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driving too slowly

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:00 am
by lemon_and_mint
a woman has been taken to court by police for driving at 8 miles an hour on a motorway - limit is 70 -

she had a note in her back window saying she drove slowly because she had multiple sclerosis.

Any comments?

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:08 am
by mikeinie
Comments¦dead right I do!

I think slow drivers are every bit as dangerous as fast drivers and should not be on motorways.

If people are uncomfortable driving at normal driving speeds then they should not be on the road.

There are places that have both maximum speed limits as well as minimum, I think that is a great idea.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:11 am
by lemon_and_mint
mikeinie;753204 wrote: Comments¦dead right I do!

I think slow drivers are every bit as dangerous as fast drivers and should not be on motorways.

If people are uncomfortable driving at normal driving speeds then they should not be on the road.

There are places that have both maximum speed limits as well as minimum, I think that is a great idea.


i know that when i drive right on the speed limit - say 40, i may be doing 41 - i always have people tailgating me and beeping and generally wanting me to go faster.

I do think that 8 miles an hour is dangerous although i think that anything above 50 on a motorway (eg a caravan) is safe even though it is well under the limit, providing it sticks to the slow lane and is aware of the faster traffic.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:14 am
by Betty Boop
Hmmm difficult one, initially I thought 'Too right, damn sunday afternoon drivers' but then again what right has anyone to take away this ladies freedom?



I don't know lemon there are reasons for and against her being able to drive but the one big worry for me is, is she actually fit to be allowed to drive. :thinking:



Who makes that decision??

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:16 am
by kinks
mikeinie;753204 wrote: Comments¦dead right I do!

I think slow drivers are every bit as dangerous as fast drivers and should not be on motorways.

If people are uncomfortable driving at normal driving speeds then they should not be on the road.

There are places that have both maximum speed limits as well as minimum, I think that is a great idea.


Yeah, it's like that here....on the motorway (if you could call it that) 65km is the minimum and 100km is the maximum

I remember one time, was out in the car, and this car in front must have been doing less that 10km and they still put on their brakes to turn a corner :-5

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:24 am
by lemon_and_mint
Betty Boop;753209 wrote: Hmmm difficult one, initially I thought 'Too right, damn sunday afternoon drivers' but then again what right has anyone to take away this ladies freedom?



I don't know lemon there are reasons for and against her being able to drive but the one big worry for me is, is she actually fit to be allowed to drive. :thinking:



Who makes that decision??


I dont know but i did also think that if she is ill this may be her only way of getting out of the house, but then again if she drives in a dangerous manner should she be allowed to continue?

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:30 am
by SlipStream
lemon_and_mint;753199 wrote: a woman has been taken to court by police for driving at 8 miles an hour on a motorway - limit is 70 -

she had a note in her back window saying she drove slowly because she had multiple sclerosis.

Any comments?


all dame drivers should slow down...

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:21 am
by G#Gill
Ere Slippy, watch it matey, you could start WW3 here ---------dodgey ground there mate :wah: I could join you in battle because I am a member of the Institute of Advanced Motorists, and proud of it. Because I have a badge on my car to that effect, it keeps reminding me to drive responsibly and that cannot be a bad thing !

I have to agree that a driver should progress along the roads efficiently, safely and with consideration for other users, and of course within the law.

With regard to this particular case, I would have thought that there should be an alternative route that this lady could take, that would avoid the use of a motorway.

Having said that, she may be more of a danger on a smaller road where over-taking would be more risky than on a three laned motorway.

I think it may be a case of treating each of such cases according to the circumstances and conditions at the time, and leaving any actions to the discretion of the police officer present.

It would be a shame to deprive somebody of their independence, just because they are driving cautiously, albeit seemingly dangerously through the eyes of another driver.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:25 am
by lemon_and_mint
G#Gill;753261 wrote: Ere Slippy, watch it matey, you could start WW3 here ---------dodgey ground there mate :wah: I could join you in battle because I am a member of the Institute of Advanced Motorists, and proud of it. Because I have a badge on my car to that effect, it keeps reminding me to drive responsibly and that cannot be a bad thing !

I have to agree that a driver should progress along the roads efficiently, safely and with consideration for other users, and of course within the law.

With regard to this particular case, I would have thought that there should be an alternative route that this lady could take, that would avoid the use of a motorway.

Having said that, she may be more of a danger on a smaller road where over-taking would be more risky than on a three laned motorway.

I think it may be a case of treating each of such cases according to the circumstances and conditions at the time, and leaving any actions to the discretion of the police officer present.

It would be a shame to deprive somebody of their independence, just because they are driving cautiously, albeit seemingly dangerously through the eyes of another driver.


i want to take the advanced motoring course, can you tell me more?how did you arrange it, what was the course like?

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:27 am
by mikeinie
G#Gill;753261 wrote: Ere Slippy, watch it matey, you could start WW3 here ---------dodgey ground there mate :wah: I could join you in battle because I am a member of the Institute of Advanced Motorists, and proud of it. Because I have a badge on my car to that effect, it keeps reminding me to drive responsibly and that cannot be a bad thing !

I have to agree that a driver should progress along the roads efficiently, safely and with consideration for other users, and of course within the law.

With regard to this particular case, I would have thought that there should be an alternative route that this lady could take, that would avoid the use of a motorway.

Having said that, she may be more of a danger on a smaller road where over-taking would be more risky than on a three laned motorway.

I think it may be a case of treating each of such cases according to the circumstances and conditions at the time, and leaving any actions to the discretion of the police officer present.

It would be a shame to deprive somebody of their independence, just because they are driving cautiously, albeit seemingly dangerously through the eyes of another driver.


Cautiously? 8 mps? That is not cautious, that is incapable. I walk faster than that!

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:32 am
by Bryn Mawr
lemon_and_mint;753199 wrote: a woman has been taken to court by police for driving at 8 miles an hour on a motorway - limit is 70 -

she had a note in her back window saying she drove slowly because she had multiple sclerosis.

Any comments?


She should not be on the road - especially a motorway.

The degree of danger in any accident is directly related to the difference in speed between the two colliding objects.

The likelihood of an accident occurring is also related to the difference in speed - by acting as a mobile chicane she is forcing other traffic into late lane changes. Not only is she in danger of a rear end shunt but she is also endangering other road users.

To be driving at 8MPH in a stream of traffic averaging 60MPH is suicidal.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:36 am
by SlipStream
G#Gill;753261 wrote: Ere Slippy, watch it matey, you could start WW3 here ---------dodgey ground there mate :wah: I could join you in battle because I am a member of the Institute of Advanced Motorists, and proud of it. Because I have a badge on my car to that effect, it keeps reminding me to drive responsibly and that cannot be a bad thing !

I have to agree that a driver should progress along the roads efficiently, safely and with consideration for other users, and of course within the law.

With regard to this particular case, I would have thought that there should be an alternative route that this lady could take, that would avoid the use of a motorway.

Having said that, she may be more of a danger on a smaller road where over-taking would be more risky than on a three laned motorway.

I think it may be a case of treating each of such cases according to the circumstances and conditions at the time, and leaving any actions to the discretion of the police officer present.

It would be a shame to deprive somebody of their independence, just because they are driving cautiously, albeit seemingly dangerously through the eyes of another driver.


talkin bout the selfish drivers out there...

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:44 am
by WonderWendy3
8mph???:eek:

She would cause an accident on the highway where I live....if I go speed limit in the right hand lane (65mph) I get passed like I'm standing still!!

I understand independence, but that could cause her her life, I would vote for her to find an alternatitive way to get to where she had to go....for her saftey as well as others.:-6

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:16 pm
by Imladris
I do feel sorry for her losing her independence but bloomin' 8mph!!!!! Far too slow, definite hazard to other road users.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:50 pm
by weeder
If her condition limited her to driving 8 mph... she should not be driving at all.

Driving too slow ( as has been said) is as dangerous as speeding. I have to wonder about her mental facultys as well. Surely, she realizes her condition, though unfortunate does not give her lisense to jepordize others.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:09 pm
by Chookie
From the reports it appears that she got lost and drove (crawled?) onto a motorway access road.

If she does, in fact, have MS, she should not be driving. Anywhere.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:50 pm
by G#Gill
Well my post brought out the reactions !!!

As we know there are certain vehicles not allowed on motorways and these include mopeds of 50cc or under, because they are too slow for motorway use. I think that says all that is needed.

The woman involved with this case, apparently has some sort of phobia about driving. If this is the case, why is this woman even contemplating driving anywhere?

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:52 pm
by Nomad
kinks;753211 wrote: Yeah, it's like that here....on the motorway (if you could call it that) 65km is the minimum and 100km is the maximum



I remember one time, was out in the car, and this car in front must have been doing less that 10km and they still put on their brakes to turn a corner :-5




People that use their blinkers going around a curve should be killed. Yup thats right just out and out killed.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:54 pm
by hoxtonchris
8mph!!!!!the traffic wardens in essex would have done her for parking!

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:10 pm
by G#Gill
I want to take the advanced motoring course, can you tell me more?how did you arrange it, what was the course like?(Quote from Lemon and Mint)

L and M if you type in Institute of Advanced Motorists in the 'Search' I think you will find the information you need. I have been a member for 25 years and certain things will have changed since I took the test. I wish you all the best Lemony.

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:45 am
by minks
I don't think a medical condition like hers is a good excuse for driving, if you can not drive the recommended speed you are a hazard, both if too slow or too fast. Pity about her condition, but if it is limiting her to use a car properly she perhaps should not be driving.

In my community every morning at 7:50am this jackass with a small truck and camper hits the road, he has 2 secondary and 1 primary road(s) to take, the speed limits are 40k, 80k and 100k. He consistandly drives 15k below the speed limit. And behind him is always a long slow line up of frustrated drivers. I have cut around him and tried to give him the staredown as I pass but the jerk has his side window illegally tinted so I can only see his silhouette. I know he looks over at those of us who pass him I can make that out and I swear he gets his jollies pissing of rush hour drivers. I don't have the patience to follow him and take his plate number down but one day I may and then report him every time I see him. He is a horrible hazard. This has been going on for a number of years and I think it's time police were made aware of this idiot. It isn't a matter of he is holding us up its the fact he is causing people to cut in and out around him, he causes delays at the lights and the right hand turn/merge piling traffic up and who knows one day someone will barrel into him as he is going so slow.

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:57 am
by Mia
There are various stages of MS,it is disease that may or may not get worse,also people who suffer from it have good and bad days.It was not this womens condition that made her drive slowly,it was because she is a very nervous driver.It has been recommended that she takes more lessons,and retakes her test.

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:19 pm
by lemon_and_mint
she was banned for 7 days, i don't think that does much, although it gives her a week to think about it.

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:25 pm
by G#Gill
lemon_and_mint;753861 wrote: she was banned for 7 days, i don't think that does much, although it gives her a week to think about it.


I would think it would do very little at all because I expect she would have been driving from the time of the offence to the time of the court case, which I would think would have been several months !