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I am going to pour my heart out, and make an ass of myself. That is what I am known for here.. The all american major emmotional sap corn ball....

Its interesting how one thread leads to another,

The for anyone whose lost someone thread.... got me listening to songs written by Elton John. Funeral for a friend.. Sacrifice.. Candle in the wind. Im still standing. Timeless pieces of music. Written by this incredible, eccentric genius. whom I have always loved. We all know he is gay. He wouldnt mind me mentioning that here. He got me to thinking of all the creative, wonderful, loving friends that is has been my privledge to know, over the years who are gay. Some are deceased. One was godfather to my youngest son. Another was a man who shaped my career in the flower business. He worked on building my self esteem, and pushed me into public speaking when I was only 20 years old. I think Ive had relationships with tormented closeted gay men. I strongly believe that a very close family member.. whom I love with my whole heart is struggling to identify his sexuality. I just want to take a stand.. publicly, openly and strongly... im memory of those I have loved and lost... or those still in my life now, who are homosexuals.. That it hurts me deeply whenever a thread starts regarding this most private issue.. that should be noones business but theirs.

I loathe the dispariging remarks made about homosexuals. And the remarks made under the guise of religious interpertation make my skin crawl. It has been an unexpected experience for me these past couple of years, to have felt indescribibly lonely. I didnt think that was a feeling I would ever experience. I will tell you this, having had the good fortune to observe a few very happy couples. I dont really care anymore if it be man, woman, dog,

or bird.... if the opportunity presents itself to give and receive love... Im there!!!!!! Ive been polite, Ive been low key. I am telling you wake up and smell the coffee. As I said in the other " Homo" thread. God made all of us.. and he doesnt make mistakes. Thank You for your patience

live and let live

ok sister

Sorry,,, Just forget it. I get carried away. Funeral for a friend did it.

You haven't made an ass of yourself, Weeder, or even remotely close. You never have here. Funerals will bring out emotions that's for sure but your words are wise just the same.

Jesse's right- live and let live. If people would all just do that.

and reds right that im right thats right red



ps that gave me a head acre

Funeral for a friend is one of the most amazing, if not the most amazing ej track...and Grey Seal

Not an ass at all weeder!



People are People & are just People, no matter!

An ass not at all

It should feel good to vent - I'm glad you did.

I've worked with some Gay men - it was the best working enviornment, great job.

Patsy

Now.... these replys have made me cry. That good kind of cleansing crying. It is so good to know that there are those of you out there... who are kindred spirits. Hey Jackie !!!! Love you:-4

This is a "No Ass" thread, basically. No worries, weeder.

My brother married a wonderful girl and they had 2 beautiful children. They got married young. My brother was living with my Step-Dad, as my Mum died, and my Step-Dad was getting remarried, it was a difficult situation for my brother so he had to leave. Sarah, his wife had only just found out that she was adopted and her life was in a turmoil. They got married and had my niece and nephew, now 13 yrs and 9 yrs. After years of a troubled marriage they decided to go their seperate ways. This is when my brother realised he was gay. I am relieved that he has now worked out what was wrong in his life - he was struggling. Trouble is it left my Sister-in-Law in a state and she is now struggling with her own life.

The problem also is he has so many guilt issues, towards his children - for having a gay father. To Sarah (is ex) for thinking he ruined her life. He now has a great partner, him and Andy, have in one way found a good life, but also found out how cruel people can be. Towards them, they say they can deal with that. But to the children they cannot cope with. Why do people have to be so f-ing cruel!!

To Sarah, you are a wonderful Mum and I am proud to call you my sister :-4

To Danielle and Jake, you know Mummy and Daddy love you with all their hearts. :-4

To Andy and Paul (my brother), be strong, you can get through this. :-4

To those who are cruel to gays, please live and let live - they are not harming you:-4

I have often suggested... here, over the years, that people look for the old movie.. Torch Song Trilogy. With Harvey Feinstein and Matthew Brodderick. It is impossible for it not to be an eye opener.. or at least food for thought, for those afflicted with the disease called homophobism.... which really is just an exaggerated case of fear. I think the worst thing about living a life colored by the amazing and incredible prescence of homosexuals, is the heartache of falling in love with them. Because they are often so very special and so very real.

People pick and choose what they quote from the Bible. The same man who says being gay is a sin also looks at a woman with lust in his heart, lies to someone, commits adultery, covets his neighbors wife, and breaks numerous other Biblical "rules" day after day. They also allow hate to sit and stagnate in their hearts; then claim to be the representatives for all of Christendom. They also judge even though it says "Judge not lest ye be judged with the same as you have meted upon others". False prophets is all, pharisees.

Hi, I know im new here, and mabey shouldnt reply as i dont know you, but no way did you or have you made an ass of yourself as i see it. Every word you said came from the heart and they are the truest words spoken of all.

Gay, straight what does it matter as long as we all have our morals in the right place. I have known friends of mine who are gay and beleive me when i say they are the best friends a person could have. As long as they have the right morals too, then everyone should just get on fine. Weeder i like your ramblings, sorry to hear about your friends death, i hope you will feel better soon.

hey weeder,no way have you made a jimbo outa yourself





i have some gay friends andthey are some of the nicest people on earth .so their brains are wired a bit different from ours so what ...:-6



sorry to hear of your friends death its never easy in life is it ,i have the same problem with my son as you do yours oh well life goes on ...:-6