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Thats horrible Jess

SuzyB;641656 wrote: Thats horrible Jess


o so sorry

I think this guy's pretty funny, the e - bay song's the best & his like a virgin / surgeon's pretty good too :wah:

Okay, I thought the taco man was talking about Chinese. Whew.

I thought it was another FG euphemism for something dirty.....:sneaky:

the song is hilarious.

had to change the title though, LG

koan;641771 wrote: the song is hilarious.

had to change the title though, LG


it is only racist if it is used in a derogertive sence

chinese food is often refurd to as the title of this

thread so feel you had no right or basis to alter it

el guapo;641886 wrote: it is only racist if it is used in a derogertive sence

chinese food is often refurd to as the title of this

thread so feel you had no right or basis to alter it


In the United Kingdom, a chinky (alternatively known as a chinky chonky[1]) is a Chinese takeaway restaurant, or the meal that one buys from such a restaurant. The name "chinky" is the adjectival form of chink, and like chink is an ethnic slur for Chinese people.[2] After several campaigns by the Scottish Executive, more people in Scotland now acknowledge that this name is indirectly racialist.[3] However the BBC Broadcasting Standards Commission held in 2002 that when used as the name of a type of restaurant or meal, rather than as an adjective applied to a person or group of people, the word carries no racialist connotation.[4] These restaurants are known for serving food that no native of China would recognize as Chinese food.[5] Stereotypically, their food is cheap, and the restaurants themselves the subjects of popular prejudice that, according to Gill,[6] makes it "difficult to improve the quality and sophistication of the dishes, or to charge more".



so i can see nothing wrong with title

el guapo;641900 wrote: In the United Kingdom, a chinky (alternatively known as a chinky chonky[1]) is a Chinese takeaway restaurant, or the meal that one buys from such a restaurant. The name "chinky" is the adjectival form of chink, and like chink is an ethnic slur for Chinese people.[2] After several campaigns by the Scottish Executive, more people in Scotland now acknowledge that this name is indirectly racialist.[3] However the BBC Broadcasting Standards Commission held in 2002 that when used as the name of a type of restaurant or meal, rather than as an adjective applied to a person or group of people, the word carries no racialist connotation.[4] These restaurants are known for serving food that no native of China would recognize as Chinese food.[5] Stereotypically, their food is cheap, and the restaurants themselves the subjects of popular prejudice that, according to Gill,[6] makes it "difficult to improve the quality and sophistication of the dishes, or to charge more".



so i can see nothing wrong with title


It appears to be a split opinion on the matter.

Ultimately it is up to the mods if we consider the word offensive.

I'm not saying you meant to use it as a slur. I'm just saying you used a word that FG isn't friendly with.

Yeah El Burrito. That would be like saying Canuck food. Ooops.

Soberano;641942 wrote: I'm with you on this one YZGI, you wouldn't say lets go for a woppy if you were off to an Italian restaurant would you. Behave el guapo.:wah:
If Chinese = Chinky does that mean British= Britney

nevertheless I love parody and the song linked to in the OP is really funny. I ended up singing the real version while I was out watering the plants

koan;641945 wrote: nevertheless I love parody and the song linked to in the OP is really funny. I ended up singing the real version while I was out watering the plants
Marijuana plants I presume.

we've had a few storms pass through but not enough to keep the flowers from drooping without some gardening assistance.

Soberano;641955 wrote: I thought i might swim out and have a look at mine tomorrow.


It's raining here again, maybe you ought to wait, they'll float in to you tomorrow!

Soberano;641942 wrote: I'm with you on this one YZGI, you wouldn't say lets go for a woppy if you were off to an Italian restaurant would you. Behave el guapo.:wah:


Well I for one have never heard of anyone going to the "Chinese Resteraunt" unless their taking a client - it's always going for a chinky even in those who would be aghast if anyone call a Chinese person that.

Soberano;641995 wrote: I go to a Chinese restaurant, not a chinky. No wait, i dont eat that crap anyhow, forget that.
Same here, I don't have the Chinese food gene nor do I have the sweet gene.

Bryn Mawr;641964 wrote: Well I for one have never heard of anyone going to the "Chinese Resteraunt" unless their taking a client - it's always going for a chinky even in those who would be aghast if anyone call a Chinese person that.


In N America we say going out for Chinese or Chinese take out.

I don't doubt that it was used in a non racist way but it doesn't change that this is a multinational board and just because the adaptation of the slur has been adopted by the UK as acceptable doesn't mean that it isn't a slur to the rest of the world. It's about the word not the person who used it.

koan;642016 wrote: In N America we say going out for Chinese or Chinese take out.

I don't doubt that it was used in a non racist way but it doesn't change that this is a multinational board and just because the adaptation of the slur has been adopted by the UK as acceptable doesn't mean that it isn't a slur to the rest of the world. It's about the word not the person who used it.


cant agree there in respect to food it is not an ethenic slur sorry but ya wrong

ya qoute wilkpedia but that states in food the word chinky is in no way racist

el guapo;642268 wrote: cant agree there in respect to food it is not an ethenic slur sorry but ya wrong

ya qoute wilkpedia but that states in food the word chinky is in no way racist


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz= ... tnG=Search

There's no definition for Chinky, and considering the topic I'm guessing you weren't referencing that of a crack or a sound so I wouldn't be so quick in deeming people wrong...

Besides she's already voiced her reasoning on the fact that she felt that what had been posted didn't reflect the integrity of ForumGarden...

K.Snyder;642272 wrote: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz= ... tnG=Search

There's no definition for Chinky, and considering the topic I'm guessing you weren't referencing that of a crack or a sound so I wouldn't be so quick in deeming people wrong...


I take that back...

There is a definition for Chinky...



AVOID. A derogatory term for a Chinese person, also Chinkey, Chinkie, Chinky. The term is thought to have come from a mispronunciation of the Chinese word Chung-Kuo, meaning China.

el guapo;642268 wrote: cant agree there in respect to food it is not an ethenic slur sorry but ya wrong

ya qoute wilkpedia but that states in food the word chinky is in no way racist


The Oxford English Dictionary is quite explicit about acceptable usage.

Chink, noun: A Chinaman. Also attributed (Derogatory).

Chinkey, Chinkie, Chinky = Chink, noun (Derogatory).

Chinese, adjective and noun, colloquial (chiefly British): A meal served at a Chinese restaurant; (also) a Chinese takeaway meal. A restaurant serving Chinese food.examples:

1985 Washington Post 13 Jan: That night, a Friday, we gathered in front of the set..with take-out Chinese.

1997 Sunday Post (Glasgow) 4 May: We sort of exist on takeaways. There's a Chinese and a new Indian just opened down the road.

YZGI;641996 wrote: Same here, I don't have the Chinese food gene nor do I have the sweet gene.


you have to try my favorite buffet place if you ever visit San Antonio! And if you hate everything they do have a BBQ section with steaks, etc. so it's all good!

sunny104;642372 wrote: you have to try my favorite buffet place if you ever visit San Antonio! And if you hate everything they do have a BBQ section with steaks, etc. so it's all good!


I want to try :yh_drool :yh_drool

if you go for a tex mex is that offensive to wise guy and pals





snigger

You could have just changed the title to 'weird al yankovic video' would have saved a lot of trouble.

jimbo;642377 wrote: if you go for a tex mex is that offensive to wise guy and pals





snigger
My point was. Nothing is offensive to me.

buttercup;642396 wrote: You could have just changed the title to 'weird al yankovic video' would have saved a lot of trouble.




the fingers still trouble you then :wah: :wah:

SuzyB;642374 wrote: I want to try :yh_drool :yh_drool


oh, you'd have to!! I LOVE this place, they have everything! :yh_drool

if the title of this thread seemed racist was not ment too

now there is a but it is a common way of refuring to a chinese take away

so i cannot see y it had to be changed

this forum has people from all over the world we all use english here mostly but with differant areas twist on it next we will all be correcting the most innocent post

cheers for ya words in the chinese tread it just koan having a go at me again

im not well liked here she is just trying to make things worse

el guapo;642461 wrote: cheers for ya words in the chinese tread it just koan having a go at me again



im not well liked here she is just trying to make things worse
Calm down El Gumpo, You are taking this way too seriously. It aint no big deal one way or the other. Trust me there are better fights more worth it than this. Besides if we get the China persons after us they could send 1 billion soldiers to wipe us out and not even miss them.:wah:

el guapo;642461 wrote: cheers for ya words in the chinese tread it just koan having a go at me again

im not well liked here she is just trying to make things worseThat's quite unjustified. She made a perfectly good call in my opinion.

I'll copy this from our PMs since it's relevant and you're continuing to push the issue regardless of other comment:If you have a look at a more recent report like http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/rad...r/language.pdf (OFCOM's Language and Sexual Imagery in Broadcasting: A contextual Investigation) you'll find this, which might explain why some people think one way and some another:Chink: A term of racial offence/abuse. However, this is polarising. Older and mainly white groups tend to think this is not usually used in an abusive way - e.g. let's go to the Chinky - which is not seen as offensive; younger groups and those from ethnic minorities feel this could be as insulting as 'paki' or 'nigger'.The site rules say "Please do not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, or otherwise violative of any local or international laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not".

"Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not" is the key phrase there.

spot;642469 wrote: That's quite unjustified. She made a perfectly good call in my opinion.

I'll copy this from our PMs since it's relevant and you're continuing to push the issue regardless of other comment:If you have a look at a more recent report like http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/rad...r/language.pdf (OFCOM's Language and Sexual Imagery in Broadcasting: A contextual Investigation) you'll find this, which might explain why some people think one way and some another:Chink: A term of racial offence/abuse. However, this is polarising. Older and mainly white groups tend to think this is not usually used in an abusive way - e.g. let's go to the Chinky - which is not seen as offensive; younger groups and those from ethnic minorities feel this could be as insulting as 'paki' or 'nigger'.The site rules say "Please do not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, or otherwise violative of any local or international laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not".

"Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not" is the key phrase there.


she made a big deal of some thing that was not last post i here was ment to be pm to some one but pc is playing up could not deleate it

as ya post ya rule ya wana check out some other posts on here

el guapo;642475 wrote: she made a big deal of some thing that was not last post i here was ment to be pm to some one but pc is playing up could not deleate it

as ya post ya rule ya wana check out some other posts on here
Report any and all that you see. Each will be looked at by whatever mod is active at the time.

also if you think i was being racist ban me

el guapo;642477 wrote: also if you think i was being racist ban me
Get an El Grippo dude. Not a big deal.

el guapo;642477 wrote: also if you think i was being racist ban me


We have a graded response with several options. Banning is the most severe. Infractions are milder, warnings milder still. Editing to remove exceptional content is the mildest of the lot. Continually arguing with the referee probably rates an infraction eventually, if that's helpful.

YZGI;642480 wrote: Get an El Grippo dude.


that's private!



but yeah, I agree! no biggie, if we were that PC we'd all be banned!! :wah:

spot;642484 wrote: We have a graded response with several options. Banning is the most severe. Infractions are milder, warnings milder still. Editing to remove exceptional content is the mildest of the lot. Continually arguing with the referee probably rates an infraction eventually, if that's helpful.
Was that a yellow card?

guys this is all getting out of hand ,honestly people does it really matter ,jess i know it was not meant as a ray shawl slur and the mods know that but if they feel it might offend someone they can change it ,i've had loads of things changed and posts deleted and been asked to change siggy things its not personal buddy





its the rules ,these rules are made so that people like me yzgi and soberanal are protected from ourselves we could post stuff we find funny but others could get really upset over



that said the thread was funny





had me spring rolling up



i know you did not chow mien to offend any one but you had better learn to crispy duck when the flack starts frying :wah:

These things can go either way. They can be sweet and sour at times.

I persionally used too say 'going for a chinky' when talking about getting a chinese take-away. I never used the term as being offensive - nor is anyone else here as far as I can make out.

At the end of the day, if it is likely to offend someone then probably best not to use term. Mods call at the end of the day.