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In November of this year, and for the whole of 2007, all the way up to 2012, there is a very major cycle thats going to begin. And it's the coming in of the planet Pluto.

In November of this year, Pluto will be crossing Galactic Center and channeling energy from the center of the Galaxy. And that's in Late Sagitarrius.

Pluto, also known as the planet of destruction (deconstruction) and radical change, will be crossing Galactic Center and channeling that energy from the Central Sun, beginning in November of this year (2007).

Pluto is presently approximately 24 degrees of Sagittarius. When it moves into Capricorn, the sign of order and government, ect., it augurs in cataclysmic upheavals and exposure of all corruption, in order to restore harmony, and a higher way of being. Individual lives will also dramatically transform. Pluto comes to check psychic immunity and brings in a deep cleansing cycle. It is nature's psychic surgeon.

Pluto moves very slowly and therefore has a very dramatic effect on the Human Psyche and Civilizations.

As it approaches, it's going to get stronger and stronger like a dimmer turning up.

Pluto is connected with psychology. It was discovered in 1930, but it had been searched for at about 1900. Exactly the time that Sigmund Freud, the Austrian psychiatrist, and founder of psychoanalysis, started writing and releasing and publishing his works.

Pluto is very much the ruler of psychology. The word Sanity comes from the same root as the word Sanitize. Because what Pluto will do for all of us is to help Sanitize our minds from all the pollution we have been receiving.

The nature of Pluto is similar to that of the Hindu "god" Shiva. Pluto usually begins by breaking down a structure, and then creates a new one in its place. The entire of cycle of death, destruction and renovation is accompanied by tremendous powers, for Pluto is not a mild or even very subtle planetary influence. It brings decay at one level or another.

Pluto also rules the death and regeneration of the Self, as old aspects of your life pass away. Pluto does not represent death in the literal sense, instead it refers to a metaphorical death, or something that ceases to be.

Now this kind of post I can get into. Thanks.

RedGlitter;651843 wrote: Now this kind of post I can get into. Thanks.


No problem.

The planet Pluto rules when the Sun goes into the Winter seasonal cycle. And it's the same thing psychologically. Pluto rules what is known as the UnderWorld cycle in Alchemy or Psychology. And of course we all go through the UnderWorld cycle, whether we know about Astrology or not. It's often been called "The Dark Night of the Soul".

Carl Gustav Jung, the Swiss psychiatrist, said that, "The foundation of all mental illness is the unwillingness to experience legitimate suffering." And very soon Pluto is going to force us all to do just that. To face the deepest darkest corners of ourselves.

Cornel West once said that, "Sometimes it takes more courage to be yourself and to look at all the dark corners of yourself, than it does to fight on the battlefield."

Because we resist a certain amount of looking at the darkside, especially within ourselves, and of our unwillingness to do so, we suffer mental distress. It's our unwholesome unwillingness to do that which can cause us to become what we fear most. And the same goes for those around us.

And remember, all of us are going to have to go through this "UnderWorld" cycle, just as the Sun has to go through it's cycles of seasons. There will be no escaping it. We will all feel it's effects. The only difference is that you can decide to do it of your own free will, or you can be dragged.

The hanged man of the tarot has a smile on his lips. This symbolizes the willingless of Humanity to go through this deep cleansing cycle. After all, nobody forced Buddha to sit down in front of the tree and contemplate the meaning of Life. He chose to do it on his own free-will.

You must willingly be crucified inside yourself and die on the inside to be reborn again. It's not that suffering is good, suffering has been built into the Universe you're going to have it just like you have pleasure. Suffering is not the problem. The resistance to it is the problem. To not be able to accept it for what it is. Thats the problem.

Countries go through these great cycles. Seasons go through them, and so does the Human Psyche. And in psychological terms, Pluto represents what is known as the "Shadow Self". This is what we will all be dealing with as Pluto completes it's cycle during this next 5 years.

How do you reconcile that Pluto is no longer designated as a planet anymore?

guys please tell me its not just me that thinks just coz a rock is coming a bit nearer to us than normal it does not follow that all this gloom and doom will happen :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

TruthBringer;651839 wrote: Pluto moves very slowly and therefore has a very dramatic effect on the Human Psyche and Civilizations.






No, it doesn't.

My grandma moves very slowly, and she has a very dramatic effect on the Human Psyche and Civilizations when she holds up traffic as she crosses the street.

A big snowball like Pluto in the far flung reaches of the solar system is of no consequence to the Earth.

Now, a comet on the other hand, can be a dangerous customer, but now we're talking about the science of astronomy, rather than the superstitions of astrology.

It doesn't matter what science tries to say about Pluto not being a planet folks. The Ancients have been watching it for thousands upon thousands of years. And Astrologers will never take it out of their studies. It is the planet that governs Scorpio. That's not going to change.

We will start to get close up photos of Pluto and Charon very soon. NASA's New Horizon spacecraft has been flying toward Pluto and Charon for 530 days.

Pluto and Charon are surrounded by other little moons in orbit. Here's the best ever image of Pluto and Charon snapped by the Hubble Space Telescope:



A more recent image that shows little moonlets in orbit around Pluto and Charon:



In Greek mythology, Pluto is the name given to Hades. And Charon is the ferryman who conveyed the dead to Hades over the river Styx.

"The Shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort."

- Carl Jung

Jung's Practice Of Analysis

Jung and Buddhism

:-6

The dark aspects of the personal psyche which threaten the ego's autonomy, and its vision of itself, are repressed. The Shadow is the sum of all that we loathe about our own selves.

This content is subconsciously projected onto others, who become external representatives of our personal Shadow Selves.

In extreme cases we also process this content through the field of other oblivious victims.

Additionally, there is the Collective Psyche and its "dark content" which is, at certain times, likewise projected.

The approach of Pluto arouses fear, paranoia, and the whole cocktail of darker toxic emotions. These effects can confuse and threaten both protagonist and antagonist.

Subsequently, individuals feel deeply insecure and as a result tend to cleave even more vehemently to the known and familiar "Saturnian" archetypes.

Richard Bell;652044 wrote: No, it doesn't.

My grandma moves very slowly, and she has a very dramatic effect on the Human Psyche and Civilizations when she holds up traffic as she crosses the street.

A big snowball like Pluto in the far flung reaches of the solar system is of no consequence to the Earth.

Now, a comet on the other hand, can be a dangerous customer, but now we're talking about the science of astronomy, rather than the superstitions of astrology.


With no offense meant to the original poster of this thread, I think I can safely say I've likely just had the biggest laugh I can expect today. Thanks! :wah:

TruthBringer;652732 wrote: It doesn't matter what science tries to say about Pluto not being a planet folks. The Ancients have been watching it for thousands upon thousands of years. And Astrologers will never take it out of their studies. It is the planet that governs Scorpio. That's not going to change.


I thought Clyde Tombaugh discovered it in 1930...........................the ancients knew nothing about the "planet."

chonsigirl;655485 wrote: I thought Clyde Tombaugh discovered it in 1930...........................the ancients knew nothing about the "planet."


I guarantee you that the Ancients did know of the planet Pluto.

You seem to be assuming that they were lowly advanced in technology. I believe different.

Either way, at certain periods of time, Pluto should be visible by the naked eye. As far as I know anyways.....

TruthBringer;656103 wrote: I guarantee you that the Ancients did know of the planet Pluto.

You seem to be assuming that they were lowly advanced in technology. I believe different.

Either way, at certain periods of time, Pluto should be visible by the naked eye. As far as I know anyways.....


Nope.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mjpowell/A ... .htm#Pluto

Not to be argumentative. I'm just sayin'.

I, Rob;656108 wrote: Nope.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mjpowell/A ... .htm#Pluto

Not to be argumentative. I'm just sayin'.


I appreciate the info Rob. Again I stand corrected. When it comes to the naked eye part anyways. lol. I'm not giving up so easy on the technology part. Because I truly believe they had a way to look at Pluto. For crying out loud, these people had the ability to map ancient antarctica to the t. So a telescope? Not so much a stretch eh?

Anyways, it makes sense. Pluto is the ruler of Scorpio. Scorpios are known to be very secretive people. The last thing they want to be is "out in the open" with all of their secrets. So this makes sense that Pluto would be a "hider" when it comes to sight. In fact, I think it was meant that way.

I've dated Scorpios, I've had many Scorpio encounters and friends, hell, my sister is part Scorpio. So I know alot about them. And I can tell you that if there was any planet that would want to stay hidden, it would be Pluto.

Sometimes life humbles us all though. So I definately get enjoyment from being wrong (about the naked eye thing). See, my theory is, just when you think you have it all figured out, thats when life beats the living **** out of you until you mercifully admit that you still have more to learn. lol. It's what I've noticed anyways. =)

I'm only 24 though. And alot of the time I am able to feel out the Truth. When I fail, it excites me, because I realise that I still have room for growth. And you know what? Thats a good thing. Who the hell wants to live in a place where nobody has anything left to learn? And everybody thinks they know all? Not my idea of a good place....maybe for some people...but not me. =)~

Anyways, thanks again. You helped put Pluto into more perspective for me. But I promise you folks, whether I was wrong about the naked eye or not, Pluto is going to be playing an extreme role for all of us in the coming 6 years. And if you have an open enough mind, you won't judge that just yet. You will sit back, experience the next 6 years, and then come to your own conclusion. =)

every particle in the universe has a consequence on the Earth. you ever try to split an atom? to discount anything as having no consequence on our planet illustrates your naivete.

mmolina;1357764 wrote: every particle in the universe has a consequence on the Earth. you ever try to split an atom? to discount anything as having no consequence on our planet illustrates your naivete.


Perhaps you'd like to decipher "Pluto will be crossing Galactic Center and channeling energy from the center of the Galaxy" for me then, because my command of English is inadequate to extract any meaning from the sentence whatsoever. The bit after the "and", please. Particularly the words "channeling", "energy" in this context, and "from".

They're from the opening post of the thread, if you want their context.