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The Immaculate Assumption

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:53 am
by coberst
The Immaculate Assumption

All domains of knowledge rest upon some form of assumptions. Philosophy, it appears to claim, thinks it does not do so but that is for another discussion.

Our first conscious contact with assumptions probably occurred when we took Geometry and started with axioms such as “a straight line is the shortest distance between two points”.

The natural sciences assume the world is knowable, quantifiable, measurable, etc. Theology assumes the existence of a caring God and the reliability of the written word. Every domain of knowledge is limited by its assumptions. The assumptions distort and limit the world of enquiry for that domain of knowledge.

Our intellectual worldview is filled with assumptions. I think that one task of intellectual maturity is examining our closely held assumptions, which in many cases are carried over from our childhood. Track down your ideologies and examine the assumptions upon which they rest would be a good way to overcome a boring Sunday afternoon.

What assumption does one make in the name of patriotism? I am inclined to say that patriotism is ‘love of country’. I must assume that my nation deserves my love. I must assume that love can be a rationally induced emotion. I assume I my not know what I am talking about here.

The Immaculate Assumption

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:30 am
by Alfred
this is not nesisarily a bad thing so long as the assumption can be tested.

in maths an assumption must be proved to be true before it becomes fact, assuming that n=k we must test this assumption to show that n=(k+) before we can prove our assumption to be correct, a contradiction to which disprooves the assumption.

the only problem with assumptions lies wherein the assumption cannot or is not tested. then its a theory and nothing more.

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:59 am
by coberst
Alfred

I think you failed to read the last two paragraphs, which were the point of the original post.

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:41 pm
by Alfred
yeah i know i know.

i just felt like ranting,

but on that note are you saying that part of 'growing up' is challenging or prooving the assumptions made in an earlier age.

would this be what defines an adult to you?

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:52 pm
by Lon
I always like the comment that to assume makes an ass out of you and me.

The Immaculate Assumption

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:59 pm
by Alfred
Lon wrote: I always like the comment that to assume makes an ass out of you and me.
only if your assumption is wrong...:sneaky:

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:00 pm
by Lon
Alfred wrote: only if your assumption is wrong...:sneaky:


I would prefer to know than to assume.

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:03 pm
by Alfred
Lon wrote: I would prefer to know than to assume.


you can aquire knowlege through assumptions, its just harder because you have to prove them first.

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:11 pm
by BTS
Alfred wrote: only if your assumption is wrong...:sneaky:


I assume these facts........

...... there are no TWO finger prints the same.......... no two snow flakes.... no 2 rocks..........trees............voice patterns............persons DNA............

mountains......... no grains of sand............. no 2 faces.....



I will also assume this is not a accident..............there are powers we can not see that are in charge...........and make sure there are NEVER 2 things the same...

(HELL OF A JOB EH? but smeones got to do it:driving: ):-6



I might add the world population is:

6,499,811,981

and all thru tyme NO 2 things the same..........

Accident?

I think NOT!!!!!!

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:13 pm
by chonsigirl
Is that why my recipe for shrimp gumbo just never turns out the same everytime?

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:15 pm
by Alfred
BTS wrote: I assume these facts........

...... there are no TWO finger prints the same.......... no two snow flakes.... no 2 rocks..........trees............voice patterns............persons DNA............

mountains......... no grains of sand............. no 2 faces.....



I will also assume this is not a accident..............there are powers we can not see that are in charge...........and make sure there are NEVER 2 things the same...

(HELL OF A JOB EH? but smeones got to do it:driving: ):-6


i don't envy the person who tries to prove that no 2 grains of sand are the same.

this is one case where we have an excelent assumption.

The Immaculate Assumption

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:16 pm
by chonsigirl
Well, srubbing the walls of handprints shows them the same, and I know who put them there!

The Immaculate Assumption

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:17 pm
by BTS
chonsigirl wrote: Well, srubbing the walls of handprints shows them the same, and I know who put them there!


LOL......... NOt I ...........:lips:

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:18 pm
by Alfred
chonsigirl wrote: Well, srubbing the walls of handprints shows them the same, and I know who put them there!


Detective chonsi, on the case.