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Did you ever think that the schools questioning of the way you raised your children was wrong? I got called 2 times in elementary school and I asked for a third conference, I raised my daughter to be a liberal thinker and probably because she was a lonely only she got more info than she should have. I got called by the gifted teachers saying she had the vocabulary of a 9th grader at 2nd grade. Well DUH - I never talked down to her. I got called in at 3rd grade - yes I took T-Girl with me. I asked her teacher to ask T-Girl the meaning of all the BIG words she had said. T-Girl passed and I told the teacher she should talk to her students in a little more depth before calling parents into a conference.

SnoozeControl wrote: I don't get it. The teachers were concerned because your child was more advanced than her peers? How stupid is that?:mad:


I didn't get it either......................:-5

According to the reports in this country, super advancement isn't appreciated in this country either. Every one has to conform nowadays. There is no such thing as being the best of the class. the word 'failure' is no longer acknowledged as a valid term. While the papers have been on about this, no one has bothered to look at the other end of the scale where it is inappropriate to be a success either.

I a sorry to say that this is the result of a political rampage, and I use the word 'rampage' with reason because the whole thing is designed to creat a 'norm'.

God forbid, but this seems to be the way we are headed now as nations.

OpenMind wrote: According to the reports in this country, super advancement isn't appreciated in this country either. Every one has to conform nowadays. There is no such thing as being the best of the class. the word 'failure' is no longer acknowledged as a valid term. While the papers have been on about this, no one has bothered to look at the other end of the scale where it is inappropriate to be a success either.

I a sorry to say that this is the result of a political rampage, and I use the word 'rampage' with reason because the whole thing is designed to creat a 'norm'.

God forbid, but this seems to be the way we are headed now as nations.


I am sure all this would depress the likes of Bill Gates. Go over achievers go!

minks wrote: I am sure all this would depress the likes of Bill Gates. Go over achievers go!


Now Bill Gates. And others like him. I have a book that has at its core a very interesting story that it claims to be true. I am not in a position to confirm this, but it may be that Bill Gates is of a class of children that were more privileged than even the wealthy were aware of.

I would say that the authors of Google were in the same class. There have been a couple of other individuals who have also shown the same class.

OpenMind wrote: Now Bill Gates. And others like him. I have a book that has at its core a very interesting story that it claims to be true. I am not in a position to confirm this, but it may be that Bill Gates is of a class of children that were more privileged than even the wealthy were aware of.

I would say that the authors of Google were in the same class. There have been a couple of other individuals who have also shown the same class.
creater of apple as well I believe. Pity wealth buys higher education but I guess there will be no getting away from that concept any time soon.

minks wrote: creater of apple as well I believe. Pity wealth buys higher education but I guess there will be no getting away from that concept any time soon.


I would like to relate the story but it's a very long story. The story is allegedly based on truth but no names were given to protect the individuals. I have been trying to guess ever since.

Truth is, while the characters may seem to be nothing more than money grabbing individuals, they are in fact ordinary kids just realising their potential and with a lot of heart. Bill Gates gets a lot of flack from the press, but his efforts fit the bill (if you'll ignore the unintended pun). There's a hell of a lot more in his Windows than there needs to be to keep up with the competition. He's also taken a lot of legal flack which this story predicted.

One of the group should be working on politics. This guy has the most difficult task. I am not sure which country he is based in, but it is most in likely the USA. Keep an eye out for a very powerful individual. It may even be a female.

OpenMind wrote: I would like to relate the story but it's a very long story. The story is allegedly based on truth but no names were given to protect the individuals. I have been trying to guess ever since.

Truth is, while the characters may seem to be nothing more than money grabbing individuals, they are in fact ordinary kids just realising their potential and with a lot of heart. Bill Gates gets a lot of flack from the press, but his efforts fit the bill (if you'll ignore the unintended pun). There's a hell of a lot more in his Windows than there needs to be to keep up with the competition. He's also taken a lot of legal flack which this story predicted.

One of the group should be working on politics. This guy has the most difficult task. I am not sure which country he is based in, but it is most in likely the USA. Keep an eye out for a very powerful individual. It may even be a female.


Oh I don't fault good brains, it just makes me sad that if given the money the child is exposed to way more educational opportunities than those who have not. Sad.

minks wrote: Oh I don't fault good brains, it just makes me sad that if given the money the child is exposed to way more educational opportunities than those who have not. Sad.


The story goes that these kids were exposed to a particularly good teacher. Money didn't come into it. But the teacher was eventually struck off for not keeping to the curriculum. She chose to teach from her heart.

The children were not from particularly wealthy backgrounds and this presented a problem to the teacher at the outset.

Homeschool.



If you can't homeschool, or even if you can, I suggest getting a group of like-minded parents to homeschool as a group. Maybe get a local church involved to provide the space. For chrissakes, don't try to make it a private school with gov't funding, because that would make you beholding to gov't mandates. Keep it privately funded and teach what you want, how you want, and celebrate excellence as it should be celebrated!

They do that at my church, homeschool parents and students meet once or twice a week to do the learning process together, go on field trips and excursion.

For us working mothers, and when my kids were young I was single and working 2 jobs, homeschooling was not an option. I couldn't be home with them. My kids had no problems with the public schools systems at all.

Accountable wrote: Homeschool.


Don't homeschool. You have no idea of the time and effort, and you aren't qualified in all the curriculums to the degree needed. There's a reason why it takes 4 years to become a teacher and a reason why they are certified.

Jives, how do you think the differences in intelligence should be handled? I readily admit my ignorance to the system in general; I'm not a parent.

SnoozeControl wrote: What's the title of the book?


The book is called "The Book". A poor title and for the most part, the book is a waste of time. It is published by Neo-Tech Books. Apart from that one story that is claimed to be true, the rest of the book is not worth reading. I have tried, and it is only for devout neo-tech people.

I have no way of finding proof of the story's validity without actually contacting the aforesaid people. Therefore, I simply look for clues in society.

Accountable wrote: Jives, how do you think the differences in intelligence should be handled? I readily admit my ignorance to the system in general; I'm not a parent.


The differences in intelligence in a single public classroom? (For example, in my classes I have students at an Algebra level and others at a 3rd grade level.) Or differences in intelligence between two siblings both being homeschooled?

Jives wrote: The differences in intelligence in a single public classroom? (For example, in my classes I have students at an Algebra level and others at a 3rd grade level.) Or differences in intelligence between two siblings both being homeschooled?Classroom, I guess. We used to have accelerated classes & such. Ya'll don't do that anymore?

Accountable wrote: Classroom, I guess. We used to have accelerated classes & such. Ya'll don't do that anymore?


There are classes for "gifted" children that test with +150 I.Q.s. These kids are traditionally from richer families, since SES implies access to computers, magazines, and newspapers as well as a connection to educated parents and a good attitude towards education in general.

There are also classes in which the students are identified as "Special Education" In the old days, this was reserved exclusively for students with autism and severe mental retardation. Now, though, typically a class has a very diverse population.

The best tactic I have found in these classes is to begin with the basics and work up to a very high level gradually throughout the entire class. Work the entire spectrum.

The low stuff is to bring along the low-skilled students, the high stuff will challenge even the best of them, and it benefits both parties. The high skilled kids get a mini-review, and the low-skilled kids get to see where they are heading!