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and if so ... why?

Coz 1 set of dangly bits is quite enough to be getting on with :wah:

I find the question more curious than the subject.

People are always trying to pigeon hole others, categorize them and regulate what they should or shouldnt be allowed to do.

As long as children arent involved I dont give a rats ass who is having sex with who.

It just doesnt interest me and I have to wonder about people that have opinions on it. Makes me suspicious of them.

buttercup;890626 wrote: Coz 1 set of dangly bits is quite enough to be getting on with :wah:


O M G!!!

So you wouldent mind either way watching 2 women fondle or two men Nomie baby? :sneaky:

OMG!!!! i'm blushing just reading this thread! :o

buttercup;890639 wrote: So you wouldent mind either way watching 2 women fondle or two men Nomie baby? :sneaky:


My point is its none of my business. I saw 2 guys kissing on a downtown street last month and it was unsettling for me but I didnt judge them.

Who am I to question them ?

I'm not questioning it, i'm just saying i do believe its more socially acceptable for two women than two men (fully naked) because of the dangly bits :wah:



I dont think Jones meant just kissing, did you?

Hope6;890649 wrote: OMG!!!! i'm blushing just reading this thread! :o




Remember there are ladies present boys.

buttercup;890659 wrote: I'm not questioning it, i'm just saying i do believe its more socially acceptable for two women than two men (fully naked) because of the dangly bits :wah:







I dont think Jones meant just kissing, did you?




Maybe...I dont know. I could be wrong but if I had to guess Id say there are more male homosexuals than female homosexuals.

I dont doubt that but if you had to watch one or find one more acceptable, who would you watch or find more acceptable & why?



Its all about the dangly bits i tell you :wah:

buttercup;890668 wrote: I dont doubt that but if you had to watch one or find one more acceptable, who would you watch or find more acceptable & why?





Its all about the dangly bits i tell you :wah:


Ok look if it were 2 beautiful women or 2 men of any type Id pick the women. The fact is that most of the lesbians Ive seen arent what you might hope they would be. Many of them are lets say...rough around the edges and often have an abrasive personality in which case Id rather not see any of it.

Where I come from, anyone that likes p***y can't be too bad.

Thats fair enough but the question is = Is it more socially acceptable for a woman to be bi-sexual than a man?

You just have to say (in your opinion) Yes or No & add why if you want :rolleyes:



Dont be soooooooo serious :-4

hoppy;890690 wrote: Where I come from, anyone that likes p***y can't be too bad.


I'm lost or nieve, what's p***y?

It's a word they wouldn't let me use. Has a u and two ss's in the middle.

buttercup;890693 wrote: I'm lost or nieve, what's p***y?




Cat like Butters - sounds like Wussy :wah::wah:

Oh Duh :wah:

buttercup;890691 wrote: Thats fair enough but the question is = Is it more socially acceptable for a woman to be bi-sexual than a man?

You just have to say (in your opinion) Yes or No & add why if you want :rolleyes:





Dont be soooooooo serious :-4




:wah:

Hee hee...I dont actually have to do anything.

Im Switzerland on the issue.

Have at it, male, female, whatever.

Nomie aren't you supposed to be at work??

[QUOTE]Hee hee...I dont actually have to do anything.

Im Switzerland on the issue.

Have at it, male, female, whatever.[/QUOTE]

More socially acceptable ? Dont know but guess more guys get turned on by girl on girl action than the thought of 2 guys.

Also I think more women are possible of understanding that its about the love of the person more than the love of the gender.

I think if they are loving adults leave them to it.

CARLA;890713 wrote: Nomie aren't you supposed to be at work??


Seriously one of the worst weekends of my life. A hammer whacked me with this head cold. I went in and then asked to go.

Ive got some field work I can do later.

A guy is getting sued and hes trying to hide but hes not doing a very good job of it. Hes having his secretary say hes not in so Ill go and Ill wait. I know where he works, lives and I can have his plates run to verify, I just dont know what he looks like so he could have walked by me and I wouldnt know it.

I have traced his name as probably being Iranian and Ive seen his father who has darker skin so that narrows it down.

Is this way more than you needed ?

Nomie if you have the cold that I had last week you won't be tracking anyone down for a few days. Take care its a nasty virus. Oh Wolverine is fine he has been posting at Frank's site.

[QUOTE]Seriously one of the worst weekends of my life. A hammer whacked me with this head cold. I went in and then asked to go.

Ive got some field work I can do later.

A guy is getting sued and hes trying to hide but hes not doing a very good job of it. Hes having his secretary say hes not in so Ill go and Ill wait. I know where he works, lives and I can have his plates run to verify, I just dont know what he looks like so he could have walked by me and I wouldnt know it.

I have traced his name as probably being Iranian and Ive seen his father who has darker skin so that narrows it down.

Is this way more than you needed ?[/QUOTE]

Im over the worst of it but Im still weak. It was a rough one as I guess you know.

Society as a whole does not find any unconventional behavior acceptable. There are always pockets of people in society who find anything and everything acceptable. The decision to pursue a bi sexual lifestyle is a personal decision, socially acceptable doesnt enter into it. Those who choose a bi sexual lifestyle, dont give a rats ass about what society finds acceptable anyway.

jones jones;890616 wrote: and if so ... why?


Okay JJ, I'll be forthright and give you my opinion although some people aren't going to like it.....

I don't actually know if it IS more socially acceptable to see two women instead of two men, but from my own perspective, lesbians (when exhibiting PDA) don't really bother me. I'm not that uncomfortable with it. But two men doing the same and I don't feel so well. Here comes the part people aren't going to like....with two guys, there are only two places they can put it and one is a little unsavory to a lot of people.

As well, men may be looked on differently in countries where they are more demonstrative with each other; think Italy and how some Italian men kiss each other even if they're straight. It's acceptable there. You won't see that in America. And women are naturally affectionate with each other. Take a look at any 1st grade playground and you'll see little girls holding hands because they're "best friends." It's natural, they think nothing of it. Girls fix each other's hair, hug and kiss, talk sweet to each other, it's how they are. Well in general, I mean. So seeing two lesbians sometimes just seems like an extension of affection between women. It doesn't appear as "weird" to some as two men doing the same.

How'd I do? :-3

With all due respect i dont think thats true Weeder. All of my friends who have chosen a different lifestyle wish their parents / friends / collegues / society found it more acceptable. They do give a rats ass:(

RedGlitter;890799 wrote: Okay JJ, I'll be forthright and give you my opinion although some people aren't going to like it.....



I don't actually know if it IS more socially acceptable to see two women instead of two men, but from my own perspective, lesbians (when exhibiting PDA) don't really bother me. I'm not that uncomfortable with it. But two men doing the same and I don't feel so well. Here comes the part people aren't going to like....with two guys, there are only two places they can put it and one is a little unsavory to a lot of people.



As well, men may be looked on differently in countries where they are more demonstrative with each other; think Italy and how some Italian men kiss each other even if they're straight. It's acceptable there. You won't see that in America. And women are naturally affectionate with each other. Take a look at any 1st grade playground and you'll see little girls holding hands because they're "best friends." It's natural, they think nothing of it. Girls fix each other's hair, hug and kiss, talk sweet to each other, it's how they are. Well in general, I mean. So seeing two lesbians sometimes just seems like an extension of affection between women. It doesn't appear as "weird" to some as two men doing the same.



How'd I do? :-3


Thats a prety good explaination Red.



To take it a step further:



As a straight man if I were to watch porn.. heh heh



Watching straight porn I get to see an naked woman or women



Watching lesbian porn I get to see two females naked



Watching gay men porn I get no naked women so it is a bit icky to say the least.

RedGlitter;890799 wrote: Okay JJ, I'll be forthright and give you my opinion although some people aren't going to like it.....

I don't actually know if it IS more socially acceptable to see two women instead of two men, but from my own perspective, lesbians (when exhibiting PDA) don't really bother me. I'm not that uncomfortable with it. But two men doing the same and I don't feel so well. Here comes the part people aren't going to like....with two guys, there are only two places they can put it and one is a little unsavory to a lot of people.

As well, men may be looked on differently in countries where they are more demonstrative with each other; think Italy and how some Italian men kiss each other even if they're straight. It's acceptable there. You won't see that in America. And women are naturally affectionate with each other. Take a look at any 1st grade playground and you'll see little girls holding hands because they're "best friends." It's natural, they think nothing of it. Girls fix each other's hair, hug and kiss, talk sweet to each other, it's how they are. Well in general, I mean. So seeing two lesbians sometimes just seems like an extension of affection between women. It doesn't appear as "weird" to some as two men doing the same.

How'd I do? :-3




you done very well red ... there are no italians in my family tree (well not as far as i am aware) but the guys ... and i have no brothers only sisters.... so its cousins and uncles mainly ... do hug and kiss when we meet up at family gatherings ...

i know that many men are uncomfortable with this manner of greeting but it is not considered "girlielike" in my family ...

as for the part that puts you off ... i couldn't agree more ... to each his own of course ... but i think if i had the choice and i do ... i'd rather watch a gay female couple before i watched a gay male couple ...

having said that .. i am in the antique and fine art business so i have many gay male customers and they are very very nice people ...

YZGI... :wah:

JJ, thanks. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Your question drew me in because I have often wondered why I'm discomforted by men and not women. You know, tried to figure it out. I have known lesbian women and even had a few make a move on me and although strange it was also flattering for the most part. And I had a good friend who was gay and he and I would go out together for lunch or whatever and he would actively check out other men. That made me uncomfy and that's when I started trying to sort out my reaction because it didn't seem fair.

It all goes back to the bits, nobody wants to see em :wah:

buttercup;890831 wrote: It all goes back to the bits, nobody wants to see em :wah:
Speak for yourself..:wah:

RedGlitter;890826 wrote: YZGI... :wah:

JJ, thanks. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Your question drew me in because I have often wondered why I'm discomforted by men and not women. You know, tried to figure it out. I have known lesbian women and even had a few make a move on me and although strange it was also flattering for the most part. And I had a good friend who was gay and he and I would go out together for lunch or whatever and he would actively check out other men. That made me uncomfy and that's when I started trying to sort out my reaction because it didn't seem fair.




i have a guy who works for me who is very very good looking ... he is married but he looks slightly like feminine in a sort of male way if you know what i mean ...

many of the local gay community who attend our antique auctions go weak at the knees whenever he even walks past them let alone smiles!

the same happens when he and i go out and eat at a restaurant ... only there i guess they think he and i are an item so they are more subtle ... both he and i find this quite funny but sometimes when his wife is with us she gets a bit uptight when she sees the guys checking him out ...

i have wanted to ask him if maybe he is like in the closet but because he is married i haven't ... he also a damn good auctioneer so i don't wanna lose him ...

my point? hell i dunno ... :wah:

YZGI;890844 wrote: Speak for yourself..:wah:




You want to see willy's? :-3

Damn thats a shocker coming from you Yzgi :wah:

buttercup;890848 wrote: You want to see willy's? :-3



Damn thats a shocker coming from you Yzgi :wah:
Um, there must have been something lost in the translation..



I meant , um, I think there is someone who wants to see mine. At least I hope there is one..

buttercup;890848 wrote: You want to see willy's? :-3

Damn thats a shocker coming from you Yzgi :wah:


Indeed! I think he just misunderstood about the " dangly bits" part... some women do a fair bit of dangling, as well. :wah:

I believe it's more of a question of aesthetics... go back in history, to near the decline of the Roman Empire (or back to the ancient Greeks where homosexuality was considered acceptable amongst the elite) , when the male body was considered to be more visually appealing and bi-sexuality was rampant and rather acceptable in society... most works of art back then portraying female bodies, were in fact based on male models... artists essentially just added breasts and removed the "dangly bits"... :wah:

Anyway, in today's society... it's mostly about the beauty of the female body. Nowadays, whether male or female, we tend to perceive the female body as more aesthetic then the male body, in general.

Yes maybe it is more socially acceptable for two women. But then we have a huge porno industry that promotes the image that two women are sexy and fun. It's most mens fantasy after all, and I assume deep down all the man wants to do is prove his sexual prowess in being able to satisfy two women at once. I mean, what a man huh? In reality its the women that please one another though isn't it. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure men wouldn't want to watch actual 'lesbians' at it though.



Not sure I'd want to watch two men though, I sat through Brokeback mountain to see what all the fuss was about. Love??? All seemed a bit brutal to me and I was bored to tears. :wah:



Actually neither floats my boat, two's company, three's a crowd in my book! But each to their own, I don't care what others get up to as long as they don't shove it under my nose.

The majority of people whom I have met, who have stated they are bi sexual

have been exobitionists. Their admission is often stated for shock value.

I dont think theycare what anyone thinks, and I dont think they think too much about their behavior. Now, I do not put homosexuals in the same group.

rjwould;891073 wrote: Whats interesting is that in the porn industry, guys who perform with guys get paid a lot more money and those videos outsell the others. According to HBO's show, "Poracopia, Down in the Valley" that is.



Personally, I couldn't care less what other consenting adults do with each other.


:wah: I'm obviously not looking for porn in the right places then. Where are you looking RJ ?? :-3

weeder;891146 wrote: The majority of people whom I have met, who have stated they are bi sexual

have been exobitionists. Their admission is often stated for shock value.

I dont think theycare what anyone thinks, and I dont think they think too much about their behavior. Now, I do not put homosexuals in the same group.




Thats a good point there Weeder, all the bi sexuals I have met have been the same.



I think it's sad that sex has become just sex, where's the love??? :-2

just to recall the actual thread title,is it more socialy acceptable for girls than boys to be bisexual.so far the posts talk of homosexual acts between men or women,the bisexual thing is a bit different,think of this ,you see 2 purely gay guys snogging,then you see to bi ones first they kiss other guys then turn and kiss a girl,suddenly its not so bad is it,then we see 2 purely homo women kiss each other hmmmm interesting then they turn and kiss a guy!!WOW THAT GUY COULD BE ME!!acceptable?bleedin desirable if you ask me mate!

hoxtonchris;891159 wrote: just to recall the actual thread title,is it more socialy acceptable for girls than boys to be bisexual.so far the posts talk of homosexual acts between men or women,the bisexual thing is a bit different,think of this ,you see 2 purely gay guys snogging,then you see to bi ones first they kiss other guys then turn and kiss a girl,suddenly its not so bad is it,then we see 2 purely homo women kiss each other hmmmm interesting then they turn and kiss a guy!!WOW THAT GUY COULD BE ME!!acceptable?bleedin desirable if you ask me mate!


See, typical bloody man!! :wah:



Ok, so you have two guys kissing, they want a girl to join in, any of you ladies up for this??



Would you men find that exciting? Is it just about numbers or is it that men just like the idea of two women. Is anyone going to admit to having actually been there?

Betty Boop;891164 wrote: See, typical bloody man!! :wah:



Ok, so you have two guys kissing, they want a girl to join in, any of you ladies up for this??



Would you men find that exciting? Is it just about numbers or is it that men just like the idea of two women. Is anyone going to admit to having actually been there?
i should speak for myself i spose,what i see when i see or imagine 2 girls together or 1 girl with 2 men is,,,,,,,,a girl that will not only be up for anything but also i terriffic time indeed.yes betty ime a typical bloke,we spend most of our young lives tormented by the excrusiatingly strong desire for physical contact with the person of our desires(for me women)and when we see a girl that may be up for anything we go overboard!!sorry but its as basic as that ,speaking for myself of course.

been pointed out to me (guess by whom!)that i seem to suggest ime talking about myself as i am now nooooooooooo i meant when i was a young man!!honest

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hoxtonchris;891169 wrote: i should speak for myself i spose,what i see when i see or imagine 2 girls together or 1 girl with 2 men is,,,,,,,,a girl that will not only be up for anything but also i terriffic time indeed.yes betty ime a typical bloke,we spend most of our young lives tormented by the excrusiatingly strong desire for physical contact with the person of our desires(for me women)and when we see a girl that may be up for anything we go overboard!!sorry but its as basic as that ,speaking for myself of course.


Ok then, I'd look at a man thats up for anything and think 'yyeeeeuuugghhh what would I catch' :wah:

hoxtonchris;891173 wrote: been pointed out to me (guess by whom!)that i seem to suggest ime talking about myself as i am now nooooooooooo i meant when i was a young man!!honest

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hoxtonchris;891173 wrote: been pointed out to me (guess by whom!)that i seem to suggest ime talking about myself as i am now nooooooooooo i meant when i was a young man!!honest

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:wah::wah::wah::wah::wah: Hit him Carolly, no better still ban him from coming near you

Carolly;891178 wrote: Well it was years ago he had those thoughts Betty as now his at an age where it would be easier rising the titanic:wah::wah:;)


Oh dear, can I get you some Viagra dear, wouldn't want you going without :D

Betty Boop;891181 wrote: Oh dear, can I get you some Viagra dear, wouldn't want you going without :DNa its ok ......he may swallow it to quick an get a stiff neck instead:wah::wah:

hoxtonchris;891169 wrote: i should speak for myself i spose,what i see when i saw or imagined 2 girls together or 1 girl with 2 men is,,,,,,,,a girl that will not only be up for anything but also i terriffic time indeed.yes betty ime a typical bloke,we spend most of our young lives tormented by the excrusiatingly strong desire for physical contact with the person of our desires(for me women)and when we see a girl that may be up for anything we go overboard!!sorry but its as basic as that ,speaking for myself of course.
just want to add here that i did not mean to upset anybody by saying this and was talking about many years ago when things were so different and alot safer than now and hasten to add that most of the time I would have run a mile as these type of women did worry me abit lol ;)guess at the end of the day like alot of men,alot is just talk:o