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Got something you need to get off your chest, here's the place. No randomness needs to be a serious concern or thought of yours please.





ahem and Snooze removing from the chest does not mean shirts or bras.



Here's mine.



Why would someone travel a great distance to race thier car in a quarter mile to risk losing it, if they should lose the race.

The memories of my family outings are still a source of strength to me. I remember we'd all pile into the car - I forget what kind it was - and drive and drive. I'm not sure where we'd go, but I think there were some trees there. The smell of something was strong in the air as we played whatever sport we played. I remember a bigger, older guy we called "Dad." We'd eat some stuff, or not, and then I think we went home. I guess some things never leave you.

Blah blah blah.

For real?? your not have chest discomfort are you?? I'm being serious here..!!

[QUOTE]My sternum hurts.[/QUOTE]

Ouch Snooze, I bet that hurt.

Yike that must hurt..!! Painkiller is in order..

By the time I have survived 3 straight nights of karaoke at my bar, I am truly homicidal. One night down, 2 to go. Someone come hide my guns for a day or 3.

BabyRider wrote: By the time I have survived 3 straight nights of karaoke at my bar, I am truly homicidal. One night down, 2 to go. Someone come hide my guns for a day or 3.
LMAO! When my husband deejays, he calls it karachokee. I see certain singers walking over for the mic and call it comeandchokeme.

I am looking for a "drop kick" icon and it is getting to me that I can't find one. Thanks for listening to me Peace Out. (oh I feel so much better now)

SnoozeControl wrote: Spending an hour feeling like that is not what I consider fun.:rolleyes:
Try spening six hours like that, three nights in a row. I swear, they could use it as punishment instead of say, community service.

"You are hereby sentenced to spend 12 hours listening to the most god-awful singers murdering your favorite songs."

Im dreading going into work this morning. This is a first for me . 15 years of loving what I did for a living everyday.... Now a new job that I loathe. Terrible feeling, and there isnt anything to be done about it.

weeder wrote: Im dreading going into work this morning. This is a first for me . 15 years of loving what I did for a living everyday.... Now a new job that I loathe. Terrible feeling, and there isnt anything to be done about it.
Oh, Weeder...I know so well what it's like to truly loathe your job. There's no other feeling quite like it. I heartily feel for you. What's with the new job that sucks so bad? Come on, dump it out, you'll feel better. :-4

You wouldnt believe it. It could only happen in my life. I sell the flower shop, and take a job back here MANAGING a retail nursery. I think " This is great, I finally get to use 30 years of experience, selling what I love, in a sort of respected capacity. I think Ill wear cute little overalls and a hat, blah blah blah. Well it seems that we are one of the last greenhouse operations who heat with coal. Its very economical.Guess whos responsibility it is to maintain the furnace? MINE!!

I am black every single day when I come home. If it wasnt so funny, it would be pathetic. My family and friends feel so sorry for me. Secondly, there is a woman on the job(shes been there for 9 years) I thought we were friends, She was very supportive when I applied for the position. She was happy for me when I got hired...... now shes mean.. every single day. I am totally confused by this. I came home to Virginia looking forward to finally being free of the stresses of being a small business owner. Now Ive got this horror. Normally my action would be to change the situation. But this is a good paying job for this area. There arent many like it here. I am also pretty much financially ruined by my business fiasco in Georgia. So I cannott handle five minutes unemployed. After working 7 days a week down there for two years.... Ill wind up living in a card board box, if I loose this position. Nice mess huh?? I really cringe when people say... " God only gives you what you can handle" At this point I should be ranting and raving like a lunitic. Or finally running around screaming " This isnt fair!" But it is fair. I make the choices... I make the decisions.. I have to live with the consequences. So Ill just go now, and put on the mechanics overalls that I bought at a local dry cleaners here...... that say "Steve" on the pocket" and force myself to show up by 8:30 for another day of brimstone,fire,coal, and emmotional abuse by a menopausal psychotic lunatic. I ask you... Where do the geraniums fit in? And do you think that some good looking man interested in gardening, is going to come in

see me(Steve) in my overalls.. with black stuff all over my nostrils, lips and hands...fall madly in love with me... sweep me off my feet... and save me from yet another disastorous situation.. chosen by Weeder.... woman on the move..bumbling idiot... who made yet another wrong choice? There now... Happy? do i feel better? I do, if I can know your laughing....... Love, Weeder

And you know what? Even telling that story about a job you hate, you were able to bring humor to it. A rare and enviable talent.

I'm truly sorry things suck for you so bad, and I wish I had the words to make it "all better." But there is one thing: I firmly believe that things happen for a reason. You may not figure what that reason is for some time, but there IS a reason you are where you are right now. And if you can be assured of some purpose, it can't be all that horrendous.

I wish you joy, even if you only find it outside of work, and I hope that you figure the purpose for this change in your life. Good things happen to good people. And you're one of the best. :-6 :-4

Another surprise... Good management means delegating responsibility.. right? Well in the winter ( slow time at nursery) there are only 2 others. They are paid hourly and they know I get paid very well. Well, well compared to them. In the spring I will get 2 more part timers. This is my plan.. this season if I can show that I keep the numbers up.. or better yet, increase sales.. I will have some clout. Right now I am having to prove myself. Then I will say " Youve got to give me an employee that can handle this furnace business. You have to be able to drive a tractor to maintain the furnace( filling the hopper with coal) so rarely does anyone apply for a position in a nursery who can do that) they think its selling plants. Also, if the temperature ever drops at night.. an alarm system calls the managers house, to go down there and see what is wrong. This is my fault for not finding out about this before I took the job. But then, in my defense.. the owners didnt share this info with me. They simply asked " can you drive a tractor? I thought it was for loading mulch, top soil etc.... on peoples pick up trucks. Manager in this case really means.... person who is worked to death.. running every aspect of this business. The place does very very well. Ive learned a lot here. In order to make money.. you must get the work of 2 people out of one, and keep your payroll low. I on the other hand paid my help very well ( they deserved it) and couldnt make it in Georgia. All altruistic thinking has to go out the window.. if you want to make money in small business. We fair minded thinkers... fighters for the under dog need not play in that arena... its is a formula for failure.

Yeh, I know we're supposed to whine here, but it's not my way.



I'm posting to admire Weeder. I love your general philosophy, lady! I want to bottle vials of your essence and require anybody applying for welfare to take a large dose. You are what makes America great. :-6

Accountable wrote: Yeh, I know we're supposed to whine here, but it's not my way.



I'm posting to admire Weeder. I love your general philosophy, lady! I want to bottle vials of your essence and require anybody applying for welfare to take a large dose. You are what makes America great. :-6


I didn't say you all you could do was whine here. :p

Thanks Acc though for your postive thoughts to Weeder.

Weeder I admire the fact that you can have humour about a job you are despising right now. Springs around the corner and soon the fun part of selling the plants will come into play. I'm postive that your knowledge about plants will help many customers have beautiful flower beds and gardens this year. :-6

I know just how you feel Weeder, my wife took a position as an Innkeeper for a small bed and breakfast. After the first week, she was told that not only did she need to do payroll, scheduling, booking, check-ins and outs, but she also needed to cook breakfast for twenty people each morning!

She was OK with that, but within two months, the micromanaging owner had driven off two of the maids and she told Vicki that she would have to clean rooms too! Then she told Vicki that she needed Vicki to do all the accounting for the business, and paint all the rooms!

All without any more money, and Vicki was already working 12 hours a day!

Enough is enough, she told the lady off and quit. I really hate it when people take advantage of others, don't you?

Jives wrote: I know just how you feel Weeder, my wife took a position as an Innkeeper for a small bed and breakfast. After the first week, she was told that not only did she need to do payroll, scheduling, booking, check-ins and outs, but she also needed to cook breakfast for twenty people each morning!

She was OK with that, but within two months, the micromanaging owner had driven off two of the maids and she told Vicki that she would have to clean rooms too! Then she told Vicki that she needed Vicki to do all the accounting for the business, and paint all the rooms!

All without any more money, and Vicki was already working 12 hours a day!

Enogh is enough, she told the lady off and quit. I really hate it when people take advantage of others, don't you?


This 'lady' didn't want an employee, she wanted a lackey...............

No kidding, actually I was thinking of the words "indentured servant" or even "slave".

She's like me, she'll take on extra duties at the drop of a hat, but like all of us, she expects a fair day's wages for a fair day's work. What is it about employers piling on responsibilities without compensation?

I've had that happen to me so many times I can't count!

Jives wrote: No kidding, actually I was thinking of the words "indentured servant" or even "slave".

She's like me, she'll take on extra duties at the drop of a hat, but like all of us, she expects a fair day's wages for a fair day's work. What is it about employers piling on responsibilities without compensation?

I've had that happen to me so many times I can't count!


oooo been there too myself, sad thing my slave master was at one time my best of friend and good neighbor. I too love to pitch in, I like to be recognized for my efforts, but I certainly can not do it all for free for forever.

Accountable wrote: Yeh, I know we're supposed to whine here, but it's not my way.



I'm posting to admire Weeder. I love your general philosophy, lady! I want to bottle vials of your essence and require anybody applying for welfare to take a large dose. You are what makes America great. :-6
Accountable.. I usually just glide over compliments. Im awkward at accepting them. That doesnt mean they dont make me feel wonderful. But since your kind enough to uplift my spirit, I will share a few of my outlooks with you. I only have a high school education. Tried to take adult night classes in college when my kids were small.. couldnt handle it. No support at home. I have always been very grateful that I was given an innovative, and creative mind. Ive also always had tremendous support and encouragement from dear, true friends. I have had to fight for equal pay for equal work, all of my life. Very often my positions have taken me to places usually occupied my males. I would never tolerate being paid less than the salarys these men were offered. I also have never had any patience

( and perhaps not enough compassion) for women who couldnt find the strength within themselves to support themselves. But Ill tell you after what 30 35 years of

holding on to my philosophys... its getting very very old. What do you have to do to get to the place where things get a little EASY? Who are these people who land these cushy jobs.. for the big bucks... when does the big pay off come for being reliable,resiliant,loyal,agreeable,tolerant,honest, and able to handle responsibility? Please if you have a magical answer.. send it.. Tonite. Ps. Im off tomorrow... The hopper is full... the ashes are cleaned out... And now get this.. Tomorrow night I go represent my company at a town garden club meeting. My lecture is on The Theraputic aspects of Landscaping and Gardening. Crazy combination of professional profile eh? Should I wear black dress pants and a white silk blouse.. Or should I go as "Steve" in my goggles, dust mask, and overalls?

weeder wrote: Accountable.. I usually just glide over compliments. Im awkward at accepting them. That doesnt mean they dont make me feel wonderful. But since your kind enough to uplift my spirit, I will share a few of my outlooks with you. I only have a high school education. Tried to take adult night classes in college when my kids were small.. couldnt handle it. No support at home. I have always been very grateful that I was given an innovative, and creative mind. Ive also always had tremendous support and encouragement from dear, true friends. I have had to fight for equal pay for equal work, all of my life. Very often my positions have taken me to places usually occupied my males. I would never tolerate being paid less than the salarys these men were offered. I also have never had any patience

( and perhaps not enough compassion) for women who couldnt find the strength within themselves to support themselves. But Ill tell you after what 30 35 years of

holding on to my philosophys... its getting very very old. What do you have to do to get to the place where things get a little EASY? Who are these people who land these cushy jobs.. for the big bucks... when does the big pay off come for being reliable,resiliant,loyal,agreeable,tolerant,honest, and able to handle responsibility? Please if you have a magical answer.. send it.. Tonite. Ps. Im off tomorrow... The hopper is full... the ashes are cleaned out... And now get this.. Tomorrow night I go represent my company at a town garden club meeting. My lecture is on The Theraputic aspects of Landscaping and Gardening. Crazy combination of professional profile eh? Should I wear black dress pants and a white silk blouse.. Or should I go as "Steve" in my goggles, dust mask, and overalls?
You're talking to an umemployed guy with a masters degree. :wah: If I had that answer I'd use it myself! I think you & I are cut from the same cloth. We'll make our own way, regardless. If we have to ask for help, we'll always remember and return the favor. I guess we're old school, but there are still some young ones that are the same way.



As for the lecture, I recommend checking out Martha Stewart's home page or something. Nothing like taking your lead from the pro. Knock 'em dead! :yh_flower

Jives wrote: I know just how you feel Weeder, my wife took a position as an Innkeeper for a small bed and breakfast. After the first week, she was told that not only did she need to do payroll, scheduling, booking, check-ins and outs, but she also needed to cook breakfast for twenty people each morning!

She was OK with that, but within two months, the micromanaging owner had driven off two of the maids and she told Vicki that she would have to clean rooms too! Then she told Vicki that she needed Vicki to do all the accounting for the business, and paint all the rooms!

All without any more money, and Vicki was already working 12 hours a day!

Enough is enough, she told the lady off and quit. I really hate it when people take advantage of others, don't you?
Jives, It has been my experience over and over again..... most employers who have the opportunity to receive the services of an outstanding worker take advantage to the point of shame. There is something I read somewhere when I was very young, that stayed with me always. The jist of it was... When you work, you are trading time taken from your life.. for an agreed fee. So many people radiate the feeling that they are doing you a favor when they pay you. Or they pay you with a resentful attitude. Or a worker with low self esteem will feel "grateful" when they receive their pay. I cringe to see that. Your wife sound somewhat like me. I would venture to say she has an inner barometer that makes her feel good as she accomplishes more and more for someone. Thats a great quality. But, as she did... the line finally has to be drawn. Im definately on my guard with this man who hired me to do this job. Firstly, my eyes will never stop looking for another position, while Im employed there. Secondly, ( and this is probably not a great side of my make up) if my self respect is trampled on... I walk. I am pretty fearless when it comes to facing poverty. Ive been up and Ive been down. As my mother is fond of saying... " Weeder, I mean Laura, if you fail no one is going to put you in front of a firing squad.... are they? " No mama, but

how will I keep myself in socks, cigarettes, and an ocassional bottle of decent (not great mind you) just decent Pinot Noir?