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Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:27 pm
by RedGlitter
but don't tell us what is good for China. Thank you very much!"

Why ARE we telling China to curb their military $$ when USA is spending too much as well??

Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:33 pm
by Sheryl
He added: "It's not a matter of how big Taiwan is, but for China, one inch of the territory is more valuable than the life of our people. We will never concede on that


If I were a Chinese citizen the above statement would scare the hell out of me. Heck, it scares me and I'm not one. :-2

Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:08 pm
by RedGlitter
It scares me as an American because it shows that these people have the seeds of terrorism just ready to sprout. And China hates the US?! :wah:

Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:13 pm
by Nomad
Am I anti American if I say I like it ? Not the military spending mind you but the shut up and mind your own business. Good lesson for us in diplomacy.

Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:03 pm
by nvalleyvee
Scrat........

Why don't you ask people in America how they feel?

Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:11 pm
by Captain Ray
nvalleyvee wrote: Scrat........

Why don't you ask people in America how they feel?


Yeah!!!

Why don't you ask me?! I will be glad to tell you what I think about the communists Chinese.. they are tired of us?! LOL

Ask your friends in communist Chinese occupied Hong Kong what they think of there occupiers.. One little outpost of capitalism in that communist monolith.. don't let them get executed for answering your question though.. that would be mean.

Raymond

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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:25 pm
by koan
I think I laughed and clapped my hands with glee when I read this.

In part because I read his dialogue out loud with a Chinese accent. :o

Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:09 am
by spot
Captain Ray wrote: Yeah!!!

Why don't you ask me?! I will be glad to tell you what I think about the communists Chinese.. they are tired of us?! LOLOh, this stale old scabby "better dead than Red" rubbish does keep popping out of its kennel to scare the children. It's a bogey-word, and the US seems to thrive on bogeys.

"The Pentagon last year estimated that China's defence spending was two to three times the publicly announced figure"? Would it were ten times. It would still be less than 20% per head of population compared to the USA's figure, and still less than the US total in real terms by comparison. Most importantly the Chinese forces stay on China's home soil. The nation that deserves ostracism is the nation that sends its troops abroad to kill foreigners, whatever pious well-intentioned "good" public reason it might give. Even were every one of the lies true they're still, added together, no excuse for interfering abroad in the affairs of any sovereign nation, short of preventing (rather than mopping up the consequences of) genocide as declared in the appropriate international forum or reacting proportionately to a real immediate upcoming threat to the homeland - note the "real" as opposed to "invented" or even merely "perceived because we claim it's true and we're the good guys" , the "proportionately" as opposed to "overwhelmingly", the "immediate" as opposed to "sometime" or "maybe in three years", and the "upcoming" as opposed to "last month some Saudis flew killer-planes across our NORAD-defended airspace", they're vital words.

It's forty years since the British movement to oppose apartheid announced a boycott on goods imported from South Africa. That grew into one of the nails in the coffin of the segregationist administration. It's one of the triumphs of non-violent protest. What will it take to talk the USA into an isolationist refusal to engage militarily beyond its homeland? Economic hardship of a similar order?

If that helps even slightly then I'll sign up now. Anything I buy I'll check ownership of the producer and the retailer and look for non-American alternatives before I part with money. It's not going to hurt the majority underclass in the USA who depend on monthly employment earnings to stay housed and fed and medicated, they're under constant attack by the wealthy already. If it reduces shareholder value on the various exchanges then it might finally affect perceptions where perception counts.

Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:58 am
by Captain Ray
With a little love.. we can work it out.. the willow turns it's back on inclement weather... That sounds good!!

With a few strategically placed nuclear bombs we can make it work out too!! I would rather that love would conquer the day, but it never has before... as a matter of pragmatism.. nuclear bombs seem to be the better choice.

Raymond

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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:24 am
by spot
Captain Ray wrote: With a little love.. we can work it out.. the willow turns it's back on inclement weather... That sounds good!!

With a few strategically placed nuclear bombs we can make it work out too!! I would rather that love would conquer the day, but it never has before... as a matter of pragmatism.. nuclear bombs seem to be the better choice.That seems a singularly foolish observation, neither amusing nor informative. Par for the course, really. Employing a nuclear option is, I'm quite certain, a potential war crime just waiting for a maniac to make it happen. Why would you find it desirable? What's wrong with simple trade? Why do you want megadeaths instead of prosperity?

I very very rarely ask why someone uses an apostrophe, but in the case of "the willow turns it's back on inclement weather" it might just possibly untangle your thinking. Given that Paul McCartney wrote "his" originally, why have you modified the sense into such obscurity?

Patience with America is wearing thin.

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:57 am
by Bryn Mawr
Nomad wrote: Am I anti American if I say I like it ? Not the military spending mind you but the shut up and mind your own business. Good lesson for us in diplomacy.


It will be interesting to see whether the US responds to this "mind your own business" in the same way it did to Iran's.

Or whether it looks at China's capability and thinks better of trying to bully them.