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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:24 pm
by AnneBoleyn
G#Gill;1474092 wrote: I did say that I would not post on this thread again, but I must have lied !

I also have to say that what I said in my 'threatening email' post was not true. I apologise for any upset I may have brought to anybody.


Very strange Gill.

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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:29 pm
by FourPart
High Threshold;1474093 wrote: Never mind. My best friends are ALL liars. :wah:
Now, you know that's not true.

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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:37 pm
by High Threshold
FourPart;1474095 wrote: Now, you know that's not true.


I am flattered. I had no idea at all! :)

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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:22 pm
by Bruv
I am confused..........it's happening a lot lately.

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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:16 pm
by AnneBoleyn
Bruv;1474112 wrote: I am confused..........it's happening a lot lately.


Aren't we all. Note that's a statement, not a question.

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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:12 pm
by High Threshold
Bruv;1474112 wrote: I am confused..........it's happening a lot lately.


....................... I had no idea he considered me a friend.

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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:46 am
by Bruv
High Threshold;1474147 wrote: ....................... I had no idea he considered me a friend.


Oh he does......

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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:05 pm
by FourPart
Bruv;1474163 wrote: Oh he does......
Or perhaps that should be fiend.

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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:28 pm
by High Threshold
FourPart;1474200 wrote: Or perhaps that should be fiend.


:yh_brokeh

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:12 am
by spot
AnneBoleyn;1474125 wrote: Aren't we all. Note that's a statement, not a question.


There's a punctuation mark in English to denote a rhetorical question which does not want an answer. It's "Aren't we all⸮".

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:33 am
by AnneBoleyn
spot;1474761 wrote: There's a punctuation mark in English to denote a rhetorical question which does not want an answer. It's "Aren't we all⸮".


I've never seen that before. Good idea. This backwards question mark is on all keyboards in U.K.? When we write it is so easy to miscommunicate. This is a big help.

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:53 am
by spot
AnneBoleyn;1474762 wrote: This backwards question mark is on all keyboards in U.K.?
There is on my keyboard, but I suspect I put it there myself.

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:55 am
by AnneBoleyn
Is my leg being pulled? As long as it's not my finger.

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:46 am
by FourPart
I don't know about anyone else, but to me that looks nothing like a reversed question mark - more like some sort of grid - like 2 x "2E"s, with the '2' being the digital type, made of 5 straight lines (thus 4 characters). Is it meant to be like the Spanish style "¿"?

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:13 pm
by Bryn Mawr
FourPart;1474773 wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but to me that looks nothing like a reversed question mark - more like some sort of grid - like 2 x "2E"s, with the '2' being the digital type, made of 5 straight lines (thus 4 characters). Is it meant to be like the Spanish style "¿?


I often use the Spanish query to delimit part of a sentence who's content I'm not certain is correct (as in "it was in ¿June? of 1985" when it could have been May or July) but I've never come across ⸮ - could be a useful convention.

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:17 pm
by Bruv
Bryn Mawr;1474786 wrote: ⸮ - could be a useful convention.


Oh please, don't encourage him.

Reed Red and such like.....now this ?

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:57 pm
by AnneBoleyn
Bruv;1474787 wrote: Oh please, don't encourage him.

Reed Red and such like.....now this ?


I think we should encourage spot in this endeavor. Might keep him out of trouble!

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:12 pm
by spot
FourPart;1474773 wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but to me that looks nothing like a reversed question mark - more like some sort of grid - like 2 x "2E"s, with the '2' being the digital type, made of 5 straight lines (thus 4 characters). Is it meant to be like the Spanish style "¿"?


My Browser setting for View / Character Encoding is Unicode. The site's default encoding ought to be UTF8 which is Unicode. Perhaps you have your browser set to override webpage preference to something other than Unicode, so the two eight-bit components are being displayed to you as four hexadecimal digits in that grid.

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:14 pm
by spot
Bruv;1474787 wrote: Oh please, don't encourage him.

Reed Red and such like.....now this ?


I've taken to leed/led as well recently.

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:47 pm
by Bruv
spot;1474794 wrote: I've taken to leed/led as well recently.


You have "Taken to" ?

Perhaps you can give us the etymology on that phrase.

Is it as in 'Taken to the cleaners'?

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:47 pm
by FourPart
spot;1474793 wrote: My Browser setting for View / Character Encoding is Unicode. The site's default encoding ought to be UTF8 which is Unicode. Perhaps you have your browser set to override webpage preference to something other than Unicode, so the two eight-bit components are being displayed to you as four hexadecimal digits in that grid.
Mine's Unicode as well (Firefox).

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:50 pm
by AnneBoleyn
Bruv;1474796 wrote: You have "Taken to" ?

Perhaps you can give us the etymology on that phrase.

Is it as in 'Taken to the cleaners'?


I think that means he likes it :-)

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:00 pm
by Bruv
AnneBoleyn;1474799 wrote: I think that means he likes it :-)


Ssshhhuush......I know what he thinks he means......but I can go with the flow......he is the one that pulls the almighty BBC up for their grammar and stuff....not me.

And.....I am flexing my word skills, how often does the chance come to throw etymology into a conversation...... not a lot where I come from anyway.

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:50 pm
by AnneBoleyn
etymology

Yes, Bruv, when I saw that I was quite impressed!

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:21 pm
by High Threshold
Bryn Mawr;1474786 wrote: ..... I've never come across ⸮ - could be a useful convention.


Could it be the arabic form of "?" .... I mean, right to left and all of that. :yh_whistl

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:56 pm
by FourPart
This is an enlarged screenshot of the character, as I see it.



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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:25 am
by High Threshold
FourPart;1474813 wrote: This is an enlarged screenshot of the character, as I see it.





That settles it! It's sublime, Nazi propaganda.

Or it could be Tramtarian, poetic literature: "Two E or not two E!"

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:26 am
by spot
Bruv;1474796 wrote: You have "Taken to" ?

Perhaps you can give us the etymology on that phrase.

Is it as in 'Taken to the cleaners'?
"Taken" comes into English through the Viking word for "touch": "The earliest known use of this verb in the Germanic languages was app. to express the physical action ‘to put the hand on’, ‘to touch’—the only known sense of Gothic têkan."

There were two competing words in medieval times which meant "take", the other was "nim". The OED quotes Walter de la Mare still using it in the thirties: "Twenty went to Botany Bay; ten of them on crutches, And the last of them nimmed the clouts that lay a-bleaching on the bushes!".

The OED entry for "taken to" is surprisingly extensive. However...5. To devote or apply oneself to; to adopt or take up as a practice, business, habit, or something habitual.

[...]

1834 E. Bulwer-Lytton Pilgrims of Rhine vi, He has since taken to drinking.

1843 Fraser's Mag. 28 203 She..took to wearing caps.

1845 R. Ford Hand-bk. Travellers in Spain I. ii. 199 In Madrid..the men have taken to..Parisian paletos.

1887 H. R. Tedder in Dict. National Biogr. IX. 330/2 With advancing years Caulfield took to drink.


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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:32 am
by Bruv
Susie Dent would be proud of you.