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My uncle

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:31 pm
by Lon
fuzzy butt;1085959 wrote: Hmmmmmmmmm it's funny how people handle different situations. Is it assisted suicde by a doctor or just doing their job and hoping for the best? Well he could live ........I guess.

I went to Melbourne yesterday for my sons Twenty first (totally rained out but that's another story) Just before leaving to come home my dad got a phone call from his brother...he's dying . I was listening as dad was being told htis and mum was in the background saying "fick fick fick" (she doesn't usually say those kind of words). He has pancreas cancer and they can't fix it. So I'm going down to visit him soon to say goodbye.

When they got over the shock I said "well he's had a good innings all considering" and mum retorted "he's only seventy two"!!! But I said "think about it" he was the youngest in Australia to be diagnosed with polio which should of killed him . He's been in so many situations that 'should' have killed him (I rambled a couple of these off) he's had severe asthma all his life..........and I mean severe. And he should have been dead from alcohol poisoning 20 years ago .( he makes his own beer that one bottle of his moonshine is equivalent to 6, last estimated by the last person who tried some.)

The doctors wont' operate because he simply won't survive it ...............SO HE TOLD THEM TOO..........seriously he's told them he wants the operation so he goes whilst he's out of it instead of lingering.

Personally I think this is pretty cool . Fancy being able to choose your way out. And if he did come out of the OP then he'd die a couple of days later anyway whilst sedated.

If you guys had the choice?...............would you go down this path?


No-------------Pancreatic Cancer is incurable. My first wife died of it, and quickly I am happy to say.

My uncle

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:35 pm
by wildhorses
fuzzy butt;1085959 wrote: Hmmmmmmmmm it's funny how people handle different situations. Is it assisted suicde by a doctor or just doing their job and hoping for the best? Well he could live ........I guess.

I went to Melbourne yesterday for my sons Twenty first (totally rained out but that's another story) Just before leaving to come home my dad got a phone call from his brother...he's dying . I was listening as dad was being told htis and mum was in the background saying "fick fick fick" (she doesn't usually say those kind of words). He has pancreas cancer and they can't fix it. So I'm going down to visit him soon to say goodbye.

When they got over the shock I said "well he's had a good innings all considering" and mum retorted "he's only seventy two"!!! But I said "think about it" he was the youngest in Australia to be diagnosed with polio which should of killed him . He's been in so many situations that 'should' have killed him (I rambled a couple of these off) he's had severe asthma all his life..........and I mean severe. And he should have been dead from alcohol poisoning 20 years ago .( he makes his own beer that one bottle of his moonshine is equivalent to 6, last estimated by the last person who tried some.)

The doctors wont' operate because he simply won't survive it ...............SO HE TOLD THEM TOO..........seriously he's told them he wants the operation so he goes whilst he's out of it instead of lingering.

Personally I think this is pretty cool . Fancy being able to choose your way out. And if he did come out of the OP then he'd die a couple of days later anyway whilst sedated.

If you guys had the choice?...............would you go down this path?


Ya I would....sign me up. Hey if you are going to go and you cant change it, then choose your weapon.

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:27 am
by shelbell
Well fuzzy that is hard to fathom not being in the situation. I've told hubby that I don't want to be a vegetable or to be in excrutiating pain. Hubby on the other hand wants to extend his life as long as possible "just in case" they find a cure.

Either way it must be a very difficult and personal decision. No one can make this decision for anyone else. I don't blame your uncle at all at wanting to go out this way...why extend his suffering?

I'm not sure how it works where you live, but here in the states we have a medical form that must be signed called a DNR (do not resesitate) on file if we are to go thru something like that and do not want any resources used to bring us back to life...cpr, feeding tubes, etc...

Either way hun, I'm sorry to hear this sad news and am sending some :yh_prayto you and your family. :-4

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:02 am
by abbey
I'm so sorry to hear your news FB.

Cancer's a bitch.:(

((((HUGS))))

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:35 am
by Odie
I'm sorry about your uncle Fuzzy.:(



......but I would have chosen the same path.

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:39 am
by along-for-the-ride
So sorry about your uncle, FB. Sounds like he was a fighter for many years. But even a fighter can get tired of the battle.



To my British friends, I've heard on the news that British TV will be allowed to televise assisted suicides. Is this true? What do you think? I think a persons "final moments" should be kept private.

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:49 am
by Trunk Monkey
I'm sorry to read this about your uncle Fuzzy. I don't know of a doctor that would operate when there is no chance of success. When my father had this, he wanted to die at home in his easy chair. They sent him home with an IV morphine drip so that he could control the amount of morphine he needed to ease his pain. He was sedated most of the time and you really couldn't have a conversation with him. He was in no pain and his wish came true. He passed away (in his sleep) in his favorite chair amoungst his family. I, again, am so sorry and I send hugs to you and your family.

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:38 am
by Kathy Ellen
I'm so sorry about your Uncle Mags:-4



PJ, I'm also sorry about your Dad...It's nice that he passed so peacefully:-6

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:38 pm
by gmc
posted by fuzzy butt

If you guys had the choice?...............would you go down this path?




Don't know. Would certainly prefer to just die rather than linger and lose all my faculties. I'm currently watching a close relative die bit by bit mentally and physically, essentially the person is no longer actually there you almost wish they would hurry up and die. You should feel sorrow when someone dies not relief. It's the kind of thing you need to decide while still compos mentis



along-for-the-ride;1086141 wrote: So sorry about your uncle, FB. Sounds like he was a fighter for many years. But even a fighter can get tired of the battle.



To my British friends, I've heard on the news that British TV will be allowed to televise assisted suicides. Is this true? What do you think? I think a persons "final moments" should be kept private.


It's true. Nobody was forced to watch it though.

BBC NEWS | England | North Yorkshire | TV company defends suicide film

It's intended to bring the matter in to public debate. now it is possible to keep people alive beyond the point where they may fell they have no life at all should they be allowed to choose to die? Many think so and maybe the law needs changed, committing suicide is not a crime but helping someone do so is but it is something the churches need to keep out of, no one who is not religious wants issues like that decided for everybody by holy rollers.

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:58 pm
by Odie
fuzzy butt;1086250 wrote: Yeah I think this is part of his reasoning . We all watched as his mother held on and on for months. It was quite horrible (personally I think it was deliberate to make everyone else suffer, she was that kind of woman:rolleyes: she's not missed.) but my uncle will be.

Thanks for the wishes and prayers everyone ............Everyone here will be watching out for my dad and his other brother, Dads taking it pretty hard.....:(


:yh_hugs:yh_hugs:yh_questn:yh_pray:yh_pray

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:29 pm
by Odie
fuzzy butt;1086326 wrote: Oh Odie I see the question mark ..........trust me she was an evil woman. A well to do, stuck up, rich woman who hoarded things because it was beneath her to be poor. My Uncle spent the first two years of his life in hospital and hardly ever had a visit from his mother only his grandparents (her resoning was "she couldn't be seen there" it would ruin her chances of remarrying)

Then she tried to adopt out my father because only the younger one would be acceptable to a new mate. (she wasn't poor during the war he was just inconvienient to her). Then she sent letters to my grandfather whilst he was a POW in Changi. 'Dear John' letters and blaming him for the inconvience of her life at the time. (I've seen the letters, just before dad burnt them all) She eventually sent my dad to Tasmania to get rid of him. she would not allow any of them in the house when they were children because they'd scuff her floor. she did not talk to my mother for years after she married my dad because she stopped him from becoming the priest he was destined to be . And she gave presents to my eldest sister when she was little just to take them back again because she could break the expensive gifts. Then she wouldn't talk to my two sisters for years and denied her great grand children because they were half "nips" .................Oh yes

lovely woman ...not . Wasn't everyone glad Hitler died?

So I guess my uncles life has been rough and that's why we probably all love him.

He's a funny old bugger!!!!




I'm such a dope!:lips:



I thought that question mark was a tear!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl










:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

My uncle

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:23 pm
by Odie
fuzzy butt;1086538 wrote: Odie that is the funniest pming I've done in awhile. Thanks it cheered me up :yh_rotfl


glad it cheered you up, at least your sane!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie needs a new pair of glasses for Christmas!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl