My feelings about terrorist strikes
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:32 pm
magenta flame;692858 wrote: Although I understand the sentiment that peole are offering about the 9/11 attacks it seems that I'm having my life dictated by it . Personally I don't feel commemorating, or minutes silence over the internet is a very good way of commorating a tragedy.
I believe if you know someone who was involved in any terrorist strike be it Bali the US, Nairobi, Germany, Ireland or any other country, then sit with them, or think of them in their hour of need. But to put it on the internet is only congradulating the handiwork of the terrorists themselves. They want you to commemorate the incident, they want you to remember the devastation they created. AND, they want you to fear them. It plays right into their hands.
I will be contacting a few friends today that were involved and so will my husband, but to publicly announce a minutes silence is almost insincere. What is to be accomplised in doing this? (Are there people on this board that were there? If so then my thoughts are with you personally) BUT to everyone else it would be a tribute to nothingness. As I said in a previous post, have any of you given a thought about any other country or it's citizens when devastation has hit them? Have you yourselves given a minutes silence to those people?
Most likely not. So here is a list for everyone to ponder.
And if you feel that you shouldn't have to think of everyone else around the world then don't ask everyone else to think of you.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255i.html
The US number looks high but that is the number collated from three seperate strikes, which is equal to the devastation of other individual strikes around the world.
You have an announcement from Osama in another thread. Do you really believe he gives a toss about American citizens? From the transcript I would think not. You aren't going to drown him out with sentiments and tributes. He wants you to remember and that's why he chooses now to make his statement.
You may not like this post but it's an honest summing up of my thoughts. I'd preferrably like to think of others around the world that when terror or mayhem hits them they don't have any back up, or social services or charity organisations and they don't use a terrorist strike as an excuse to go to war. And keep using the memory of that day to justisfy it years later.
Magenta, you're right, I don't like what you have said but I will tell you why in a respectful manner since you seem to be trying to as well.
First, I will observe the silence because you, I am sure, know how patriotic I am. I did not have to be there. Everyone there, by the sheer nature of human compassion, became a part of me the minute the first plane hit.
I think by presuming Americans are not interested or familiar with other world tragedies is shortsighted at best. I also sense a bit of disrespect in this. If you choose not to observe or honor or whatever word fits, then you have that right. Nobody is trying to force you or anyone else to do anything. But to make such a show of your disdain for the idea at the anniversary of mass slaughter by evil, comes across to me as soapboxing and this is not an acceptable time for that.
People will commemorate in whatever way they feel suits them best. I will do my own thing as will many others, no doubt. But here on the net, we are limited as a group as to how we will honor this loss of life and there was no harm whatsoever in a moment of silence being suggested. It won't change the world and it doesn't have to. It's for them. It's for us. And that's enough.
Hear me when I say as a whole we don't give a rip what ASSama thinks about a damned thing. Our tributes are not for him. I'm not sure where you would get that idea.
If you want to do something for the world's other causes and events then feel free to do so. But let's not compare tragedies.
Allow the rest of us to commemorate our dead in the ways we see fit.
I believe if you know someone who was involved in any terrorist strike be it Bali the US, Nairobi, Germany, Ireland or any other country, then sit with them, or think of them in their hour of need. But to put it on the internet is only congradulating the handiwork of the terrorists themselves. They want you to commemorate the incident, they want you to remember the devastation they created. AND, they want you to fear them. It plays right into their hands.
I will be contacting a few friends today that were involved and so will my husband, but to publicly announce a minutes silence is almost insincere. What is to be accomplised in doing this? (Are there people on this board that were there? If so then my thoughts are with you personally) BUT to everyone else it would be a tribute to nothingness. As I said in a previous post, have any of you given a thought about any other country or it's citizens when devastation has hit them? Have you yourselves given a minutes silence to those people?
Most likely not. So here is a list for everyone to ponder.
And if you feel that you shouldn't have to think of everyone else around the world then don't ask everyone else to think of you.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255i.html
The US number looks high but that is the number collated from three seperate strikes, which is equal to the devastation of other individual strikes around the world.
You have an announcement from Osama in another thread. Do you really believe he gives a toss about American citizens? From the transcript I would think not. You aren't going to drown him out with sentiments and tributes. He wants you to remember and that's why he chooses now to make his statement.
You may not like this post but it's an honest summing up of my thoughts. I'd preferrably like to think of others around the world that when terror or mayhem hits them they don't have any back up, or social services or charity organisations and they don't use a terrorist strike as an excuse to go to war. And keep using the memory of that day to justisfy it years later.
Magenta, you're right, I don't like what you have said but I will tell you why in a respectful manner since you seem to be trying to as well.
First, I will observe the silence because you, I am sure, know how patriotic I am. I did not have to be there. Everyone there, by the sheer nature of human compassion, became a part of me the minute the first plane hit.
I think by presuming Americans are not interested or familiar with other world tragedies is shortsighted at best. I also sense a bit of disrespect in this. If you choose not to observe or honor or whatever word fits, then you have that right. Nobody is trying to force you or anyone else to do anything. But to make such a show of your disdain for the idea at the anniversary of mass slaughter by evil, comes across to me as soapboxing and this is not an acceptable time for that.
People will commemorate in whatever way they feel suits them best. I will do my own thing as will many others, no doubt. But here on the net, we are limited as a group as to how we will honor this loss of life and there was no harm whatsoever in a moment of silence being suggested. It won't change the world and it doesn't have to. It's for them. It's for us. And that's enough.
Hear me when I say as a whole we don't give a rip what ASSama thinks about a damned thing. Our tributes are not for him. I'm not sure where you would get that idea.
If you want to do something for the world's other causes and events then feel free to do so. But let's not compare tragedies.
Allow the rest of us to commemorate our dead in the ways we see fit.