzy butt;1086512 wrote: Nope, have good friends from Sussex. (can't understand a word they say when they're drinking) but they always come out with it. "a bit of who's up you fathers mother " when they are commenting or dissmissing gossip.

oh and another ."you're a right wally"Sussex???What in England??Of course its England fgs........well I didnt know if you had one in Oz lol!!!!

Oh yes a Wally is a Twit:D

Oh if you go out and have a Ruby Murray.......you have a Curry:D

If I ask Chris if his going to put on his Whistle and Flute its means his Suit:D

fuzzy butt;1086512 wrote: Nope, have good friends from Sussex. (can't understand a word they say when they're drinking) but they always come out with it. "a bit of who's up you fathers mother " when they are commenting or dissmissing gossip.


I tried checking this and came up instead with this delightful passage...According to Michael Kelly, a writer and historian in New Zealand, "the origin of the expression 'how's your father' can be traced back to Victorian times. In those days any man with a daughter was so protective of her virtue that he would take extraordinary measures to safeguard it. Unmarried girls would be kept within the bosom of their family as much as possible, chaperoned on excursions, and on those occasions when they were let out of bounds for social events, their fathers would often accompany them discreetly by hiding underneath their voluminous skirts ready to pounce on any man who transgressed the bounds of propriety.

However, a father with more than one daughter couldn't be everywhere at once. Thus, a suitor having a discreet vis-a-vis with his beloved would cautiously ascertain her father's whereabouts by asking, 'And how is your father?' If her father was currently under her skirts, she would glance downwards and reply, 'My father is very well, thank you, and as alert and vigorous as ever, and maintains his interest in rusty castrating implements.' Her beau would then say, 'I have always had the greatest respect for your father, and of course for you. Let us hold hands and think about the Queen for a while.' If, on the other hand, her father was elsewhere, she would reply, 'The mad old bastard is currently stationed between my sister Constance's thighs. Let us go into the garden and rut like stoats.' I've rarely seen anything so well constructed. Or, come to that, so entirely untrue.

fuzzy butt;1086522 wrote: WHAT?:-2

What has your "checking" got to do with expressions used by my friends?I'm naturally interested in learning about something I've not heard before.

spot;1086503 wrote: If you scarper from the Sweeney they'll shoot.


Does your syrup slip Spot?

oscar;1086421 wrote: PONTIFICATION AND FELICITATIONS

There's two.


But what do they mean oscar? :yh_rotfl

Carolly;1086500 wrote: Although Nosh and Kosher are both Jewish words they are used alot by Eastenders and many Londoners.....Nosh being Food and Kosher meaning.....its not bent.....which means its legal lol.Of course Kosher as a Jewish word means something else.


I can't help it, but every time I hear Kosher I think of a dill pickle. :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

fuzzy butt;1086501 wrote: down the nick - police station

Well heeled - your rich

who's up your fathers mother - means gossip


That last one sounds very naughty!! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Is it just me, or do others think some of these sound plain ol naughty? :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

fuzzy butt;1086522 wrote: WHAT?:-2

What has your "checking" got to do with expressions used by my friends?

Carol, of course Sussex in England:yh_rotfl ................Ya wally!!!!:yh_rotflNice one:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

shelbell;1086619 wrote: I can't help it, but every time I hear Kosher I think of a dill pickle. :yh_rotfl:yh_rotflI fink of a chicken so dont worry about it:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:D

Fun thread carolly

The great thing about cockney rhyming slang is that it’s always changing and developing and although the vast majority of the slang has it’s origins in the good old days lots of modern words and phrases get absorbed into it and they are like little signposts of the era they come from; a good example might be ‘Chas and dave’ (shave) I’m sure carolly will tell you who chas and dave are, being a wicked songstress herself . another might be Pete Tong (90’s radio D.J) as in “it’s all gone pete Tong (wrong) there’s thousands of these in everyday use in London (although not as much as they used to) and it always brings a smile to my boat race (face) when I hear one used in general conversation.

“I’ll have a quick chas and dave, comb me barnet fair, give you a bell on the dog and bone, jump in me jam jar, nip down the frog and toad and meet you and your trouble and strife in the rub a dub for a couple of pigs ears and if we get a bit hank marvin later we’ll have a ruby murray

translation required carolly :)

Ludwig

shelbell;1086621 wrote: Is it just me, or do others think some of these sound plain ol naughty? :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflShell wash your mouth........would I say anyfing rude fgs woman:rolleyes::D

Ludwig Van B;1086652 wrote: Fun thread carolly

The great thing about cockney rhyming slang is that it’s always changing and developing and although the vast majority of the slang has it’s origins in the good old days lots of modern words and phrases get absorbed into it and they are like little signposts of the era they come from; a good example might be ‘Chas and dave’ (shave) I’m sure carolly will tell you who chas and dave are, being a wicked songstress herself . another might be Pete Tong (90’s radio D.J) as in “it’s all gone pete Tong (wrong) there’s thousands of these in everyday use in London (although not as much as they used to) and it always brings a smile to my boat race (face) when I hear one used in general conversation.

“I’ll have a quick chas and dave, comb me barnet fair, give you a bell on the dog and bone, jump in me jam jar, nip down the frog and toad and meet you and your trouble and strife in the rub a dub for a couple of pigs ears and if we get a bit hank marvin later we’ll have a ruby murray

translation required carolly :)

LudwigFab post Ludwig......fanks;)Actually worked with Chas and Dave some years ago..........great Guys:DThere still gigging out there;)

Oh yer forgot about the Barnet lol......ive already mentioned dear old Ruby Murray....."Softly" wasn't the song;)

I loved your input here and welcome some more me:D:guitarist

Peter Lake;1086541 wrote: Does your syrup slip Spot?For our Friends abroad a Syrup of Figs is a Wig;)

Teeth............ Hampstead Heath

Legs................... Scotch eggs

Eyes ...............Mince pies

Arms................ Chalk Farms

Head ......Loaf of bread

Face ............Boat race

Mouth............ North and South

:D

Carolly;1086653 wrote: Shell wash your mouth........would I say anyfing rude fgs woman:rolleyes::D


You? not rude.... :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Ok, I give up! I'll never remember any of this. To much info for one small pea brain!! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

shelbell;1086715 wrote: Ok, I give up! I'll never remember any of this. To much info for one small pea brain!! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotflWell you should be very proud of yerself mate as fanks to you many people here will now know some really posh upmarket English words:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl;)

jimbo;1086736 wrote: do you know where posh came from .... port out starboard home



posh





YouTube - Posh!!!Er............explain more please Winkle:rolleyes::-2

jimbo;1086750 wrote: oi lazy bones look at the linkI got a dancing bleedin Father Christmas ffs:-5:-5:-5and not a very posh one may I add:sneaky::p

jimbo;1086788 wrote: not that link the youtube posh link :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflOh ffs:-5:-5:(..ok:driving:

jimbo;1086789 wrote: YouTube - Posh!!!



there you go whelk:yh_rotfl:yh_rotflNice One;)

Carolly;1086792 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotflNice One;)


Are you avin a giraffe??

Carolly;1086420 wrote: Ok Grub is Food

Geezer is a Bloke

Dosh is Money............but these words I see most of you have picked up anyway looking at the threads:yh_rotfl

I found it odd the other day when I said I knocked up a cake.......meaning.... I made a cake.......and Ducky thought I had shagged one fgs as thats what it means where she comes from:wah:


I am still laughing at that one silly chick!:yh_rotfl

Knocked up means you got preggars here:sneaky:

Bun in the oven - preggars again:wah:

:-3 Boy I would be in big trouble there Carolly none of this makes one ounce of sense to me. Why because it doesn't make any sense ..:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Mouth.. "North and South" why???? what does north and south have to do with your mouth. Once again I ask what do you call North and South if your headed that way??? I guess since all the made up words for these parts of the body already have names I'm at a lose as to why they have other names. We just call them what they are seems simple enough. Believe me I'm trying to understand the logic here and can't seem to find it.

[QUOTE]Teeth............ Hampstead Heath:-5

Legs................... Scotch eggs

Eyes ...............Mince pies

Arms................ Chalk Farms

Head ......Loaf of bread

Face ............Boat race :-2

Mouth............ North and South????? what???[/QUOTE]

Feet - dogs

Fingers - digits

Nose - honker

CARLA;1086883 wrote: Believe me I'm trying to understand the logic here and can't seem to find it.


The answer's in Henry Mayhew, if you can ever find a copy (and you really ought to, it's one of those life-changing books which just fills out a whole void in your understanding of the world).

It's called (excuse my memory, I'm writing this on the fly and I may be wrong) London Labour And The London Poor. Henry Mayhew was a social reformer of around 1870 (like General Booth mentioned earlier) and spent an impossible amount of time interviewing the lower classes in London and writing up what he discovered in Punch articles, finally collating them into five books. Volumes 1-4 are usually published together under the one title. Volume 5 was unsuitable for publication (at the time) and dealt with the London Underworld.

He discusses rhyming slang and essentially found it to be an offshoot of criminal cant. Cant originated as a way of allowing criminals to discuss without their plans being overheard and betrayed. Rhyming slang was more like the rap of its day, if you could do it and invent it in real-time you were admired. Then it was written down, learned and used by people who thought it was funny. Meanwhile a lot of the best expressions had become a part of the standard vocabulary among the London Poor and their descendants.

Does that help?

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Fair enough Gsduck I stand corrected but Fingers are really digits in medical terminology. :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl I guess we all have funny word for things.

[QUOTE]Feet - dogs

Fingers - digits

Nose - honker[/QUOTE]

Boy Spot I better find this book before the Olympics in 2012 I will be lost daily without it. :wah:

[QUOTE]The answer's in Henry Mayhew, if you can ever find a copy (and you really ought to, it's one of those life-changing books which just fills out a whole void in your understanding of the world).

It's called (excuse my memory, I'm writing this on the fly and I may be wrong) London Labour And The London Poor. Henry Mayhew was a social reformer of around 1870 (like General Booth) and spent an impossible amount of time interviewing the lower classes in London and writing up what he discovered in Punch articles, finally collating them into five books. Volumes 1-4 are usually published together under the one title. Volume 5 was unsuitable for publication (at the time) and dealt with the London Underworld.

He discusses rhyming slang and essentially found it to be an offshoot of criminal cant. Cant originated as a way of allowing criminals to discuss without their plans being overheard and betrayed. Rhyming slang was more like the rap of its day, if you could do it and invent it in real-time you were admired. Then it was written down, learned and used by people who thought it was funny. Meanwhile a lot of the best expressions had become a part of the standard vocabulary among the London Poor and their descendants.

Does that help?

[/QUOTE]

CARLA;1086896 wrote: Boy Spot I better find this book before the Olympics in 2012 I will be lost daily without it. :wah:


London Labour and the London Poor Volume I: Henry Mayhew: 0486219348

US$ 8.53 including delivery, 510 pages - it's what used to be called Volumes 1-4 but people seem to have forgotten the original divisions. This is the one I was talking about anyhow.

oscar;1086810 wrote: Are you avin a giraffe??Sure am mate..........someone has to:yh_rotfl;)

Carolly;1086976 wrote: Sure am mate..........someone has to:yh_rotfl;)


Here it is somebody is having a cow:yh_rotfl

qsducks;1086857 wrote: I am still laughing at that one silly chick!:yh_rotfl

Knocked up means you got preggars here:sneaky:

Bun in the oven - preggars again:wah:
Ye we say that here babe also but when you knock up a sandwich or a cake it dont mean we are having secret sex with them:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

CARLA;1086883 wrote: :-3 Boy I would be in big trouble there Carolly none of this makes one ounce of sense to me. Why because it doesn't make any sense ..:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Mouth.. "North and South" why???? what does north and south have to do with your mouth. Once again I ask what do you call North and South if your headed that way??? I guess since all the made up words for these parts of the body already have names I'm at a lose as to why they have other names. We just call them what they are seems simple enough. Believe me I'm trying to understand the logic here and can't seem to find it. ;)Cant stop laughing..............will be back:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Carolly;1086978 wrote: Ye we say that here babe also but when you knock up a sandwich or a cake it dont mean we are having secret sex with them:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


With you Carolly you never know:sneaky:

qsducks;1086982 wrote: With you Carolly you never know:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Carolly;1086984 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


So glad to know I made your day:wah:

CARLA;1086883 wrote: :-3 Boy I would be in big trouble there Carolly none of this makes one ounce of sense to me. Why because it doesn't make any sense ..:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Mouth.. "North and South" why???? what does north and south have to do with your mouth. Once again I ask what do you call North and South if your headed that way??? I guess since all the made up words for these parts of the body already have names I'm at a lose as to why they have other names. We just call them what they are seems simple enough. Believe me I'm trying to understand the logic here and can't seem to find it. ;)Carla your post so made me laugh:wah:.....hope this will help you babe;)

Rhyming Slang phrases are derived from taking an expression which rhymes with a word and then using that expression instead of the word. For example the word "look" rhymes with "butcher's hook". In many cases the rhyming word is omitted - so you won't find too many Londoners having a "bucher's hook" at this site, but you might find a few having a "butcher's".

The rhyming word is not always omitted so C.ockney expressions can vary in their construction, and it is simply a matter of convention which version is used.:DSee simple:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Carolly;1086989 wrote: Carla your post so made me laugh:wah:.....hope this will help you babe;)

Rhyming Slang phrases are derived from taking an expression which rhymes with a word and then using that expression instead of the word. For example the word "look" rhymes with "butcher's hook". In many cases the rhyming word is omitted - so you won't find too many Londoners having a "bucher's hook" at this site, but you might find a few having a "butcher's".

The rhyming word is not always omitted so C.ockney expressions can vary in their construction, and it is simply a matter of convention which version is used.:DSee simple:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


swot I said innit!