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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:35 am
by Imladris
I hope that you have mentioned to the person who didn't take the names out of the email how much upset and trouble this has caused you.



Asking for comments or complaints from staff is all well and good but then dropping you in it because you respond is very bad management imo.



I hope that things get better for you, generally these things have a way of working out in the end. Keep your chin up :-4

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:42 am
by Pheasy
What a difficult situation SOMEONE ELSE has put you in. The person sending the email to staff should not have included a private email sent to them by you. I would firstly, confront that person regarding their error and point out what a difficult situation they have now left you in. Secondly, by not attending the meeting or keeping your head down, you are giving others more ammo. and feedback for retaliation and bitchy remarks towards you. Its a difficult situation that you are in, but resolvable. In this situation I would talk to the people you named, individually, and point out that it was never your intention for the names to be made public and that was not your doing. Also, perhaps, talk to them about the issue you wanted bought up in the meeting, even maybe say that you realise now maybe it would of been better if you had talked to them in person before sending the email. They will either discuss this with you in a adult way or have their say about how they felt (or both). After all they probably felt very emvbarressed and hurt when seeing the email (even though that was not your fault). This will hopefully clear the air and stop the bitching behind your back.

Good luck, it's really not worth making yourself sick over.

Pheasy :-4

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:44 am
by mikeinie
It was completely irresponsible for the business to circulate the email that was sent to them, this has targeted you when you were responding in the best interest of the company. You should be furious, not remorseful, or worried about what people think of you.

You had had the courage to respond honestly, now integrity of the business comes into the equation. Stand by you email and confront those who are trying to use it against you, and confront the manager who circulated the email and demand to know how they intend to correct the situation.

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:46 am
by Indian Princess
Stardust, listen, I know what you feel, I have the same situation at work, I spoke up after seeing errors etc in the pharmacy, and I am considered the B####, and am gossiped about it's been 4 years of this, and I take Celexa just to deal with them, I have a 15 year old and I cant just up and leave, if you can find a job elsewhere I highly suggest you leave, if you cant hold your ground

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:49 am
by mikeinie
Relax, don't worry and listent to music:

Lady Stardust:


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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:33 am
by mikeinie
Stardust:




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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:56 am
by Pheasy
Indian Princess;701266 wrote: Stardust, listen, I know what you feel, I have the same situation at work, I spoke up after seeing errors etc in the pharmacy, and I am considered the B####, and am gossiped about it's been 4 years of this, and I take Celexa just to deal with them, I have a 15 year old and I cant just up and leave, if you can find a job elsewhere I highly suggest you leave, if you cant hold your ground


IP your reply saddens me greatly. I obviously do not know all the details, and my comments are based purely on what you have written here. Why would you stay in that job? If it has been 4 years since the incident, I would suggest that it is not going to change. Is it the salary keeping you there? Are you worried about references? I really don't understand why you would allow yourself to go through this torture everyday of your life. Your job makes up the major part of your life. Life is not meant to be like that, you are worth more than this. It is your life and no one, not co-workers, family or friends, should be able to control your life and make your life a misery. You mention your 15 year old, would he not rather see a happy Mummy.

I would rather work two happy jobs (to get the required salary), than spend a major chunk of my life working in that environment.

I hope you don't mind my comments, I just feel you are worth more than this, and so should you.

Love Pheasy :-4

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:30 am
by RedGlitter
I guess I see something differently from the rest in that I don't think those names should have been taken out. If you're going to talk about someone to another without the first one knowing, that just isn't right. I'd be pretty irritated about it too if I was mentioned, rather than if that person aired their grievance with me.

But I know that's not the input you're looking for here so I guess just stop hanging your head and own up to it. Mistakes happen, even if you don't consider them mistakes. It will probably blow over just fine with a little time given to it.

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:18 am
by Pheasy
RedGlitter;701371 wrote: I guess I see something differently from the rest in that I don't think those names should have been taken out. If you're going to talk about someone to another without the first one knowing, that just isn't right. I'd be pretty irritated about it too if I was mentioned, rather than if that person aired their grievance with me.

But I know that's not the input you're looking for here so I guess just stop hanging your head and own up to it. Mistakes happen, even if you don't consider them mistakes. It will probably blow over just fine with a little time given to it.


I agree Red, thats what I tried to say too. We all make mistakes (and hopefully learn by them) what she needs is advice on how to put the situation right. You would not believe the 'boo-boos' I've made in my time :wah:

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:30 am
by RedGlitter
ThePheasant;701407 wrote: I agree Red, thats what I tried to say too. We all make mistakes (and hopefully learn by them) what she needs is advice on how to put the situation right. You would not believe the 'boo-boos' I've made in my time :wah:


I'm sure I have a few whoppers of my own. :)

Own up to it. I think that's usually the best way to diffuse a bad situation. To say you were wrong if you feel you were and that you take responsibility for whatever the issue is. It won't work with everyone but most people will respect that. The others will just have to deal with it.

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:34 am
by mikeinie
RedGlitter;701371 wrote: I guess I see something differently from the rest in that I don't think those names should have been taken out. If you're going to talk about someone to another without the first one knowing, that just isn't right. I'd be pretty irritated about it too if I was mentioned, rather than if that person aired their grievance with me.

But I know that's not the input you're looking for here so I guess just stop hanging your head and own up to it. Mistakes happen, even if you don't consider them mistakes. It will probably blow over just fine with a little time given to it.


I don't agree Red, not without Stardust being advised in advance, it put her in a very unfair situation. I don't know the full situation, but there are ways of going about things. Of course issues with employees need to be addressed directly, but there are also processes around that as well. Confidence was breeched by sending the email out.

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:09 am
by RedGlitter
That's okay Mike, you don't have to agree. I'm just presenting the other view. I feel if you're going to talk behind someone's back, which seems to be what happened, then you deserve the outcome if you get caught. If I have a problem with someone, I take it up with them because that's what I would want them to do with me. I'm not picking on Stardust with my comments, if that wasn't already apparent. Whoever let the names out was also wrong. But I don't think it's fair to put all the blame on that person.

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:24 am
by Bryn Mawr
RedGlitter;701433 wrote: That's okay Mike, you don't have to agree. I'm just presenting the other view. I feel if you're going to talk behind someone's back, which seems to be what happened, then you deserve the outcome if you get caught. If I have a problem with someone, I take it up with them because that's what I would want them to do with me. I'm not picking on Stardust with my comments, if that wasn't already apparent. Whoever let the names out was also wrong. But I don't think it's fair to put all the blame on that person.


Not talking behind someone's back.

The company invited the submission of agenda items for a personell meeting so that they could prepare for it.

E-Mail sent to the company on personell matters are confidential.

By sending a copy of the e-mail out verbaitum they breached confidentiallity.

Over here = deep sh!t if it came to a Tribunral.

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:40 am
by Patsy Warnick
Why didn't you attend the meeting?

E-mail goes out - you have your views and mention a few co-workers. Then someone breaches the confidence and the attitudes start forming before the meeting.

OK - perhaps you should've held on to those certain names until the meeting -

Was this your manager who released the names from your e-mail? co-worker?

If its a manager - terrible skills on handling this situation.

Co-worker - trouble maker and should be repromanded - transferred - fired..

In the future - no names on paper..!!

I feel you should've attended the meeting.

Patsy

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:20 pm
by Indian Princess
Hey not, to worry, he never sees me cry, he knows that they are rude, but not to the extent, and no, I will never ever go somewhere else and make what I do,and the benefits, however,once he is gone and I just have myself to support, gooood bye. I am outa there. Only 3 more year. I can do that.