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Was Nostradamus wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:24 pm
by nvalleyvee
Did Nostradamus Predict the Tragedy?



'Two metal birds would crash into two tall statues'

An interesting variant of the same faux prophecy showed up in the soc.culture.palestine newsgroup on September 12 under the heading "They followed his prediction":

In the City of God there will be a great thunder,

Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb'

'The third big war will begin when the big city is burning'

- Nostradamus 1654

...on the 11 day of the 9 month that...two metal birds would crash into two tall statues...in the new city..and the world will end soon after"

"From the book of Nostradamus"

I think this man was a true seer.

In the year of the new century and nine months,

From the sky will come a great King of Terror...

The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.

Fire approaches the great new city...

In the city of york there will be a great collapse,

2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos

while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb

third big war will begin when the big city is burning



Geez there are many more quotes.

Was Nostradamus wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:58 pm
by CARLA
Since he wrote this in 1654.. how soon after the two bird crashing into a building will the world end??? who knows what his time frame actually is. But it is spooky that his predictions are so right on..:-2

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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:02 pm
by lady cop
this could interest you.......Nostradamus ( 1 2 ) Bez

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Was Nostradamus wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:16 pm
by nvalleyvee
lady cop wrote: this could interest you.......Nostradamus ( 1 2 ) Bez

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Sorry - I wasn't around and I didn't look at old threads.

Was Nostradamus wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:21 pm
by lady cop
please don't apologize! i am just trying to give you some opinions since you are interested :)

Was Nostradamus wrong?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:32 am
by Galbally
Nostradamus....oh man this is one of my pet hates. None of those passages you have quoted actually exist, people just reinvented the French language to fit in with events as usual. None of his prophecies stand up to close scrutiny, or are so vague as to be meaningless. The only date ever explicitly used in his quatrains was of course 1999, which as I have said before was one of Prince's best songs, so I will give him that one.



In the year of the new century and nine months,

From the sky will come a great King of Terror...

The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.

Fire approaches the great new city...

This one is a real quatrain though, except for the first line, and the 45 degrees thing, etc etc.

Was Nostradamus wrong?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:36 am
by DesignerGal
Maybe Al Queada read some books on Nostradamus and just did what he said.:thinking:

Was Nostradamus wrong?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:11 am
by Bronwen
nvalleyvee wrote: 1. Did Nostradamus Predict the Tragedy?



2. 'Two metal birds would crash into two tall statues'

An interesting variant of the same faux prophecy showed up in the soc.culture.palestine newsgroup on September 12 under the heading "They followed his prediction":

In the City of God there will be a great thunder,

Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb'

'The third big war will begin when the big city is burning'

- Nostradamus 1654

...on the 11 day of the 9 month that...two metal birds would crash into two tall statues...in the new city..and the world will end soon after"

3. "From the book of Nostradamus"

4. I think this man was a true seer.

In the year of the new century and nine months,

From the sky will come a great King of Terror...

The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.

Fire approaches the great new city...

In the city of york there will be a great collapse,

2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos

while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb

third big war will begin when the big city is burning



5. Geez there are many more quotes.1. No.

2. There are no such passages anywhere in his writings.

3. There is no such book by him with that title. Of course, anyone can write a book with their own 'predictions' and give it that title, but the title of his book of quatrains is, I believe, 'Centuries'. It should be available at most libraries, or in book stores, with all the quatrains in the original French and a RELIABLE English translation. Beware of books that have a biased agenda (usually easily discernable from the commentary), as these will invariably mis-translate in order to support their conclusions.

4. I would agree with you if he had actually made such predicitons. Of the ones that he did make, about two or three percent contain material that might, with considerable stretching, coincide with some event that actually took place at a later date. That is about what one might expect from pure chance.

5. Indeed. I don't know where you are finding them, though. There are scores of books on the subject, most of them completely bogus.

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:26 am
by lady cop
SnoozeControl wrote: You're kind of spooky:-3it's 'cause i'm a scorpio ;)

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:45 am
by minks
I always thought old Naus was translated to suit todays "Issues" Just seems odd a man can predict iron birds hitting a building yet not have a clue on the invention of an airplane back then, or heck a highrise for that matter. Always seemed kinda Hokie to me.

Signed forever doubting thomasinah

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:06 pm
by cars
DesignerGal wrote: Maybe Al Queada read some books on Nostradamus and just did what he said.:thinking:


Heyyyyyyyy, that's excatlly what I was going to say! See great minds think alike!:)

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:25 pm
by Bronwen
nvalleyvee wrote: In the year of the new century and nine months,

From the sky will come a great King of Terror...

The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.

Fire approaches the great new city...

In the city of york there will be a great collapse,

2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos

while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb

third big war will begin when the big city is burning Vee, here is the actual translation of the first quatrain. I'll print the original French if you wish. It's number X.72, that is, the 72nd quatrain of century number ten:



The year 1999 seven months

From the sky will come a great King of terror

To bring back life to the great King of the Angolmois,

Before and after Mars reigns by good luck.

As you can see, the second line is right on. The first, third and fourth aren't even close. The year referred to is clearly 1999, and it is referred to by number (L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois), not with regard to its place in a century.

Also, you'll notice that the month referred to is the seventh, not the ninth.

I haven't found the second part, about the city of York. Maybe someone else can locate it and give an authoritative translation.

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:20 pm
by Galbally
The year 1999 seven months

From the sky will come a great King of terror

To bring back life to the great King of the Angolmois,

Before and after Mars reigns by good luck.

Actually if you translate this quatrain into the original klingon version, print it out, scrunch up the paper, bury it, dig it up again, hand it to a complete stranger on a bus, and then write a new version it goes like this.

And the year designated by the purple one wil be 1999

People will be emplored to get busy

The groove will be righteous

and everybody's gonna party like its.............

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:54 am
by TenneseeGirl
I watched this special on the history channel about the quatrains of nostradomus. The one about 9/11 was an internet hoax. Brought to you by some freakin punk who thought it would be funny.

If nostradomous was such a seer then why cant we go through his quatrains and figure this stuff out before the desaster happens? well because its really alot easier in hindsight to make a cryptic message written by some dead guy apply. I think the man had a gife. But i think he was also disturbed. You have to take it with a grain of salt.

Was Nostradamus wrong?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:09 am
by Bronwen
TenneseeGirl wrote: I think the man had a gife. What, may I ask, is a gife?

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:13 am
by TenneseeGirl
Bronwen wrote: What, may I ask, is a gife?
gift*