WW3 - New World Order - Pole Shift - Age of Peace (2006-2012)

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:13 pm

"Stand fast therefore in the LIBERTY wherewith Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again in the yoke of bondage." Galatians 5:1

People in America, will you not realistically prepare your hearts for the coming hour of the cup of testing, persecution and martyrdom that all of Christ's follwers in America may end up drinking of for prophecy to be fulfilled? And will you not also prepare yours hearts to RISE UP in FAITH AND VICTORY to OVERCOME THE ENEMY in this hour?

Your hidden persecutors are many, and they extend into the White House and the highest levels of our government and our military. Justice Department investigators have already defined you follwers of God as "resisters of the New World Order" and secretly condemned you to be arrested and put to death, your organizations and homes to be seized by FEMA and foreign troops and confiscated, and decreed persecution for all those who would offer resistance.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:15 pm

"TruthBringer", you claimed earlier to be a researcher. Here are your guidelines:

VALIDITY in QUALITATIVE RESEARCH

Source: R. Burke Johnson. (1998). Examining the Validity Structure of Qualitative Research.

Descriptive Validity: The factual accuracy of the account as reported by the qualitative researcher.

Interpretive Validity: The degree to which the participants' viewpoints, thoughts, intentions, and experiences are accurately understood and reported by the qualitative researcher.

Theoretical Validity: The degree to which a theory or theoretical explanation developed from a research study fits the data and is, therefore, credible and defensible.

Internal Validity: The degree to which a researcher is justified in concluding that an observed relationship is causal. More often, qualitative researchers are concerned with studying and understanding a process rather than identifying possible cause and effect relationships.

External Validity: External validity is important when the researcher wants to generalize from a set of research findings to other people, settings, and times. Typically, generalizability is not the major purpose of qualitative research.

Having failed all these tests, you can only come to us as a prophet and insist that we should believe purely on faith. So tell us why we should accept you as our saviour.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:17 pm

Pinky wrote: Well, I happen to agree with Spectral.

opinion?

Well then that makes two of us. I don't judge anyone but myself. Judging anyone but yourself is a sign of Lower Spirituality. It is one thing to judge the actions of a person, but it is another thing to attack their Spirit all-together. When you attack anyone's Spirit, you are attacking God along with it.

As far as my actions on this board are concerned, they speak for themselves. If I offended anyone on this board in the past, then I will receive the Karma for it. Same goes for everyone else on this board.

With that said, there is really only one thing that me and Spectra disagree with on this subject, and that is the fact that we are ALL living in a very dark reality at the moment, regardless of what Spectra said about how soon the good people will be going off to live the good life while the bad people go to walk the plank, basicly.

But right now, as I'm typing this, I'm living in the reality where kids are starving around the World, people are getting raped as we speak, Governments are corrupt, Satan/Lucifer is running loose, wars are being waged in the name of God, and ect. ect. This is MY and YOUR reality right now. So there is nothing wrong with exposing it.

As far as your other question is concerned, I'll do my best to add some thought to it in a second.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:23 pm

As far as the Millennia that existed before Jesus Pinky ...it might not hurt for you to look into studying the information on Atlantis and the other Lost Continents such as Lemuria.

Whether you believe in that stuff or not, it still might not hurt for you to look into it. You might find the answers you were looking for.

PS - I believe in Reincarnation. Not sure if alot of other people do on this board, but that might explain alot of our differences when we look at the same situations.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:24 pm

Pinky wrote: Yes, bad things are happening in the world. Mainly because people are choosing to live in a negative way...once the mindset changes, society changes.

All of it is man's doing, and man's responsibility.

Not the work of some devil.

I beg to differ. It is both. The Devil has geat Influence as well. He pulls you to make decisions in His direction. And you are right, sometimes you make them yourself.

Post by **spot** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:34 pm

TruthBringer wrote: The Devil has geat Influence as well. He pulls you to make decisions in His direction. And you are right, sometimes you make them yourself.You refer quite often to evil, TruthBringer. Do you regard some aspects of this world as irredeemable?

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:41 pm

About this pole shift thingy...I'd like to hear about the physics of this event. Not just what we are going to be transformed into or explaining that pole shift means the switching of the polar axis of the earth.

I want to know what is going to cause it, what will happen to the earth exactly and how a human being will survive it (assuming you expect the survivors to be human still).

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:00 pm

The church has this to say:

False Prophecy With A Price Tag

Do you remember the Prophesy Club's statements that there would be massive calamity when the clocks rolled over to the year 2000? They offered to sell you what you needed to survive. As you know by now, they were W-R-O-N-G. They removed all of their bold mistakes from their website and posted an explanation for the spiritual faux paux. http://www.prophecyclub.com. They close with "I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused." Does that statement make up for all the radio broadcasts and repeated warnings they gave the world in the name of God? God wouldn't accept that apology and neither should you. True prophets have nothing to apologize for. The Prophesy Club group has moved on to other bold "prophecies" and money making schemes. Most of them have to deal with the New World Order and the U.N. taking over America.

Maybe you should drop the Bible stuff and just go for starting your own religion?

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:06 pm

TruthBringer wrote: And to Koan...

I don't care how many places there is to get this information. I am posting it here in my own special way.

I could skip a rock across an ocean a thousand times, and I would get different results almost every time.

I have posted this thread many times, and it is my rock, and the internet is the ocean, and every time I post it I get a different outcome then before.

It certainly is "special".

You can certainly skip a few facts across the common knowledge base and I'm sure you'd get the same results every time. It's what you want to see.

Not much different in reaction from what I've seen.

As far as the "original" idea goes can you at least make up your own ism? I'm sure you don't want to insult the people you've stolen from.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:17 pm

How to be a "Prophet"

in eight easy steps

Rule Number 1: Make lots of predictions, and hope that some come true. If they do, point to them with pride. Ignore the others.

Rule Number 2: Be very vague and ambiguous. Definite statements can be wrong, but "possible" items can always be reinterpreted. Use modifiers like these wherever possible:

I feel that . . .

I see a picture of . . .

It might be that . . .

Perhaps . . .

Look for . . .

I'm getting . . .

Rule Number 3: Use a lot of symbolism. Be metaphorical, using images of animals, names, initials. They can be fitted to many situations by the believers.

Rule Number 4: Cover the situation both ways and select the winner as the "real" intent of your statement.

Rule Number 5: Credit God with your success, and blame yourself for any incorrect interpretations of His divine messages. This way, detractors have to fight God.

Rule Number 6: No matter how often you're wrong, plow ahead. The Believers won't notice your mistakes, and will continue to follow your every word.

Rule Number 7: Predict catastrophes; they are more easily remembered and more popular by far.

Rule Number 8: When predicting after the fact, but representing that the prophecy preceded the event, be wrong just enough to appear uncertain about the exact details; too good a prophecy is suspect.

Nostradamus (1503-1566) did it. So can you!

from The Mask of Nostradamus, by James Randi, Charles Scribner's Sons, New York, 1990

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:56 pm

lol. Koan...

Your personality creeps out more and more as you post.

Ummm....I have "stolen" nothing. I am not making money off of this information...nor am I trying to benefit in any way shape or form from sharing it with this board.

You my friend...are coming extremely close to being the one who is insulting. I don't know where we went wrong, or where you thought you were the authority on who gets to do what....but somewhere along the line there....you lost your marbles.

You have your own perception...I have mine...you say it's the same reaction every time. I say it's not. Who is right? Who is wrong? Neither. There is no such thing in the bigger picture. There is what you do, and there is what you don't do. And there is a consequence (good or bad) for everything that you do. There is no right or wrong though.

You make yourself out to be Mrs. High and Mighty. And you keep calling me a prophet. I already told you...the people who gave these prophecies were prophets. I am just a mouthpiece for their information. I'm just a child of God like you are. Which makes us both EQUAL. Equal as far as our Souls are concerned.

As far as the rest of the information is concerned, I am a mouthpiece for that as well. And who made me that mouthpiece? I made myself that mouthpiece. And there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. So why even try to argue over it?

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:01 pm

Shall we hold a vote as to who is creepier? That's the only way to get a clear picture.

It's called intellectual property, my friend. If you quote someone without direction to the source anywhere in this thread it is theft.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:02 pm

koan wrote: Shall we hold a vote as to who is creepier? That's the only way to get a clear picture.

It's called intellectual property, my friend. If you quote someone without direction to the source anywhere in this thread it is theft.

Who ever said anything about "creepier"?

Again...thats your perception. For your information....you don't scare me at all.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:08 pm

The concentration camps throughout America are many

(www.GulagAmerika.homestead.com), and the thousands of boxcars with shackles (see reports exposing them at www.AmericanHolocaust.50megs.com)are waiting to transport countless souls to these camps to be persecuted and terminated for their faith and resistance to Satan's agenda for this nation.

FEMA officials have already boasted openly to various Pastors that, when martial law is declared in America, they are going to seize their belief organizations (all quite "legally") and turn them into command posts for their bases of operation! The foreign troops (Russian, German, Chinese and others) trained to arrest you (even at many of our own military bases such as Fort Polk, LA) and transport you to these detention camps number well over 2,000,000.

German Bundeswehr/Luftwaffe (Army/Air Force) soldiers are present in America and Canada by the thousands and are stationed in over one hundred bases and facilities, and have boasted to me openly, both in Germany and America, that they are in America for the hour of martial law. They have admitted to me that they will NOT have a problem performing what they have been sent to do: arresting and firing upon American citizens!

And to add to this, AWACS from Germany are now present in America, to patrol our airspace in anticipation of widespread uprising under coming martial law. The military has admitted to us they will deploy chem-bio weapons to help weaken the resolve of the American Patriot to resist the UN/NATO New World Order takeover of our nation. My CIA insiders have admitted to me that many of these detention camps are also termination camps, and the Church in America is one of the major targets of removal and elimination under martial law.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:01 pm

It is not inconceivable that, in the future, you will see uncompromised followers of Christ arrested, transported to boxcars filled with shackles, to be transported to one of the many documented gassing/crematory facilities to be persecuted and slain for their unwavering confession of their faith and refusal to compromise their beliefs in God. It is also conceivable that you will witness them being dragged before the many modern guillotines imported from overseas for the mass public executions anticipated of those deemed "resisters of the New World Order."

And if you deem yourself to be a committed believer in Christ, Constitutionalist, Patriot, etc. it is truly possible to find yourself among them. There may soon be coming an hour in which the blood of the martyrs of Jesus Christ will flow in the streets and detention camps of America.

There may soon be coming a time in which the skies above designated detention/ termination camps will be blackened with the smoke of cremated bodies of those end-time saints who will refuse to bow the knee to Satan and his New World Order, who will remain faithful unto God and Jesus Christ even unto death. And that such smoke will arise as sweet incense into the nostrils of the Lord of Sabaoth, as a true testimony of those who gave their lives for God and the testimony of Jesus Christ and "loved not their lives even unto the death." And it is not inconceivable that you may be among them!

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:03 pm

It sounds unsafe to be in America right now. What is this homestead place you are refering to? The link is bankrupt.

What's over 2 000 000? The camps or the number of prisoners per camp? They must be running out of places to hide them.

Those FEMA reps should be fired. For lying or giving it all away. One or the other.

BTW don't call me creepy then insist it's me bringing it up.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:06 pm

When you think about it....is there no better way even to this day than to transport mass amounts of people from one place to another then the use of boxcars and trains? Pritty creepy.

The same tools the Nazis used back in the day are still the most efficient form of transport for mass amounts of people.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:11 pm

Sounds like it's unsafe to be a Christian. Wow, am I ever lucky.

Why are you getting all medieval on us? Guillotines? Surely there must be records of where and when such devices were imported. Which port?

TruthBringer wrote: There may soon be coming a time ... so now you're not sure?

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:15 pm

TruthBringer wrote: When you think about it....is there no better way even to this day than to transport mass amounts of people from one place to another then the use of boxcars and trains? Pritty creepy.

The same tools the Nazis used back in the day are still the most efficient form of transport for mass amounts of people.

"pritty creepy". Hmm. When you said I was sounding creepier all the time...was that a bad thing or does that mean I'm talking like you?

I hear boxcars make for good guitar players. Boxcar TruthBringer doesn't have a good ring though. You might want to come up with a new name for that phase.

Sure way to lose an audience is to bring up Nazis. You better brush up on your prophesy 101

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:56 pm

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BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:32 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: You made those links up, theyre invalid. If your wish is to take us for fools then do the job properly
KA-CHING!!!!!

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:52 pm

My apolagies on the links. They both used to work. The second one is a discussion board which moved but then was shut down. If it's links you guys want....then it's links I'll give you at the end of this section.

Matter of fact, I'll do even deeper research than I was going to before.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:55 pm

By the way I've heard reports about these prison camps at other places as well. Not just from those links I gave you.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:03 pm

Hear the testimony of Doc Marquis, former Illuminist, regarding this:

"As a former high level Illuminati planner for the New World Order, I was brought to the site of the future FEMA death camp in the Mojave. I knew exactly what it would be used for: the termination of resisters of our 'PLAN' to seize this nation under martial law for our New World Order. My reaction when I stood within it's deadly confines when a Satanist? Sheer joy! I rejoiced over the thought of Christs followers being terminated in this place."

(Testimony from Doc Marquis, former high level Illuminati, now a follower of Christ and director of Believers EXPOSING THE OCCULT.)

There may very well be coming a time throughout America for many believers in which there will be no other option BUT to confess Jesus Christ is Lord before men and to die for that testimony.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:11 pm

This should be cause for great concern and an awakening of the people of God in America!

An INFORMED people is an ALERTED PEOPLE and an ACTIVATED PEOPLE!

And now that our nation is indeed and irrevocably in the ominous beginning stages of martial law, how long will you hide behind denial and refuse to seek the Lord NOW for the grace to remain faithful throughout the testing that is to follow??? NOW is the time to prepare your hearts to seek the Lord. If you have been turning your back to the Creator, REPENT from your rebellion and get right with Him. You will not have the confidence in the Lord that you shall need to stand fast and to overcome, if your heart is not right with God.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:15 pm

REFUSE to allow fear to fill your heart, and choose instead to RESPOND WITH FAITH. God has NOT given us a spirit of fear, but of POWER, of LOVE, and a SOUND MIND...the MIND OF CHRIST, to be exact.

Be FILLED WITH THE [HOLY] SPIRIT.

Put on the WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD.

MEDITATE on God's love day and night.

PRAY when you feel the need to.

Be CONFIDENT that what Jesus has promised, that He shall also perform.

REALIZE that IN ALL THESE THINGS, we are MORE THAN

CONQUERORS through Him that loves us.

And, that nothing can separate us from the love of God and Christ our Lord.

Through Faith in Jesus Christ...

-YOU were redeemed to become CONQUERORS,...not those conquered.

-YOU were redeemed to become VICTORS...not the victims!

-YOU were redeemed to be OVERCOMERS...not those overcome.

"And this is the VICTORY that overcomes the world, EVEN OUR FAITH!" 1 John 5:4-b

"America, your days of liberty and freedom may be numbered. Make the most of your freedoms while you can. And determine in your heart now that you will continue to stand up for God and Liberty...even when a corrupt government declares our days of freedom are finished."

-Pam Schuffert

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:22 pm

Satanist hate crimes are rampant throughout our nation. Satanist infiltration into church organizations and ministries is widespread.

The Satanist/Illuminist subculture has successfully infiltrated America's schools, Universities, law enforcement, government, judicial and in fact penetrated every level of our society. They are networking furiously together to bring forth their New World Order/Luciferian based agenda. And they are destroying countless innocent lives in the process, and will destroy millions more in their bloody pursuit. Satanist recruitment into covens is at an all time high...recruiters even go out on Friday nights in college towns or cities and recruit kids on the streets, dressed fully in black robes!

And where is the Church??? God has commissioned His people unto whom he has entrusted power and authority to wage mighty Spiritual warfare against the works of the enemy. Even the Bible declares "Jesus Christ was manifested to DESTROY THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL." He did not commission the police...nor the local judge... nor the sheriff's department (they are all infiltrated by Satanists anyhow!) He has commissioned HIS PEOPLE to stand in the gap, to wage war against the enemy who is destroying countless lives across our nation continually.

Because God has not given us a spirit of FEAR, but of POWER, LOVE and a SOUND MIND, and has continually instructed us to FEAR NOT, we are to therefore march boldly forward with the power of God and CRUSH THE WORKS OF THE ENEMY.

People should be ashamed of the priests/pastors who have admitted that they are too afraid to deal with Satanism in their city...too afraid to stand up and do something about it.

It is time to make a difference...NOW!

Satan has already gotten away with murder unchallenged much too long...and wait 'til you see what they have in mind for YOU under coming martial law!!! Please...help make the difference.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:34 pm

Linktime eh?

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm - This one is pritty good....I'd say it's worth taking a look at.

http://www.detailshere.com/concentrationcamps2.htm ---- If you looked at that one then I guess you'll have to take a look at this one too.

http://www.detailshere.com/concentratio ... ations.htm --- This one is supposed to be a list of some of the concentration camps that are built around the country. Not sure if every one of them really is....but hey...I already believe this stuff is coming so...why the hell do I need to be convinced? =)~

http://www.detailshere.com/concentrationcamps01.htm --- Supposably an X-CIA members take on the coming concentration camps.

http://www.infowars.com/cc_archive.htm --- Here's some pritty interesting info.

Hope you find them interesting AT LEAST. Never throw away valuable information even if you disagree with it. This stuff could all prove to be true, or most of it anyways, and at least you'll have it as a backup in case you need it.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:39 pm

Let me get this right. You are recruiting Christians by telling them that the controllers of the world are determined to kill all Christians brutally and horribly? Does that seem like a good technique to you? Really?

Here's a review of an early book by Mr. Marquis (clever name)

Editorial Reviews

Amazon.com

The Illuminati's Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is often confused with its similarly named cousin, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, a fraudulent tract that supposedly details a global Zionist conspiracy and that has been used by anti-Semites to justify the murder and persecution of Jews.

The Illuminati's Protocols, however, is a different animal. According to author Doc Marquis, a secret association called the Illuminati actually plots to take over the world, but "encoded" their plan to falsely implicate the Jews. To decode the plan, he says, simply change Jew, Jewry, Jewish to Illuminist, Illuminati, Illuminism; Goyim to chattel, and Zion to Sion. The Illuminati's Protocols includes a "decodified" version of the original text, selections from The Protocols, and further information to help readers spot the Illuminati. There's even an appendix that analyses what Marquis calls "The two seals of our doom"--the Great Seals of the United States. (Hint: when carefully combined, the words "Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Seclorum" and the year MDCCLXXVI contain the letters M-A-S-O-N.)

Of course, all this fails to note that the text contains nothing of the sort. In 1921, Philip Graves of the London Times revealed The Protocols to be a fraud, showing it to be based on a French satire aimed at Napoleon III. In a series of side-by-side extracts printed in the Times, Graves demonstrated that the forgers took long portions of the original text, titled Dialogues in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, and simply replaced "France" with "Zion" and "The Emperor" with "We the Jews." (Marquis takes the additional step to "Sion" and "We the Illuminati".) Further investigations by the Russian historian Vladimir Burtsev revealed other sources for The Protocols, including a fantasy novel by Hermann Goedsche and, more darkly, the hand of the Russian secret police.

Fortunately, The Illuminati's Protocols are less dangerous than the anti-Semitic Protocols. The credulous, however, will continue to believe what they want to believe, and look for signs of conspiracy everywhere. --M. Stein

The current book is not available and though the review for it reads well, it shows incredibly poor writing style for a professional book review

"Doc Marquis gives such first-hand, "first-person" detail in this "big" book in excess of 200 pages, complete with diagrams, illustrations and full details."

"the Illuminati, the New World Order, Masonry (Freemasonry) and much, much more..."

"The New World Order can be established only through the "exceeding sinfulness of sin"; in other words, only through the most horrific of sin can this global order of Antichrist be established; Doesn't that sound like 20th Century history, and today's society?"

Who talks like that? Oh. You.

(reviews can be found on Amazon under the author's name and books)

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:41 pm

I don't know about you guys, but I have one memory that stands out relating to Hurricane Katrina much more than the others. And thats the memory of the way our Government and Fema handled the situation.

Soldiers blocking off paths to other cities, where people could get food, water, and shelter.

Ladies in wheelchairs dying, reports of girls getting raped, I ACTUALLY SAW VIDEO FOOTAGE OF PEOPLE ROBBING STORES WHILE THE POLICE SAT BY AND WATCHED! AND THIS WAS ON THE NEWS.

We're supposed to have one of the most technologically advanced militaries and equipment in the World! We have boats, fighter planes, jumbo jets, helicopters up the yang, you name it!

And for almost a week after Hurricane Katrina....our Government, and Fema along with it, sat back and wathed as people died. As people murdered. As people starved. Like it was a big game for them.

That was on a minor scale people. Imagine whats going to happen when they take advantage of a major attack on our Homeland. They will announce "Martial Law", and it's going to make Hurricane Katrina look like another day at the Circus.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:42 pm

I just can't take it anymore....TB: Pretty is NOT spelled with an I. P-R-E-T-T-Y.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:55 pm

*Thank you* BR. I've been biting my tongue over that for some time. I even looked it up to see if it was a *special code*

Now. See what links can do? From the declassified documents that show plans for these "concentration camps" the following defines who will be contained in it.

e. Participants. Only inmates classified as minimum level security will participate in the Civilian Inmate Labor

Program. Minimum level security inmates do not need constant guard. Corrections facilities will be responsible for

ensuring that only minimum level security inmates participate in the inmate labor program and for selecting inmate

participants.

(1) Memoranda of agreement with the corrections facility will state that the installation commander will direct the

removal of any inmate deemed undesirable or detrimental in any way to the mission, soldiers, family members, or

civilian employees of the installation.

(2) Under no circumstances will the following types of inmates be permitted in the Civilian Inmate Labor Program:

(a) A person in whom there is a significant public interest as determined by the corrections facility superintendent in

coordination with the installation commander.

(b) A person who has been a significant management problem in their current corrections facility or in another

facility.

(c) A principal organized crime figure.

(d) An inmate convicted of a sex offense or whose criminal history includes such conduct.

(e) An inmate convicted of a violent crime or whose criminal history includes such conduct.

(f) An inmate convicted of the sale or intent to distribute illegal drugs who held a leadership position in any drug

conspiracy, or has been involved with drugs within the last 3 years while in prison.

(g) An escape risk.

(h) An inmate who poses a threat to the general public as determined by the corrections facility superintendent in

coordination with the installation commander.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:18 pm

So what it looks like to me Koan....is that that article is referring to a "Civilian Inmate Labor Program" that is probably going to be implemented for the concentration camp members (the slaves).

Civilian Labor Inmate Program?

WTF people.....

They are going to work us while we're in there!!! And of course...should that be such a shocker? I mean really...Slavery is their ultimate agenda.

Keep the good citizens as the obiedient workers, and cut out all the other ones that Koan posted in the article above. Makes sense to me how they would view that situation. Make sure your "Laborers" are not Resisters (Fighters) or Disrupters.

Looks to me like they already have it all "worked out".

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:21 pm

You're showing your ignorance, TruthBringer. It's an odd choice of words but "civilian" does not mean innocent citizens. They define who they mean in the quoted text.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:26 pm

koan wrote: You're showing your ignorance, TruthBringer. It's an odd choice of words but "civilian" does not mean innocent citizens. They define who they mean in the quoted text.

Not sure how you view it that way.

I view it the way I posted. Perhaps I missed something? But I doubt it. Which one sounds more plausible? I know you would say yours does...but not to me.

You have proved nothing other than that there are plans to have a "Civilian Labor Program".

Thats all you proved.

If you stick by that article anyways...then you are only helping my cause by proving that the camps are REAL in the first place.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:28 pm

Let me try to explain "research" to you. You go to the actual source. Then you read it. You read it all. Then you double check your understanding before running around trying to stir up mass hysteria.

Document in question.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:30 pm

koan wrote: Let me try to explain "research" to you. You go to the actual source. Then you read it. You read it all. Then you double check your understanding before running around trying to stir up mass hysteria.

Document in question.

Koan...all you need to do is look at this one sentence in the article you posted...

Minimum level security inmates do not need constant guard.

Minimum level security inmates? Sounds like the more "obiedient ones". Then it says that they won't need "constant guard". And that makes sense to me too. Why would they? They would be going about their business like they're supposed to.

Your post is related to a "Civilian Inmate Labor Program" that deals with the concentration camps subject that we are currently talking about. Does it not? And if it doesn't...then why the hell did you post it. lol? Seriously.....

Looks to me like thats what it is though.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:38 pm

If the information indicated you are right then I would be agreeing with you. If you find something valid and factual...I'm all with you. Unfortunately, your ability to understand English and transform it to suit your purposes is doing damage to your case.

edit to clarify: ability to understand English meaning lack thereof.

Post by **spot** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:43 pm

TruthBringer wrote: You have proved nothing other than that there are plans to have a "Civilian Labor Program". The trick is never to leave out bits that you simply don't like.

What you're missing is the definition:

Civilian inmates

Prisoners incarcerated in a Federal, State, or local government penal facility. Prisoners of a military confinement facility are not civilian inmates.

The "Prisoners of a military confinement facility are not civilian inmates" explains why the word "civilian" is used of the inmates being discussed in the report.

Obviously, if being a Christian becomes a Federal offence, then being a Christian could be a reason for numbering among the Civilian inmates. You'd need it to become a Federal offence subect to imprisonment before the report would cover them. Currently, and much to my dismay, it's still legal to witness to the Risen Jesus.

Am I helping?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:43 pm

koan wrote: If the information indicated you are right then I would be agreeing with you. If you find something valid and factual...I'm all with you. Unfortunately, your ability to understand English and transform it to suit your purposes is doing damage to your case.

edit to clarify: ability to understand English meaning lack thereof.

Can't we all just get along though? Or is that too much to ask?

Tell you what...I'll put forth the effort if you put forth the effort. 50/50. There is no other way.

Post by **spot** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:45 pm

TruthBringer wrote: Can't we all just get along though? Or is that too much to ask?

Tell you what...I'll put forth the effort if you put forth the effort. 50/50. There is no other way.We're getting along a lot better than when you were ignoring us, believe me.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:51 pm

I am putting forth the effort to help you with your knowledge base. I get dumped on when you don't like the results. Now you have a link and can go read the entire document thoroughly at your leisure. If you insist on altering the context and the meaning of words to suit your purpose I make the effort to keep you on track. The hostility comes from your refusal to look at facts and discuss them rationally. If you make that effort you will see that I am not really attacking you. I am trying to get the facts straight.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:07 pm

With your gesture, I've been inspired to go out on a limb here.

Why don't you invest your time finding out what secrets the societies are founded on. There is information on that, you know. You don't have to be a member to find out. My distaste for the Masons and their ilk is that they use the information to inflate their egos. Their secret is that they have ancient teachings from the Egyptian times from their sage Thoth. Otherwise known as Hermes Trismegistus. The secret does not involve satanism though it comes from pagan origins. Their rituals contain symbols that only the upper levels fully understand, though it is rumoured that even they have lost touch with the meaning. It can bring them power because it reveals the nature of the Universe (as the Egyptians knew it).

It's worth your time to investigate since all major religions have the same source.

By pursuing them the way you do and jumping to conclusions you have walked into their only trap: Making yourself feel inferior to them.

Fortunately for you the information is otherwise available so you need not feel that way anymore.

Spectralcloud · Post by **Spectralcloud** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:30 pm

TruthBringer

May I refer you to page 61?

As These Questions were not Answered

However,

RE: The Confinement Camps and Trains

Scenario: Dirty Bomb (Be it Mossad, Illuminati, The Cabal. Ad Nauseum)

The Trains are Two Tiered for taking Rioters and Looters and Curfew Breakers

Again, ad nauseum, to places where they can be watched and worked to

Keep them out of the Ordinary Citzens Hair (Those who still have some), so to Speak.

Scenario: The Sun Burps

The Internment camps are going to be needed to contain the Violent and Confused

When There is no Electricity Anywhere , or Computer,

Or Phone system, No ATM etc. (Not to mention The modern Car)

Because The Satellites are too busy causing a 'Spread Destruct E/Affect';

Let me Assure You The Fireworks will be fantastic, while the World Wide Web has a melt down...

Don't really think Religion will matter at this Stage,

Though it has been given to Pastors, et al. By FEMA

To contain Their Flocks, so that none are brought to Harm in the Mayhem...

Just some room, not a cell, for ponderance...

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:08 pm

Interesting post Spectra. To say the least.

I do believe we are in for quite a ride with these. Just the simple fact that I don't ever see any anchor on the news talking about the possibility of "American concentration camps".....worries me a bit.

But then I remember that...the mainstream media is a controlled center in the first place. So it doesn't surprise me at all.