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The Jewish vissionary Yeshua (Jesus) predicted that the stars will fall form the sky and that the Earth would be consumed in a lake of fire.

I tool have had the same vissionary phenenomon occur to me. How is it possible for stars to fall from the sky? Early man had no concept of the distance from us to the stars. Early man did not realize that the stars are extremely large as compared to our Earth. Yet Yeshua saw such things!

Isaiah predicted people would come to life again upon a new Earth. Some people believe that it is this Earth, yet this is a polluted mess with used up resources and it takes a billion years our time to produce an Earth.

As we look to the center of our galaxy we see a black hole. What is it? It eats up nearby stars. We live in an electrical universe of matter. Antimatter is missing but can be made in the laboratory. Matter and antimatter tend to self destruct. The universe we live in is an expanded universe.

As the universe expands energy is lost. As the universe expands energy from galaxies is transmitted into black holes. Black holes are electrical nodes which convert light energy into antimatter.

The explosion of the center of the galaxy converts huge amounts of antimatter energy into new stars, The antiprotons and antielectrons radiate through space at the speed of light. These eat up the matter stars.

Thus for the center of the galaxy heading toward us are high energy anti electrons and antiprotons. The stars are slowly being eaten up. We are approximately 28,000 light years from the galaxy center.

No doubt Biblical man came into being long after the galaxy explosion. Thus Isaiah saw a New Earth already created in antimatter and Jesus saw a lake of fire already heading this way.

The clock ticks very fast when it is compressed to a black hole size. Thus a billion years can occur when only one year has passed. This means it only takes a few years to upgrade a new Earth to be ready for man. Thus dinosaurs and prehistoric man can come into existence in a very short time compared to our time clock.

The universe works as a matter/antimatter oscillator. The old anti-matter galaxy is destroyed and replaced by a matter galaxy. Then the matter galaxy is destroyed and replaced by a matter galaxy. In addition this occurs in timed sequence all over the universe so that one galaxy explodes while the neighbors are in the process of exploding until everything in the universe is refreshed.

JerryG;887624 wrote: The Jewish vissionary Yeshua (Jesus) predicted that the stars will fall form the sky and that the Earth would be consumed in a lake of fire.

I tool have had the same vissionary phenenomon occur to me. How is it possible for stars to fall from the sky? Early man had no concept of the distance from us to the stars. Early man did not realize that the stars are extremely large as compared to our Earth. Yet Yeshua saw such things!

Isaiah predicted people would come to life again upon a new Earth. Some people believe that it is this Earth, yet this is a polluted mess with used up resources and it takes a billion years our time to produce an Earth.

As we look to the center of our galaxy we see a black hole. What is it? It eats up nearby stars. We live in an electrical universe of matter. Antimatter is missing but can be made in the laboratory. Matter and antimatter tend to self destruct. The universe we live in is an expanded universe.

As the universe expands energy is lost. As the universe expands energy from galaxies is transmitted into black holes. Black holes are electrical nodes which convert light energy into antimatter.

The explosion of the center of the galaxy converts huge amounts of antimatter energy into new stars, The antiprotons and antielectrons radiate through space at the speed of light. These eat up the matter stars.

Thus for the center of the galaxy heading toward us are high energy anti electrons and antiprotons. The stars are slowly being eaten up. We are approximately 28,000 light years from the galaxy center.

No doubt Biblical man came into being long after the galaxy explosion. Thus Isaiah saw a New Earth already created in antimatter and Jesus saw a lake of fire already heading this way.

The clock ticks very fast when it is compressed to a black hole size. Thus a billion years can occur when only one year has passed. This means it only takes a few years to upgrade a new Earth to be ready for man. Thus dinosaurs and prehistoric man can come into existence in a very short time compared to our time clock.

The universe works as a matter/antimatter oscillator. The old anti-matter galaxy is destroyed and replaced by a matter galaxy. Then the matter galaxy is destroyed and replaced by a matter galaxy. In addition this occurs in timed sequence all over the universe so that one galaxy explodes while the neighbors are in the process of exploding until everything in the universe is refreshed.




Hello - JerryG would you like to discuss Revelation

Actually Revelation was a letter written, by someone named John, to the seven churches, decrying the Roman empire. It had nothing to say about the distant future.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Ted;908394 wrote: Actually Revelation was a letter written, by someone named John, to the seven churches, decrying the Roman empire. It had nothing to say about the distant future.

Shalom

Ted:-6




El's Holy Injiyl ~ The Book Of Revelation In The Original Aramic Chapter One Verse 1-3

Message Of Confirmation To The World That The Book Of Revelation Is The Book Given To The Messiah Jesus Which Thehos Gave To His Faithful Disciple John .

Verse 1 - 3 . The Revelation Of Ha Mashiakh , Yashu'a Which Yahweh Of The Eloheem Gave To Him , In Order For Him To Teach His Servants , About That Which Must Happen Very Quickly , And To Record And Send It By Way Of My ( Yowkhanan ) Hands , Through His Malak ( Malkiy Tsedeq ) For His Servant ( Yowkhanan Bar Zebedee ) The News Bearer .

Verse 2 . The Newsbearer Yowkhanan Testified By Way Of The Word Of Yahweh Of The Eloheem , And A Testimony Of Ha Mashiakh , In All The Affairs Which ( Yowkhanan Bar Zebedee ) Saw .

Verse 3 . Blessings Will Come To Womever Reads , And Listen To The Dawbar ' Words ' Of This Nabawa 'Prophecy 'Contained In The Book Of Revelation ; And Shamariym 'Guards ' The Writing In It And The Time Is Already Coming Near .

Daniyal:-6

Actually the original of Revelation was in Greek and apparently written on the island of Patmos by someone named John or someone using that Name.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Daniyal, I have to ask, I can't help myself - why did you capitalize all the words of the sentences?

Daniyal;907319 wrote: Hello - JerryG would you like to discuss Revelation


Only to the extent that the physical reality agrees with scientific possibilities.

Ted;908432 wrote: Daniyal:-6

Actually the original of Revelation was in Greek and apparently written on the island of Patmos by someone named John or someone using that Name.

Shalom

Ted:-6




I do believe the scriptures were in Aramic not Greek , It was change to Greek from Aramic , Don't believe check it out for yourself .

Daniyal;908591 wrote: I do believe the scriptures were in Aramic not Greek , It was change to Greek from Aramic , Don't believe check it out for yourself .


Where would you suggest is a believable place to check it? Christian authorities tend to have claimed Greek as the original language for the Book of Revelation. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01594b.htm would be an example - the Catholic Encyclopaedia.

Ted;908394 wrote: Actually Revelation was a letter written, by someone named John, to the seven churches, decrying the Roman empire. It had nothing to say about the distant future.

Shalom

Ted:-6


Hello - Ted would you like to discuss Revelation ?

Daniyal:-6

I have checked many times. The fact is there is much dispute among scholars on the original language of "Revelation". Some say it is Greek and some say it is Aramaic. Presently I fall in with the group that goes with Greek. Could I be wrong? Yes. Does it matter? Not really.

I'm not sure what there is to discuss about Revelation. It is a very deep criticism of the Roman Empire, nothing more and nothing less. The symbolism was long ago lost in antiquity. Then one also has to contend with the editorializing, redactions, additions and deletions and of course copying errors.

Shalom

Ted:-6

spot;908677 wrote: Where would you suggest is a believable place to check it? Christian authorities tend to have claimed Greek as the original language for the Book of Revelation. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01594b.htm would be an example - the Catholic Encyclopaedia.




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It a know Face that Yashu'a never spoke greek nor latin nor english . And this is why .



Where Did The Word Jesus Come From ?

Ans ; Scholars attempt to justify the use of the name '' Jesus '' In the Book Of The New Testament , They Claimed That The NewTestament Was Inspired To Be Written In Greek Originally . So Therefore , The Name '' Jesus '' Is Acceptable For Common Use Instead Of Using '' Jashu'a '' , According To The Harper's Bible Dictionary , Page 329 , You See A Picture Of What The Name Of Jesus Would Have LQQked Like Back In The 1st Century , In The Original

Aramic ( Hebrew ) Language , Which He Spoke , They Also That Because There Is No '' Sh '' Sound In The Greek Language The Name '' Jesus '' Is Acceptable Lesous Was An Anttempted Transliteration From The Original Language Into Greek .

Ques ; If There Was No '' J '' Sound .. How Was '' Jesus '' Pronounced ''

Ans ; That Means That The Word '' Jesus '' Is No Older That The16th Or 17th Century !!!!



Ques ; If There Was No '' J '' In The English Language Before 1565 A.D. How Did The Name '' Jesus '' Come About ?

Ans ; With A Little Research , You Will Find That The Names '' Zeus '' And '' Jesus '' Are Linked By The Same Root According To The Larousee Encyclopedia Of Mythology The Greek '' God '' Dionysus Is Etymologically '' Zeus '' God '' Or Gad '' Was The Seventh Son Of Jacob '' God '' Also Stands For Gomer Which Is Wisdom , Oz - Which Is Beauty And Dabar - Which Is Strength Dionysis Is '' God '' Of Wine ; Also Known As



Bacchus , HowEver , The Final Syllable Of Dionysus Or Zeues Is Identical To The Ending Of '' Jesus '' This Break Down Proves That The Reason For Selecting The Suffix , - Sus , For The Word '' Jesus '' Was Because Of Dionysus Or Zeus Who Was Known As The Greek Savior , When The Bible Was Translated Into The English Language . Zeus Is Jesus



When You Combine Then Modern Form Of The Aramic ( Hebrew ) '' Y ''( ' ) Which Is Pronounced '' Yod '' To Get The Latin '' J '' ( l ) And Then Add It To The Word Zeus - You Get - Ja - Zeus , Which Is Short For Yashua ( Jesus )

And From Zeus You Got The Word Souse And Then . It Became A Dity From Which Comes Deus In Portuguese , Dieu In French , Dio , In Italian , Dios , In Spanish , Dia In Scotch And Irish , And Duw In Welsh .



EveryDay New Names Are Being Added . When You Research Further On The Meaning Of The Suffix - sus , You Find That , According To The Webster's Third New International Dictionary , That - sus Is From The French , Latin Meaning '' Swine , Hog , Sow . The Scientific Classification For The Pig Is Sus Scrofa . The Word '' Souse '' ( Sus ) Is The Name Of A Certain Type Or Combination Of Pork That Is Pickled . Souse Is Also A Nickname ForThe South , As In '' Souse Carolina. '' Some May Call This Is



Blasphemy , But Truth Is Truth , And Fact AreFacts . And Right Now , The Facts Are Saying That .

Ques ; Why Do They Change '' The Messiah's '' Name From The Aramic

( Hebrew ) YASHU'A ' To Christ Jesus .

Ans ; The Fact Is Some Christian Have A Sickness Of Changeing People's NameOr Translating Them To Their Language . There Is No '' J '' In The Hebrew Or Aramic Alphabet The Name '' Jesus '' Is The Greek Form Of The Aramic ( Hebrew ) Name Joshua Or Jesua , Which Is A Contraction Of Johoshua . Joshua In Aramic ( Hebrew ) Is Yehowshua Or Jehoshua From The Root Word Yasha Meaning '' To Be Safe , To Set Free , Help Deliver , Salavation , Savior '' I Feel Sorry For All Those People Calling Jesus '' Christ '' BecauseIf You Call On '' The Messiah '' Jesus As Christ '' He Will Not Know



Who You Are Calling . Even If You Call Him '' Jesus '' He Will Not Know Who You Are Calling . That Was Not His Name In Greek Nor Latin ; Two Languages That He Did Not Speak . '' Christ '' Has A Different Meaning In The Greek Language Than What '' Messiah '' Has In Aramic ( Hebrew ) . So Why And How Can You Do This ? Let's Take A House In The Bible And Call It A Car . Now Try To Start The House With A Key . What Is Wrong With The Children Of The Eloheem ????





Where Did The Word '' Christ '' Come From ?



Ans; '' Christ '' Is The English Corruption Of The Greek Word '' Kristos '' Which Comes From The The Latin Word '' Cristus '' The Root Of '' Kristos '' Is The Greek Word '' Krio '' Which Means '' To Rub Over , To Anoint '' . Kristos Is The Greek Interpretation Of The Hebrew Word

Mashiah Which Takes Its Origin From The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Word Masiyh Meaning '' Anointed '' . The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Word Masiyh Derived From The Root Word Masaha Which Means ; '' He Wiped Clean , He Healed And Annointed .

From The '' Christus '' Christ '' Comes Into The Old English As '' Crist '' . To The Middle English Root '' Christ '' , And Then To The English As '' Christ '' Originally The Word '' Kristos '' Comes From Sanskirt , The Ancient Script Of The 200 Fallen Angelic Beings Who

Were Cast Down To The Planet Earth The Head Of The Fallen Angelic Beings Was Named '' Tarnush '' And He Was Called '' Krisna '' , The Demon Deity Of The Hindus , Who Were Descendants Of The 200 Fallen Eloheem ( Disagreeable Beings ) Of The Land Of Nod .

This Is Where The Word Kristos '' Is Derived . According To '' The American Heritage Dictionary '' Their Definition For '' Christ '' Is Jesus Christ Regarded By Christians As Being The Son Of God And The Messiah Foretold By The Prophets Of The Old Testement .

Thus Rendering One Who Believes In '' Christ '' Or '' Jesus '' A Christian . They Also Define The Era Of Time This Religion Began As Being Roughly At His Birth 1 . A.D. -- Which Is An Incorrect Date . First Of All Yashu'a / Jesus Did Not Speak GREEK So He Never Knew The Word '' Christ '' , Which Is A Greek Word , Or The Word '' Christian '' , Or For That Matter , The Name '' Jesus '' Which Is Also A Greek Word .



Does The Word '' Christ '' Have Any Other Meaning ?

There Are Many Definitions That The Christian World Has Submitted For The Word '' Christ ''

( 1 ) . Christ ----- Middle English Crist ; Latin Chrisus , From Greek Khristos , '' The Anoinred ( One ) '' From Khrein '' To Anoint ''

The Anointed ; The Messiah , As Foretold By The Prophets Of The Old Testement . ( 2 ) . Christian Science Science ; The Divine Manifestation Of God . Which Comes To The Flesh To Destroy Incarnate Error ''

Take From ; American Heritage Dictionary Of The English Language .

( 2 ) . Christ ---- A Translation Of The Hebrew Mashiah , As Is Expressly States In John 1;41 . Meaning Anointed ; '' We Have Found The Mrssiah , Which Is Being Interpreted The Christ '' . The Hebrew Word Designates The King Who Was To Come , The Promised Messiah .

Taken From ; Catholic Encyclopedia .

( 3 ) . Christ ----- Greek Christos '' Anointed '' Equivalent To The Hebrew Meshiach , '' Messish '' . Anointed '' The Official Title Of Of Nazareth Designating Him As '' The Messiah '' Or '' Promised One Of The Old Testement '' . In Messianic Prophecy The Term Came To Be Applied Specifically To The Messiah Who , As Prophet , Priest , And King Was The One Ordained To Be The Redeemer Of The World .

Taken From ; Seventh - Day Adventist Bible Dictionary , Volume 8

( 4 ) . Christ ----- The Jehovah Witnesses Express That Their Allegiance Is To Jesus Christ , The Head Of The Christian Congregation , Who Stated ; '' ... For One Is Your Master , Even Christ '' ( Matthew 23 ; 19 ) . Taken From ; ' Christ Actively Leads His Congregation '' The Watchtower , August 1 , 1987 . A.D. The Following Terms Are Derived From The Word '' Christ '' ;

The Following Terms Are Derived From The Word Christ '' Christ ''

Christ - Like --

Christendom --- Christianity ; The Part Of The World In Which Christianity Prevails .

Christian --- Of Or Relating To Christianity

Christianity --- The Religion Derived From Jesus Christ Based On The Bible As Professed By Easter , Roman Catholic And Protestant Bodies .

Christmas --- A Christian Feast On December 25 , Or Among Eastern Orthodox On January 7 , That Commemorates The Birth Of Christ And Is Usually Observed As A Holiday , ( Both Are Incorrect Dates )

Ted;912469 wrote: Daniyal:-6

I have checked many times. The fact is there is much dispute among scholars on the original language of "Revelation". Some say it is Greek and some say it is Aramaic. Presently I fall in with the group that goes with Greek. Could I be wrong? Yes. Does it matter? Not really.

I'm not sure what there is to discuss about Revelation. It is a very deep criticism of the Roman Empire, nothing more and nothing less. The symbolism was long ago lost in antiquity. Then one also has to contend with the editorializing, redactions, additions and deletions and of course copying errors.

Shalom

Ted:-6




Read The Above Post Ok .



If your so sure about what you believe is dealing with the facts why not discuss revelation . But if you wish not to it cool

Daniyal:-6

You are playing word games again. We all know that Jesus was not born on Dec. 25 and I'm not sure that anyone cares. If we are to have any discussion we need some substance not a play on words.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Daniyal:-6

When it comes to a discussion of Revelation we are not dealing with facts we are dealing with metaphor, allegory etc.

The second point I would like to make is that I am not interested in a slugging match and that is what I see you doing elsewhere. 'Put downs' have no place in a decent discussion. I am sure that you have some valuable knowledge to impart and some good ideas to discuss, but the impression I get is that you seem to think you have all the answers and after the years I've spent in formal education that is a self deluding position.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Ted;912477 wrote: Daniyal:-6

You are playing word games again. We all know that Jesus was not born on Dec. 25 and I'm not sure that anyone cares. If we are to have any discussion we need some substance not a play on words.

Shalom

Ted:-6


Come On I Though You Were Better Then That

It's Not The Things One Knows That Get Him Or Her In Trouble , Its The Things One Knows That Just Isn't So That Get Them In Trouble ...



Substance -- What You Really Mean Is Tell You What You Want To Hear , You Deal In Belief I Deal In Facts . Like I Said If You Wish If Not No Big Thengs . But If We Do This I'm Not Reading No Website Links Ok .

Ted;912478 wrote: Daniyal:-6

When it comes to a discussion of Revelation we are not dealing with facts we are dealing with metaphor, allegory etc.

The second point I would like to make is that I am not interested in a slugging match and that is what I see you doing elsewhere. 'Put downs' have no place in a decent discussion. I am sure that you have some valuable knowledge to impart and some good ideas to discuss, but the impression I get is that you seem to think you have all the answers and after the years I've spent in formal education that is a self deluding position.

Shalom

Ted:-6




lolololololololololol I Have Never Claim I Know Everything But What I Know I Know But Thanks Anyway . Overstand Something The Diffrent Between You And Christians , You Were Told What To Believe I Wasn't .

Daniyal:-6

I am not surprised by your response. It simply demonstrates what I said.

As far as your guess as to what I am wanting to 'hear' you are so far from the truth. You have no idea.

Change your attitude and I might like to engage you in a discussion.

Have a nice day.

Shalom

Ted

Ted;912483 wrote: Daniyal:-6

I am not surprised by your response. It simply demonstrates what I said.

As far as your guess as to what I am wanting to 'hear' you are so far from the truth. You have no idea.

Change your attitude and I might like to engage you in a discussion.

Have a nice day.

Shalom

Ted




Talk Is Cheat Land Cost Money Later :driving:

Whatever.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Daniyal;912474 wrote: WEBSITE LINK LOLOLOLOLOLOL I SEE

It a know Face that Yashu'a never spoke greek nor latin nor english . And this is why .Oh Daniyal, it's so sad to see this degree of degeneracy. We're talking about the Book of Revelation, remember? It wasn't written by Jesus, if there ever was a Jesus. Did you think it was?

It's how long now since your spiritual guide was taken from you? Four years? Five? Have you any idea how far downhill you've collectively slipped since you lost his guidance?

Let me draw you a parallel about mirror-thinking. The leaders of the US, for example, have wanted since at least the forties to spread their ideology to every country on the planet. So what do they do to disguise their desire? They make up an enemy and say "The Soviets want to spread their ideology to every country on the planet". The US destabilizes the political process in elections and they hide this by saying the Soviets are out destabilizing elections. The US intervenes militarily in countries left and right and hide behind a ludicrous claim that each time they're circumventing Soviet military intervention.

Now, recognize the mirror-thinking in what you've fallen to as a group because it's no different. You throw out "WEBSITE LINK LOLOLOLOLOLOL I SEE " as a defence when someone uses an online bible or an online dictionary or an online concordance as a tool. You insist that people throw away belief - this is good, by the way, I approve of thinking, I disapprove of religious dogma "Which Keep Them Closed Minded". But all you keep doing is cross-posting the words of Dr. Malachi Z. York! I can't believe the futility of continually posting his words everywhere instead of thinking for yourselves! You ask me bible questions - what was Leviathan, for example - but they're his questions, not yours! You can't even, after just four years without him, come out with fresh questions, you just recycle what he left you with.No-Website -Link's , Let See How Close You Get Ok .

Ques ; Can Anyone Else Die For Your Sins ?

Ques ; If Jesus Died For Man's Sins Then Why Are People Sill Sinning ?Who's questions are they? Who wrote them? You? No, you're in mirror-land, you accuse people of your own greatest failings to disguise your own failed actions. You COPIED the questions.

You copied the questions so you wouldn't have to bother to think up answers. You copied the questions because you're lazy and tired and you're just obeying by rote. You're not thinking for yourselves any longer. You just use mirror-speak like "Almost 80% Of Your Post Come From Some Website , Could It Be That Your The One Who Hasn't A Thought Of Your Own" to deflect the accurate observation that that's all you do yourselves.

Who wrote the Leviathan question, Daniyal? You? Or did you copy it off some website? "Everytime You Post A Website , And Not Use Your Own Words , My Point Will Be Made".

"Show Me Where I'm Geting My Out-formation From"?

If I put a real question all of my own to you, can you dig up a truthful answer? Because it's about belief and faith and experience, it's not about copying questions you didn't write to people who use online bible resources just so you can mock them for not knowing the answer from the crib-sheet.

Here it is then, real question: What's the name of the Eloheem from the 8th planet called RIZQ In The 19th Galaxy Illyuwn who currently lives on earth?

Because when you tell me, I'm going to ask how you know. We're enquiring into belief and faith and the blind acceptance of teaching.

spot;912558 wrote: Oh Daniyal, it's so sad to see this degree of degeneracy. We're talking about the Book of Revelation, remember? It wasn't written by Jesus, if there ever was a Jesus. Did you think it was?

It's how long now since your spiritual guide was taken from you? Four years? Five? Have you any idea how far downhill you've collectively slipped since you lost his guidance?

Let me draw you a parallel about mirror-thinking. The leaders of the US, for example, have wanted since at least the forties to spread their ideology to every country on the planet. So what do they do to disguise their desire? They make up an enemy and say "The Soviets want to spread their ideology to every country on the planet". The US destabilizes the political process in elections and they hide this by saying the Soviets are out destabilizing elections. The US intervenes militarily in countries left and right and hide behind a ludicrous claim that each time they're circumventing Soviet military intervention.

Now, recognize the mirror-thinking in what you've fallen to as a group because it's no different. You throw out "WEBSITE LINK LOLOLOLOLOLOL I SEE " as a defence when someone uses an online bible or an online dictionary or an online concordance as a tool. You insist that people throw away belief - this is good, by the way, I approve of thinking, I disapprove of religious dogma "Which Keep Them Closed Minded". But all you keep doing is cross-posting the words of Dr. Malachi Z. York! I can't believe the futility of continually posting his words everywhere instead of thinking for yourselves! You ask me bible questions - what was Leviathan, for example - but they're his questions, not yours! You can't even, after just four years without him, come out with fresh questions, you just recycle what he left you with.No-Website -Link's , Let See How Close You Get Ok .

Ques ; Can Anyone Else Die For Your Sins ?

Ques ; If Jesus Died For Man's Sins Then Why Are People Sill Sinning ?Who's questions are they? Who wrote them? You? No, you're in mirror-land, you accuse people of your own greatest failings to disguise your own failed actions. You COPIED the questions.

You copied the questions so you wouldn't have to bother to think up answers. You copied the questions because you're lazy and tired and you're just obeying by rote. You're not thinking for yourselves any longer. You just use mirror-speak like "Almost 80% Of Your Post Come From Some Website , Could It Be That Your The One Who Hasn't A Thought Of Your Own" to deflect the accurate observation that that's all you do yourselves.

Who wrote the Leviathan question, Daniyal? You? Or did you copy it off some website? "Everytime You Post A Website , And Not Use Your Own Words , My Point Will Be Made".

"Show Me Where I'm Geting My Out-formation From"?

If I put a real question all of my own to you, can you dig up a truthful answer? Because it's about belief and faith and experience, it's not about copying questions you didn't write to people who use online bible resources just so you can mock them for not knowing the answer from the crib-sheet.

Here it is then, real question: What's the name of the Eloheem from the 8th planet called RIZQ In The 19th Galaxy Illyuwn who currently lives on earth?

Because when you tell me, I'm going to ask how you know. We're enquiring into belief and faith and the blind acceptance of teaching.




Oh I'm going to love to answer this one , be back

spot;912558 wrote: Oh Daniyal, it's so sad to see this degree of degeneracy. We're talking about the Book of Revelation, remember? It wasn't written by Jesus, if there ever was a Jesus. Did you think it was?

It's how long now since your spiritual guide was taken from you? Four years? Five? Have you any idea how far downhill you've collectively slipped since you lost his guidance?

Let me draw you a parallel about mirror-thinking. The leaders of the US, for example, have wanted since at least the forties to spread their ideology to every country on the planet. So what do they do to disguise their desire? They make up an enemy and say "The Soviets want to spread their ideology to every country on the planet". The US destabilizes the political process in elections and they hide this by saying the Soviets are out destabilizing elections. The US intervenes militarily in countries left and right and hide behind a ludicrous claim that each time they're circumventing Soviet military intervention.

Now, recognize the mirror-thinking in what you've fallen to as a group because it's no different. You throw out "WEBSITE LINK LOLOLOLOLOLOL I SEE " as a defence when someone uses an online bible or an online dictionary or an online concordance as a tool. You insist that people throw away belief - this is good, by the way, I approve of thinking, I disapprove of religious dogma "Which Keep Them Closed Minded". But all you keep doing is cross-posting the words of Dr. Malachi Z. York! I can't believe the futility of continually posting his words everywhere instead of thinking for yourselves! You ask me bible questions - what was Leviathan, for example - but they're his questions, not yours! You can't even, after just four years without him, come out with fresh questions, you just recycle what he left you with.No-Website -Link's , Let See How Close You Get Ok .

Ques ; Can Anyone Else Die For Your Sins ?

Ques ; If Jesus Died For Man's Sins Then Why Are People Sill Sinning ?Who's questions are they? Who wrote them? You? No, you're in mirror-land, you accuse people of your own greatest failings to disguise your own failed actions. You COPIED the questions.

You copied the questions so you wouldn't have to bother to think up answers. You copied the questions because you're lazy and tired and you're just obeying by rote. You're not thinking for yourselves any longer. You just use mirror-speak like "Almost 80% Of Your Post Come From Some Website , Could It Be That Your The One Who Hasn't A Thought Of Your Own" to deflect the accurate observation that that's all you do yourselves.

Who wrote the Leviathan question, Daniyal? You? Or did you copy it off some website? "Everytime You Post A Website , And Not Use Your Own Words , My Point Will Be Made".

"Show Me Where I'm Geting My Out-formation From"?

If I put a real question all of my own to you, can you dig up a truthful answer? Because it's about belief and faith and experience, it's not about copying questions you didn't write to people who use online bible resources just so you can mock them for not knowing the answer from the crib-sheet.

Here it is then, real question: What's the name of the Eloheem from the 8th planet called RIZQ In The 19th Galaxy Illyuwn who currently lives on earth?

Because when you tell me, I'm going to ask how you know. We're enquiring into belief and faith and the blind acceptance of teaching.




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1 What race was Jesus ?

2 . Who carried the cross ?

3 . The wisemen .

4 . What laws did Jesus follow ?

5 . Who was Jesus father ?

6 . The day of Pentecost .

7 . Saint Paul ; Discople or Deceiver ?

8 . The Holy Shorud ; Fact or Fiction ?

9 . The final messenger ; Christ the final word .

10 . Which Jesus do you follow ?

11 . Who was the Messiah ?

12 . The Resurrection .

13 . Could Jesus transform himself ?

14 . Who was Jesus sent to ?

15 . The real Messiah .

16 . Was Jesus The Son Of God ?

17 . Was Christ Crucified ?

18 . Was Jesus The Son Of God Or The Son Of Man ?

19 . Who was The Messiah Jesus ?

20 . The Missing years of Jesus .

21 . The untold story of Jesus The Messiah ?

22 . Who was The Comforter ?

23 . Christianity The Political Religion .

24 . Jesus disciple ; For or against him ?

25 . On this rock I build my church .

26 . The death of Mary the mother of Jesus .

27 . Translation of the book of Revelation word for word with explanation .

28 . Translation of the book of John .

29 . Translation of the book of Barnabas .

30 . Ahmad ; Jesus ' Succesor's .

31 . Is Jesus The God Of The Koran ?

32 . Is Haile Sellassie Christ ?

33 . '' GOD '' God '' god ; What is the difference ?

34 . Be prepared for The Anti - Christ ?

35 . What is speaking in tongues ?

36 . Glory of Jesus The Messiah .

37 . The real Jesus .

38 . Does The Testament Contradict The Koran ?

39 . Is Jesus God ?



Now I Doubt If You Have Read Any Of The Above Book's . And Thats Because It Doesn't Fall In Line With Your School Of Thought . You Rather Have Faith / Belief's / Believe , Now That Cool If That What You Want , I Rather Deal With Fact's . When I First Started Posting You Came With Your Little Insult , When I Said You Don't Know Anything Except What Your Getting From Your Favor Website , Now Your Upset / Thin-Skin . You Even Went As Far As Stateing How You Were Going To Bannd Me Etc Etc . Now Your Talking About Discussioning Things. When I Gave You , Your Chance You Blow It Because You Try To Make The Verse You Gave Me Had Something To Do With Jesus Die / Dying For Your Sins , When We Both Know It Had Nothing To Do With Jesus Die / Dying For Anyone Sins . These Are The Type Trick You Play When Don't Have An Answer .



You Speak Of U.S. And "The Soviets Yes ? You Don't Know Anything , Other What The Media Told You To Believe / Accept , Did You Investigate These Things Other Media / Website Etc . Your Own-self No So Stop It AND BY THE WAY DON'T COME WITH THAT ANTI BULL CRAP OK . And You Keep Asking Me Do I Have My Own Thought's , Hummmm Maybe You Should Ask Your Own Self That Question. Dr. M.Z.York Is My Teacher , Rather You Believe It Or Not I Investigate Whatever He Says . Then I Diside . Unlike You , No Way Can You Say You Have The Truth Because Every Christian Are Not Taught The Same Thing , And You Know This To Be The Truth .



You Also Speak Of Me Asking Bible Question Yes. Maybe You Should Ask More Question And Not Run To These Website , That Only Telling You What You Want To Hear , When There Other Christian Don't Believe The Same As You Do . Bottom Line Here Your Not Allow To Question Your Teacher Because He Or She Will Say , You Not To Question The Words Of God . When They Know For Fact Your Not Questioning God , Your Questioning Him / Her , What They Fear Is Loseing Controling Of The People Of Their Church And All That Money They Are Geting . You Can Help To Know / See Religion Is Big Business These Days . You Ask Me What Website Are You Getting Your Information Are You Joking , Just Go Back To Those Post Where You Refer To Your Favor Wevsire ( And There You Go ) . Better Yet The Next Time You Refer Some One To A Website They We'll See Who Lying Wont We .





Answer To Your Question On Planet RIZQ . M.Z.York Written A Book Call Man From Planet RIZQ. Also Their A Book Call The Holy Tablets That Speaks Of Planet Rizq In Detail . LOLOLOLOLOLOL .. Now If Your Truely Interested By The Book . That If You Wan The Facts And Not Belief/ Faith / Hope .



Eveything I Post Can Be Found With A Little Rearch Dealing With Facts Only . Unlike Your By -Bill Which Is Man Made / Created By Your Socalled Authors / Religous Scholar / Theologian .





Ques: What do Nuwaubians believe?

Ans: Many have asked “just what do the Nuwaubians believe? Let’s first define the words “believe and “belief. According to the online dictionary at www.dictionary.com the word believe is defined as:

Believe v.

v. tr.

To accept as true or real: Do you believe the news stories?

To credit with veracity: I believe you.

To expect or suppose; think: I believe they will arrive shortly.

v. intr.

To have firm faith, especially religious faith.

To have faith, confidence, or trust: I believe in your ability to solve the problem.

To have confidence in the truth or value of something: We believe in free speech.

To have an opinion; think: They have already left, I believe.

Belief n.

The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another: My belief in you is as strong as ever.

Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something: His explanation of what happened defies belief.

Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons.

Nuwaubians don’t believe. We investigate or don’t accept. To believe is to accept things you do not know, which is ignorance. Hence belief is ignorance. K-N-O-W is the root word of knowledge and Nuwaubians seek to know. Nuwaubians learn to distinguish between claims and substantiated facts and keep the facts as the truth, as goodness, into our way of doing all things. We follow the experience of past events. We can see what does not work and know that eternal struggle is the price of survival. The winners of such struggles are those who organize and work together; who have a plan, and practice teamwork.

Nuwaubians want only the facts. We must measure everything from our own point of view, that is, from where we can see it and overstand it. In ous eyes, there is nothing that you can’t find, but you must do research. Then and only then will you not be fooled by fools. We often state “Give us facts – not beliefs.



The Alphabets

Always be the positive person.

Be yourself and others will see the best in you.

Communicate with others positively. It’s the lack of communication that causes all problems.

Don’t be the troublemaker. You do not always have to be right.

Effort always pays off

Follow your instincts, they are usually right.

Give your best in all you do.

Help others to help themselves.

Introduce the positive thoughts, ideas, and actions.

Join in on positive things, Help to solve the problems; don’t become the problem.

Keep a positive mind and outlook.

Listen to your inner voice if it tells you what’s right by all and not just yourself.

Maintain the peace and a peaceful outlook.

Never leave a job incomplete.

Offer assistance whenever you can.

Participate in community events.

Questions lead to the facts.

Remember, you’re never alone, if you’re kind, considerate, and unselfish.

Stand for what is right.

Teach, don’t preach.

Utilize all your potentials.

Victory and success come only from hard work.

Work with all your heart.

Xenophobia, that is: the fear and hatred of foreigners, is nothing more than an insecurity that you don’t need.

You’re the master of your destiny. You are the cause of your problems.

Zeal is healthy for success.



We accept as fact the eternal laws of nature as revealed through science, past events, logic, and common sense revealed as The Right Knowledge, The Right Wisdom, and The Right Overstanding.

We accept as fact the highest laws of nature is the cooperation and harmony of all living things.

We accept as fact our way of life as a means to the best end.

We accept as fact that loyalty is the greatest of all honours and treason is the worst of all crimes.

We accept as fact that what is good for all Nuwaubian males and all Nuwaubian females, is the highest virtue and what is bad for us is the ultimate evil.

We accept as fact that the community is the finest and noblest organization for all humanity created by circumstances.

We accept as fact that creativity, love, and cooperation are the essence of success.

We accept as fact that truth and facts are always and has always been, the originator and creator of all success.

We accept as fact that all worthwhile cultures and civilizations came about from the ancient Egiptians and Sumerians.

We accept as fact that for the Nuwaubians, to survive, expand and advance we need first of all, a revolution of values and thoughts which must start within each person by being truthful with themselves and about themselves. Therefore, we completely and categorically reject all myths, fictions, false religions and lies that have not been proven. We deal strictly with facts. If you can't prove it we don't want to hear it, that doesn't mean we won't listen to you, just don't expect us to accept your beliefs by virtue of a title such as reverend, pastor, deacon, bishop, imaam, sheikh, rabbi, minister, theologian, etc. that is your sensationalism and we deal with just the facts.

We accept as fact that the only true revolution is a war of good against evil, right against wrong, fairness against unfairness, loyalty against disloyalty, sincerity against insincerity, honesty against dishonesty; and this war is fought within each person amongst the agreeable and disagreeable beings that make up your will power.

We accept as fact that the unity of our community and its success will only happen with cooperation with all involved.

We accept as fact the total unification of all humanity on the basis of truth. That is: accepting people and races for who and what they are, respecting their culture, their languages, and their beliefs; and expect the same.

We accept as fact that the human race, its biological and cultural heritage is now under attack by our own morals, our self-righteousness, our desire to control industry; and these things attack the very existence of humanity.

We accept as fact that males as well as females are equal in all things and should be dealt with as partners in all matters.

We accept as fact that no one race of people is better than the other. In fact, no one wins the race in racism.

We accept as fact that communication between different people is the cure to the ignorance that breeds the disease hate.

We accept as fact that a good and well-rounded education could prevent most of the ignorance that plagues the world.

We accept as fact that All is just that, All. You can't take from All, you can't add to All. We are all within All as one.

( Are The Nuwaubians A Cult? )



Nuwaubians have often been referred to as just another religious cult. This is an attempt to defame, discredit, and label us as such out of fear of the possibility that we may succeed in what has been called the impossible for 400 years; bringing people of all races, religions and ethnic backgrounds together in a harmonious, peaceful, prosperous, community environment, void of the everyday crimes that plague so many of our communities. So before we answer the questions, let’s examine the information surrounding the word “cult.

Usage of the word cult:

The term "cult is generally used as a hateful snarl word that is intended to intentionally devalue people and the new faith groups that they have chosen to follow. It tends to associate thousands of benign religious groups with the handful of destructive religious groups that have caused loss of life. The term often creates fear and loathing among the public, and contributes greatly to religious intolerance in North America. The word "cult," particularly as used by the media, carries a heavy emotional content. The term suggests that this is a group that you should detest, avoid, and fear.

Quotations about cults:

...one person's cult is another's religion; all religions begin life as cults. An alternative definition is that a cult is a religion which you happen to dislike." Anthony Campbell

"Cult is a word without much use outside the realm of religious mudslinging." Philip Kennicott

"When someone uses the word 'cult,' it usually says more about them than the group," J. Gordon Melton, founder and director of The Institute for the Study of American Religion.

"It's easy to tell the difference - a cult is someone else's religion. Corollary: "A fanatic is someone who believes something more strongly than you do." Jim Heldberg

"I have often thought that the difference between a cult and a religion is an IRS ruling." Ron Barrier

In history:

Fear and dislike of new religious movements, coupled with increased respect for established faith groups with a long history, has been with us for at least two millennia.

During the first century, many people in the Roman Empire rejected Christianity because it was new, and valued Judaism because of its ancient history. Today, some established religions criticize new religions simply because they are new and teach different beliefs.

During the first century, some politicians spread rumors that Christians engaged in orgies during their love feasts, and sacrificed infants to their God. During the 1980s and early 1990s, many Christians believed that Pagans, Satanist, and other small religious groups engaged in orgies and ritual abuse and human sacrifices.

Meanings of the word “cult:

Individuals and organizations have assigned many meanings to the word "cult." The result is mass confusion:

The Counter-cult movement (CCM) classifies all non-traditional Christian faith groups as cults simply because their beliefs differ from historical Christian doctrine. The term "cult" has, in many ways, replaced "heretic" or "non-traditional," or "unconventional" within the CCM. Examples of commonly attacked faith groups or denominations are: Seven Day Adventists and Mormons.

Some Fundamentalist and other Evangelical Christians describe most non-Christian religions as cults or as Satanic religions, simply because they are non-Christian. Examples are religions as different as Wicca and Hinduism.

The largely secular Anti-Cult Movement (ACM) mainly targets religious groups that make high demands on their membership. They are accused of mind control or brainwashing techniques which reduce their members to near zombie-like status, who are unable to think clearly and become trapped within the group. Examples of religions targeted by the ACM are the Jehovah’s Witnessess and the Two-by-twos. Studies by mental health researchers indicate that the charges of the ACM have little or no merit.

Many information sources use the term "cult" to refer to the few destructive, doomsday religious groups whose members have been murdered or committed suicide. Examples are The Solar Temple and Heaven’s Gate.



Dictionary definition:

Let’s define the word “cult. According to the online dictionary at www.dictionary.com the word cult is defined as:

Cult n.



A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

The followers of such a religion or sect.

A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.

A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.



Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.

The object of such devotion.

An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

Now back to the question “Are the Nuwaubians a cult?. The answer is simply NO! Nuwaubians can not possibly be a cult because we are not a religion or a religious sect (see Who Are The Nuwaubians?). None of the above applies. Nuwaubians are people worldwide who seek facts and live normal conventional lives. Most organized religions such as Christianity and its many sects, Islam and its many sects, and Judaism and its many sects fit into definitions 5 thru 6, however those same organized religions are not considered cults. Definition 6 is also inclusive of a wide variety of groups and businesses, yet, they are not labeled as cults.

Suggestions:

We recommend that people develop a healthy skepticism when they hear someone refer to religious groups as a "cult". A new faith group may be being attacked:

because they don't believe in the Trinity, or

because they are non-Christian, like two thirds of the world's population, or

because they expect a major commitment from their membership, or

because they are one of those rare, destructive, doomsday groups that have shown themselves to be dangerous to their membership.

We recommend that people refer to religious groups by name. If a term is needed to characterize non-traditional religious groups, we suggest a neutral phrase, like "new religious movement," or "emerging faith group." None of this applies to Nuwaubians.





( The Nuwaubian State of Mind )



Nuwaubu is the sound right reasoning, facts beyond any doubt, all facts no fiction. Nuwaubu is right knowledge, right wisdom, and right overstanding. It takes you above persons, places, and things. It is our spiritual effective science. Nuwaubu is evidence, experience, and reason.



Nuwaubians learn to distinguish between claims and substantiated facts.



Nuwaubu is based on the eternal laws of nature, reality, past events, logic, and common sense. It is the human being’s natural religion.



Nuwaubians keep the facts as the truth, as goodness, into our way of doing all things.



Nuwaubians follow the experience of past events. We can see what does not work. Eternal struggle is the price of survival. The winners of such struggles are those who organize and work together; who have a plan, who practice teamwork.



Nuwaubians want only the facts. We must measure everything from our own point of view, that is, from where we can see it and overstand it.



Nuwaubians don’t believe – We investigate or don’t accept.



In a Nuwaubian’s eyes, there is nothing that you can’t find, but you must do research. Then and only then will you not be fooled by fools.



Nuwaubians state “Give us facts – not beliefs



Nuwaubians are intelligent to question and seek facts and avoid sensationalisms and fictions.



Nuwaubians do not whimper, complain or indulge in self-pity, but instead face problems realistically, gets to the root of the problems and determines to solve them.



A Nuwaubian is not gullable and does not easily accept any statement, belief, assertion or assumption that to him is lacking in proof and/or is unreasonable in the light of his own experiences.



Nuwaubians are problem solvers, achievers, and producers.



Nuwaubians accept as fact that truth and facts are always and have always been the originator and creator of all success.



“To think is a gift – don’t misuse it today and don’t under use it. – Saying of Dr. Malachi Z. York.

The mirror-deflection comparison with the US in its finger-pointing at the Soviets is entirely my idea, as far as I know, but I'd love to see a website with something similar so that I can see someone else experiment with it. I think it has an underlying solidity.

I have, of course, read a small number of those 400+ books, and a dreary time I had of it too. Your teacher was stung by the most amoral people in the country, the FBI, whose word I wouldn't accept on any topic even if they slit their own throats while swearing it was factual. The best argument in favour of Dr Malachi Z York being a real live 100% alien is his utter naivety in accepting that faked plea-bargain while he was railroaded into his life sentence instead of spitting into any eye that came within range. I watched his Passion videos, he has my entire sympathy, for all I know he's a good chap doing the best he could for the people who gathered to him. It still doesn't mean that the universe works the way that clap-trap science fiction story-telling claims it works.

I expect if you took him aside and quietly asked him, man to man, what he was thinking of when he put those stories about, he'd say it was a parable to laugh at the fools outside, rather like his green men rusting and his Caucasians being subhuman. As a parable to laugh at the fools outside it quite likely works, I'm not going to waste my life delving into his practice to find out. Life, for the non-alien among us, is too short to waste like that.

I'd not dream of deleting that post, it's the longest sustained original writing I've ever seen posted from your organization, I didn't know it was allowed. Maybe the others just aren't as good at thinking.

So, what's the name of the Eloheem from the 8th planet called RIZQ In The 19th Galaxy Illyuwn who currently lives on earth?

Because when you tell me, I'm going to ask how you know. We're enquiring into belief and faith and the blind acceptance of teaching. You investigate whatever he says. Then you decide. I want to know how you came to your conclusion - whether it was a belief in his honesty, or a knowledge of the truth of his statements because you lived it with him, or indirect experience. You call it informed belief, I'm interested in the way belief can be informed if it has no direct experience to back it.

spot;912967 wrote: The mirror-deflection comparison with the US in its finger-pointing at the Soviets is entirely my idea, as far as I know, but I'd love to see a website with something similar so that I can see someone else experiment with it. I think it has an underlying solidity.

I have, of course, read a small number of those 400+ books, and a dreary time I had of it too. Your teacher was stung by the most amoral people in the country, the FBI, whose word I wouldn't accept on any topic even if they slit their own throats while swearing it was factual. The best argument in favour of Dr Malachi Z York being a real live 100% alien is his utter naivety in accepting that faked plea-bargain while he was railroaded into his life sentence instead of spitting into any eye that came within range. I watched his Passion videos, he has my entire sympathy, for all I know he's a good chap doing the best he could for the people who gathered to him. It still doesn't mean that the universe works the way that clap-trap science fiction story-telling claims it works.

I expect if you took him aside and quietly asked him, man to man, what he was thinking of when he put those stories about, he'd say it was a parable to laugh at the fools outside, rather like his green men rusting and his Caucasians being subhuman. As a parable to laugh at the fools outside it quite likely works, I'm not going to waste my life delving into his practice to find out. Life, for the non-alien among us, is too short to waste like that.

I'd not dream of deleting that post, it's the longest sustained original writing I've ever seen posted from your organization, I didn't know it was allowed. Maybe the others just aren't as good at thinking.

So, what's the name of the Eloheem from the 8th planet called RIZQ In The 19th Galaxy Illyuwn who currently lives on earth?

Because when you tell me, I'm going to ask how you know. We're enquiring into belief and faith and the blind acceptance of teaching. You investigate whatever he says. Then you decide. I want to know how you came to your conclusion - whether it was a belief in his honesty, or a knowledge of the truth of his statements because you lived it with him, or indirect experience. You call it informed belief, I'm interested in the way belief can be informed if it has no direct experience to back it.




LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL This funny you sound upset . I Gave You The Link's / Website For Those Want Check Out Whole Story They Check It Out If not they'll listen to your small bites and accept it . One Thing For Sure Until You Can Prove Any Of Your People From By -Bill Existed It Nothing Be Belief And Belief Infer . Doubt . :wah:

Daniyal;913326 wrote: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL This funny you sound upset . I Gave You The Link's / Website For Those Want Check Out Whole Story They Check It Out If not they'll listen to your small bites and accept it . One Thing For Sure Until You Can Prove Any Of Your People From By -Bill Existed It Nothing Be Belief And Belief Infer . Doubt . :wah:


You just haven't got what it takes to listen, have you. I don't even think Jesus existed much less the rest of the Bible's cast. Pilate, I'll give you Pilate and an assortment of Herods but Abraham, for example, Abraham's right out. What does that have to do with the truth of Christianity? Christianity is an experiential religion. I say the words and they might as well not be said, you walk straight past them.

What's the name of the Eloheem from the 8th planet called RIZQ In The 19th Galaxy Illyuwn who currently lives on earth?

spot;913335 wrote: You just haven't got what it takes to listen, have you. I don't even think Jesus existed much less the rest of the Bible's cast. Pilate, I'll give you Pilate and an assortment of Herods but Abraham, for example, Abraham's right out. What does that have to do with the truth of Christianity? Christianity is an experiential religion. I say the words and they might as well not be said, you walk straight past them.

What's the name of the Eloheem from the 8th planet called RIZQ In The 19th Galaxy Illyuwn who currently lives on earth?




Christianity is an experiential religion. Hummmmmmmmmmm oKKKKKK

Daniyal;915514 wrote: Christianity is an experiential religion. Hummmmmmmmmmm oKKKKKK


Some people wrote some stories about a teacher-figure they called Jesus. It might have been imaginative story-telling like the stories of Brer Rabbit. It might have included a few things that happened to several different people, all brought under the umbrella of one named character "Jesus". It might even have been an interpretation of events in one adult man's history with some myths thrown in about his childhood, who can tell. They wrote these stories some time before 130AD, probably in reaction to the Romans emptying Palestine of Jews. Some of the writers may have been Jewish.

The stories gave us a Jesus with a world-view. That world-view maps wonderfully on various spiritual practices which anyone at all can exercise with. They open windows into experiences which in turn provide re-interpretation of the stories. It's a feedback system which enables an exploration of the inner space of a person. It's called Christianity. It's not called the (Roman/Jerusalem/Ephesian/Orthodox/Russian) Church, those are all parasites which grew out of empire and power-building. Bad cess to them all, may they wither and their corrupt bits drop off painfully.

None of those Churches necessarily have anything to do with Christianity, though some of their Christian members engage in these spiritual practices I mentioned. Christianity is an application of the stories of the life and acts and sayings of Christ to the life of the Christian. It changes the way people behave. It's all entirely experiential. It has no beliefs at all, no masters forcing anyone to do or think anything - that's the Churches you're thinking of. By all means pour cold water on the Churches. I'm describing the application of faith.

spot;915533 wrote: Some people wrote some stories about a teacher-figure they called Jesus. It might have been imaginative story-telling like the stories of Brer Rabbit. It might have included a few things that happened to several different people, all brought under the umbrella of one named character "Jesus". It might even have been an interpretation of events in one adult man's history with some myths thrown in about his childhood, who can tell. They wrote these stories some time before 130AD, probably in reaction to the Romans emptying Palestine of Jews. Some of the writers may have been Jewish.

The stories gave us a Jesus with a world-view. That world-view maps wonderfully on various spiritual practices which anyone at all can exercise with. They open windows into experiences which in turn provide re-interpretation of the stories. It's a feedback system which enables an exploration of the inner space of a person. It's called Christianity. It's not called the (Roman/Jerusalem/Ephesian/Orthodox/Russian) Church, those are all parasites which grew out of empire and power-building. Bad cess to them all, may they wither and their corrupt bits drop off painfully.

None of those Churches necessarily have anything to do with Christianity, though some of their Christian members engage in these spiritual practices I mentioned. Christianity is an application of the stories of the life and acts and sayings of Christ to the life of the Christian. It changes the way people behave. It's all entirely experiential. It has no beliefs at all, no masters forcing anyone to do or think anything - that's the Churches you're thinking of. By all means pour cold water on the Churches. I'm describing the application of faith.


Like I Have Been Saying All The Time Created Story's . I Could Tell You Why This Was Done Butt , Why Get Into A Long Draw Thing . .. But Whatever Works For You .

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