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and another good morning and the wish for a good health and happiness day to all you wonderful f...gardeners out there on the big spinning ball. this is day seven since the stroke symptoms set in, once again reminding me of the eventual mortality of it all, and no positive changes in the symptoms (perhaps even a worsening in the slurrrring of the verbal, along with the blurrrring of vision, and general fatigue and weakness - probably a big part from the long list of possible side effects of the meds they prescribe for curing this possible bells-palsy). ahh well, life goes on, or not. again it does bring on the feeling of urgency to try to accomplish the mission path i've started along. after reading a lot of yesterdays threads and posts, i hope trying to resolve some of the missing person disasters occurring globally isn't considered an agenda or an ugly thread to be avoided. none of the volunteers of the FOCUS org. (Finding Our Children Under Stress) receive any type of pay or compensation - every donated cent we receive goes directly into programs we've created to increase the potential for finding a missing child or preventing child abductions; plus, a lot comes out of our own pockets to keep our mission advancing. still haven't received a reply back from anyone about missing person notices displayed in your local post office; so, if your going out and about today and happen into a post office just walk around the lobby, see if they have any "Postal Bulletin" missing person notices displayed, reply back to me with the zip code, how many notices were displayed, and the month and year the Postal Bulletin was printed (the NCMEC prints several multi-photo flyers monthly and sends them by FAX to the post master of every postal district in the u.s. since so many of the missing person laws, presidential memorandums, and help find and prevent missing children programs created and developed in the u.s. are being adopted globally, this request goes out globally. the u.k. recently copied a u.s. started law (created by one of the founding families of FOCUS, a family with a missing daughter) the law is called Jennifer's law - does anyone know if it was written in the u.k. the way it was originally intended to function, or did you get the watered down version as it was re-written by govt. here. original intention was every coroner in the country is "required" to cross reference the dental, dna, and fingerprints of an unidentified body (a john or jane doe) with reported missing persons (thousands of unidentified bodies are still being buried in this country yearly without a cross reference being done). the way jennifer's law ended up being written here (so it would pass in congress and the senate) was it is "recommended" that a cross reference be done (they didn't want to add any extra work for law enforcement or govt. agencies) . for example, within the last month an unidentified body was found in s. ca, and a local nonprofit watch-dog group contacted the coroner in the county where jennifer vanished from, and "recommended" they cross reference to see if there was any match with reported missing persons matching the age and general description of the jane doe in s. ca. they were told there was no reason to do the cross-reference because that case had been resolved years ago. a total lie, jennifer is still missing and her family is still searching. this is just one example of what families of a missing person has to deal with when they file a missing person report for a missing loved one. there's many reports from family members of a reported missing person, about officials responsible for conducting the search for their missing loved one, being called "trouble makers" because they demand the instructions for the laws and programs created to help find their missing child be followed as they are written. the same thing applies to many of the national (annually funded) fed programs and laws. money is appropriated to do the programs; but, the instructions describing the management of the programs are not followed (many of the laws and programs end up functioning at a level of efficiency below what they were originally intended (and many of them could be fixed by simple management communication from the elected officials and govt. agencies responsible for managing them). so, if we start with one (the Child Alert Program, for instance) and put some pressure on the govt. to fix the program so it does what it's suppose to do ("the monthly printed Postal Bulletin missing child notices are to be displayed in every post office lobby, workroom floor area, and other postal facility in the country") maybe that might start a trend to fix some of the other laws, policies, and programs that are suppose to benefit the general public. the Child Alert Program also instructs, "within 24 hours of a reported missing person case every post office in the country will have a notice of that missing person on display". you can find these instructions written on the back of every monthly Postal Bulletin printed since 1985 and in the Presidential Memorandum signed by clinton on 1/19/96. anyway, enjoy nature and if you happen to go into a post office check it out and let us know what you find in regards to missing person notice displays (maybe it's just the 2,000 plus post offices i've been in on the west coast that don't maintain a display; however, i have a feeling it's a lot more wide spread than that).

Please don't get discouraged by your illness. I'm sure you will make a splendid recovery. I had a friend who had Bells Palsy and although it would affect him now and again, he always returned to "normal". The slackening in his face would recover as would his speech. I'm sure, given time, you'll be just fine. My prayers are with you.

I'm not sure you know just how much law enforcement is supposed to do when it comes to missing children. Here, where I live, the LE agency has only a certain number of hours in which to enter a missing child otherwise they can be in big trouble. Once the person or child is entered into the database, the national computer matches that with all unidentified persons or bodies that have also been entered. If the computer find a match between a missing person and an unidentifed person the entering agency receives a 'hit' from the computer to check with the other entering agency. It's quite a system. It also works with cars and articles and anything else that is entered. We once entered a stolen car and within 45 minutes we had the car and thief in custody. This is not an isolated event either.

Instead of fighting with the agencies you are working with, work with them and ask them what you can do for them. No system is perfect because it is run by humans and no human is perfect. I can't tell you how many times we have entered the same child over and over and over again just to have them come home an hour later. But, better safe than sorry.

What you are doing is a good thing but ease up on the agencies you work with. Keep in touch with their liason and be a friend to the agency and not a pest. (Pest is probably not the best word to use, but I think you understand my point).

Have you thought about printing up a regular little magazine to be placed around town that people can pick up for free? You know, like all those real estate magazines you see at the door at restaurants and Quick stores. People will pick those up just to have something to read while traveling. It shouldn't be too hard to find retail sponsers to help you out. Just a thought. Keep up the good work and take your meds!

My 23 yr old son has Bells Palsy. He has had two major incidents, but both times returned to normal. I also have a 50 + yr old friend that has it that did lose muscle use in one side of his face but other than that returned to normal.

911;490483 wrote: Please don't get discouraged by your illness. I'm sure you will make a splendid recovery. I had a friend who had Bells Palsy and although it would affect him now and again, he always returned to "normal". The slackening in his face would recover as would his speech. I'm sure, given time, you'll be just fine. My prayers are with you.

I'm not sure you know just how much law enforcement is supposed to do when it comes to missing children. Here, where I live, the LE agency has only a certain number of hours in which to enter a missing child otherwise they can be in big trouble. Once the person or child is entered into the database, the national computer matches that with all unidentified persons or bodies that have also been entered. If the computer find a match between a missing person and an unidentifed person the entering agency receives a 'hit' from the computer to check with the other entering agency. It's quite a system. It also works with cars and articles and anything else that is entered. We once entered a stolen car and within 45 minutes we had the car and thief in custody. This is not an isolated event either.

Instead of fighting with the agencies you are working with, work with them and ask them what you can do for them. No system is perfect because it is run by humans and no human is perfect. I can't tell you how many times we have entered the same child over and over and over again just to have them come home an hour later. But, better safe than sorry.

What you are doing is a good thing but ease up on the agencies you work with. Keep in touch with their liason and be a friend to the agency and not a pest. (Pest is probably not the best word to use, but I think you understand my point).

Have you thought about printing up a regular little magazine to be placed around town that people can pick up for free? You know, like all those real estate magazines you see at the door at restaurants and Quick stores. People will pick those up just to have something to read while traveling. It shouldn't be too hard to find retail sponsers to help you out. Just a thought. Keep up the good work and take your meds!
really appreciate all you've said. did you receive the reply i sent back on e-mail?

YZGI;490522 wrote: My 23 yr old son has Bells Palsy. He has had two major incidents, but both times returned to normal. I also have a 50 + yr old friend that has it that did lose muscle use in one side of his face but other than that returned to normal.


thanks for sharing your info it is encouraging.

teramiabullfrog;490977 wrote: really appreciate all you've said. did you receive the reply i sent back on e-mail?


No.

911;490483 wrote: Please don't get discouraged by your illness. I'm sure you will make a splendid recovery. I had a friend who had Bells Palsy and although it would affect him now and again, he always returned to "normal". The slackening in his face would recover as would his speech. I'm sure, given time, you'll be just fine. My prayers are with you.

I'm not sure you know just how much law enforcement is supposed to do when it comes to missing children. Here, where I live, the LE agency has only a certain number of hours in which to enter a missing child otherwise they can be in big trouble. Once the person or child is entered into the database, the national computer matches that with all unidentified persons or bodies that have also been entered. If the computer find a match between a missing person and an unidentified person the entering agency receives a 'hit' from the computer to check with the other entering agency. It's quite a system. It also works with cars and articles and anything else that is entered. We once entered a stolen car and within 45 minutes we had the car and thief in custody. This is not an isolated event either.

Instead of fighting with the agencies you are working with, work with them and ask them what you can do for them. No system is perfect because it is run by humans and no human is perfect. I can't tell you how many times we have entered the same child over and over and over again just to have them come home an hour later. But, better safe than sorry.

What you are doing is a good thing but ease up on the agencies you work with. Keep in touch with their liaison and be a friend to the agency and not a pest. (Pest is probably not the best word to use, but I think you understand my point).

Have you thought about printing up a regular little magazine to be placed around town that people can pick up for free? You know, like all those real estate magazines you see at the door at restaurants and Quick stores. People will pick those up just to have something to read while traveling. It shouldn't be too hard to find retail sponsors to help you out. Just a thought. Keep up the good work and take your meds!
THANK YOU 911 FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT, GOOD WISHES, AND PRAYERS FOR MY CURRENT MEDICAL PROBLEM. HOPEFULLY, I'LL BE BACK ON THE ROAD AGAIN FOR OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MISSING CHILD FLYER DISTRIBUTION TRIP STARTING 1/8 (SAN FRANCISCO TO PORT ANGELES, WA ALONG HWY. 101 THEN EAST TO TACOMA, WA. THERE'S 56 POST OFFICES ALONG THAT ROUTE AND THE 07 MISSING PERSON DISPLAY BINDER WILL BE LEFT IN THE LOBBY OF EVERY ONE OF THEM. UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF THE STATION MASTERS HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO REMOVE THEM (BY THEIR DISTRICT POST MASTER), WE LEAVE THEM ANYWAY )SOME STATION MASTERS KEEP THEM BEHIND THEIR COUNTER TO SHOW PEOPLE IF THEY ASK. THIS WILL BE THE 13TH YEAR DISTRIBUTING MISSING PERSON NOTICES ALONG THIS ROUTE; HOPEFULLY, FROM MAY TO SEPT. I'LL BE TRAVELING FROM ONE COUNTY FAIR TO ANOTHER WITH OUR MAC SHACK BOOTH ALONG THE OTHER 12,000 MILES THROUGH 8 WESTERN STATES WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS (OVER 2,000 POST OFFICES, ONLY 5 HAVE ANY TYPE FLYER DISPLAY {OTHER THAN THE ONES WE LEAVE}; PLUS, THE ONE IN TEXAS THAT "ACCOUNTABLE" CHECKED, SO SIX OUT OF OVER 2,000, YOU DO THE MATH, NOT A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE). TO MAKE IT WORSE IT'S A SIMPLE FIX TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM FUNCTION AT THE LEVEL OF EFFICIENCY IT WAS INTENDED, AND WHICH IT IS FUNDED ANNUALLY - WITH OUR TAX MONEY. THREE FIFTHS OF THE PROGRAM IS ALREADY BEING DONE. THE PROGRAM IS FUNDED, THE NCMEC PRINTS THE MISSING CHILD "POSTAL NOTICES" EVERY MONTH, THEY FAX THEM TO THE POST MASTER OF EACH POSTAL DISTRICT. NEXT INSTRUCTION: "THE POST MASTER IS REQUIRED TO MAKE ENOUGH COPIES FOR EACH POST OFFICE IN THE DISTRICT AND THEY ARE TO BE DISPLAYED IN EVERY POST OFFICE LOBBY, WORKROOM FLOOR AREA, AND OTHER POSTAL FACILITY".

REGARDING KNOWING HOW MUCH WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SUPPOSE TO DO REGARDING MISSING CHILDREN, WE DO. IF YOU WANT ME TO WRITE A NOVEL ABOUT THE HORROR STORIES I'VE HEARD FROM THE FAMILIES OF THE MISSING REGARDING THIS SUBJECT... THE NCMEC RECEIVES OVER 20 MILLION A YEAR IN FED MONEY, LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING REGARDING HANDLING MISSING CHILDREN CASES IS ONE OF, IF NOT THEIR MAIN FUNCTION, IT SEEMS SOME OF THE MONEY WOULD GO TO THE PROGRAMS AND NOT INTO THE POCKETS OF THEIR CEO'S, AND VICE-PRESIDENTS TO THE VICE PRESIDENTS. AS FAR AS MATCHING A REPORTED MISSING PERSON WITH UNIDENTIFIED BODIES, IF THIS IS REALLY BEING DONE AS YOU DESCRIBE, WONDERFUL; HOWEVER, LET ME RELATE AN INCIDENT INVOLVING A FAMILY WITH A MISSING CHILD. JENNIFER'S LAW IS NAMED AFTER THIS CHILD. JENNIFER'S LAW WAS CREATED BY HER FAMILY MEMBERS, WHO WROTE IT SO EVERY CORONER IN THE U.S. IS "REQUIRED" TO CROSS REFERENCE ANY UNIDENTIFIED BODY (A JOHN OR JANE DOE) WITH THE MISSING PERSON DATA BASE (NCIC). WHEN THE LAW WAS PASSED POLITICIANS WATERED DOWN THE LANGUAGE, CHANGING "REQUIRED" TO "SUGGESTED" (THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CAUSE A LOT OF EXTRA WORK FOR THOSE RESPONSIBLE). MANY FAMILIES HAVE SUBMITTED DNA SAMPLES SO "LONG TERM" MISSING COULD BE CROSS-REFERENCED WITH LONG TIME DECEASED JOHN/JANE DOES (ONE ARTICLE I READ STATED OVER 3,000 UNIDENTIFIED BODIES WERE BURIED IN POTTER'S GRAVES (IN ONE YEAR, IN NY ALONE) - WITH OUT ANY CROSS REFERENCE DONE. THAT'S WHY JENNIFER'S FAMILY AND THE OTHER FAMILIES WITH A MISSING LOVED ONE CREATED THE F.O.C.U.S. ORG. AND CREATED JENNIFER'S LAW. HOW MANY PEOPLE REPORTED AS MISSING WERE BURIED AS JOHN/JANE DOES WITHOUT ANY CROSS REFERENCE? SOME FAMILIES WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR MISSING CHILD. RECENTLY, A "JANE DOE" WAS FOUND IN CA, AND A WATCHDOG GROUP CONTACTED THE COUNTY WHERE JENNIFER VANISHED FROM. THEY "SUGGESTED" A CROSS REFERENCE BE DONE TO SEE IF IT MIGHT BE JENNIFER. THE COUNTY OFFICIAL SAID, "THAT CASE WAS CLOSED YEARS AGO, JENNIFER IS NOT LISTED AS MISSING" - A TOTAL LIE. HOW DO YOU THINK JENNIFERS MOTHER, HER FAMILY, FELT WHEN THEY HEARD THAT? OF COURSE,, WHEN JENNIFER VANISHED UNDER VERY SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE EARLY 90'S HER FAMILY FLEW TO CA FROM NY AND ASKED LE IF THEY COULD HELP BY BEING "INVESTIGATIVE PARTNERS", AND WHAT THEY COULD DO TO HELP WITH THE INVESTIGATION. THEY LATER FOUND OUT THE WERE CALLED "TROUBLE MAKERS" AND A LOT OF WHAT THE NCMEC SPENDS TRAINING AND EDUCATING LE TO DO IN A MISSING PERSON CASE WAS NOT DONE. THE WOMAN WHO "SUGGESTED" A CROSS REFERENCE BE DONE TO SEE IF THERE WAS A MATCH WITH JENNIFER, APPARENTLY, WAS ALSO A NUISANCE AND TROUBLE MAKER SO THEY BRUSHED HER OFF BY SAYING THE CASE HAD BEEN SOLVED. IT'S GREAT YOU GOT YOUR CAR BACK IN 45 MINUTES, WHEN THEY USED THIS PROGRAM, AND I'M SURE IT'S NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT AND I REALIZE THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE RUN BY HUMANS SO THEY DON'T ALWAYS WORK ACCORDING TO HOYLE; HOWEVER, THIS WASN'T AN ISOLATED CASE EITHER.

AS FAR AS EASING UP ON THE AGENCIES WE'RE DEALING WITH AND WORKING WITH THE LIASON OF THOSE AGENCIES, NOT BEING A PEST, AND NOT FIGHTING WITH THE AGENCIES WE'RE WORKING WITH - FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS WE'VE BEEN SENDING REGISTERED LETTERS, E-MAILS, AND PHONING EVERY "ELECTED POLITICIAN" (INCLUDING GEORGE W), AND EVERY FED AGENCY RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THESE FED PROGRAMS, JUST TRYING TO LET THEM KNOW THERE'S A SIMPLE MANAGEMENT COMMUNICATION MALFUNCTION (AND THIS APPLIES TO MANY OF THE FED PROGRAMS, LAWS, AND PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDUMS PERTAINING TO MISSING PERSONS) AND THEY REALLY NEED TO BE FIXED SO THEY OPERATE AT THE LEVEL OF EFFICIENCY THEY WERE INTENDED, SO THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL FOR FINDING A MISSING PERSON AND FOR PREVENTING CHILD ABDUCTIONS IS UTILIZED.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA ABOUT PRINTING UP A LITTLE BOOK WITH MISSING PERSON PHOTO ID'S FOR PEOPLE TO PICK UP AND READ. THERE IS A "HOTEL/MOTEL DISCOUNT GUIDE" AVAILABLE FOR FREE THAT INCLUDES SEVERAL MISSING PERSON PHOTO ID'S IN EACH OF THEIR PRINTINGS. THERE SHOULD BE MORE SIMILAR TO THAT, SOMEONE WITH THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES ARE ENCOURAGED TOO. F.O.C.U.S. ORG IS RUN BY A GROUP OF FAMILIES WITH A MISSING CHILD AND A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS (NOBODY RECEIVES ANY TYPE PAY OR COMPENSATION). 100% OF THE PUBLIC DONATED MONEY WE RAISE AT COUNTY FAIRS, OR OTHER PUBLIC SUPPORTED DONATIONS, GO DIRECTLY INTO THE PROGRAMS WE'VE CREATED AND DEVELOPED (SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE MODELED EXACTLY AFTER THE FED NATIONAL PROGRAMS; HOWEVER, OURS HAVE BEEN REFINED AND IMPROVED AND OPERATE AT A HIGHER EFFICIENCY LEVEL THAN ORIGINALLY INTENDED. AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT, SUPPORT, AND SUGGESTIONS; AND, PLEASE THE NEXT TIME YOU GO INTO A POST OFFICE WALK AROUND THE LOBBY AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY "MISSING CHILD POSTAL BULLETIN" NOTICES DISPLAYED AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU FOUND (INCLUDE P.O. ZIP, HOW MANY FLYERS ON DISPLAY, AND MONTH AND YEAR THEY WERE PRINTED). IF WE START WITH THIS ONE PROGRAM ("CHILD ALERT PROGRAM") AND GET IT FIXED, WHO KNOWS WHERE IT MIGHT LEAD - AND BELIEVE ME IF THIS PROGRAM IS FIXED THE AMBER ALERT, WHICH IS ALREADY A FANTASTIC TOOL, WILL ALSO BE IMPROVED AND EVEN MORE EFFICIENT.