Forum Members Solve Problem of Crime

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:50 am

MEMBERS OF ONLINE FORUM FIND SOLUTION TO CRIME

Shocking the sociological world, a small group from an online forum have managed to find the solution to both crime and the gay problem. Realizing that sex in jail helps spread AIDS through this undesirable community, they stumbled upon the solution that denying the prisoners condoms would help kill off the scourge of society. Though some might think the method of elimination cruel and unusual, aside from taking a potentially long time, they have thought it through carefully and realize that the longer it takes the criminals to die the larger the number of other undesirable people that will be killed along with them. It's a win-win scenario.

Realizing that some might find the solution unpalatable, Shweet replies that it is a good way to "thin the heard [sic] a little bit." When pointed out that this method might end up victimizing innocent people once the prisoners are released he had the incredibly valid point that "Perhaps you don't go too [sic] prison in the first place." It is this type of hard line reasoning that makes this solution so brilliant. Criminologists are dumbstruck that they didn't think of it themselves. "I'm with you on this one, Shweet" says Accountable, quick to realize the brilliance of the solution. The resident police official helpfully clarified that "sexual activity is an offense" and worried that "handing out condoms would appear to condone it". Flying in the face of prevention theory, this clever group has considered every aspect and the prison staff are quite excited. As to the men that are forcibly raped inside the jails, 911 offers "Oh, well..."

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:00 am

Ditto Floppy, it is prison these people aren't boy scouts they are there because they have anti social behaviors. Do you think being issued a condoms would stop them from raping and killing each other, and passing on STD's.

Might work if they all had to line up and put it on after breakfast and leave it on till breakfast the next day...:-3 They could careless if they are spreading disease.

While were at it lets make sure they have their flu shot annually, and a colon cancer screening, let see what else can we do for our prisoners, that we have to pay and arm and leg for on the outside. :-5

I like Sweets idea of crowd thining, works for me.

[QUOTE]Have I missed the new trend in rape? Ya know, the one where, before forcibly raping someone else, the rapist has the foresight to don a condom to protect both the victim and themselves from possible health risks due to unsafe sex ?

Wow, I have been out of touch lately.[/QUOTE]

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:11 am

flopstock;466463 wrote: Really? On a routine basis or just the select, 'make the nightly news' occasion? Is there data somewhere collected on reported rapes that includes this information as a factual reference? Or is it another of those things that people just 'know'?Today's New York Times http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A962958260 discusses the issue, strangely enough.In what might be an unforeseen consequence of sex education, rapists are increasingly wearing condoms. Five years ago investigators would have been surprised by a victim's statement that her assailant used a condom. Today detectives, prosecutors and counselors say that it is no longer unusual.

[...] Rape counselors across the country say that patients routinely say that the man who attacked them used a condom. Rachel Ferencik, a counselor at the Grady Rape Crisis Center at Grady Hospital in Atlanta, said that it has become one of the first questions emergency-room doctors ask patients.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:16 am

Do you think it might be for two reason they may be using condoms.

1. Avoiding arrest by not leaving evidence at the scene.

2. Not contracting an SDT from whom ever they rape.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:30 am

Lets not miss the point that rape is a planned out crime of violence not a spontaneous crime of passion. Even if the condom was always used to block DNA evidence it serves both purposes.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:42 am

CARLA;466459 wrote: Ditto Floppy, it is prison these people aren't boy scouts they are there because they have anti social behaviors. Do you think being issued a condoms would stop them from raping and killing each other, and passing on STD's.

Not all people in prison are there for "reaqlly, really nasty crimes". Indeed, in the

UK, maybe 15% of people imprisoned have not been convicted of anything.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:46 am

Diuretic;466487 wrote: It's not helpful to stereotype a crime like that. Yes some crimes of rape are meticulously planned and there are many reasons for that, not the least of which is the offender trying to ensure he escapes apprehension but you know of course that some take pleasure in detailed planning as it heightens the anticipation. Others are indeed spontaneous and not so much about passion as lust.

Yes, that is true. The violence, as opposed to passionate, nature is correct but sometimes it happens spontaneously...in normal society. I have a lot of trouble believing that in jail, date rape is something that happens. It's not like they are wandering around unsupervised.

In normal conditions I am certainly incorrect. In jail, however...

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:57 am

I'd like to hear more thoughts on this idea that AIDS is a good way of killing off the criminals in our society.

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:48 am

koan;466366 wrote: MEMBERS OF ONLINE FORUM FIND SOLUTION TO CRIME

Shocking the sociological world, a small group from an online forum have managed to find the solution to both crime and the gay problem. Realizing that sex in jail helps spread AIDS through this undesirable community, they stumbled upon the solution that denying the prisoners condoms would help kill off the scourge of society. Though some might think the method of elimination cruel and unusual, aside from taking a potentially long time, they have thought it through carefully and realize that the longer it takes the criminals to die the larger the number of other undesirable people that will be killed along with them. It's a win-win scenario.

Realizing that some might find the solution unpalatable, Shweet replies that it is a good way to "thin the heard [sic] a little bit." When pointed out that this method might end up victimizing innocent people once the prisoners are released he had the incredibly valid point that "Perhaps you don't go too [sic] prison in the first place." It is this type of hard line reasoning that makes this solution so brilliant. Criminologists are dumbstruck that they didn't think of it themselves. "I'm with you on this one, Shweet" says Accountable, quick to realize the brilliance of the solution. The resident police official helpfully clarified that "sexual activity is an offense" and worried that "handing out condoms would appear to condone it". Flying in the face of prevention theory, this clever group has considered every aspect and the prison staff are quite excited. As to the men that are forcibly raped inside the jails, 911 offers "Oh, well..."

may i point out that prisoners are tested for hiv. and given all the latest hiv meds out at the tax payers cost. You start out with five or six positives and as the months go by the numbers spread untill whole blocks are positive and on meds. :-3 Would you rather pay for a condom or hundreds of dollars of meds ?

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:27 pm

flopstock;466628 wrote:

Personally, I like death in specific instances.

Sorry, floppy, just had to see that line on its own. Couldn't resist.

I agree with your whole post, except the paragraph that line came from. You make a lot of good, and what I think should be obvious, points. It seems weird to have to point certain things out to, what I consider to be, a rational community.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:02 pm

flopstock;466651 wrote: I knew you'd like that! I put it in especially for you girl!:wah: :wah:

Predictability. I hang my head in shame. :yh_rotfl

good one:o

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:54 pm

Just how much control does a high security prison have over it's inmates?

I'd always, naively, assumed that they were watched all of the time they were out of their cells and that they were in with the same cellmate(s) each night.

That doesn't give much scope for the rapid spread of STDs throughout the prison so where does the scenario break down?

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:16 pm

jeez throw one random thought out there and panties are in bunch in record time.

As much as i love a good fight,i can't waste my talent on Pedophiles and the criminally insane.

So you all can duke it out yourselves.

but I urge you not too spend too much time on this,we more important things on here too talk about.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:18 pm

This comes from a site with articles written by prisoners.

Sexual interests doesn't stop because a person is imprisoned. This department is not about normal and consensual sex, only about the widespread incidence of rape in prison. Since most prisoners are men, that generally means homosexual rape. The rapists are sometimes other prisoners. It's almost as likely for the rapist to be a member of the prison staff. Staff rapists are almost never punished, just fired. Staff crimes are covered-up by officials. At the guards' so-called training academy in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania, guards had a regular rape/sex ring where "trustees" were sexually assaulted. When prisoners complained, they were punished. When questioned, administrators hid behind the cover-story that the victims of the sexual assaults hadn't properly filed the useless institutional grievances. The guards involved are still abusing helpless prisoners.

The obvious criticism that prisoners might lie about prison guards. OTOH they could just as easily be telling the truth.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:20 pm

koan;466366 wrote: MEMBERS OF ONLINE FORUM FIND SOLUTION TO CRIME

Shocking the sociological world, a small group from an online forum have managed to find the solution to both crime and the gay problem. Realizing that sex in jail helps spread AIDS through this undesirable community, they stumbled upon the solution that denying the prisoners condoms would help kill off the scourge of society. Though some might think the method of elimination cruel and unusual, aside from taking a potentially long time, they have thought it through carefully and realize that the longer it takes the criminals to die the larger the number of other undesirable people that will be killed along with them. It's a win-win scenario.

Realizing that some might find the solution unpalatable, Shweet replies that it is a good way to "thin the heard [sic] a little bit." When pointed out that this method might end up victimizing innocent people once the prisoners are released he had the incredibly valid point that "Perhaps you don't go too [sic] prison in the first place." It is this type of hard line reasoning that makes this solution so brilliant. Criminologists are dumbstruck that they didn't think of it themselves. "I'm with you on this one, Shweet" says Accountable, quick to realize the brilliance of the solution. The resident police official helpfully clarified that "sexual activity is an offense" and worried that "handing out condoms would appear to condone it". Flying in the face of prevention theory, this clever group has considered every aspect and the prison staff are quite excited. As to the men that are forcibly raped inside the jails, 911 offers "Oh, well..."
:wah: This from the bitch that questions the agenda of a book on happiness. :wah:

Look, Koan. Why don't you go give all these poor slobs a hand, if you think that's what they need. Until then.

Yeh, Shweet, I agree with you!!

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:22 pm

It seems prisons are different in the UK.

Here in America we treat too well,give them too many rights.

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:24 pm

Accountable;467001 wrote: :wah: This from the bitch that questions the agenda of a book on happiness. :wah:

Look, Koan. Why don't you go give all these poor slobs a hand, if you think that's what they need. Until then.

Yeh, Shweet, I agree with you!!

He,HE,HE he said hand He he he

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:24 pm

Accountable;467001 wrote: :wah: This from the bitch that questions the agenda of a book on happiness. :wah:

Look, Koan. Why don't you go give all these poor slobs a hand, if you think that's what they need. Until then.

Yeh, Shweet, I agree with you!!

Why don't you just bitch slap me, Acc?

I fear your misguided notions will continue much longer than you suggest. At least you were 'got at' with style.

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:27 pm

Thanx for seeing it my way AC.

I heard that in Texas,they have sped up the death penalty process.

Thats a good idea too.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:32 pm

Shweet tatersalad;467009 wrote: Thanx for seeing it my way AC.

I heard that in Texas,they have sped up the death penalty process.

Thats a good idea too.
Not sure how speedy it is, but it's probably pretty quick, compared to other states.

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:46 pm

Accountable;467011 wrote: Not sure how speedy it is, but it's probably pretty quick, compared to other states.

The way Ron White says it,if three or more poeple see you do what you did you go too the front of the line.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:03 pm

SnoozeControl;467020 wrote: Come on you two, can't you try for some pseudo-intellectual banter? I believe that's the theme of this thread. :rolleyes:
Sorry, my finesser is offline. I'll try harder.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:03 pm

:wah: :wah: Ron White love him, and I agree..

[QUOTE]The way Ron White says it,if three or more poeple see you do what you did you go too the front of the line.[/QUOTE]

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:07 pm

i watched this thread with some interest today, and was rather surprised that only few, if any, recognized the inherent insults and ridicule in the initial post. some did, but were intimidated from saying so. snippets of quotes were lifted out of context to facilitate a sarcastic put-down of peoples' comments in the 'aids' thread.

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:10 pm

lady cop;467025 wrote: i watched this thread with some interest today, and was rather surprised that only a few recognized the inherent insults and ridicule in the initial post. some did, but were intimidated from saying so. snippets of quotes were lifted out of context to facilitate a sarcastic put-down of peoples' comments in the 'aids' thread.

I caught'em,just did not want too address them.There was enough rope there too hang a whale.

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:14 pm

Ok,Thats a new way too look at it for me.:-2

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:27 pm

flopstock;467050 wrote: Is he on the ballot for president? If not, we should start a petition drive..

I'm sorry but MY vote is too My one true god,George Carlin,but Ron can run with him as his vice.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:44 pm

Amen to that Carlin is the man..:wah:

[QUOTE]True.. for Carlin I would have to turn the TV on for the state of the union speech![/QUOTE]

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:48 pm

I would like too hear his take on this subject.

Perhaps i will e-mail him and see if i can get a response.

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:50 am

koan;466366 wrote: MEMBERS OF ONLINE FORUM FIND SOLUTION TO CRIME

Shocking the sociological world, a small group from an online forum have managed to find the solution to both crime and the gay problem. Realizing that sex in jail helps spread AIDS through this undesirable community, they stumbled upon the solution that denying the prisoners condoms would help kill off the scourge of society. Though some might think the method of elimination cruel and unusual, aside from taking a potentially long time, they have thought it through carefully and realize that the longer it takes the criminals to die the larger the number of other undesirable people that will be killed along with them. It's a win-win scenario.

Realizing that some might find the solution unpalatable, Shweet replies that it is a good way to "thin the heard [sic] a little bit." When pointed out that this method might end up victimizing innocent people once the prisoners are released he had the incredibly valid point that "Perhaps you don't go too [sic] prison in the first place." It is this type of hard line reasoning that makes this solution so brilliant. Criminologists are dumbstruck that they didn't think of it themselves. "I'm with you on this one, Shweet" says Accountable, quick to realize the brilliance of the solution. The resident police official helpfully clarified that "sexual activity is an offense" and worried that "handing out condoms would appear to condone it". Flying in the face of prevention theory, this clever group has considered every aspect and the prison staff are quite excited. As to the men that are forcibly raped inside the jails, 911 offers "Oh, well..."

Back to reality.

Well, well, the gang's all here...the moment I log off. Funny how that works.

Out of context? I'm flabbergasted. Where? Which?

It might be noted that the headline is not arbitrarily underlined. It is, in fact, for those not anxious to be in denial, a link. A link back to the thread from which they came. Please, explain how they are out of context.

As if five or six on one wasn't big enough odds we have snooze no longer finding the summary amusing. What a shame that others can steal her sense of humour so.

Post by **spot** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:31 am

SnoozeControl;467028 wrote: Well, I could be wrong but I think people were trying to turn a blind eye to a serious forum social gaffe.Oh, I so wish I knew how to commit a serious forum social gaffe. Contrasting the contrite penitent with someone drunk with the blood of the saints wouldn't do it, I suppose?

So synchronized dumping returns to the ForumGarden Olympics. Queue at the door, ladies. The honeymoon period of "I'll never coordinate a crapfest again, honest" predictably hits the irresistable buffers of gin-soaked malevolence. All change, please. End of the line.

Post by **spot** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:39 am

flopstock;467131 wrote: The less charitable might be tempted to point out that you show up the moment these others sign out...funny how THAT worked isn't it?:DIf they were as incapable of seeing timestamps on posts as they are in recognising a hyperlink, perhaps they might. There's a five hour gap between the last of that group and the start of this. "i watched this thread with some interest today" is a better clue to the coordinated deployment of troops, surely.

Post by **spot** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:41 am

flopstock;467134 wrote: Jesus, Mary and Joseph...spot! Have you lost your mind? If this is how you react to gin sweetie, switch to vodka...

This is kinda off the deep end, even for you.... and although we both know I normally find that very entertaining, I'm worried ...

Are you okay darlin'?Perfectly sober thank you, flops. I even went to bed last night with an unclouded mind and a clear conscience.