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gmc wrote: posted by 813





I think you should make an effort. A discussion with the fist of reasoned debate would do you the world of good.



capn buzzard

I see David Trimble has lost his seat and his party all but gone. What do you reckon to Ian Paisley? Orange marching season here seems like the heid bangers are either gaining strength or are in the last throes can't make up my mind which.



Incidentally david813 ever read Freidrish Engels "Condition of The Working Class in England"? As a good socialist I'm sure you have. Have a reread of what he says about the Irish, good honest racism and bigotry.Oh gmc, I love all the marching bands. The Doc (Rev Ian) said thing morning, ''Lord Carson had a cat, it sat on the fender. And every time he saw a rat, he shouted 'No Surrender''.

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David813 wrote: We have much work to do here. Inside the beast! I'd LOVE a trip to Ireland, but not Occupied Ireland. That would be like visiting East Jerusalem! I'm sorry if my political persuasion isn't to your liking. I have no reason or desire to aggravate you. I feel the same fire when I think of capitalism, imperialism, Israeli apartheid and racism. I'm really not a bad lad.Ask your Noraid friends to help

The troubled history of the island of Ireland, the republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland, Ireland and its relationship with Britain / Great Britain, Ulster, `the Troubles` etc etc needs a dissertation about the combined length of all the volumes of the Encyclopaedia Brittanica , to explain and even begin to understand.

It`s only natural that different people on `different sides of the fence` will hold different opinions, but please, let`s not have such bald statements as "I am pro-Real IRA". Do you mean you support the killing of innocent civilians? So what is the difference (other than one of scale, because USA is larger than Ulster) between 4000 innocent people getting killed on 11/9/01 ("9/11" in American notation) in a terrorist attack, and 29 getting killed in Omagh by the real IRA? Surely random acts of terrorism are simply NOT a solution?

john8pies wrote: The troubled history of the island of Ireland, the republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland, Ireland and its relationship with Britain / Great Britain, Ulster, `the Troubles` etc etc needs a dissertation about the combined length of all the volumes of the Encyclopaedia Brittanica , to explain and even begin to understand.



It`s only natural that different people on `different sides of the fence` will hold different opinions, but please, let`s not have such bald statements as "I am pro-Real IRA". Do you mean you support the killing of innocent civilians? So what is the difference (other than one of scale, because USA is larger than Ulster) between 4000 innocent people getting killed on 11/9/01 ("9/11" in American notation) in a terrorist attack, and 29 getting killed in Omagh by the real IRA? Surely random acts of terrorism are simply NOT a solution?70% of Southern Irish people get along very well with our neighbours in the United Kingdom.

capt_buzzard wrote: 70% of Southern Irish people get along very well with our neighbours in the United Kingdom.May I echo that, from the UK side? I've back-packed alone through both Northern Ireland - around Limavady, mostly - and the South, notably from Tara toward the west, and a more beautiful land or more rational well-adjusted folk I've never encountered. It was a privilege to have been there and met those that I met. We English have damaged society there for centuries, and to the extent that I can speak for anyone, I apologise for it.

spot wrote: May I echo that, from the UK side? I've back-packed alone through both Northern Ireland - around Limavady, mostly - and the South, notably from Tara toward the west, and a more beautiful land or more rational well-adjusted folk I've never encountered. It was a privilege to have been there and met those that I met. We English have damaged society there for centuries, and to the extent that I can speak for anyone, I apologise for it.Spot, you do not have to apologize for anything.

Most of the revolutionaries of Irish history were (believe it or not) Englishmen.

capt_buzzard wrote: Wrong mister.Captian, that was in response to "Who is the President of Republican Sinn Fein?" - "Gerry Adams"... would you like to tell us what you mean? http://www.sinnfein.org/documents/gerry.html says he is. I'm just puzzled, maybe you mis-read the question?

spot wrote: Captian, that was in response to "Who is the President of Republican Sinn Fein?" - "Gerry Adams"... would you like to tell us what you mean? http://www.sinnfein.org/documents/gerry.html says he is. I'm just puzzled, maybe you mis-read the question?Mr Gerry Adams is president of Provisional IRA Sinn Fein. Mr Rory Brady is president of Republican Real IRA Sinn Fein.

capt_buzzard wrote: Mr Gerry Adams is president of Provisional IRA Sinn Fein. Mr Rory Brady is president of Republican Real IRA Sinn Fein.Good lord... I had no idea there WAS such a thing!

spot wrote: Good lord... I had no idea there WAS such a thing! There you are.