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Baby Bomb

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:12 pm
by Nomad
Bottle and baby used as bomb



By Fiona Hudson

August 14, 2006 12:00



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A HUSBAND and wife arrested in the British terror raids allegedly planned to take their six-month-old baby on a mid-air suicide mission.

Scotland Yard police are quizzing Abdula Ahmed Ali, 25, and his 23-year-old wife Cossor over suspicions they were to use their baby's bottle to hide a liquid bomb.

The theory is one of the reasons security chiefs are now insisting mothers taste babies' milk at check-in desks before allowing them to take bottles aboard flights.

The pair are among up to 23 suspects being questioned over a plot to bring down nine airliners over five US cities, killing thousands of people in the air and on the ground.

The questioning of the group comes as British Government sources yesterday revealed many of those suspects posed as relief workers to travel to al-Qaeda training camps in Pakistan.

It has also been revealed that security services are secretly monitoring "dozens" of fresh plots involving hundreds of suspects which could be unleashed at any time.

One government source said at least 30 priority cases were under urgent investigation.

" All those 30 are seen as serious, determined attacks that will happen unless we stop them," the source said.

Police spent yesterday combing through the Alis' east London housing commission flat for clues.

Cossor took her baby with her to the police station during last week's raids but her son is now being cared for by grandparents.

Cossor's grandfather, Nazir Ahmed, 84, said Abdula had travelled to Pakistan about four weeks ago.

"We didn't understand what the hurry was and why he needed to go," Mr Ahmed said.

A neighbour at the flats where the married couple lived said he would be stunned if claims were true.

"I simply cannot believe he could have been involved in a plot like this. He is religious and seemed to love his family," the neighbour said.

"I would never have dreamed he could have been involved in anything like this."

A family friend of Cossor said she had known the arrested mother 12 years and believed her to be innocent.

"I think it is a case of mistaken identity. The last thing she'd be interested in is terrorism. They are just simple day-to-day people going about their own business," she said.

Police in England have reportedly recovered bottles containing peroxide, including some with false bottoms, from a recycling centre close to the homes of some of the arrested suspects.

It has emerged MI5 agents launched covert intrusions on the homes of some suspects several weeks ago in "sneak and peek" operations to plant listening devices and gather evidence ahead of the arrests last week.

Links between suspects in the jet bomb plot and those behind the London 7/7 attacks have also come to light.

There are reports as many as five of those arrested attended the same terror training camp in Pakistan as two of the July 7 London suicide bombers.

And US intelligence sources said they believed at least two of the suspects had trained in Karachi and met al-Qaeda operatives in the lead up to the 7/7 attacks.

Baby Bomb

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:30 pm
by koan
What, I support idiots that will blow their baby up? I am a dissenter. Call me what you want but writing "Baby Bomb Koan" is a little unscrupulous.

Being a dissenter does not mean that I support or condone what they do.

By the way, this article is all over the net but its details vary and there is no solid source. If you know it, please share.

Baby Bomb

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:39 pm
by Nomad
If you dont agree with what they do then why do you put so much effort into defending them. And your right I will change the title. Im sorry.

Baby Bomb

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:52 pm
by koan
Thank you.

I am putting effort into understanding why they are doing what they do. It always leads back to what has been done to them. If people don't accept both sides the wrongs will never stop and all we will get are more dead babies, be they accidental or killed intentionally.

btw, nothing has been proven or confirmed.

One of the big question marks for me is how they get away with saying the minor's name. A six month old who is still alive and has his name all over the internet. I've never seen respectable journalists name a minor in print before.

Even if they didn't do this, I'm sure there are similar stories. You have to ask what makes them so desperate. Until that question is dealt with there is no chance of stopping it.

Baby Bomb

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:06 pm
by nihilisticmadman
Ok first, those are only suspicions...

Plenty of people are suspected of many things and still quite a lot of them are found innoncent...

Here I think what the media like is that the peple are muslim and it just good info to hae on TV and the media seem to just love the new mulslim haters movement... It's good for the business...

Yes some are capable of using babies, but they don't have to be muslim or terrorists...

At the end of the day even if it is proven that they would have went with their baby, they would have take one baby life and frankly next to the numbers of baby and children killed in AirStrikes or other military attacks, it's nothing...

Baby Bomb

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:19 pm
by Bryn Mawr
Nomad wrote: If you dont agree with what they do then why do you put so much effort into defending them. And your right I will change the title. Im sorry.


Because Golem and Bronwin and the like spend so much time vilifying them?

Baby Bomb

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:24 pm
by Bryn Mawr
Diuretic wrote: We'll soon find out, I believe they are among the ones recently charged.


Applications have been made for her release due to "errors in procedure".

BTW - have you heard of the two arabs removed from a plane from Malaga to England?

Dressed in heavy jackets and jumpers, constantly looking at their watches and speaking arabic. Passengers revolted and had them thrown off. Nothing found.

Big controversy ensues.

How to stir up a storm and win compensation at the same time?

Baby Bomb

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:44 am
by koan
The woman was charged with withholding information but not with any charges that verify the bottle fiasco. I think the whole baby story was created out of the fact that the baby was taken with her to the police station as it was so young. Hopefully they made up the kid's name as well.