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July 28th, 1945

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:31 pm
by Lon
It was a Saturday and I was in New York City that early morning with a group of scouts from New Jersey.

http://www.evesmag.com/empirestatecrash.htm

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:32 pm
by Bryn Mawr
Lon;836430 wrote: It was a Saturday and I was in New York City that early morning with a group of scouts from New Jersey.

http://www.evesmag.com/empirestatecrash.htm


The volume of fuel carried?

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:55 am
by RedGlitter
So you saw that or at least the aftermath? Tell us more, Lon. What kind of impact did it have on you?

That's a heck of a photo. I have a strong admiration for photographers of years past.

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:23 am
by Lon
The recent post re: 9/11 made me think of this crash. We were near Radio City Music Hall when it happened and could hear all the fire trucks and ambulances. We could barely see the crash itself due to the fog. The three man crew was killed as were 14 others in the building and 26 injured.

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:31 pm
by along-for-the-ride
Harrowing photo, Lon.

That was a terrible accident.......................911 was not.

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:46 pm
by Bryn Mawr
No-one's picked up on the obvious question.

A plane flies into the side of a skyscraper starting a terrible conflagration and the final result is a hole in the side of the building over no more than two floors.

Given the similarity in the cause, why the totally disproportionate result?

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:18 pm
by Lon
Bryn Mawr;838197 wrote: No-one's picked up on the obvious question.

A plane flies into the side of a skyscraper starting a terrible conflagration and the final result is a hole in the side of the building over no more than two floors.

Given the similarity in the cause, why the totally disproportionate result?


Huge difference--------the B-25 by comparison with the jets that hit the towers is like the difference between a rabbit and a horse, plus Jp4 (jet fuel) burns much hotter than the old aircraft fuel of WW 2.

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:32 pm
by Bryn Mawr
Lon;838211 wrote: Huge difference--------the B-25 by comparison with the jets that hit the towers is like the difference between a rabbit and a horse, plus Jp4 (jet fuel) burns much hotter than the old aircraft fuel of WW 2.


That was my supposition (far more of it in the first place) but the difference in the damage is massive.

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:44 pm
by dubs
Great picture.

B-25 Holds 670 US gallons of (probably) 100 octane aviation spirit on internal tanks.

Boeing 767 Holds 23.980 US gallons of jp4

July 28th, 1945

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:59 pm
by Bryn Mawr
dubs;838223 wrote: Great picture.

B-25 Holds 670 US gallons of (probably) 100 octane aviation spirit on internal tanks.

Boeing 767 Holds 23.980 US gallons of jp4


Ah - a little different then :-)



How many gallons per mile does that make it? HELP!