9 yr. old shoots Uzi kills instructor

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:31 pm

tude dog;1463377 wrote: Here's what you wrote.

I took it that your point is there is no mention of automatic weapons, so it was no trouble to make it clear there are no restrictions.

Of course, the writers had NO conception that such a thing would ever be possible...

which is exactly why the Constitution can be amended.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:43 pm

I guess it's only a matter of time when the civilians start to demand the right to own their own nukes.

Post by **LarsMac** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:48 pm

Well, since you guys don't have any guns, they will take your knives, next.

BBC News - Craig Maddocks's family backs knife campaign

BBC News - Officers arrest 450 in knife crime operation

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:37 am

I don't really see the point of the Knife Bank, to be honest. After all, the type of person who would carry a knife in the first place is not the type of person to go & find a Knife Bank just so that they can make a deposit - unless, of course, they're trying to get rid of some evidence that might incriminate them - but even then, all they would do is just get another knife.

What I find really stupid is that it is also illegal to buy a Stanley / Craft Knife online - that is to have the knife & the blades sent in the same package.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:10 am

LarsMac;1463462 wrote: Well, since you guys don't have any guns, they will take your knives, next.

BBC News - Craig Maddocks's family backs knife campaign

BBC News - Officers arrest 450 in knife crime operation

They're bit backward in england, in scotland carryng a knife in a public place without a good reason (eg a chef or carpet fitter going to work, or as part of national costume ) carries a maximum penalty on summary conviction is imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (£5000) or both. The maximum penalty on conviction on indictment is imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years, or a fine or both. There is an exemption for folding pocket knives with a cutting edge of 3 inches or less.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:35 am

gmc;1463476 wrote: They're bit backward in england, in scotland carryng a knife in a public place without a good reason (eg a chef or carpet fitter going to work, or as part of national costume ) carries a maximum penalty on summary conviction is imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (£5000) or both. The maximum penalty on conviction on indictment is imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years, or a fine or both. There is an exemption for folding pocket knives with a cutting edge of 3 inches or less.

Don't know what the differences are but it is very much the same down here (in the mother country.....snigger)

We had a knife murder in our town last year, where a husband bought a kitchen knife from a super market on his journey to stab and kill his estranged wife.

So you can't really legislate for the nutters, if it had been an uzi he might have sprayed the High st with automatic fire on exiting his wifes hairdressing salon after the murder......he had nothing to lose at that stage.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:30 am

Saint_;1463431 wrote: ..... which is exactly why the Constitution can be amended.

And where is that new thread? I can't initiate myself because I don't have any knowledge on the subject. I'm waiting for you to do it.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:58 pm

Bruv;1463416 wrote: You can make America one big theme park Disneyland, Vegas, now..........Gun Tourism

State/county I live in garners a lot of revenue due to firearm related activities.

I was not raised a hunter, now I live in the middle of some prime hunting country is a blessing.

For what it is worth, between ages of 8-12 grew up like three miles of Disneyland in an area which still smelled of cattle manure.

My point being whatever attracts tourists, bringing their money is a good thing.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:26 pm

Brilliant business for Undertakers.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:02 pm

Saint_;1463431 wrote: Of course, the writers had NO conception that such a thing would ever be possible...

which is exactly why the Constitution can be amended.

I would maintain they would have no problem with citizens today, like in their day possessing the most advances firearms available.

In fact those revolutionaries would insist citizens have weapon equal to the ruling government.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:32 pm

tude dog;1463539 wrote: .... whatever attracts tourists, bringing their money is a good thing.

I'm sure you believe that. Prostitution? Fracking? Hell's Angels Jamboree? 10 cent beer night at Smudley's "centre of town" shooting range?

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:21 pm

High Threshold;1463552 wrote: I'm sure you believe that. Prostitution? Fracking? Hell's Angels Jamboree? 10 cent beer night at Smudley's "centre of town" shooting range?

In Nevada prostitution outside Las Vegas is legal. I dunno but wouldn't be shocked to find out it is legal in other places in this country. Furthermore I suspect law enforcement oftentimes just overlooks some institutions of ill repute.

Personally I take a dim view of prostitution. Prostitution itself is not an issue to me.

"Fracking?" I have zero problem with oil exploitation.

"10 cent beer night at Smudley's "centre of town" shooting range?"

10 cent beer night anywhere is a recipe for trouble.

Ten Cent Beer Night

I'll better that though I have no links. For many years I worked for a company which once a year held a company picknic. Well, they once did a free beer thing and it was interesting.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:14 pm

tude dog;1463600 wrote: 10 cent beer night anywhere is a recipe for trouble.

Ten Cent Beer Night

So.......you are more like the Brits than you will admit then.

(perhaps that's why we don't have guns)

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:36 pm

10 cent beer night is applicable anywhere. The only catch is that they don't tell you how much beer you'll get for your 10 cents. An eggcupful, perhaps.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:07 pm

tude dog;1463600 wrote: In Nevada prostitution outside Las Vegas is legal. I dunno but wouldn't be shocked to find out it is legal in other places in this country. Furthermore I suspect law enforcement oftentimes just overlooks some institutions of ill repute.

Personally I take a dim view of prostitution. Prostitution itself is not an issue to me.

"Fracking?" I have zero problem with oil exploitation.

"10 cent beer night at Smudley's "centre of town" shooting range?"

10 cent beer night anywhere is a recipe for trouble.

Ten Cent Beer Night

I'll better that though I have no links. For many years I worked for a company which once a year held a company picknic. Well, they once did a free beer thing and it was interesting.

Well, I was trying to get you to admit that you wouldn't be pleased if any one of those were to happen where you live, but I don't know where you live so I might be wrong. I just think that “whatever attracts tourists, bringing their money might NOT be “a good thing. Know what I mean?

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:36 am

High Threshold;1463638 wrote: Well, I was trying to get you to admit that you wouldn't be pleased if any one of those were to happen where you live, but I don't know where you live so I might be wrong. I just think that “whatever attracts tourists, bringing their money might NOT be “a good thing. Know what I mean?

Well, here is one for you.

Colorado just recently legalized Pot. There are a lot of rules around it, but it is no legal to possess pot in the state. Many communities made laws to prohibit the sale and public use. We have people coming to Colorado, now, to buy pot, and smoke it legally. Many folks around here are not liking the new rules. The problem though, is now they either have to smoke before they go home, or try to take it home with them. The TSA is looking for pot at the airport (It is still a federal crime) and several neighboring states seem to have troopers camping at the state line to try and catch drivers who might be "smuggling" pot into their state.

At least once a day, now, I catch a whiff of that unmistakable aroma somewhere about town. Often at traffic lights, and I notice an out-of-state car whose passengers appear very pleased with themselves.

I personally have no problem with people smoking pot, but it drives my wife to distraction.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:06 am

LarsMac;1463640 wrote: Well, here is one for you.

Colorado just recently legalized Pot. There are a lot of rules around it, but it is no legal to possess pot in the state. Many communities made laws to prohibit the sale and public use. We have people coming to Colorado, now, to buy pot, and smoke it legally. Many folks around here are not liking the new rules. The problem though, is now they either have to smoke before they go home, or try to take it home with them. The TSA is looking for pot at the airport (It is still a federal crime) and several neighboring states seem to have troopers camping at the state line to try and catch drivers who might be "smuggling" pot into their state.

At least once a day, now, I catch a whiff of that unmistakable aroma somewhere about town. Often at traffic lights, and I notice an out-of-state car whose passengers appear very pleased with themselves.

I personally have no problem with people smoking pot, but it drives my wife to distraction.

I was a resident of New Mexico a couple of life-times ago when it was legal to possess the stipulated quantity to be considered “for personal use only. I've smoked. For me it's like closing your eyes and boarding an airplane without knowing the destination or how long it will be gone. It's OK if you have no responsibilities, otherwise it's bad news. Here in Sweden it is considered “addictive, "dangerous", and it's "illegal".

So what is your personal opinion on the new-found Colorado dope trade? Do you agree with TudeDog that “whatever attracts tourists, bringing their money is a good thing?

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:38 am

High Threshold;1463642 wrote: I was a resident of New Mexico a couple of life-times ago when it was legal to possess the stipulated quantity to be considered “for personal use only. I've smoked. For me it's like closing your eyes and boarding an airplane without knowing the destination or how long it will be gone. It's OK if you have no responsibilities, otherwise it's bad news. Here in Sweden it is considered “addictive, "dangerous", and it's "illegal".

So what is your personal opinion on the new-found Colorado dope trade? Do you agree with TudeDog that “whatever attracts tourists, bringing their money is a good thing?

Nope. I hate tourists.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:47 am

LarsMac;1463645 wrote: Nope. I hate tourists.

Who doesn't? It was only a rhetorical question anyway.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:54 am

LarsMac;1463640 wrote:

I personally have no problem with people smoking pot, but it drives my wife to distraction.

Pot drives your wife to distraction. Ark-ark-ark! You're killin' me!

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:21 am

Saint_;1463648 wrote: Pot drives your wife to distraction. Ark-ark-ark! You're killin' me!

:yh_rotfl

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:25 pm

When I moved to Kansas wasn't long till I discovered numerous hemp/marihuana/ditch weed plants in my yard.

The house and property were unoccupied for six years. I consulted a neighbor and he told me his yard is full of it and I would never get rid of it. Just don't appear to be cultivating or harvesting the stuff.

It took two years, but I did.

Got rid of it, so I thought,

Walking to my fishing hole couldn't help but notice the growth of:

I been told it isn't good for smoking.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:40 pm

Tax laws, especially when driven by not well though out political popular passions often don't bring in the promised results.

In Colorado, tax revenue from recreational pot lower than expected

Colorado's lower taxes on medicinal marijuana are hindering projected tax revenue from recreational pot sales, according to a recent study released by the state's Department of Revenue.

Prior to recreational sales becoming legal in January, voters last fall overwhelmingly passed a measure placing special excise and sales taxes on recreational marijuana. The fiscal analysis appended to the ballot measure predicted the state would rake in about $33 million in taxes in the first six months of 2014.

But according to the Department of Revenue study, the state brought in about $12 million in tax revenue from recreational pot sales through June.

The report, which a special legislative commission pored over Tuesday, found that most of the state's recreational marijuana sales were being derived from tourists traveling to the state. Moreover, it notes that recreational marijuana is not pulling users out of the medicinal marijuana market.

"Higher taxes on recreational pot than those on medical pot is a reason," said state Rep. Dan Pabon (D-Denver). "We might need to also look at exploring taxation on medicinal."

Pabon, who has sponsored and helped to pass legislation to regulate recreational marijuana sales, said Tuesday that estimating tax revenue from recreational marijuana was a "work in progress" and that "there are concerns about how we actually estimate possible tax revenue.

"If another lawmaker from a different state came to me and said, 'I want legal marijuana sales because of the tax revenue for my state,' I'd certainly make it known for them to take caution. It's not what people expected," Pabon said.

Most sales tax revenue brought in by recreational marijuana is set to go toward Colorado school construction projects.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:53 pm

tude dog;1463711 wrote: Tax laws, especially when driven by not well though out political popular passions often don't bring in the promised results.

In Colorado, tax revenue from recreational pot lower than expected

Colorado's lower taxes on medicinal marijuana are hindering projected tax revenue from recreational pot sales, according to a recent study released by the state's Department of Revenue.

Prior to recreational sales becoming legal in January, voters last fall overwhelmingly passed a measure placing special excise and sales taxes on recreational marijuana. The fiscal analysis appended to the ballot measure predicted the state would rake in about $33 million in taxes in the first six months of 2014.

But according to the Department of Revenue study, the state brought in about $12 million in tax revenue from recreational pot sales through June.

The report, which a special legislative commission pored over Tuesday, found that most of the state's recreational marijuana sales were being derived from tourists traveling to the state. Moreover, it notes that recreational marijuana is not pulling users out of the medicinal marijuana market.

"Higher taxes on recreational pot than those on medical pot is a reason," said state Rep. Dan Pabon (D-Denver). "We might need to also look at exploring taxation on medicinal."

Pabon, who has sponsored and helped to pass legislation to regulate recreational marijuana sales, said Tuesday that estimating tax revenue from recreational marijuana was a "work in progress" and that "there are concerns about how we actually estimate possible tax revenue.

"If another lawmaker from a different state came to me and said, 'I want legal marijuana sales because of the tax revenue for my state,' I'd certainly make it known for them to take caution. It's not what people expected," Pabon said.

Most sales tax revenue brought in by recreational marijuana is set to go toward Colorado school construction projects.

Yeah, they always promise that the schools will benefit from things like this. Lotto, Casinos, Race tracks, a new stadium, and now Pot.

The record. however, has shown that the projected revenues, after the costs of regulating the sources, fall short.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:02 pm

tude dog;1463709 wrote: When I moved to Kansas wasn't long till I discovered numerous hemp/marihuana/ditch weed plants in my yard.

The house and property were unoccupied for six years. I consulted a neighbor and he told me his yard is full of it and I would never get rid of it. Just don't appear to be cultivating or harvesting the stuff.

It took two years, but I did.

Walking to my fishing hole couldn't help but notice the growth of:

I been told it isn't good for smoking.

It's not surprising you'd find it growing by fishing holes. Hemp seed is commonly used as scatter bait by anglers.

As for being god for smoking - well yes, and no. It's only the Female that's good for smoking. For cultivation it's best to sort them out as seedlings & ditch the Males.

Incidentally, Cannabis is the leaves. Marijuana is the flower. The flowers look identical to Clover flowers.

They can also make very attractive house plants.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:56 pm

tude dog;1463709 wrote: When I moved to Kansas wasn't long till I discovered numerous hemp/marihuana/ditch weed plants in my yard.

The house and property were unoccupied for six years. I consulted a neighbor and he told me his yard is full of it and I would never get rid of it. Just don't appear to be cultivating or harvesting the stuff.

It took two years, but I did.

Got rid of it, so I thought,

Walking to my fishing hole couldn't help but notice the growth of:

I been told it isn't good for smoking.

Used to be a lot of hemp grown around the area for rope. One of my Sister-in-laws married a fellow from Phillipsburg whose family used to make a living growing Hemp until after WWII.

I hear that it is making a come-back as a cash crop in the US.