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Secrets All Men Keep

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:06 am
by Hope6
Okay guys! it's your turn now! how much of this is true?



"Don't-Tell-the-Wife" Secrets All Men Keep

By Ty Wenger



I was in the ninth grade when I learned a vital lesson about love. My girlfriend at the time, Amy, was stunningly cute, frighteningly smart and armed with a seemingly endless supply of form-fitting angora sweaters. And me? Let's just say I was well aware of my good fortune.

Then one day, as we stood in line for a movie at the mall, Simone Shaw, junior high prom queen, sauntered by. Suddenly Amy turned to me. "Were you looking at her?" she asked. "Do you think she's pretty?"

My mind reeled. Of course I was looking at her! Of course she was pretty! My God, she was Simone Shaw! I paused for a second, then decided to play it straight.

"Well, yeah," I chortled.

Five days later our breakup hit the tabloids (a.k.a. the lunchroom).

There comes a time in every man's life when he discovers the value of hiding the grosser parts of his nature. He starts reciting the sweet nothings you long to hear: "No, honey, I play golf for the exercise." "No, honey, I think you're a great driver." "No, honey, I wasn't looking at that coed washing the car in the rain."

We're not lying, exactly. We're just making things...easier. But Glenn Good, Ph.D., a relationship counselor, disagrees, and maybe he has a point. "These white lies are pretty innocent, but they can turn confusing," he says. "Many women think, If he's lying about himself, is he also lying about something else? Is he having an affair? To establish trust you have to tell the truth about the innocuous stuff."

And so, in the interest of uniting the sexes, we've scoured the country for guys willing to share the private truths they wouldn't normally confess. Some are a bit crass. Some you've always suspected. Some are surprisingly sweet. (Guys don't like to reveal the mushy stuff, either.) But read on, and you may discover that the truth about men isn't all that ugly.

Secret #1: Yes, we fall in lust 10 times a day -- but it doesn't mean we want to leave you

If the oldest question in history is "What's for dinner?" the second oldest is "Were you looking at her?" The answer: Yes -- yes, we were. If you're sure your man doesn't look, it only means he possesses acute peripheral vision.

"When a woman walks by, even if I'm with my girlfriend, my vision picks it up," says Doug LaFlamme, 28, of Laguna Hills, California. "I fight the urge to look, but I just have to. I'm really in trouble if the woman walking by has a low-cut top on."

Granted, we men are well aware that our sizing up the produce doesn't sit well with you, given that we've already gone through the checkout line together. But our passing glances pose no threat.

"It's not that I want to make a move on her," says LaFlamme. "Looking at other women is like a radar that just won't turn off."

Secret #2: We actually do play golf to get away from you

More than 21 million American men play at least one round of golf a year; of those, an astounding 75 percent regularly shoot worse than 90 strokes a round. In other words, they stink. The point is this: "Going golfing" is not really about golf. It's about you, the house, the kids -- and the absence thereof.

"I certainly don't play because I find it relaxing and enjoyable," admits Roland Buckingham, 32, of Lewes, Delaware, whose usual golf score of 105 is a far-from-soothing figure. "As a matter of fact, sometimes by the fourth hole I wish I were back at the house with the kids screaming. But any time I leave the house and don't invite my wife or kids -- whether it's for golf or bowling or picking up roadkill -- I'm just getting away."

Secret #3: We're unnerved by the notion of commitment, even after we've made one to you

This is a dicey one, so first things first: We love you to death. We think you're fantastic. Most of the time we're absolutely thrilled that we've made a lifelong vow of fidelity to you in front of our families, our friends and an expensive videographer.

But most of us didn't spend our formative years thinking, "Gosh, I just can't wait to settle down with a nice girl so we can grow old together." Instead we were obsessed with how many women who resembled Britney Spears we could have sex with before we turned 30. Generally it takes us a few years (or decades) to fully perish that thought.

Secret #4: Earning money makes us feel important

In more than 7.4 million U.S. marriages, the wife earns more than the husband -- almost double the number in 1981. This of course is a terrific development for women in the workplace and warmly embraced by all American men, right? Right?

Yeah, well, that's what we tell you. But we're shallow, competitive egomaniacs. You don't think it gets under our skin if our woman's bringing home more bacon than we are -- and frying it up in a pan?

"My wife and I are both reporters at the same newspaper," says Jeffrey Newton, 33, of Fayetteville, South Carolina. "Five years into our marriage I still check her pay stub to see how much more an hour I make than she does. And because she works harder, she keeps closing the gap."

Secret #5: Though we often protest, we actually enjoy fixing things around the house

I risk being shunned at the local bar if this magazine finds its way there, because few charades are as beloved by guys as this one. To hear us talk, the Bataan Death March beats grouting that bathroom shower. And, as 30-year-old Ed Powers of Chicago admits, it's a shameless lie. "In truth, it's rewarding to tinker with and fix something that, without us, would remain broken forever," he says. Plus we get to use tools.

"The reason we don't share this information," Powers adds, "is that most women don't differentiate between taking out the trash and fixing that broken hinge; to them, both are tasks we need to get done over the weekend, preferably during the Bears game. But we want the use-your-hands, think-about-the-steps-in-the-process, home-repair opportunity, not the repetitive, no-possibility-of-a-compliment, mind-dulling, purely physical task." There. Secret's out.

Secret #6: We like it when you mother us, but we're terrified that you'll become your mother

With apologies to Sigmund Freud, Gloria Steinem -- and my mother-in-law.

Secret #7: Every year we love you more

Sure, we look like adults. We own a few suits. We can probably order wine without giggling. But although we resemble our father when he was our age, we still feel like that 4-year-old clutching his pant leg.

With that much room left on our emotional-growth charts, we sense we've only begun to admire you in the ways we will when we're 40, 50 and -- God forbid -- 60. We can't explain this to you, because it would probably come out sounding like we don't love you now.

"It took at least a year before I really started to appreciate my wife for something other than just great sex; and I didn't discover her mind fully until the third year we were married," says Newton. "But the older and wiser I get, the more I love my wife." Adds J.P. Neal, 32, of Potomac, Maryland: "The for-richer-or-poorer, for-better-or-worse aspects of marriage don't hit you right away. It's only during those rare times when we take stock of our life that it starts to sink in."

Secret #8: We don't really understand what you're talking about

You know how, during the day, you sometimes think about certain deep, complex "issues" in your relationship? Then when you get home, you want to "discuss" these issues? And during these "discussions," your man sits there nodding and saying things like "Sure, I understand," "That makes perfect sense" and "I'll do better next time"?

Well, we don't understand. It doesn't make any sense to us at all. And although we'd like to do better next time, we could only do so if, in fact, we had an idea of what you're talking about.

We do care. Just be aware that the part of our brain that processes this stuff is where we store sports trivia.

Secret #9: We are terrified when you drive

Want to know how to reduce your big, tough guy to a quivering mass of fear? Ask him for the car keys.

"I am scared to death when she drives," says LaFlamme.

"Every time I ride with her, I fully accept that I may die at any moment," says Buckingham.

"My wife has about one 'car panic' story a week -- and it's never her fault. All these horrible things just keep happening -- it must be her bad luck," says Andy Beshuk, 31, of Jefferson City, Missouri.

Even if your man is too diplomatic to tell you, he is terrified that you will turn him into a crash-test dummy.

Secret #10: We'll always wish we were 25 again

Granted, when I was 25 I was working 16-hour days and eating shrimp-flavored Ramen noodles six times a week. But as much as we love being with you now, we will always look back fondly on the malnourished freedom of our misguided youth. "Springsteen concerts, the '91 Mets, the Clinton presidency -- most guys reminisce about the days when life was good, easy and free of responsibility," says Rob Aronson, 41, of Livingston, New Jersey, who's been married for 11 years. "At 25 you can get away with things you just can't get away with at 40."

While it doesn't mean we're leaving you to join a rock band, it does explain why we occasionally come home from Pep Boys with a leather steering-wheel cover and a Born to Run CD.

Secret #11: Give us an inch and we'll give you a lifetime

I was on a trip to Mexico, standing on a beach, waxing my surfboard and admiring the glistening 10-foot waves, when I decided to marry the woman who is now my wife. Sure, this was three years before I got around to popping the question. But that was when I knew.

Why? Because she'd let me go on vacation alone. Hell, she made me go. This is the most important thing a man never told you: If you let us be dumb guys, if you embrace our stupid poker night, if you encourage us to go surfing -- by ourselves -- our silly little hearts, with their manly warts and all, we'll embrace you forever for it.

And that's the truth.

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:40 am
by Nomad
ADMIN !

This thread should be deleted and Hope permanately banned from Forum Garden.

Also she should be deported to Siberia to serve out her days in a labor camp.

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:04 am
by Hope6
Nomad;901435 wrote: ADMIN !

This thread should be deleted and Hope permanately banned from Forum Garden.

Also she should be deported to Siberia to serve out her days in a labor camp.


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

didn't want you're secrets told huh?

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:37 am
by qsducks
Men can't keep secrets. they are worst gossiper's. The ones I know anyway:wah:

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:16 am
by Hope6
qsducks;901491 wrote: Men can't keep secrets. they are worst gossiper's. The ones I know anyway:wah:


yeah! and they say we gossip! we're nothing compared to some of them! :wah::wah:

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:24 pm
by scholle-kid
Nomad;901435 wrote: ADMIN !

This thread should be deleted and Hope permanately banned from Forum Garden.

Also she should be deported to Siberia to serve out her days in a labor camp.




:yh_rotfl:-6

Wow all the way to Siberia ??

Well she's already a wife and mother so the labor camp would be no new thing :yh_rotfl

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:57 pm
by watermark
Is this true about what men really think and feel? How disappointing! If women have to wake up and be more aware mates, can't men be expected to also? I'm in agreement with fuzzy butt. I can't believe all men are like this. This article must have been written to make money. Where did it come from?

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:59 pm
by qsducks
watermark;902844 wrote: Is this true about what men really think and feel? How disappointing! If women have to wake up and be more aware mates, can't men be expected to also? I'm in agreement with fuzzy butt. I can't believe all men are like this. This article must have been written to make money. Where did it come from?


At least my hubby is not like the one depicted. He's kind, funny, a good dad and definately a great lover.:-4

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:07 pm
by watermark
qsducks;902847 wrote: At least my hubby is not like the one depicted. He's kind, funny, a good dad and definately a great lover.:-4


The thing is the article was saying men that hold these 'secrets' are basically great people to be involved with in a monogomous relationship and are decent, loving (and sexy) just like you describe your husband.

I think that's a crock!

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:20 pm
by watermark
Jester;902870 wrote: I have a secret!


I knew there was something I didn't like about you, Jester! :rolleyes:

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:52 pm
by Hope6
scholle-kid;902685 wrote: :yh_rotfl

Wow all the way to Siberia ??

Well she's already a wife and mother so the labor camp would be no new thing :yh_rotfl


:wah::wah::wah::wah:

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:56 pm
by Hope6
fuzzy butt;902721 wrote: See I find that horrible and not true at all about men . Not all men look to perve or think about the bonkability of women.some actually can see someone as attractive, register it, and move on.

It is a very weak man that lies this way.

Maybe between 14 and 25 when the hormones are a bit out of control but after that it's not acceptable in men. That's where the saying of dirty old man and sleaze comes in.


i agree with you Fuzzy, i'm sure there are quite a few men out there that this stuff doesn't apply too, i know there are some really good guys out there.

that why when i posted this article i included the question, how much of this is true!

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:03 pm
by Hope6
watermark;902844 wrote: Is this true about what men really think and feel? How disappointing! If women have to wake up and be more aware mates, can't men be expected to also? I'm in agreement with fuzzy butt. I can't believe all men are like this. This article must have been written to make money. Where did it come from?


it was originally an article in Redbook, but it was on msn when i read it!

there was a companion article, "Secrets Women Keep" that i posted in a seperate thread.

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:06 pm
by Hope6
Jester;902870 wrote: I have a secret!


owwwwwww do tell, do you feel like sharing? :-3

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:07 pm
by qsducks
watermark;902858 wrote: The thing is the article was saying men that hold these 'secrets' are basically great people to be involved with in a monogomous relationship and are decent, loving (and sexy) just like you describe your husband.

I think that's a crock!


Whatever

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:50 pm
by qsducks
Jester;902974 wrote: Ok I'll tell one of my secrets... I do not like to go to the grocery store... I make out like its an ok thing to do, I dont make out falsely like I love it by the way, but I actlike I dont mind it, but I really do. But the thing is that I love my wife so I can put up with a bit of grocery shopping...

besides... I can alwasy just walk behind her...:-4


I don't like going grocery shopping either. And I don't like people going with me as extra stuff ends up in the cart.:wah:

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:05 pm
by Hope6
Jester;902974 wrote: Ok I'll tell one of my secrets... I do not like to go to the grocery store... I make out like its an ok thing to do, I dont make out falsely like I love it by the way, but I actlike I dont mind it, but I really do. But the thing is that I love my wife so I can put up with a bit of grocery shopping...

besides... I can alwasy just walk behind her...:-4


:wah::wah::wah:

what is it with men and shopping? :thinking:

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:32 pm
by watermark
Hope6;902926 wrote: it was originally an article in Redbook, but it was on msn when i read it!

there was a companion article, "Secrets Women Keep" that i posted in a seperate thread.


Obviously a stupid womens' magazine! Redbook is an old tradition and it's sad to say this but the time has come for reporting to be accurate and at least a bit deeper than its been. Plus I doubt they even consider environmental and social issues in the pocket book. They it are just like other US dumbass companies.

To be fair there's no shortage of idiotic men's magazines either.

People are not that ignorant nowadays, noone will continue to support this hog (mind) wash!

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:42 pm
by Hope6
watermark;903008 wrote: Obviously a stupid womens' magazine! Redbook is an old tradition and it's sad to say this but the time has come for reporting to be accurate and at least a bit deeper than its been. Plus I doubt they even consider environmental and social issues in the pocket book. They it are just like other US dumbass companies.

To be fair there's no shortage of idiotic men's magazines either.

People are not that ignorant nowadays, noone will continue to support this hog (mind) wash!


I've never read Redbook myself!

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:48 pm
by K.Snyder
4,5,and 6 I would have to say that I don't agree with...

Money isn't my first priority and I just assume have everything around the house work the way it's supposed to...Doesn't mean I won't fix it just that I have better things to do than to fix some idiots mistakes...

Don't really need another mother...I have one already...

What I do need is a lover...Not another mother...

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:55 pm
by Hope6
K.Snyder;903016 wrote: 4,5,and 6 I would have to say that I don't agree with...

Money isn't my first priority and I just assume have everything around the house work the way it's supposed to...Doesn't mean I won't fix it just that I have better things to do than to fix some idiots mistakes...

Don't really need another mother...I have one already...

What I do need is a lover...Not another mother...


we're terrified that we're gonna become our mother too!

and i'm afraid it happens a lot of the time and we don't even realize it!

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:03 pm
by RedGlitter
I've never understood that. If I turned into my mom I'd be a fortunate woman indeed.

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:09 pm
by Hope6
RedGlitter;903022 wrote: I've never understood that. If I turned into my mom I'd be a fortunate woman indeed.


my mother is an over-protective, very strict and high tempered woman, even though i'm a grown woman with a baby of my own, she still sees fit to tell me every move i make! :-5

i am so glad i've got my daddy's personality!:-6

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:13 pm
by K.Snyder
RedGlitter;903022 wrote: I've never understood that. If I turned into my mom I'd be a fortunate woman indeed.


She's just talking about the sort of bossiness aspect of it...Mothers much like fathers can be a bit overbearing sometimes and I believe in fearing looking like them will make them unsexy considering most children don't like to think about their parents having sex...And it happens people!!!...:wah: jk...

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:14 pm
by K.Snyder
RedGlitter;903022 wrote: I've never understood that. If I turned into my mom I'd be a fortunate woman indeed.


Hope6;903026 wrote: my mother is an over-protective, very strict and high tempered woman, even though i'm a grown woman with a baby of my own, she still sees fit to tell me every move i make! :-5

i am so glad i've got my daddy's personality!:-6


And indeed it seems I am correct...:yh_bigsmi...

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:16 pm
by jones jones
secret #12 ... all men are born with this sac of very potent tranquilizer sitting above the reasoning side of their brain ... at a certain age the sac bursts and the tranquilizer escapes and dulls his sense of reason ... it is at this time of his life that he asks his girlfriend to marry him ...

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:17 pm
by RedGlitter
Whatever.

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:57 pm
by Hope6
K.Snyder;903028 wrote: And indeed it seems I am correct...:yh_bigsmi...


i have a baby of my own now and i do not want to be the over-protective mother that mine was, i got to go nowhere and do nothing as a child, and i intend to be different.

as for the rest, my mother is a great woman and i love her very much and except for those few personality traits i mentioned i would love to be like her!

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
by Hope6
jones jones;903029 wrote: secret #12 ... all men are born with this sac of very potent tranquilizer sitting above the reasoning side of their brain ... at a certain age the sac bursts and the tranquilizer escapes and dulls his sense of reason ... it is at this time of his life that he asks his girlfriend to marry him ...


so what happens to the girlfriend to make her say yes! :lips::lips:

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:58 pm
by K.Snyder
Hope6;903046 wrote: i have a baby of my own now and i do not want to be the over-protective mother that mine was, i got to go nowhere and do nothing as a child, and i intend to be different.

as for the rest, my mother is a great woman and i love her very much and except for those few personality traits i mentioned i would love to be like her!


Completely understandable...

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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:59 pm
by K.Snyder
Hope6;903047 wrote: so what happens to the girlfriend to make her say yes! :lips::lips:


:wah:

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:07 am
by Hope6
K.Snyder;903064 wrote: Completely understandable...


Thank you! I'm glad someone understands!

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:07 am
by Hope6
K.Snyder;903065 wrote: :wah:


:lips::lips::lips::lips:

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:18 am
by qsducks
Jester;903364 wrote: well shopping for my wife is like this...

its a moisey whiel she pushes the cart... no hurry at all, she will spend 11 minutes standing to the side of the first isle, looking over her grocery list... crossign stuff off that her nother brought her earlier in the week, adjusting quanitities, changing to brand names on specific items...

she then reads every label of every item she puts in the cart... for the next three hours...

as I try my best to patiently wait out this agonozing process with a smile on my face, a skip in my step, and... well lets just say I have ants in my pants most of the time, if im not busy and I mean actually moving to accomplish something Im planning to do something, if im not planning to do something I'm inventing things to do.create in my mind...

Mr Slowsky I aint, in anything.

But... for her I will slow down and enjoy teasing her about how slow she is...:D Then I bag/pack her groceries... then we go home and put the icecream and perishables away, then I take her out to eat...

But thats nothing... one time I got hooked into taking my daughter bra shopping...:-3


I could never shop with you Jester. It would drive me nuts. I'm so much better off doing it myself and I'm fast at it. As for bras, I buy them online.

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:30 am
by Hope6
Jester;903364 wrote: well shopping for my wife is like this...

its a moisey whiel she pushes the cart... no hurry at all, she will spend 11 minutes standing to the side of the first isle, looking over her grocery list... crossign stuff off that her nother brought her earlier in the week, adjusting quanitities, changing to brand names on specific items...

she then reads every label of every item she puts in the cart... for the next three hours...

as I try my best to patiently wait out this agonozing process with a smile on my face, a skip in my step, and... well lets just say I have ants in my pants most of the time, if im not busy and I mean actually moving to accomplish something Im planning to do something, if im not planning to do something I'm inventing things to do.create in my mind...

Mr Slowsky I aint, in anything.

But... for her I will slow down and enjoy teasing her about how slow she is...:D Then I bag/pack her groceries... then we go home and put the icecream and perishables away, then I take her out to eat...

But thats nothing... one time I got hooked into taking my daughter bra shopping...:-3


but see i'm not like that, i'm a fast shopper, i don't stand around and look at anything, i get what i want to get and i'm gone! :wah::wah:

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:31 pm
by Hope6
Jester;904156 wrote: hmmmm... maybe I shudda waited for you then? ;)


awwww! well thank you for the compliment! :-6