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It's firework time

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:46 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Why does it seem to me that fireworks begin on 1st January and end 31st December accumulating to a downright noise nuisence between October and December.

I am not an old grump, i enjoy seeing young kids having a great time on November 5th.

I object to having my ears hurt and my pets bothered by inconsiderate people who let them off at any reason.

The louder they are, the better to some people.

I believe our government introduced laws recently to stop these people creating noise nuisence but typical, we don't have the police to enforce them.

Public displays are great for those who want to see the big guns but are short of money.

It just seems that it is always the same houses that this noise comes from.

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:48 pm
by kazalala
i think hey should prohibit shops from selling them altogether,, it should be just organised events that are allowed to use them:mad: im dreading it this year for my dog who we just got in feb:(

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:49 pm
by qsducks
Fireworks start around June 22nd and last till about July 10th around my neck of the woods. yes, they are great on the 4th of July, but not every night.

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:51 pm
by Chezzie
kazalala;1016426 wrote: i think hey should prohibit shops from selling them altogether,, it should be just organised events that are allowed to use them:mad: im dreading it this year for my dog who we just got in feb:(


Ditto Kaz

My Scrappy is petrified and its dreadful to see him trying to hide himself and shake uncontrollably and not be able to go out for a walk or even in the garden. Upsets the kids to see him like that so they now dont like to hear fireworks. What pi55es me off even more is how inconsiderate people are, letting them off all hours from now until New Year is unbearable.:-5

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:52 pm
by kazalala
Its not as bad here compared to where we lived a few years ago,,, but Sheila is going to be in a right state,, she such a drama queen:rolleyes::(

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:53 pm
by Oscar Namechange
kazalala;1016426 wrote: i think hey should prohibit shops from selling them altogether,, it should be just organised events that are allowed to use them:mad: im dreading it this year for my dog who we just got in feb:(


I got a tiny pup, about 5 months old.

The bangers are going off as we speak outside my windows and she's curled up asleep.

My advice to anyone with a dog or new puppy, is not to re-act yourself.

If you get tense thinking how are they going to re-act, they pick up your vibes and know that something is worrying you. They will then associate that with the noise they are hearing.

I have had a scurge on my local Asian shop for some years now. I see kids coming out of there with the big fireworks and it's illegal to sell to them at that age. As i said, not enough police to enforce the laws.

Some people say, well it's only once a year, but it's not round here, it's the minute the shops start stocking and selling them. :-5:-5

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:55 pm
by kazalala
oscar;1016436 wrote: I got a tiny pup, about 5 months old.

The bangers are going off as we speak outside my windows and she's curled up asleep.

My advice to anyone with a dog or new puppy, is not to re-act yourself.

If you get tense thinking how are they going to re-act, they pick up your vibes and know that something is worrying you. They will then associate that with the noise they are hearing.

I have had a scurge on my local Asian shop for some years now. I see kids coming out of there with the big fireworks and it's illegal to sell to them at that age. As i said, not enough police to enforce the laws.

Some people say, well it's only once a year, but it's not round here, it's the minute the shops start stocking and selling them. :-5:-5


Yea i agree about the pet advice,, but we got oour Sheila at 18 months old already,, dont know what she has laready been through,, so not a lot we can do... she hates the noise though,,, farmers shooting near us sometimes ,, thunder,,, :rolleyes:

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:56 pm
by qsducks
I will never forget about 2 yrs ago, we were going through a water drought and inconsiderate SIL from across the street starts doing the fireworks. The entire street freaked out on him. We have flat roofed housing. And he had the gall to complain "that it's July 4th", blah, blah, blah.:mad:

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:58 pm
by devist8me
I always think someone is out in the street shooting a gun before realizing what time of the year it is.

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:02 pm
by Oscar Namechange
devist8me;1016448 wrote: I always think someone is out in the street shooting a gun before realizing what time of the year it is.


We don't have guns in Britain. Although i'd like one right now.

Have you seen the cost of fireworks? Where do these people get their money from for them??

And as for what they do to wildlife :-5:-5:-5

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:07 pm
by spot
What kills most wildlife is pet cats.

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:14 pm
by Oscar Namechange
spot;1016471 wrote: What kills most wildlife is pet cats.


Your right Spot although i've never seen a cat bother a swan or a large deer. :)

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:18 pm
by spot
oscar;1016424 wrote: I believe our government introduced laws recently to stop these people creating noise nuisence but typical, we don't have the police to enforce them.The only two I can find that are recent are:

... 2004 No. 1831 (C. 75) FIREWORKS The Fireworks Act 2003 (Commencement No. 2) Order 2004 ... 2004 No. 1831 (C. 75) FIREWORKS The Fireworks Act 2003 (Commencement No. ...

www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2004/uksi_20041831_en.pdf

... 1372 CONSUMER PROTECTION The Fireworks (Safety) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 ... 1372 CONSUMER PROTECTION The Fireworks (Safety) (Amendment) Regulations 2004

www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2004/uksi_20041372_en.pdf

In what way were these overworked paragons of virtue and last thin blue line against the forces of darkness suddenly enabled to "stop these people" - what does stop mean in this context?

Policing would actually work in the UK if it weren't a private monopoly of the boys in blue. If you or I had the same access to presenting evidence to the DPP for prosecutions to be brought, and we were paid on a bounty system for convictions, the crime rate would plummet. Ask those bastards in uniform if they'd tolerate that and you'll find out why there's so much crime - more crime is more money for them, it's that simple. It's their career. The last thing they want is successful crime reduction. The police aren't merely inept - though they're inept - their only incentive is to fail to win.

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:31 pm
by Oscar Namechange
spot;1016489 wrote: The only two I can find that are recent are:

... 2004 No. 1831 (C. 75) FIREWORKS The Fireworks Act 2003 (Commencement No. 2) Order 2004 ... 2004 No. 1831 (C. 75) FIREWORKS The Fireworks Act 2003 (Commencement No. ...

www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2004/uksi_20041831_en.pdf

... 1372 CONSUMER PROTECTION The Fireworks (Safety) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 ... 1372 CONSUMER PROTECTION The Fireworks (Safety) (Amendment) Regulations 2004

www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2004/uksi_20041372_en.pdf

In what way were these overworked paragons of virtue and last thin blue line against the forces of darkness suddenly enabled to "stop these people" - what does stop mean in this context?

Policing would actually work in the UK if it weren't a private monopoly of the boys in blue. If you or I had the same access to presenting evidence to the DPP for prosecutions to be brought, and we were paid on a bounty system for convictions, the crime rate would plummet. Ask those bastards in uniform if they'd tolerate that and you'll find out why there's so much crime - more crime is more money for them, it's that simple. It's their career. The last thing they want is successful crime reduction. The police aren't merely inept - though they're inept - their only incentive is to fail to win.


I can't argue with that Spot.

Thanks for the laws, i was just about to google them.

I have reported the corner shop over and over to the local boys in blue about seeing kids coming out of there with big fireworks and alcohol. Eventually, plod told me to object to their license next application.

Thinking about it, i've never seen a cat bother a set of badgers or a pack of foxes before. :)

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:14 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Chezzie;1016429 wrote:

Ditto Kaz

My Scrappy is petrified and its dreadful to see him trying to hide himself and shake uncontrollably and not be able to go out for a walk or even in the garden. Upsets the kids to see him like that so they now dont like to hear fireworks. What pi55es me off even more is how inconsiderate people are, letting them off all hours from now until New Year is unbearable.:-5


I don't know if this will help but when i've had pets terrified in the past, i've drowned the noise out with some-thing they recognise. The hoover, the hi-fi, radio etc.

As you will know, lots of cuddles and re-assurence will help.

Mine don't take a blind bit of notice so i'm really lucky.

We got builders in. Friday, there was a large rastafarian dude drilling in my kitchen. He turned everything off and said Listen, i can hear a funny noise. It was one of our persians happily sneezing beside him. "Is my face bovvered?" No, i don't think she was. :wah: