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With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:43 am
by jones jones
Essentially because of what I say and perhaps the way I say it in my posts on Forum Garden, I have over the months since I joined, taken quite a bit of criticism and banter, mostly light-hearted and teasing but at times not so light-hearted.

However over the last month or so a lot of the banter from certain quarters has become much less light-hearted and teasing and is now more personal.

Of course if I post a thread than anyone reading such a thread or post is fully entitled to disagree with me and say so in his or her reply. Nothing wrong with that and we all do it.

However when almost every time I post something, a nasty/rude remark is made in reply by a person or persons to whom my post was not even directed ¦ is that fair?

Hey! I’m a big boy now and I can mix it with anyone. I’ve taken many shots to the chin and been knocked down but have always got up again. But when these often uncalled for and nasty remarks begin to impact on my friends, well then that isn’t good at all.

Of course I know that I open myself up to criticism by the very nature of my posts that are largely made on threads where ladies are in the majority. Nobody likes to be criticised but some of us handle it a little better than others. Of course I don’t like being criticised either but I can handle it.

Having said that I do not believe that I have ever been guilty of harassing any particular lady. If I had been then surely by now someone would have complained and I would have received an infraction which to date I have not.

Everyone knows I flirt but when I flirt with a lady and she either ignores me or tells me to get stuffed ¦ I back off at once. In passing I might mention that sometimes the flirting is not always initiated by me.

Be that as it may ¦ some of the remarks posted in the threads where I am active have begun to hurt me, as they are downright nasty and cruel. For my part I have never reported a derogatory post or private message and believe me I have had my share, nor am I ever likely to but it saddens me that this is happening.

I think the records will show that I have often leapt to the defence of other members whom I have felt were being wronged in some way. In fact I have also private messaged members to show solidarity with them when I thought that they had been treated unfairly or unjustly.

I do try very hard not to express anger or god forbid hatred towards anyone on any of my posts, as I believe that if I did then this would be returned to me. You reap what you sow. But I now fear that eventually I will perhaps be baited or goaded into saying something hateful in return and I do not want this to happen.

So it is for this very reason that I am now simply going to ignore all such nasty/cruel posts and remarks ¦ something I suppose I should have done ages ago when they first started surfacing.

So I ask the people whose posts I am now forced to ignore to please forgive me ¦ I do not hate or even dislike you ¦ it is only the hurtful and cruel things you often say to me that I dislike. To you I send only my best wishes and my love.

Mwaaaaah!

Jj :-4

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:26 am
by kayleneaussie
Sorry to hear this is happening jj. :-4 Its only 4.30am here and I would write more but the brain isnt fuctioning too good yet :D

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:51 pm
by Trunk Monkey
Désolé vous avez des problèmes. Peut-être que le problème se trouve à l'intérieur? Quand vous jouez avec le feu, mon ami, vous obtiendrez burnt.We sommes tous ici pour avoir du plaisir et si quelqu'un te donne un problème, il devrait être rendu compte!

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:05 pm
by abbey
Trunk Monkey;838170 wrote: Désolé vous avez des problèmes. Peut-être que le problème se trouve à l'intérieur? Quand vous jouez avec le feu, mon ami, vous obtiendrez burnt.We sommes tous ici pour avoir du plaisir et si quelqu'un te donne un problème, il devrait être rendu compte!l'anglais si vous plais!

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:18 pm
by jones jones
abbey;838176 wrote: l'anglais si vous plais!




dear abbey ...

Trunk Money said that she is sad that I have problems but perhaps it is of my own making and that when you play with fire you can get burnt.

The last part of her post is a little obscure as translated directly from French, she says: “ We let us are all here to have pleasure and if someone gives you a problem, it should be realized. :wah:

Jj:-

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:26 pm
by along-for-the-ride
I understood some of Trunk Monkey's French," When you play with fire...you get burnt."

Some people justify being cruel by saying ,"I'm only saying the truth." The diva in my office at work does this. There are ways of saying the truth without being cruel. Also, silence can be golden.

I don't like to hear of any member here in the Forum being mistreated. This doesn't just hurt the individual, but also hurts the Forum.

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:29 pm
by abbey
jones jones;838182 wrote: dear abbey ...



Trunk Money said that she is sad that I have problems but perhaps it is of my own making and that when you play with fire you can get burnt.



The last part of her post is a little obscure as translated directly from French, she says: “ We let us are all here to have pleasure and if someone gives you a problem, it should be realized. :wah:



Jj:-
I translate the last part as saying if someone gives you a problem then you should report them and their account should be taken away.

My point was, this is an Engish speaking forum and as a mod I dont see why I should have to translate to check what the post says.

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:06 pm
by jones jones
kayleneaussie;838106 wrote: Sorry to hear this is happening jj. :-4 Its only 4.30am here and I would write more but the brain isnt fuctioning too good yet :D




jeez kaylene honey ... at 4.30am nothing functions never mind my brain!!! :-5

Jj:-4

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:37 pm
by jones jones
jimbo;838217 wrote: sorry to hear you are having a tough time jj the best thing to do is just carry on as you are doing mate , every body here dislikes some one but we can all coexist you just got to try not to let people get to you



after all if you are being given a hard time by some one who just wants to fight all the time just ignore them why give them what they want ,just sit back and smugly think how much you are annoying them by not giving them what they want :):)





by the way i have no idea who you are on about and who is giving you a tough time :thinking:





if its one of my friends ignore what i just said and give jj a tough time after all they cheated us out of the world rugby cup :wah::wah:




thanx jimbo buddy ... you are a good man ...

later this year we gonna kick englands ass again ...

but this time in cricket!!! :wah:

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:45 pm
by Helen
jones jones;838206 wrote: jeez kaylene honey ... at 4.30am nothing functions never mind my brain!!! :-5

Jj:-4


thats a shame:-3;):-4

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:14 pm
by mrsK
jones jones;838221 wrote: thanx jimbo buddy ... you are a good man ...

later this year we gonna kick englands ass again ...

but this time in cricket!!! :wah:


Then you will play the Aussies & that will be the end of that;);):wah:

Just ignore,it works just as good as being ignored.

Hurts for maybe ummmmm 2 seconds & then you are over it;):wah:

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:15 pm
by along-for-the-ride
:wah: At 4:30 am, I am cutting ZZZZZZZZZ's.





PS. It's folks like Jimbo who make the Forum Garden a great place. He's a good buddy.

Attached files

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:51 pm
by Patsy Warnick
Sorry to hear JJ

Hope things get smoothed out..



Patsy

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:55 pm
by koan
jones jones;838072 wrote: [snip]

Having said that I do not believe that I have ever been guilty of harassing any particular lady. If I had been then surely by now someone would have complained and I would have received an infraction which to date I have not.
That is incorrect. You have had accounts banned.



Everyone knows I flirt but when I flirt with a lady and she either ignores me or tells me to get stuffed ¦ I back off at once.
That is also incorrect.

[snip]

So it is for this very reason that I am now simply going to ignore all such nasty/cruel posts and remarks ¦ something I suppose I should have done ages ago when they first started surfacing.

So I ask the people whose posts I am now forced to ignore to please forgive me ¦ I do not hate or even dislike you ¦ it is only the hurtful and cruel things you often say to me that I dislike. To you I send only my best wishes and my love.

Mwaaaaah!

Jj :-4
Good luck with that. :)

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:36 pm
by Hugh Janus
Well. It's not too hard to see where you may be getting problems from J,J.

Just remember this... If you don't have enemies, you haven't made a difference....

Sod em. Sod em all !!! You have as much right to write as they have.

Dont be ground down by petty minded idiots...

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:23 pm
by Patsy Warnick
JJ

In the short time here at FG you've had a few bumps in the road to overcome and you've successfully done so. With all the bumps, we've gotten to know you.

And that's cool - alittle insight

For whatever the issues some need to hold a grudge once a grudge is held, now who's in control ??

I find a grudge a waste of energy & and no one owns a piece of me.

Patsy

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:06 pm
by jones jones
Helen;838224 wrote: thats a shame:-3;):-4


that it is helen honey

Jj:-4

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:08 pm
by jones jones
mrsK;838241 wrote: Then you will play the Aussies & that will be the end of that;);):wah:

Just ignore,it works just as good as being ignored.

Hurts for maybe ummmmm 2 seconds & then you are over it;):wah:




i shall certainly follow youradvice ...

damn! i forgot we had to play the aussies after england! :-5

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:09 pm
by jones jones
Patsy Warnick;838320 wrote: Sorry to hear JJ

Hope things get smoothed out..



Patsy




thaink they might just be heading that way patsy ... thank you!

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:12 pm
by jones jones
Hugh Janus;838345 wrote: Well. It's not too hard to see where you may be getting problems from J,J.

Just remember this... If you don't have enemies, you haven't made a difference....

Sod em. Sod em all !!! You have as much right to write as they have.

Dont be ground down by petty minded idiots...




thank you very much hugh ... i shall continue to write ...

and if i do not actually love those who do not like me ...

i shall continue to SEND them my love!

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:16 pm
by jones jones
Patsy Warnick;838377 wrote: JJ

In the short time here at FG you've had a few bumps in the road to overcome and you've successfully done so. With all the bumps, we've gotten to know you.

And that's cool - alittle insight

For whatever the issues some need to hold a grudge once a grudge is held, now who's in control ??

I find a grudge a waste of energy & and no one owns a piece of me.

Patsy


exactly my sentiments honey ..

we have no control over what happened yesterday OR over what may happen

tomorrow ... so why waste any energy on that?

rather put all your energy on that which you CAN have some control over ...

this moment!



Jj :-4

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:59 am
by pantsonfire321@aol.com
jones jones;838072 wrote: Essentially because of what I say and perhaps the way I say it in my posts on Forum Garden, I have over the months since I joined, taken quite a bit of criticism and banter, mostly light-hearted and teasing but at times not so light-hearted.

However over the last month or so a lot of the banter from certain quarters has become much less light-hearted and teasing and is now more personal.

Of course if I post a thread than anyone reading such a thread or post is fully entitled to disagree with me and say so in his or her reply. Nothing wrong with that and we all do it.

However when almost every time I post something, a nasty/rude remark is made in reply by a person or persons to whom my post was not even directed … is that fair?

Hey! I’m a big boy now and I can mix it with anyone. I’ve taken many shots to the chin and been knocked down but have always got up again. But when these often uncalled for and nasty remarks begin to impact on my friends, well then that isn’t good at all.

Of course I know that I open myself up to criticism by the very nature of my posts that are largely made on threads where ladies are in the majority. Nobody likes to be criticised but some of us handle it a little better than others. Of course I don’t like being criticised either but I can handle it.

Having said that I do not believe that I have ever been guilty of harassing any particular lady. If I had been then surely by now someone would have complained and I would have received an infraction which to date I have not.

Everyone knows I flirt but when I flirt with a lady and she either ignores me or tells me to get stuffed … I back off at once. In passing I might mention that sometimes the flirting is not always initiated by me.

Be that as it may … some of the remarks posted in the threads where I am active have begun to hurt me, as they are downright nasty and cruel. For my part I have never reported a derogatory post or private message and believe me I have had my share, nor am I ever likely to but it saddens me that this is happening.

I think the records will show that I have often leapt to the defence of other members whom I have felt were being wronged in some way. In fact I have also private messaged members to show solidarity with them when I thought that they had been treated unfairly or unjustly.

I do try very hard not to express anger or god forbid hatred towards anyone on any of my posts, as I believe that if I did then this would be returned to me. You reap what you sow. But I now fear that eventually I will perhaps be baited or goaded into saying something hateful in return and I do not want this to happen.

So it is for this very reason that I am now simply going to ignore all such nasty/cruel posts and remarks … something I suppose I should have done ages ago when they first started surfacing.

So I ask the people whose posts I am now forced to ignore to please forgive me … I do not hate or even dislike you … it is only the hurtful and cruel things you often say to me that I dislike. To you I send only my best wishes and my love.

Mwaaaaah!

Jj :-4


Hey JJ your in good company,:-4 i got one of thoses too (mentions me at every opportunity ) . Its like they can't have a good day unless their having a dig at you . I just try to ignore it . I don't see why i should feel guilty for having a good life :-5

The internet is a very big place and your always gonna get all sorts of people thrown together ...we can't like every one :thinking:.

Like i once said to you before , it's not a popularity contest ...you don't need to be a performing monkey ...just be yourself . You know, one thing i have learned is that some people will just argue for the sake of arguing (i think it was Flop that said it) and it is true . The next time it happens just report it . Don't let the bullys win ...i vowed a long time ago when my ex died that i would never, ever let another man bully me again...internet or real life a bully is a bully.

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:15 am
by jones jones
pantsonfire321@aol.com;838454 wrote: Hey JJ your in good company,:-4 i got one of thoses too (mentions me at every opportunity ) . Its like they can't have a good day unless their having a dig at you . I just try to ignore it . I don't see why i should feel guilty for having a good life :-5

The internet is a very big place and your always gonna get all sorts of people thrown together ...we can't like every one :thinking:.

Like i once said to you before , it's not a popularity contest ...you don't need to be a performing monkey ...just be yourself . You know, one thing i have learned is that some people will just argue for the sake of arguing (i think it was Flop that said it) and it is true . The next time it happens just report it . Don't let the bullys win ...i vowed a long time ago when my ex died that i would never, ever let another man bully me again...internet or real life a bully is a bully.




you go girl and don't you take no crap from anyone!!!!

i have a sister who was physically abused ... or as it is now more politically correct to say ... the victim of domestic violence ... by her husband for many many years ...

i spend many many hours rescuing her and tending to her black eyes and split lips ... one day when i was patching her up and she was wiping the tears off her face she said: "Jj look at this face and take note ... nobody is ever gonna make me cry again ... i swear it!"

her husband is long dead now and the tragedy is that to this day i personally have never seen her cry ... she has kept her promise ..

Jj:-4

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:59 am
by Trunk Monkey
First I would like to say that Jj is a very funny and very nice person. I DID NOT make that post. I have a young girl that covers my phone when I am out of my home office. She also had access to my pc for business use only. When I left last night, she came in used my pc to post on this site. She also posted on another site as well (come kind of chat room). She said she used some kind of English to French translation site which infected my pc with a virus. This is how she was caught.

She was confronted this morning by my husand and I and she has been terminated.

I am not an ugly or mean person and I only come to the Garden to make friends which I have. I enjoy this site and hope all of you make sure to log out when you are done for the day.

Thank you

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:52 am
by Helen
Trunk Monkey;838468 wrote: First I would like to say that Jj is a very funny and very nice person. I DID NOT make that post. I have a young girl that covers my phone when I am out of my home office. She also had access to my pc for business use only. When I left last night, she came in used my pc to post on this site. She also posted on another site as well (come kind of chat room). She said she used some kind of English to French translation site which infected my pc with a virus. This is how she was caught.

She was confronted this morning by my husand and I and she has been terminated.

I am not an ugly or mean person and I only come to the Garden to make friends which I have. I enjoy this site and hope all of you make sure to log out when you are done for the day.

Thank you


hi TM

not literally i hope, it kind of means been killed over here :-2

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:23 am
by YZGI
Helen;838622 wrote: hi TM

not literally i hope, it kind of means been killed over here :-2
That just goes to show you. Don't tug on Supermans cape, don't spit into the wind and you dang sure better not use Trunk Monkey's computer..:wah:

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:33 am
by Trunk Monkey
Helen;838622 wrote: hi TM

not literally i hope, it kind of means been killed over here :-2


Hi, Helen. Here terminated means to end employment or to get fired. ;)

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:38 am
by el guapo
YZGI;838658 wrote: That just goes to show you. Don't tug on Supermans cape, don't spit into the wind and you dang sure better not use Trunk Monkey's computer..:wah:


and ya dont mess around with jim

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:51 am
by Mustang
JJ you need to pull up your big boy shorts and go on.I was there and know how you must be feeling. It's wrong in every way. But the man I think you are will get on with this? Call me dude we need to talk. :)

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:31 am
by qsducks
Jj, a beautiful written thread and don't worry about it my friend:-6 - See how much everybody :-4 you.

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:04 am
by Hope6
Very well spoken Jj as all of your threads are!

like the others have said, i've always found you to be a very nice and charming guy, and a good friend when i've needed one!

some very good advice has been given here, don't worry about the past and just look at how many people on here love you!:-4

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:14 am
by YZGI
I've been looking for the "I love JJ thread" finally found it..Lol:wah:

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:28 am
by Cow Patty
J.J. sorry to hear about all the trouble you have had. As the old saying goes....just let it roll off your shoulder. You'll come out of it the bigger person. :)

As for Trunk Monkey, please know that if she says she did not post that comment, then she didn't. She is not that kind of person.

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:36 am
by jones jones
Trunk Monkey;838468 wrote: First I would like to say that Jj is a very funny and very nice person. I DID NOT make that post. I have a young girl that covers my phone when I am out of my home office. She also had access to my pc for business use only. When I left last night, she came in used my pc to post on this site. She also posted on another site as well (come kind of chat room). She said she used some kind of English to French translation site which infected my pc with a virus. This is how she was caught.

She was confronted this morning by my husand and I and she has been terminated.

I am not an ugly or mean person and I only come to the Garden to make friends which I have. I enjoy this site and hope all of you make sure to log out when you are done for the day.

Thank you




its okay pj ... i understand ....

Jj

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:38 am
by jones jones
Mustang;838682 wrote: JJ you need to pull up your big boy shorts and go on.I was there and know how you must be feeling. It's wrong in every way. But the man I think you are will get on with this? Call me dude we need to talk. :)




thanx buddy ... will do ...

Jj

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:39 am
by jones jones
Before Sunset;838720 wrote: Good advice, Jj. :)




i live and swear by it sweetie ...

Jj

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:39 am
by jones jones
qsducks;838724 wrote: Jj, a beautiful written thread and don't worry about it my friend:-6 - See how much everybody :-4 you.




mwaaaaaaaaaaah!!! ducky .. you know it babe!!

Jj

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:42 am
by jones jones
Before Sunset;838729 wrote: By the way, I don't know what happened or what Mustang is referring to, but of all the posts I've read that you've written, I've never thought you were anything but very sweet. Why is it that the nice people always get kicked around? :thinking: Hang in there, dude!




your more like sunshine than before sunrise honey!:-6:-6

mwaaaah!

Jj

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:43 am
by jones jones
Hope6;838766 wrote: Very well spoken Jj as all of your threads are!

like the others have said, i've always found you to be a very nice and charming guy, and a good friend when i've needed one!

some very good advice has been given here, don't worry about the past and just look at how many people on here love you!:-4




mwaaah!!! honey pie!



Jj:-4:-4

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:44 am
by jones jones
YZGI;838772 wrote: I've been looking for the "I love JJ thread" finally found it..Lol:wah:




come here big guy and let me hug you too! :wah:

mwaaah!

ol' Jj got enough love to go round!!!

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:46 am
by jones jones
Cow Patty;838778 wrote: J.J. sorry to hear about all the trouble you have had. As the old saying goes....just let it roll off your shoulder. You'll come out of it the bigger person. :)

As for Trunk Monkey, please know that if she says she did not post that comment, then she didn't. She is not that kind of person.




hey .... god i can't bring myself to call you "cow" or "patty"!!!!

honey ... i know ...

i think i said once before ... the tape has been rewound ...

it didn't happen!

Jj

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:47 am
by jones jones
Idgie;838781 wrote: to you JJ!

You're full of fun and fluff just like the rest of us! :p

Glad you're here with your witty sense of humor for us to enjoy! :-6




cool frenchie!

you know i love fun and fluff like the rest!

mwaaah!

Jj

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:49 am
by jones jones
el guapo;838671 wrote: and ya dont mess around with jim




yo jess dude ... where ya bin man!!!

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:44 am
by kazalala
Well.looks like i missed it again:rolleyes: i didnt think you were having a problem with anyone jonesy, but like you say, you will cope:D I know i have often had a bit of fun with you ( in a completely mickey taking way:wah:) as we English tend to do, soooo i hope i have never offended or hurt you, because i never ever go out with any intention to do that to anyone:thinking:wether i like them or not:cool:

With Love From Jj.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:56 am
by jones jones
kazalala;839911 wrote: Well.looks like i missed it again:rolleyes: i didnt think you were having a problem with anyone jonesy, but like you say, you will cope:D I know i have often had a bit of fun with you ( in a completely mickey taking way:wah:) as we English tend to do, soooo i hope i have never offended or hurt you, because i never ever go out with any intention to do that to anyone:thinking:wether i like them or not:cool:




hey kaz!

who is one of the first .. if not the first lady on FG i wrote a poem for???

now would i ... the chosen ... have done that for someone who offended or hurt

me???

Mwaaaaaaaaaaah!!!

Jj:-4