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Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:49 am
by Lon
Are your opinions and beliefs carved in stone? Are you capable of changing your mind? The Media has recently reported one or another politician as Flipflopping on their ideas. Is that bad? As new data and information becomes available to us that was previously unknown, what's wrong with changing our minds?
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:12 pm
by hoppy
Lon;909199 wrote: Are your opinions and beliefs carved in stone? Are you capable of changing your mind? The Media has recently reported one or another politician as Flipflopping on their ideas. Is that bad? As new data and information becomes available to us that was previously unknown, what's wrong with changing our minds?
One should be steadfast on some things. What would change Obama's mind on gun control? Was he assaulted and robbed? Did he experience a home invasion? No. It was voter threat. If a politico can change their mind to get elected, they can change it back AFTER election. Never trust a flipflopper.
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:16 pm
by K.Snyder
Absolutely not...
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:21 pm
by Nomad
Thank you Lon.
The Republican media is just slinging whatever they can at Obama. Before he swayed they were on him about not having been to Iraq to speak with commanders in charge. Now they say hes buckling.
Limbaugh and his ditto heads make themselves sound like brain wash recipients.
They have tunnel vision and are unable or incapable of bending.
Being say a Conservative no matter what the issue or situation, party rules all the way is dangerous and weak in my mind.
If you cant assess and adjust as the matter at hand dictates then you keep doing the same things you always do.
Change is critical and essential in an ever changing world.
No wonder Obama scares them, they dont know how to adapt.
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:24 pm
by hoppy
No wonder Obama scares them, they dont know how to adapt.
Not scared. More amused.
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:26 pm
by K.Snyder
Nomad;909252 wrote: Thank you Lon.
The Republican media is just slinging whatever they can at Obama. Before he swayed they were on him about not having been to Iraq to speak with commanders in charge. Now they say hes buckling.
Limbaugh and his ditto heads make themselves sound like brain wash recipients.
They have tunnel vision and are unable or incapable of bending.
Being say a Conservative no matter what the issue or situation, party rules all the way is dangerous and weak in my mind.
If you cant assess and adjust as the matter at hand dictates then you keep doing the same things you always do.
Change is critical and essential in an ever changing world.
No wonder Obama scares them, they dont know how to adapt.
Well I think after the way things have been run no one expects the Republicans to win office...
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:26 pm
by Nomad
hoppy;909255 wrote: No wonder Obama scares them, they dont know how to adapt.
Not scared. More amused.
The Republican party is amused ?
I dont think theyre that flippant.
Theyre still going to try to win the election but they know its a long shot.
Why do you suppose they would have preferred Billary win the nomination ?
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:29 pm
by CARLA
Heck I change my mind 3 or 4 times before I get out of bed in the morning.

Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:33 pm
by Nomad
CARLA;909259 wrote: Heck I change my mind 3 or 4 times before I get out of bed in the morning.
Ok time to get up
No bad idea stay in bed
Gotta get up
Why ruin a perfect thing, go back to sleep
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:35 pm
by CARLA
:wah::wah: Exactly you got it Nomad.
[QUOTE]Ok time to get up
No bad idea stay in bed
Gotta get up
Why ruin a perfect thing, go back to sleep[/QUOTE]
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:59 pm
by hoppy
Nomad;909257 wrote: The Republican party is amused ?
I dont think theyre that flippant.
Theyre still going to try to win the election but they know its a long shot.
Why do you suppose they would have preferred Billary win the nomination ?
It's just my opinion but to me, a flipflopper is a confused, possibly scared, person.
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:34 pm
by Patsy Warnick
Are my beliefs carved in stone - NO, and they shouldn't be.
There's certain grounds where I stand - but you have to hear other opinions/beliefs.
I say HEAR - take in. my way may not be right.
Just because your stubborn - doesn't mean it's right, etc.. I grew out of that.:wah:
Politicians flipflopping ideas or ISSUES ??
Issues would not be right - example - abortion, it's yes or no
I won't appreciate a Politicians changing their stand on ISSUES.
Patsy
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:13 pm
by Accountable
Nomad;909252 wrote: Thank you Lon.
The Republican media is just slinging whatever they can at Obama. Before he swayed they were on him about not having been to Iraq to speak with commanders in charge. Now they say hes buckling.
Limbaugh and his ditto heads make themselves sound like brain wash recipients.
They have tunnel vision and are unable or incapable of bending.
Being say a Conservative no matter what the issue or situation, party rules all the way is dangerous and weak in my mind.
If you cant assess and adjust as the matter at hand dictates then you keep doing the same things you always do.
Change is critical and essential in an ever changing world.
No wonder Obama scares them, they dont know how to adapt.
Yup. You'll never catch the Democrats accusing McCain of flipflopping.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/1 ... two-weeks/
Politicians are going to act like politicians, and the most politician-like thing for a politician to do is to accuse another politician of acting like a typical politician.... with lots of tsk tsks and hypocritical name-calling, such as "hypocrite".
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:16 am
by RedGlitter
Depends I think on the type of issues. Some things you can afford to be wrong about. We all have room to learn and grow. But...not to be cliche or quote John Mellencamp, but if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything. I've changed my mind about some pretty important things in my lifetime but I've not wavered from my core beliefs.
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:20 am
by YZGI
I only wear flipflops in the summer, way too cold in the winter..

Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:28 pm
by Nomad
Accountable;909401 wrote: Yup. You'll never catch the Democrats accusing McCain of flipflopping.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/1 ... two-weeks/
Politicians are going to act like politicians, and the most politician-like thing for a politician to do is to accuse another politician of acting like a typical politician.... with lots of tsk tsks and hypocritical name-calling, such as "hypocrite".
Right !
Thats what Im sayin.....frickin conservatives. Theyll get us all killed.
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:12 pm
by qsducks
jimbo;910200 wrote: i wear the posh french ones phillepe falhop

I'm currently wearing the LL Bean ones with the little lobsters on the straps.:wah:
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:13 pm
by Nomad
jimbo;910200 wrote: i wear the posh french ones phillepe falhop

Ok but what does your hair color say about you ?
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:00 pm
by woppy71
As I live my life, I find that I am becomming a more openminded person, freeing myself from the ignorance of my beliefs founded by what my friends and family have passed onto me, but I have not bothered to find out for my self. Belief by ignorance, possibly.
I am always willing to change how I feel about something, but as my skills In learning how to validate or invalidate something become better as I grow older, I find that my beliefs are founded on more solid facts rather than ignorant assumptions.

Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:18 pm
by Nomad
Im all about ignorant assumptions Wop, its not for everybody but it works for me.
Are You A Flipflopper?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:19 pm
by Accountable
woppy71;912194 wrote: As I live my life, I find that I am becomming a more openminded person, freeing myself from the ignorance of my beliefs founded by what my friends and family have passed onto me, but I have not bothered to find out for my self. Belief by ignorance, possibly.
I am always willing to change how I feel about something, but as my skills In learning how to validate or invalidate something become better as I grow older, I find that my beliefs are founded on more solid facts rather than ignorant assumptions.

Excellent!
When I was a leadership instructor in the Air Force I would regularly question my students on their opinions, the theory being that they would be leading people with an infinite variety of beliefs and opinions, and the leader had better be well-situated in his own mind so to be more accepting of others. Whenever a student responded to my endless barrage of 'why? why? why?' with 'that's the way my parents believed' or similar statement, I would always light into them with partially-feigned anger. "I didn't ask how they believed; I asked for YOUR opinion. Borrowing theirs is fine while you're a child, but you're an adult now. You need to examine that opinion and decide for yourself if it is good - decide if you really agree. Very likely, you'll find that you truly do agree, but now you'll know why! Then you will have your own opinion."